Re: [U2] Presentation on Python to UniVerse
No other software is required to make this work - except the intercall library and python. But, to help with the python coding, there is ctypesgen - https://code.google.com/p/ctypesgen/ - which will create a python to intcall library. The other files, intcall.h and the *.so files are free from Rocket and supplied with UV. See the InterCall documentation. Good luck. djm George Gallen-2 wrote: We are running UV 10.1 on RHEL. Do you know if it will interface with this level? Is there any other software (licenses) required to allow the interface to work? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Presentation-on-Python-to-UniVerse-tp32983185p32995017.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Presentation on Python to UniVerse
Crikey, you are hitting the holiday spirit(s) early... George Gallen-2 wrote: Wow...Models too, what was she wearing? Now that gives a new twist to Leg-a-see. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Presentation-on-Python-to-UniVerse-tp32983185p32989244.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Presentation on Python to UniVerse
ctypes with Python work were ever there is a intcall library file. On MS-Windows, there is a Uvic32.dll and on Linux a corresponding .so file. These are used by ctypes to enable Python to communicate with U2. I have not done any speed tests, but simple record reads are as fast as the program runs and spits out the data. But, since all the interface software that Rocket provides uses the RPC - which is a network connection to the database with some server software doing all the data gathering. So, the transfer speed will never be as good as a direct access approach to the database. I have a library for Python using ctypes and intcall, and will make the next version available after I complete the unit tests. George Gallen-2 wrote: Will it work with linux? Or just windows? It worked, but it was too slow. It would average 2-3 seconds for a record read because of all the layers. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Presentation-on-Python-to-UniVerse-tp32983185p32989737.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Graph DataBase
I also, to some extent, agree with Dawn. The mv, NF**2, post relational, PICK, or whatever the correct model name is, it is not a relational database. There are very strict definitions to a relational database, namely, but not complete, normalisation, SQL, joins etc. Yes, the mv model can emulate a relational database. But, it you throw away the dict part of a file, the data is actually in a form of a document. And, if you go way back to the definition of a database model created for analysis - Entity-Relationship by Chen in the early 1980's, the mv model is very close to the ER model. So, if you add back the dictionaries, the database model could be a DDERDBMS - Dictionary Driven Entity-Relationship Data Base Management System. Anyway, whatever mongoDB classify themselves as, so should the PICK model. But then, U2 is not that well known, as it is not marketed to end users per se. It is an embedded database for VAR's. The focus is on the application, not the underlying database. This could be seen as a problem in some markets. So, it could be seen to be lost energy promoting the database to end users or developers within the nosql market as U2 is not open source, hence costs money, does not scale that well (sharding and/or federation) and is not really for high volume loads within a web service delivery environment. It's a good solid product for well established actively-promoted vertical market applications which need to extend to the surrounding I.T. ecosystem. Dawn Wolthuis wrote: I do disagree with this. If neo4j meets the not-determined criteria (except by marketing departments) then MV products do too. MV vendors might have suggested they are relational at varying points in their history (again marketing depts) but they do not meet Relational or at least SQL-only DBMS criteria. We are very much in the not-SQL-only camp whether we proclaim it or not. No product in that mix does everything. I put Tom del's nodal logo on a blog entry in 2006. It is someone in the MV space that has the nodal domains. We are NoSQL, no doubt, but we can decide to stay in our MV sandbox rather than joining the game if we so choose. --dawn - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Graph-DataBase-tp32982649p32989771.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Graph DataBase
I also, to some extent, agree with Dawn. The mv, NF**2, post relational, PICK, or whatever the correct model name is, it is not a relational database. There are very strict definitions to a relational database, namely, but not complete, normalisation, SQL, joins etc. Yes, the mv model can emulate a relational database. But, it you throw away the dict part of a file, the data is actually in a form of a document. And, if you go way back to the definition of a database model created for analysis - Entity-Relationship by Chen in the early 1980's, the mv model is very close to the ER model. So, if you add back the dictionaries, the database model could be a DDERDBMS - Dictionary Driven Entity-Relationship Data Base Management System. Anyway, whatever mongoDB classify themselves as, so should the PICK model. But then, U2 is not that well known, as it is not marketed to end users per se. It is an embedded database for VAR's. The focus is on the application, not the underlying database. This could be seen as a problem in some markets. So, it could be seen to be lost energy promoting the database to end users or developers within the nosql market as U2 is not open source, hence costs money, does not scale