Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dawn Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes They bought out most of MUMPS and seem to have enough former PIck folks there who were saying that it was a similar situation of needing to take Pick apps into a broader environment with today's expectations for 24/7 but with

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Jerry
. Jerry - Original Message - From: Dawn Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Yes. Jim no longer works for InterSystems as of February or so, but his two colleagues, John Greg, from both jBASE and Reality are still there. So, yes, it was not MUMPS developers (in general, at least) attempting to figure out what MV was all about, who write this implementation, but seasoned

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Hi Jerry -- I started responding and decided I wasn't certain about some points so I passed your question along. I will get back to you on this when I get a response. What I do know is that the file structures look the same to any application software, but different to the OS. I can also pass

RE: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Baker Hughes
Thanks, Dawn, for that thorough response. You mention the helpdesk project at IBM. Susie S. told the Spectrum gathering at Long Beach that the embedded db is UniVerse. Perhaps we're not speaking of the same project. I was also told by others this is the coming app to manage all software and

Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On 4/17/07, Baker Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Dawn, for that thorough response. You mention the helpdesk project at IBM. Susie S. told the Spectrum gathering at Long Beach that the embedded db is UniVerse. Perhaps we're not speaking of the same project. I was also told by others

Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I'll pass along this answer on both u2-users and u2-community, but please respond on community since this is not about U2, per se. Thanks. See below. --dawn On 4/17/07, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dawn, One thing I don't think you mentioned is the file structure. Tell me if I'm wrong. The

RE: Spam:Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread David Jordan
One thing to be careful with Cache is that it does not have the same transaction processing as U2. With U2 modifications made in a transaction block are not visible to other users until commit, as I have been advised in Cache those modifications are immediately visible to other users. Regards

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-17 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I'm pretty sure you are right about that, David. We had them explain transactions and it sounds like it makes complete sense to use that feature in Cache' where I have never used it in U2. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. On 4/17/07, David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing

[U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-16 Thread Baker Hughes
If you don't want to use their own 'Zen' object stuff, can you use whatever you want? C#, VB, Java ? How does it like ODBC, ADO or other methods of getting to the Cache data? We've all had our days hemmed into a proprietary environment. I hope I'm wrong for the sake of my comrades like Dawn, but

Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache

2007-04-16 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Hi Baker -- good points and questions. On 4/16/07, Baker Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't want to use their own 'Zen' object stuff, can you use whatever you want? C#, VB, Java ? Since Cache' has a development platform, like all MV systems have, there is a p-machine side (like all

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2007-04-16 Thread Nick Cipollina
-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache If you don't want to use their own 'Zen' object stuff, can you use whatever you want? C#, VB, Java ? How does it like ODBC, ADO or other methods of getting to the Cache data? We've all had our days hemmed into a proprietary environment