Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith
Hi Will They won't look for video software on the Rocket site, they are going to look for solutions in trade journals and on the internet. That is where the ISVs are focusing their advertising. With the issue about finding solutions, make contact with a local sales person at Rocket or one of the Distributors. They should be able to point you to references. They can give you a one off verbal, that would not be allowed if it went to print or the internet. If it is published it has to go to legal, if it is a verbal comment made one off, it does not require legal. That is why George raised it is easier to make a phone call. Regards David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith
Then you're not understanding me. I am not speaking at all of sites that use home-built systems. I am speaking of vendors, who sell application abc, to *others*, and yet their advertising is squelched by all the noise. If I have a client who is say a video rental store (they do still exist) and their existing software company has vanished, the owner is most likely to say, gee let's look at what's available in the market to move our data to. If I can say, here is another company, also making software for your exact same vertical, and luckily, they use the exact same database that is an advantage to me, and the client both. I can't do that today, because unlike some other databases, their doesn't seem to be any such resource to list who has what app for sale in the MV world. -Original Message- From: David Jordan To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith Hi Will What you are raising is the issue of internal customised U2 sites which are a dying breed. The new market is applications where people buy the applications, not the database. Vendors see no benefit from advertising that they use U2 where they get no financial benefit and they could disadvantage themselves. Even Oracle based packages are talking less about Oracle. If a site is Microsoft SQL Server, why get yourself knocked off the list. The trend is such that Oracle is buying ERP tools to sell, because people no longer make decisions on Databases. SAP is moving the customer to their purchased Sybase database. The market is all moving towards applications as the decision making process. George and I advertise that we run on U2 product, but many of the ISVs don't see any benefit. Regards David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code
Bernard, I am using BDT version 3.0.4.I right-clicked in the editor pane and went to Preferences there. I'm new to Eclipse so I'm still fumbling around, but i'm starting to figure things out - thanks! Bob On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Bernard Lubin < bernard.lu...@pentanasolutions.com> wrote: > Just tested this on our server and it is placing spaces instead of the tab > character. > > You may have to change your tab setting. > (Windows/Preference /Ant/Editor/Formatter) - uncheck the "Use tab char > instead of spaces" checkbox > > I am using Version 3.0.3 of the BDT. I remember that there were some > issues with the previous version, in regards to tab character > > Rgds > > Bernard > > > ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code
Bill, Thank you for your helpful response. I found in Preferences > Text Editors - i was able to set spaces for tabs, and tab width. (and also show line numbers, which I was missing). So now I just need to find how I can set the first column to 6 instead of 1. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Bill Brutzman wrote: > Googling... eclipse text format... yielded... among other things... > > http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Default-Format-Settings-in-Eclipse > > --Bill > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: > u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Worley > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:57 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code > > We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use > BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. > > > Does anyone know of a way to specify how the code editor formats? > Ctrl-Shift-F removes leading spaces, then indents lines using tab char(9) > instead of spaces. > > > Example: > > > FORMAT results from TCL EDitor: > > > 0001: S='' > > 0002: X=9 > > 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X > > 0004: IF S=12 THEN > > 0005: CRT 'HELLO' > > 0006: END ELSE > > 0007: GOSUB DO.SOMETHING > > 0008: END > > 0009: NEXT I > > 0010: RETURN > > 0011: > > 0012: DO.SOMETHING: > > 0013: R2='D2' > > 0014: RETURN > > 0015: > > 0016:END > > Bottom at line 16. > > > Format (Ctrl-Shift-F) results in BDT > > > 0001: S='' > > 0002: X=9 > > 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X > > 0004: ^009IF S=12 THEN > > 0005: ^009^009CRT 'HELLO' > > 0006: ^009END ELSE > > 0007: ^009^009GOSUB DO.SOMETHING > > 0008: ^009END > > 0009: NEXT I > > 0010: RETURN > > 0011: > > 0012: DO.SOMETHING: > > 0013: R2='D2' > > 0014: RETURN > > 0015: > > 0016: END > > Bottom at line 16. > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > -- *Bobby D. Worley* IT Applications Developer Coburn Supply Company o: 903.753.8613 | m: 214.676.9825 bwor...@coburns.com ** ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith
Hi Will What you are raising is the issue of internal customised U2 sites which are a dying breed. The new market is applications where people buy the applications, not the database. Vendors see no benefit from advertising that they use U2 where they get no financial benefit and they could disadvantage themselves. Even Oracle based packages are talking less about Oracle. If a site is Microsoft SQL Server, why get yourself knocked off the list. The trend is such that Oracle is buying ERP tools to sell, because people no longer make decisions on Databases. SAP is moving the customer to their purchased Sybase database. The market is all moving towards applications as the decision making process. George and I advertise that we run on U2 product, but many of the ISVs don't see any benefit. Regards David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code