that well (sharding and/or federation) and is not really for high volume loads within a web service delivery environment. It's a good solid product for well established actively-promoted vertical market applications which need to extend to the surrounding I.T. ecosystem. Dawn Wolthuis wrote: I do disagree with this. If neo4j meets the not-determined criteria (except by marketing departments) then MV products do too. MV vendors might have suggested they are relational at varying points in their history (again marketing depts) but they do not meet Relational or at least SQL-only DBMS criteria. We are very much in the not-SQL-only camp whether we proclaim it or not. No product in that mix does everything. I put Tom del's nodal logo on a blog entry in 2006. It is someone in the MV space that has the nodal domains. We are NoSQL, no doubt, but we can decide to stay in our MV sandbox rather than joining the game if we so choose. --dawn - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Graph-DataBase-tp32982649p32989774.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Presentation on Python to UniVerse
In case anyone is interested, I am doing a presentation to the local Python Users Group - Northern VA, USA - on using ctypes in Python to access UniVerse. It's tonight. See: http://nova-python.dcpython.org/events/39802302/ Cheers, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Presentation-on-Python-to-UniVerse-tp32983185p32983185.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Presentation on Python to UniVerse
Interesting idea. From the comments from the audience and the experience, I will probably make some changes to the ppt and then in the new year stick it on my blog with notes. I did poorly with my smart-art UniVerse Model - couldn't be read from a distance, well actually not even close up (: As I am not a VAR, just a consultant/developer/contractor who has to program in the U2 environment. I consider it a legacy programming toolchain. Lets just leave it at that, as I'm not interested in another flame war. This point of view has been beaten to death numerous times this year. It's now too close to Christmas for another one. Happy Merry New Christmas Year to all. djm Charles_Shaffer wrote: Are you considering posting a white paper on the presentation? And/or with slides? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Presentation-on-Python-to-UniVerse-tp32983185p32985833.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Is SB+ object-oriented?
SB+ is not object-oriented. It is actually highly-functional in nature - the underlining PROCESS call structure is: @RTN.FLAG = PROCESS(@PARMS, @VALUE) Where @RTN.FLAG is an output, @PARMS is an input and @VALUE is normally the output, but can be used as an input also. This is common to all the processes. Check the International Spectrum magazine for Jan/FEB 2010 - http://www.intl-spectrum.com/mag/JANFEB.2010/default.aspx - where there is an article regarding this. It is for Revelation and will not work in UniBasic due to the inability to dynamically name NAMED COMMON's. But worth a read. But, why would you want to? Just use Python or java or C# or VB.net and intercall if you want to go that route. djm WJhonson wrote: Can Pick BASIC code simulate an object oriented environment? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Is-SB%2B-object-oriented--tp32963143p32970947.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe and SQL
I wrote a small article way back in 2007 using the ECL CONNECT verb and the ODBC driver to access mysql. http://mvdbs.com/2007/10/08/universe-odbc-to-mysql/ It works OK. djm WJhonson wrote: But can Universe, access SQL tables which are *not* in Universe? They are just other SQL tables in other places around the network that usually is update by other non Pick software. Can Universe also access those tables? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Universe-and-SQL-tp32948798p32958062.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] U2 Platform Block Diagram
Hi all, Some time ago (years I think) I remember seeing a block diagram breakdown of the UniVerse or Unidata platform. The database at the bottom, UniBasic above, SOAP server off to one side, interfaces to the other. I wanted to use it for a presentation, but for the life of me, I can not find a copy. Does anyone know of this diagram? And has a copy? Thanking all in advance, Cheers, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/U2-Platform-Block-Diagram-tp32958073p32958073.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
PICK is a highly proprietary database development environment which is SOLD to VAR's. Therefore, it is not much of a hobbyists tool for development. Therefore, assuming that most programmers are employed by a company, who owns the code anyway? Nor is it an open source development environment, as an application is really meant to have the database embedded. Rather difficult to achieve to when you can't even get a RRP on a license. And would a VAR really want some odd-ball software installed into THEIR products embedded database? What actually is missing and would be of significant interest (to me) and help is a list of design and analysis patterns. These already exist for other environments via books and websites. And there has been periodically discussions here on the best way to generally do things e.g. processing lists via removing items from the front of the list. But, this really should be a Rocket Software initiated process as it is THEIR product and it adds value for all. ...2 cents worth... WJhonson wrote: Attempts at making Pick code collaboration projects have been mostly unsuccessful. Why? How can we create a true collaborative project and Would Anyone Come ? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857145.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
