Re: And the Winner is: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption -

2007-09-13 Thread karlp
Drat. I'm always coming in 2nd. Well, other than choosing a wife. I struck
gold with that, just over 30 years ago. 8^}

And, by the way, what does Jerry win?

Karl


> Scott Thompson asked ..."> What is the best way to verify the integrity of
> a file while users are accessing (if possible at all)?"
>
> Please note that Scott only asked for a single file...
>
> Runner Up:
> Karl P
>
> was extremely close with "LIST FNAME LASTATTRIBUTE".  If he would have
> added DET.SUP, he would have been a Winner.  This would have avoided the
> output.
>
> Karl's entry would require you to press the ENTER key as the @ID and
> LASTATTRIBUTE were displayed for every record.  You would probably get
> sick of this after a while and enter a "S" to suppress the output when the
> PAK (Press Any Key to continue) prompt was requested.
>
> However, you would have to write a rather extensive PAragraph or PRoc to
> include ALL of the files.
>
> And the Winner is:
> Jerry Banker who stated:
>
> "You can try doing a uvbackup on the file to /dev/null. When the file is
> backed up it checks the integrity of the file.
> Jerry"
>
> uvbackup is the only utility that goes thru all of the files and reports
> on its integrity.
>
> uvbackup can be run with users on the system.
>
> The question that was not asked...
> Should I add the "uvbackup on the file to /dev/null" to my monthly
> processes to verify the integrity of the database?
>
> Best business practices state that this should be included every month.
> This is a more PC answer than "HELL YES, We're talkin' Job Security"!
>
> Nice Contest,
>Steve
>
>Stephen M. O'Neal
>U2 Lab Services Sales Specialist
>Information Management, IBM Software Group
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Re: And the Winner is: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption - Humor Here - plus Do this Every Month

2007-09-13 Thread iggchamp
Thanks SteveO to you and all of the entrants

-- Original message -- 
From: "Stephen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Scott Thompson asked ..."> What is the best way to verify the integrity of 
> a file while users are accessing (if possible at all)?" 
> 
> Please note that Scott only asked for a single file... 
> 
> Runner Up: 
> Karl P 
> 
> was extremely close with "LIST FNAME LASTATTRIBUTE". If he would have 
> added DET.SUP, he would have been a Winner. This would have avoided the 
> output. 
> 
> Karl's entry would require you to press the ENTER key as the @ID and 
> LASTATTRIBUTE were displayed for every record. You would probably get 
> sick of this after a while and enter a "S" to suppress the output when the 
> PAK (Press Any Key to continue) prompt was requested. 
> 
> However, you would have to write a rather extensive PAragraph or PRoc to 
> include ALL of the files. 
> 
> And the Winner is: 
> Jerry Banker who stated: 
> 
> "You can try doing a uvbackup on the file to /dev/null. When the file is 
> backed up it checks the integrity of the file. 
> Jerry" 
> 
> uvbackup is the only utility that goes thru all of the files and reports 
> on its integrity. 
> 
> uvbackup can be run with users on the system. 
> 
> The question that was not asked... 
> Should I add the "uvbackup on the file to /dev/null" to my monthly 
> processes to verify the integrity of the database? 
> 
> Best business practices state that this should be included every month. 
> This is a more PC answer than "HELL YES, We're talkin' Job Security"! 
> 
> Nice Contest, 
> Steve 
> 
> Stephen M. O'Neal 
> U2 Lab Services Sales Specialist 
> Information Management, IBM Software Group 
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And the Winner is: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption - Humor Here - plus Do this Every Month

2007-09-12 Thread Stephen O'Neal
Scott Thompson asked ..."> What is the best way to verify the integrity of 
a file while users are accessing (if possible at all)?"

Please note that Scott only asked for a single file...

Runner Up:
Karl P

was extremely close with "LIST FNAME LASTATTRIBUTE".  If he would have 
added DET.SUP, he would have been a Winner.  This would have avoided the 
output.

Karl's entry would require you to press the ENTER key as the @ID and 
LASTATTRIBUTE were displayed for every record.  You would probably get 
sick of this after a while and enter a "S" to suppress the output when the 
PAK (Press Any Key to continue) prompt was requested. 

