[U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
Harold, I just did this upgrade about a week ago.. it was super easy. I actually went from 10.1.18 to 11.1.1 and the transition was smooth but there were a couple things to note: 1) Install Universe 11.x under the 'modify' setting. 2) The file paths are diff (c:\ibm\uv vs. c:\u2\uv), so agree to have the files MOVED from one to the other (during install). [make sure permissions allow this on the folder] 3) run UPDATE.ACCOUNT (UniVerse command) in each of the UniVerse accounts, then update the VOC when it asks you to. Cost = 1 day of my time Time = 2 hours (most of the time spent was getting the UniVerse license) 11.1.1 has been perfect for me so far and I have not had 1 hiccup as a result of the upgrade. Here is a writeup done by one user: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Here was my post from the other week: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Chris Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:34:31 -0800 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
Here is the writeup from one user (who upgraded to 11.1): http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/04/u2upgrade2.html Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:03:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 Harold, I just did this upgrade about a week ago.. it was super easy. I actually went from 10.1.18 to 11.1.1 and the transition was smooth but there were a couple things to note: 1) Install Universe 11.x under the 'modify' setting. 2) The file paths are diff (c:\ibm\uv vs. c:\u2\uv), so agree to have the files MOVED from one to the other (during install). [make sure permissions allow this on the folder] 3) run UPDATE.ACCOUNT (UniVerse command) in each of the UniVerse accounts, then update the VOC when it asks you to. Cost = 1 day of my time Time = 2 hours (most of the time spent was getting the UniVerse license) 11.1.1 has been perfect for me so far and I have not had 1 hiccup as a result of the upgrade. Here is a writeup done by one user: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Here was my post from the other week: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Chris Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:34:31 -0800 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
Thanks Chris. The link you have is to a user (Tony Gravagno) updating the PE edition. My application is Universe running over hpux so it's a little different setting. I'm looking for anyone who has done 10.2 to 11.1 in that setting (or with o/s linux which would be quite similar). But I think doing the PE11 download is a nice idea and will try it. Thanks- Harold -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:05 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 Here is the writeup from one user (who upgraded to 11.1): http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/04/u2upgrade2.html Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:03:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 Harold, I just did this upgrade about a week ago.. it was super easy. I actually went from 10.1.18 to 11.1.1 and the transition was smooth but there were a couple things to note: 1) Install Universe 11.x under the 'modify' setting. 2) The file paths are diff (c:\ibm\uv vs. c:\u2\uv), so agree to have the files MOVED from one to the other (during install). [make sure permissions allow this on the folder] 3) run UPDATE.ACCOUNT (UniVerse command) in each of the UniVerse accounts, then update the VOC when it asks you to. Cost = 1 day of my time Time = 2 hours (most of the time spent was getting the UniVerse license) 11.1.1 has been perfect for me so far and I have not had 1 hiccup as a result of the upgrade. Here is a writeup done by one user: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Here was my post from the other week: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Chris Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:34:31 -0800 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
I just went from 10.3.4 on AIX 5.3, to 11.1.4 on Red Hat 6.2 Most of the pain was the operating system conversion and new hardware. The actual Universe stuff was pretty painless. We've only been live for a few days, so I have not had time to play with any new stuff. We had to rebuild our globally cataloged stuff, but, we had the source code. We had to transfer over items from UV.ACCOUNTS file. We had to upgrade all the VOC's, but, they have command line utility that you can write a BASIC program to do that if you want. -The utility is called = /usr/uv/bin/updaccount -Someone on the list had a utility to run this in every account. -I think all you need to do is, loop through the UV.ACCOUNTS file and run this command on every account Oh yes, and then if you have a file called 'ORDER' (I mean, who would write a business application with a file called ORDER!!!- note the sarcasm), then you have to put those file pointers back, because the upgrade utility will wipe them out. Just look in TEMP of the account and you will find the VOC items replaced by the upgrade utility. Oh yeah and then we have to run format.conv on every file and object code to bit swap them from AIX to Linux, but, again, if you aren't changing OS's, you don't need to worry about that. Again, another BASIC program to write. Thats all I can remember, as I haven't slept much in the past week... On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Chris Austin cjausti...