The contractual obligations between a employee, contractor and software vendor differ. I always abide by the contractual obligations. I have no issues with group collaborations. But I would not use U2 or a PICK derivative for such a project as I can not legally obtain a licensed copy of U2 (not that I have contacted Rocket to purchase a license). The Personal Editions have a strict license which does not include production; which I would have thought that a group collaboration project would full under. WJhonson wrote: You don't believe in group collaboration? My client is the end user, not the vendor. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857388.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Well, it's not really worth a fight as I am not a lawyer, but from the wed site: This edition is designed for single-user personal development and training as well as sales demos. It is not for remarketing or use in production environments. The use of 'personal development and training' is quite explicit to me. I would have thought that producing an application is production and if it was supplied for code/application development, then it would not be limited to 2 users and small files as part of any development is the testing of a normal working environment - large files and multiple users - all which can not be done on a PE edition. But, it's neither here nor there really as how can you develop an application on an environment when you are locked out of important bug fixes and work arounds and such stuff when you are not a VAR. Which begs the point; any VAR here can inform if they get their in-house development and testing U2/SB+/Web Dev software for free? WJhonson wrote: That license does not mean production of code Rather it means a production environment meaning in use by an end user who isn't a developer Of course developers can use the PE to develop code, that's the very point of making it free to developers. -Original Message- From: DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) nab...@mvdbs.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 12:24 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration The contractual obligations between a employee, contractor and software endor differ. I always abide by the contractual obligations. I have no issues with group collaborations. But I would not use U2 or a PICK erivative for such a project as I can not legally obtain a licensed copy of 2 (not that I have contacted Rocket to purchase a license). The Personal ditions have a strict license which does not include production; which I ould have thought that a group collaboration project would full under. WJhonson wrote: You don't believe in group collaboration? My client is the end user, not the vendor. Learn and Do xcel and Share ttp://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com - iew this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857388.html ent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857475.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Then Rocket should change the licensing info on their web site: This edition is designed for single-user personal development and training as well as sales demos. It is not for remarketing or use in production environments. I take 'personal development' as self-training. What you say contradicts the above. Daniel McGrath wrote: Prior to joining Rocket, that is exactly what I did to open-source a cut-down version of a code coverage tool I had written: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ucov/. There is no reason why developers could not work on this code using the PE editions of the databases. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager Rocket Software 4600 S. Ulster Street **Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 * USA Tel: +1.720.475.8098 * Fax: +1.617.630.7392 Email: dmcgr...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:24 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration The contractual obligations between a employee, contractor and software vendor differ. I always abide by the contractual obligations. I have no issues with group collaborations. But I would not use U2 or a PICK derivative for such a project as I can not legally obtain a licensed copy of U2 (not that I have contacted Rocket to purchase a license). The Personal Editions have a strict license which does not include production; which I would have thought that a group collaboration project would full under. WJhonson wrote: You don't believe in group collaboration? My client is the end user, not the vendor. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857388.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857488.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Good to get that sorted. Back to code collaboration. Daniel McGrath wrote: It is 'personal development' as opposed to 'commercial development'. That is also development as in software development, not as in self-improvement development. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Code-Collaboration-tp32856673p32857553.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
Try MongoDB - It's a good match to a mvdbms and has drivers for most common programming environments. djm phil walker-2 wrote: Why are you using MySql if you are after free you could use Postgresql which I believe supported nested tables built in? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Suggestions-for-flattening-Multivalues...-tp32813168p32813844.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [ot] Is it just me.....