However, you would have to write a rather extensive PAragraph or PRoc to 
include ALL of the files.

And the Winner is:
Jerry Banker who stated:

"You can try doing a uvbackup on the file to /dev/null. When the file is 
backed up it checks the integrity of the file.
Jerry"
 
uvbackup is the only utility that goes thru all of the files and reports 
on its integrity.

uvbackup can be run with users on the system. 

The question that was not asked...
Should I add the "uvbackup on the file to /dev/null" to my monthly 
processes to verify the integrity of the database?

Best business practices state that this should be included every month. 
This is a more PC answer than "HELL YES, We're talkin' Job Security"!

Nice Contest,
   Steve

   Stephen M. O'Neal
   U2 Lab Services Sales Specialist
   Information Management, IBM Software Group
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Re: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

2007-09-11 Thread Clifton Oliver
I, too, am not sure how thorough it is, but I do a FILE.STAT (or  
ANALYZE.FILE).



--

Regards,

Clif

On Sep 11, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Bob Woodward wrote:

I'm not sure how through it is but I've always found that just  
doing a COUNT

on a file has shown when there's a problem.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:20 AM
To: u2-Users
Subject: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

Hi all,

UV 10.1.8

What is the best way to verify the integrity of a file while users are
accessing (if possible at all)?

I see that fixtool will set an exclusive file lock when executing  
without
any options.  If I understand correctly, the -start and -stop  
options will
scan the file setting group locks.  Would it work to set -start to  
1 and
-stop to the last group in the file?  If so, how do I tell what the  
last

group of the file is?

Thanks in advance,

Scott Thompson
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RE: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

2007-09-11 Thread karlp
A count misses many types of possible corruption. If you select the file,
then do

LIST FNAME LASTATTRIBUTE

that will give you a better, though still incomplete, appraisal of a
file's integrity.

Karl


> I'm not sure how through it is but I've always found that just doing a
> COUNT
> on a file has shown when there's a problem.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:20 AM
> To: u2-Users
> Subject: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption
>
> Hi all,
>
> UV 10.1.8
>
> What is the best way to verify the integrity of a file while users are
> accessing (if possible at all)?
>
> I see that fixtool will set an exclusive file lock when executing without
> any options.  If I understand correctly, the -start and -stop options will
> scan the file setting group locks.  Would it work to set -start to 1 and
> -stop to the last group in the file?  If so, how do I tell what the last
> group of the file is?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Thompson
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RE: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Woodward
I'm not sure how through it is but I've always found that just doing a COUNT
on a file has shown when there's a problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:20 AM
To: u2-Users
Subject: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

Hi all,

UV 10.1.8

What is the best way to verify the integrity of a file while users are
accessing (if possible at all)?

I see that fixtool will set an exclusive file lock when executing without
any options.  If I understand correctly, the -start and -stop options will
scan the file setting group locks.  Would it work to set -start to 1 and
-stop to the last group in the file?  If so, how do I tell what the last
group of the file is? 

Thanks in advance,

Scott Thompson
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RE: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

2007-09-11 Thread Jerry Banker
You can try doing a uvbackup on the file to /dev/null. When the file is
backed up it checks the integrity of the file.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
To: u2-Users
Subject: [U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

Hi all,

UV 10.1.8

What is the best way to verify the integrity of a file while users are
accessing (if possible at all)?

I see that fixtool will set an exclusive file lock when executing
without any options.  If I understand correctly, the -start and -stop
options will scan the file setting group locks.  Would it work to set
-start to 1 and -stop to the last group in the file?  If so, how do I
tell what the last group of the file is? 

Thanks in advance,

Scott Thompson
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[U2] [UV] checking files for corruption

2007-09-11 Thread iggchamp
Hi all,

UV 10.1.8

What is the best way to verify the integrity of a file while users are 
accessing (if possible at all)?

I see that fixtool will set an exclusive file lock when executing without any 
options.  If I understand correctly, the -start and -stop options will scan the 
file setting group locks.  Would it work to set -start to 1 and -stop to the 
last group in the file?  If so, how do I tell what the last group of the file 
is? 

Thanks in advance,

Scott Thompson
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