Just tested this on our server and it is placing spaces instead of the tab character. You may have to change your tab setting. (Windows/Preference /Ant/Editor/Formatter) - uncheck the "Use tab char instead of spaces" checkbox I am using Version 3.0.3 of the BDT. I remember that there were some issues with the previous version, in regards to tab character Rgds Bernard -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Worley Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012 4:57 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. Does anyone know of a way to specify how the code editor formats? Ctrl-Shift-F removes leading spaces, then indents lines using tab char(9) instead of spaces. Example: FORMAT results from TCL EDitor: 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: IF S=12 THEN 0005: CRT 'HELLO' 0006: END ELSE 0007: GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016:END Bottom at line 16. Format (Ctrl-Shift-F) results in BDT 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: ^009IF S=12 THEN 0005: ^009^009CRT 'HELLO' 0006: ^009END ELSE 0007: ^009^009GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: ^009END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016: END Bottom at line 16. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1GbN4XQ5mL/2JnvmxsxrmsiZ8bknJMEeb/0.6 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - off topic question
We were on Universe 10.3 which did not work with Eclipse/BDT. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:41 PM, doug wrote: > Could you not use it before you upgraded? Sorry about being off topic > > Dougc > > > > ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith
Advantage to whom? It's not an advantage when a customer says they want to go to application xyz because their existing computer can't do something. It means that the MV world loses another customer. If we had a resource we could say, yes it can do that, here's the vendor who sells exactly that thing. -Original Message- From: David Jordan To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith The hard part is that databases have become commodity items. You don't buy a Mercedes because it has a bosh EFI unit under the bonnet. Now days people are buying applications for what they are not what is under the hood. Keeping that secret is a competitive advantage. David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
The hard part is that databases have become commodity items. You don't buy a Mercedes because it has a bosh EFI unit under the bonnet. Now days people are buying applications for what they are not what is under the hood. Keeping that secret is a competitive advantage. David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
Several reasons Firstly to do that means getting people's permission, most of the ones who've given consent are on the Rocket website anyway, but there are a lot who aren't. Secondly many companies don't view it as a priority because it is not perceived by many that it will get them sales Thirdly a list goes out of date fairly quickly And finally it isn't hard to work it as we do, if I am looking for an application for widget manufacturing I only have to send an email to a handful of people and by the next day I'll have the information I need. George On 19/12/2012 20:57, "Wjhonson" wrote: > If you "know who to ask" why not publish the list of who sells what? > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: George Land > To: U2 Users List > Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 12:43 pm > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > > The only people really who sell the database without an application are the > distributors, everyone else is selling OEM with the database bundled in the > application. As distributors we don't have a list but we know our own > customers and if someone is after an application that is in a particular > vertical we know who to ask in the other geographies. > > George > > > On 19/12/2012 17:59, "Wjhonson" wrote: > >> That's too bad. One of the main selling points of the Pick Hits books, was >> that a reseller of the OS, pitching a new hardware/support customer, could >> look up if any vendor had a "Video Store" solution, or a "Collections" >> solution >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Daniel McGrath >> To: U2 Users List >> Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:26 am >> Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith >> >> >> I'm not sure if there is a resource that would list them for you. >> >> While we do know internally who is using, we wouldn't advertise that without >> their explicit consent. In that regards, I do know we have at least 1 case >> study >> from a partner on our website >> http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/case-studies >> >> The customer is P2 Energy. They recently presented a CMUG in Denver for those >> go >> to that user group. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org >> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] >> On Behalf Of Wjhonson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:09 AM >> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >> Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith >> >> Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold >> which were written using System Builder" ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Daniel McGrath >> To: U2 Users List >> Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am >> Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith >> >> >> Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie >> has >> been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder >> acquisition, I believe). >> >> Most of the SB folk will know him well. >> >> Regards, >> Dan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org >> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] >> On Behalf Of Wjhonson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM >> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >> Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith >> >> This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I >> should). Does he post here? >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> >> >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> >> >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