I thought first of oranges due to the starting 'sun kissed' phrase. Personally, I find Yellowtail reasonable scoffing wine. George Gallen-2 wrote: Or was I the only person that wasn't thinking wine during this commercial? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0fwYKCvIE - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-ot--Is-it-just-me.-tp32752050p32774020.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UD Re-indexing
From a lot of the questions posted here, I have assumed that not many people actually have support contracts these days. Or the support mechanism is too difficult or complicated and it's quicker to ask here. slestak wrote: Do you have a support contract with Rocket? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UD-Re-indexing-tp32761594p32774068.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [ot] Is it just me.....
Oh, stop w[h]ining ha ha ha, ho ho ho arrgh hum... cough yes George Gallen-2 wrote: What caught my attention was the repeated use of .. GO-TO Kinda gave me shivers.although, wine is not an object oriented proceduremore of an object disoriented! Since the object is to become disoriented, so maybe it is appropriate I knowSAD...very sad. - - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-ot--Is-it-just-me.-tp32752050p32774094.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2?
Dan, Did you complete the article regarding ramdisks and U2? djm Daniel McGrath wrote: I've used them in development, but not in Production. I am just about to post an article that includes usage; I just haven't had time to finish proof-reading it. For windows, check it this question: http://superuser.com/questions/34388/whats-the-best-ramdisk-for-windows Regards, Dan -Original Message- Is anyone using a RAMDisk with U2 files? I have noticed that there are two types of ram disks within Linux - tmpfs and /dev/ram1 which can be used to create a small file system. Does anyone have any practical experience on these options? Is there an effective option for MS-Windows? Cheers, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Why-Pick-U2--tp32061959p32775910.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Free Software for DataBasic
Over the last weekend, I noticed that the pickwiki.com (the common mv code website) does not have any games programmes. I can remember playing the star-trek and adventure games on a Ultimate (or Altos I think), many years ago. Does anyone have any remnant or complete code that they can (legally) and would be willing to contribute to pickwiki.com? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Free-Software-for-DataBasic-tp32424680p32424680.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2?
I mean using the existing RAM within the system to create and mount a small file system which a temporary U2 file can be created and used; rather than a complete SSD device. John Thompson-15 wrote: Its expensive... and it seems fairly safe as IBM, HP, and Dell are all selling it now... - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Why-Pick-U2--tp32061959p32335366.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2?
I was looking at writing a similar article/blog post as I am reading on coalesced hashing at the moment. I'll wait until yours appears. Daniel McGrath wrote: I am just about to post an article that includes usage; I just haven't had time to finish proof-reading it. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Why-Pick-U2--tp32061959p32335579.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse backups to disk
Chris Lee-17 wrote: What's the best way to achieve this, is it necessary to use UniVerse's built-in uvbackup utility ? In the past for a small client who had a overnight 'dead' period, I used a simple windows script (UniVerse on MS-Windows) to backup using uvbackup to a scratch disk, which was flagged to be backed up later, via the network backup server. The backup software did not have a plugin for UniVerse (I'm not sure that any enterprise backup software does) as is common for MS-Exchange/MS-SQL etc. which are data structure and transaction processing aware. The issue with backing up out of the UniVerse environment is the lack of control over incomplete transactions and caching. Always best to use uvbackup if possible. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UniVerse-backups-to-disk-tp32284751p32289120.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Can this Selection be done? Either UV or SQL?