If you "know who to ask" why not publish the list of who sells what? -Original Message- From: George Land To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith The only people really who sell the database without an application are the distributors, everyone else is selling OEM with the database bundled in the application. As distributors we don't have a list but we know our own customers and if someone is after an application that is in a particular vertical we know who to ask in the other geographies. George On 19/12/2012 17:59, "Wjhonson" wrote: > That's too bad. One of the main selling points of the Pick Hits books, was > that a reseller of the OS, pitching a new hardware/support customer, could > look up if any vendor had a "Video Store" solution, or a "Collections" > solution > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel McGrath > To: U2 Users List > Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:26 am > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > > I'm not sure if there is a resource that would list them for you. > > While we do know internally who is using, we wouldn't advertise that without > their explicit consent. In that regards, I do know we have at least 1 case > study > from a partner on our website > http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/case-studies > > The customer is P2 Energy. They recently presented a CMUG in Denver for those > go > to that user group. > > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] > On Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:09 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold > which were written using System Builder" ? > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel McGrath > To: U2 Users List > Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > > Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie > has > been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder > acquisition, I believe). > > Most of the SB folk will know him well. > > Regards, > Dan > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] > On Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I > should). Does he post here? > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
The only people really who sell the database without an application are the distributors, everyone else is selling OEM with the database bundled in the application. As distributors we don't have a list but we know our own customers and if someone is after an application that is in a particular vertical we know who to ask in the other geographies. George On 19/12/2012 17:59, "Wjhonson" wrote: > That's too bad. One of the main selling points of the Pick Hits books, was > that a reseller of the OS, pitching a new hardware/support customer, could > look up if any vendor had a "Video Store" solution, or a "Collections" > solution > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel McGrath > To: U2 Users List > Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:26 am > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > > I'm not sure if there is a resource that would list them for you. > > While we do know internally who is using, we wouldn't advertise that without > their explicit consent. In that regards, I do know we have at least 1 case > study > from a partner on our website > http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/case-studies > > The customer is P2 Energy. They recently presented a CMUG in Denver for those > go > to that user group. > > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] > On Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:09 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold > which were written using System Builder" ? > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel McGrath > To: U2 Users List > Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am > Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > > Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie > has > been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder > acquisition, I believe). > > Most of the SB folk will know him well. > > Regards, > Dan > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] > On Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith > > This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I > should). Does he post here? > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
I first met Vinnie over a System Builder 5.1 application at the Home Office in Bootle, Liverpool, UK in 1988 or 89, so yes, he goes back with SB and MV a long time and he's been in the U2 team in Denver for many years - I'd guess 10 or 15. George > > > On 19/12/2012 17:02, "Daniel McGrath" wrote: > >> Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie >> has been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the >> SystemBuilder >> acquisition, I believe). >> >> Most of the SB folk will know him well. >> >> Regards, >> Dan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org >> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM >> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >> Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith >> >> This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I >> should). Does he post here? >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> ___ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - off topic question
Could you not use it before you upgraded? Sorry about being off topic Dougc Sent from Samsung tabletBobby Worley wrote:We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. Does anyone know of a way to specify how the code editor formats? Ctrl-Shift-F removes leading spaces, then indents lines using tab char(9) instead of spaces. Example: FORMAT results from TCL EDitor: 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: IF S=12 THEN 0005: CRT 'HELLO' 0006: END ELSE 0007: GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016: END Bottom at line 16. Format (Ctrl-Shift-F) results in BDT 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: ^009IF S=12 THEN 0005: ^009^009CRT 'HELLO' 0006: ^009END ELSE 0007: ^009^009GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: ^009END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016: END Bottom at line 16. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code
That Eclipse reference requires you to build a new format template because you cannot change the default or built-in templates. And that my friends is why I would highly not recommend that. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tool.html "XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers" On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Bill Brutzman wrote: > Googling... eclipse text format... yielded... among other things... > > http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Default-Format-Settings-in-Eclipse > > --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code