The LSELECT is actually from IBM/Rocket and can be found here: https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/articles/u2-select/u2-select kebbon.irwin wrote: I think if you look up old posts on LSELECT, you may find an acceptable answer. It is a program that creates and uses work files, but once written, it works like a verb. I got it from the list and now use it regularly Cheers, Kebbon - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Can-this-Selection-be-done--Either-UV-or-SQL--tp32227537p32244342.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] u2ug
No, it is not just you. Maybe maintenance is happening. Dan McGrath-2 wrote: u2ug has been unavailable for at least a day. Is it just me? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/u2ug-tp31736911p31737148.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
George Gallen-2 wrote: Maybe we should have a mini thead on Cool things I've got my UV system to do with a mobile device! - or at the least, cool things, I've got my system to do with a mobile device - just not in UV I don't see this as a UV deficit, but rather a knowledge deficit in the sense that if we don't know what we can't do, it's hard to want to do it, or realize that we should be doing it! What about just - Cool things I've got my MV system to do! - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Pondering-recent-thread-on-compact-framework-tp31651311p31658267.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Git and U2
Thanks everyone for your replies. As it looks like I will now be hosting on google code (as its free) I have a choice of subversion or mercurial. Weekend reading will be in order... Cheers, djm DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: Has anyone used Git and U2 - either UniVerse or Unidata - together? Or any other suggestions for a version control - open source is preferred? Thanks in advance, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Git-and-U2-tp31053109p31060218.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
In Rockets last newsletter - 28 Feb 2011 - they state that UniVerse 11.1 on Linux as PE will be available real soon now... Bob Little-4 wrote: I see UniData PE for Linux and UniVerse PE for Windows, but I don't see UniVerse PE for Linux. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-PE-Linux-tp31048789p31050189.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Git and U2
Has anyone used Git and U2 - either UniVerse or Unidata - together? Or any other suggestions for a version control - open source is preferred? Thanks in advance, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Git-and-U2-tp31053109p31053109.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Unidata programming books?
This was recently covered with respect to UniVerse. See - http://old.nabble.com/Universe-Books--to30840562.html in this forum. Cheers, djm newuser1 wrote: Hi, I recently discovered this wonderful forum and I really would like to expand my unibasic/unidata programming skills especially writing subroutines. Can anyone recommend me some good books on this? We're using Unidata 7.1. Thank you - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Unidata-programming-books--tp31040442p31040445.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
Just continuing on how the SUBROUTINE, FUNCTION, and SUBR are related. http://mvdbs.com/2011/02/26/dry-subroutines/ Comments and suggestions always appreciated. Cheers, djm DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: I often used the SUBR function within UniBasic as it can be interchanged with FUNCTION definitions etc; which enables a write-once, use everywhere approach (within UniBasic, derived fields, and in SB+ via some small wrapper code). - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p31021151.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] New Rocket U2 'Developer Zone'
A good collection of articles, similar to what IBM had. And as a non-VAR person, I can access it! Bonus djm Dan McGrath-2 wrote: Just putting it out there for anyone who did not attend one of the U2U conferences and like me, didn't hear about it through any other channel. www.u2devzone.com/ - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/New-Rocket-U2-%27Developer-Zone%27-tp31010223p31016325.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities
I am putting the finishing touches to a py2ic package using ctypes to interface to intercall. I want to include unit testing due to the multiple platforms, but unit testing in python is new to me, so I'm just pottering along and learning as I go. When I'm finished, I was going to have a look at a F-Correlative interpreter in python, but maybe a EDA to PostgreSQL using python might be more interesting. djm slestak wrote: Oh, but pls do. I'll help. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Friendfeed-and-U2-EDA-similarities-tp30953121p31016359.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Scripps Networking Services - softwaresearch.com
As a side but related - has anyone had dealings with softwaresearch.com - Larry Okeson? I'm on the job hunt and am trying to identify the good from the bad. Cheers, djm Bessel, Karen wrote: Has anybody heard about a job opportunity with this company, contact names Dan Maxwell and/or Jenna Wade? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Scripps-Networking-Services-tp30839704p31008805.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities
Then I won't get carried away and write a python middle-ware driver. slestak wrote: I do not know. I have not worked at the site that had exposure to EDA in almost 6 years. My current gig is not using it. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Friendfeed-and-U2-EDA-similarities-tp30953121p31008830.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities
So, no-one is actually doing active development and clever things with EDA? I was just wondering since UniVerse now has EDA, someone must be doing something wonderful with it besides ticking boxes in a tender document? Or is it a secret-squirrel VAR thing? :) Cheers, djm David Jordan wrote: The main benefit for EDA is to be able to tell clients that your application runs on Oracle, DB2, SQL Server, etc. The question is, how much of the Database needs to be put on the external database to satisfy a customer's expectation. Do you just transport information for enquiry/data warehouse data or do you transfer the whole transaction database. One are to be aware is that most pick applications are pessimistic locking and SQL databases prefer optimistic locking for performance. It would usually require U2 to the only application updating the database. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Friendfeed-and-U2-EDA-similarities-tp30953121p30979366.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [SPAM?]Re: silly company names
And lets not forget Kodak - https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Kodak#Kodak_name https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Kodak#Kodak_name slestak wrote: I am not in marketing by any means, but isnt the chore for branding to make something that sticks whether it is a word or not? Sony is not a real word, but a great company name. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Frustrated-with-Rocket---Unidata-7.2-tp30955027p30979398.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities
Is anyone using the EDA features of U2? I assume that at least one VAR must have wanted the ability to use another DBMS besides the U2 one as the amount of effort in implementing EDA is no small task. I was just interested in the applications and purpose of EDA. Cheers, djm DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: The method is very, very similar to the U2 EDA. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Friendfeed-and-U2-EDA-similarities-tp30953121p30967550.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
Well, it is sort of the OS. The OS, as the likes of Red Hat, are a collection of utilities, of which cut is one. To deal with the changing versions of these utilities, many enterprise versions of Linux will freeze the utilities versions in a release called LTS - Long Term Support. Overtime, 1-2 years, many of these utilities; mySQL, Apache, PHP, and Python, in particular get stuck on old versions. This is why many enterprise applications, of which U2 is one, will specify which brand and release of the OS it will successfully install and run on. If this was not so, then supporting of the ever moving versions of Linux would be a nightmare. This is one of the main disadvantages of Linux and is how Red Hat, Ubuntu, and Suse market their enterprise versions of Linux - a Long Term Supported frozen version of utilities (security fixes are one of the few changes that are backported) that they will support. Fedora, in particular, ubuntu, and others are rather bleeding edge with the versions of utilities which they provide and it is always a continuous chore of dealing with the install and running of applications which break due to the changes. I use Ubuntu for the pretty desktops and boring plain CentOS for servers for these reasons. Cheers, djm George Gallen-2 wrote: apprantly, it's not the OS, it's the version of cut. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-on-Linux-question...-tp30953691p30959790.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities
Found an small interesting article about how the web site friendfeed store their data within MySQL rather than using a non-sql database. The method is very, very similar to the U2 EDA. If anyone is interested in this EDA technique - http://bret.appspot.com/entry/how-friendfeed-uses-mysql or my article - http://mvdbs.com/2011/02/17/friendfeed-and-eda/ Cheers, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Friendfeed-and-U2-EDA-similarities-tp30953121p30953121.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
Even though Fedora is sort-of (but not) the 'community' version of Red Hat, there are major differences between the two; which are not clearly documented when it comes to commercial applications - installing and running. If you have to use U2 on a 'freedom' version of Red Hat, I suggest that you have a look at CentOS - centos.org and use that instead of Fedora. George Gallen-2 wrote: I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-on-Linux-question...-tp30953691p30955980.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