Googling... eclipse text format... yielded... among other things... http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Default-Format-Settings-in-Eclipse --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Worley Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:57 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. Does anyone know of a way to specify how the code editor formats? Ctrl-Shift-F removes leading spaces, then indents lines using tab char(9) instead of spaces. Example: FORMAT results from TCL EDitor: 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: IF S=12 THEN 0005: CRT 'HELLO' 0006: END ELSE 0007: GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016:END Bottom at line 16. Format (Ctrl-Shift-F) results in BDT 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: ^009IF S=12 THEN 0005: ^009^009CRT 'HELLO' 0006: ^009END ELSE 0007: ^009^009GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: ^009END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016: END Bottom at line 16. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
That's too bad. One of the main selling points of the Pick Hits books, was that a reseller of the OS, pitching a new hardware/support customer, could look up if any vendor had a "Video Store" solution, or a "Collections" solution -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:26 am Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith I'm not sure if there is a resource that would list them for you. While we do know internally who is using, we wouldn't advertise that without their explicit consent. In that regards, I do know we have at least 1 case study from a partner on our website http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/case-studies The customer is P2 Energy. They recently presented a CMUG in Denver for those go to that user group. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:09 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold which were written using System Builder" ? -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie has been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder acquisition, I believe). Most of the SB folk will know him well. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I should). Does he post here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] BDT - formatting basic code
We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. Does anyone know of a way to specify how the code editor formats? Ctrl-Shift-F removes leading spaces, then indents lines using tab char(9) instead of spaces. Example: FORMAT results from TCL EDitor: 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: IF S=12 THEN 0005: CRT 'HELLO' 0006: END ELSE 0007: GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016:END Bottom at line 16. Format (Ctrl-Shift-F) results in BDT 0001: S='' 0002: X=9 0003: FOR I = 1 TO X 0004: ^009IF S=12 THEN 0005: ^009^009CRT 'HELLO' 0006: ^009END ELSE 0007: ^009^009GOSUB DO.SOMETHING 0008: ^009END 0009: NEXT I 0010: RETURN 0011: 0012: DO.SOMETHING: 0013: R2='D2' 0014: RETURN 0015: 0016: END Bottom at line 16. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
I'm not sure if there is a resource that would list them for you. While we do know internally who is using, we wouldn't advertise that without their explicit consent. In that regards, I do know we have at least 1 case study from a partner on our website http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/case-studies The customer is P2 Energy. They recently presented a CMUG in Denver for those go to that user group. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:09 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold which were written using System Builder" ? -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie has been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder acquisition, I believe). Most of the SB folk will know him well. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I should). Does he post here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold which were written using System Builder" ? -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie has been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder acquisition, I believe). Most of the SB folk will know him well. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I should). Does he post here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith
Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie has been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder acquisition, I believe). Most of the SB folk will know him well. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Vinnie Smith This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I should). Does he post here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Vinnie Smith
This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I should). Does he post here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wally Terhune [not-secure]
Live long and prosper, Mr. Terhune! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of James Canale, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:47 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] Wally Terhune Wally, Best wishes on your retirement. Your knowledge, professionalism and dedication was a primary motivating factor in my push to select UniData as a partner 20+ years ago. That decision was rewarded time and time again as you helped support us through the years. You are truly one of the great ones and I know you will be missed by all. Best always, Jim ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION: The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and protected from general disclosure. If the recipient or reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or a person responsible to receive this e-mail for the intended recipient, please do not disseminate, distribute or copy it. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. We will take immediate and appropriate action to see to it that this mistake is corrected.[*LD*] ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