A Try/Catch construct is similar to the SQL TRANSACTION block - (BEGIN TRANSACTION/END TRANSACTION) where if any statement within the block fails, the sequence is stopped and action is taken. Within context to the SQL TRANSACTION, a rollback is performed. My thoughts come from the opening of multiple files at the start of a routine. Each file is opened with either an OPEN statement, the SB+ SB.FILE.VAR.S routine, or similar and then a error check is performed. If an error occurred, then there is no point in continuing with opening the other files and some sort of error message and abort is performed. This can get messy with a moderately large number of files to open and really is just repeated grunt code. Using a Try/Catch construct around the file open statements, if and when a open fails, the construct automatically exits to an exception block and performs the error logging etc. This is just a more elegant and tidier method than multiple OPEN ... ELSE ... END with common code or if using SB+ - CALL SB.FILE.VAR.S(); IF RTN.FLAG NE 0 THEN ... END for each open. A Try/Catch can also be used around other code sequences where a failure in one statement should abort the total sequence; eg. socket handling. A CASE construct is not the same as the Try/Catch - though internally, if would involve a CASE for the detection and selection on the error code and what action to perform on failure. Ron Hutchings wrote: Since I was following this thread, I just could get it out of my head why the CASE syntax didn't do what you want. The other thing that did occur to me, is it seems like your imposed restrictions would have applied to using the DEFFUN construct. You could define several functions and use them at will throughout your code or wrap IF-THEN-ELSE logic around them as needed. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30896461.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
Dan, That makes sense. Something was nagging me from the back of the brain; I think that I was getting confused between the CALL and SUBR statements. I often used the SUBR function within UniBasic as it can be interchanged with FUNCTION definitions etc; which enables a write-once, use everywhere approach (within UniBasic, derived fields, and in SB+ via some small wrapper code). It took me a while to find it - in the UniVerse Basic Reference manual, the use of SUBR does not require a catalog if the called routine is in the same object file as the calling routine. Interestingly enough, this is also implied in the SUBROUTINE documentation. Dan McGrath-2 wrote: David, I just tested it and it doesn't. If it isn't catalogued it doesn't find it, regardless of whether or not the object code is in the same directory. -Original Message- Does it not check within the same BP file as the calling routine first; as cataloging is not then necessary? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30882672.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
I had a look at the idea back in 2007 - in UniBasic and SB+. http://mvdbs.com/2007/08/01/try-and-catch/ and http://mvdbs.com/2007/08/16/try-and-catch-part-2/ . SB+ was easier as RTN.FLAG is used throughout the system and can quite easily be used as the exception catch. Within UniBasic, there is already @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE and @USER.RETURN.CODE. @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is currently used by a number of statements e.g. PERFORM; so it should be possible to just extend upon that. It really would be a nice feature to be added. Anyone here a paid-up member to the Rocket U2 club and can put a word in? Cheers, djm Symeon Breen wrote: A try/catch/exception concept in unibasic would be great. However to do it properly would probably require a fair bit of effort inside u2, as they would have to start exposing exceptions to the language e.g. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30872606.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
Does it not check within the same BP file as the calling routine first; as cataloging is not then necessary? djm Dan McGrath-2 wrote: 3. Once for the VOC, once for the Local Catalog and once for the Global Catalog. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30879242.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
UniBasic, at times really, does need a try/except statement. Most modern programming languages have some variation on: TRY stuff stuff EXCEPT stuff stuff ELSE stuff stuff FINALLY It should not be that difficult to implement; maybe a request to Rocket might get it added to uniBasic? djm George Gallen-2 wrote: I want to setup a block of commands, and be able to exit out of the block if needed. Right now I use a LOOP/REPEAT with an EXIT statement before the REPEAT. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30868800.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
Has anyone measured the overheads of the various methods of subroutine calls within UniBasic? Is it of significance? djm Kate Stanton wrote: Why not use a subroutine? Personally, I like subroutines! - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30868821.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command
Dan, Interesting stuff. How was the subroutine cataloged? At all? Is there not a hierarchical system that UniBasic goes through attempting to find the subroutine? I would have thought the search would have taken significantly more effort as it may have to read from multiple files; the current BP file, the VOC, memory etc. All interesting stuff. Dan McGrath-2 wrote: I had many months ago as part of a project I'm working on (performance pre-processor for UniBasic). It's quite clear from the above timings that the line count is a bigger performance overhead then using GOSUB/RETURN Sorry for the overkill :) - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Does-UV-have-a-%22BLOCK%22-command-tp30867376p30869331.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] A new DML?
Have a look at Antler - http://www.antlr.org/ and http://pragprog.com/titles/tpdsl/language-implementation-patterns I have also looking into this as a method to extend UniBasic with a pre-processor. djm slestak wrote: I think I will be tinkering with this soon. I have to believe Intercall should give the best perfomance available, since it is at the lowest level. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-UUID--was-Data-in-Dict--tp30772851p30869344.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] A new DML?
Thanks for you kind comments. Remember to comment any article that you find of value. Cheers, djm slestak wrote: Thank You David! Nice blog. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) nab...@mvdbs.com wrote: Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module: http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/ Cheers, djm slestak wrote: This might be a way to call the Intercall routines. http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-UUID--was-Data-in-Dict--tp30772851p30854045.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] A new DML?
Jeff, I have not tried ctypes etc on a 64-bit platform, but if SWIG had issues, then I would not be surprised if ctypes also had some issues. Is there not a 64-bit intercall with 64-bit UniVerse? djm Jeffrey Butera wrote: On 2/4/2011 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module: http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/ We previously attempted to use SWIG to get python to call InterCall, but ran into issues with python (64 bit) and intercall (32 bit). We didn't want to completely reinstall python from source and compile as 32 bit. Does the ctypes module in python allow calling 32-bit intercall libs from a 64-bit install of python? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-UUID--was-Data-in-Dict--tp30772851p30854198.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] A new DML?
Fixed. Thanks for that. djm slestak wrote: http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com I attempted to and got an error regarding the wordpress captcha. Not that I entered it incorrectly, just a wp malfunction. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-UUID--was-Data-in-Dict--tp30772851p30854926.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] A new DML?
Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module: http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/ Cheers, djm slestak wrote: This might be a way to call the Intercall routines. http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-UUID--was-Data-in-Dict--tp30772851p30849962.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe Books?
Since no one else mentioned them, Rocket Software does have all the manuals online as PDF's. http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/technical-resources Cheers, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Universe-Books--tp30840562p30840802.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Free software licence
Brian Leach wrote: All I've been planning for a while to release my system scanning tools (mvScan) as free/open software. Has anyone any insight to share on this? Confused Brian This might be of interest - http://civiccommons.com/2010/10/roi-of-open/ Cheers, David J Murray -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Free-software-licence-tp29982865p29992624.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Stumped with TRANS...
FFT2001 wrote: Has anyone done a timing test to compare a SUBR which uses a common section to store an opened file variable vs a TRANS ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users I did a simple timing and comparison test some time ago: http://mvdbs.com/2006/01/25/timing-trans-and-read/ http://mvdbs.com/2006/01/25/timing-trans-and-read/ Cheers, David J Murray - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Stumped-with-TRANS...-tp29910397p29995851.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Stumped with TRANS...
phil walker-2 wrote: Universe does some caching around TRANS from memory. So if you want to only do lookups your results may indicate a good solution. However, for update it will not work, and depending on the number of files being accessed, you may find there are issues with the cache being rotated. Yes, I also believe that there is file caching for the TRANS. I thought that where was a UniVerse parameter for tuning the memory allocation etc.? Like most things, the programming philosophy and techniques has to be supported by the system settings. As a side issue, there are also a series of routines within UniVerse itself (no SB+) for doing file open caching - see http://mvdbs.com/2007/11/05/appprogs-open-tools/ http://mvdbs.com/2007/11/05/appprogs-open-tools/ Cheers, David J Murray - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Stumped-with-TRANS...-tp29910397p29996275.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Stumped with TRANS...
phil walker-2 wrote: The trouble with using common for things is when you get into client/server development. You cannot guarantee the common will be available to you. Yes, it can get rather messy keeping track of individual user sessions when a common background process(s) does the heavy lifting, but I thought that THE 'RedBack' thingy did all that magic? Or whatever it is now called - U2 WDE? Cheers, David J Murray - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Stumped-with-TRANS...-tp29910397p29996429.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