@hotmail.com wrote: Here is the writeup from one user (who upgraded to 11.1): http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/04/u2upgrade2.html Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:03:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 Harold, I just did this upgrade about a week ago.. it was super easy. I actually went from 10.1.18 to 11.1.1 and the transition was smooth but there were a couple things to note: 1) Install Universe 11.x under the 'modify' setting. 2) The file paths are diff (c:\ibm\uv vs. c:\u2\uv), so agree to have the files MOVED from one to the other (during install). [make sure permissions allow this on the folder] 3) run UPDATE.ACCOUNT (UniVerse command) in each of the UniVerse accounts, then update the VOC when it asks you to. Cost = 1 day of my time Time = 2 hours (most of the time spent was getting the UniVerse license) 11.1.1 has been perfect for me so far and I have not had 1 hiccup as a result of the upgrade. Here is a writeup done by one user: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Here was my post from the other week: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Chris Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:34:31 -0800 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
Oh yes and do yourself a favor and create yourself a symlink: /usr/ibm/uv to /usr/uv That way you can avoid any nuisances with Rocket changing the path name on you. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:21 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote: I just went from 10.3.4 on AIX 5.3, to 11.1.4 on Red Hat 6.2 Most of the pain was the operating system conversion and new hardware. The actual Universe stuff was pretty painless. We've only been live for a few days, so I have not had time to play with any new stuff. We had to rebuild our globally cataloged stuff, but, we had the source code. We had to transfer over items from UV.ACCOUNTS file. We had to upgrade all the VOC's, but, they have command line utility that you can write a BASIC program to do that if you want. -The utility is called = /usr/uv/bin/updaccount -Someone on the list had a utility to run this in every account. -I think all you need to do is, loop through the UV.ACCOUNTS file and run this command on every account Oh yes, and then if you have a file called 'ORDER' (I mean, who would write a business application with a file called ORDER!!!- note the sarcasm), then you have to put those file pointers back, because the upgrade utility will wipe them out. Just look in TEMP of the account and you will find the VOC items replaced by the upgrade utility. Oh yeah and then we have to run format.conv on every file and object code to bit swap them from AIX to Linux, but, again, if you aren't changing OS's, you don't need to worry about that. Again, another BASIC program to write. Thats all I can remember, as I haven't slept much in the past week... On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Chris Austin cjausti...@hotmail.comwrote: Here is the writeup from one user (who upgraded to 11.1): http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/04/u2upgrade2.html Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:03:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 Harold, I just did this upgrade about a week ago.. it was super easy. I actually went from 10.1.18 to 11.1.1 and the transition was smooth but there were a couple things to note: 1) Install Universe 11.x under the 'modify' setting. 2) The file paths are diff (c:\ibm\uv vs. c:\u2\uv), so agree to have the files MOVED from one to the other (during install). [make sure permissions allow this on the folder] 3) run UPDATE.ACCOUNT (UniVerse command) in each of the UniVerse accounts, then update the VOC when it asks you to. Cost = 1 day of my time Time = 2 hours (most of the time spent was getting the UniVerse license) 11.1.1 has been perfect for me so far and I have not had 1 hiccup as a result of the upgrade. Here is a writeup done by one user: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Here was my post from the other week: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Chris Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:34:31 -0800 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
Thanks - well written! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:21 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 I just went from 10.3.4 on AIX 5.3, to 11.1.4 on Red Hat 6.2 Most of the pain was the operating system conversion and new hardware. The actual Universe stuff was pretty painless. We've only been live for a few days, so I have not had time to play with any new stuff. We had to rebuild our globally cataloged stuff, but, we had the source code. We had to transfer over items from UV.ACCOUNTS file. We had to upgrade all the VOC's, but, they have command line utility that you can write a BASIC program to do that if you want. -The utility is called = /usr/uv/bin/updaccount -Someone on the list had a utility to run this in every account. -I think all you need to do is, loop through the UV.ACCOUNTS file and run this command on every account Oh yes, and then if you have a file called 'ORDER' (I mean, who would write a business application with a file called ORDER!!!- note the sarcasm), then you have to put those file pointers back, because the upgrade utility will wipe them out. Just look in TEMP of the account and you will find the VOC items replaced by the upgrade utility. Oh yeah and then we have to run format.conv on every file and object code to bit swap them from AIX to Linux, but, again, if you aren't changing OS's, you don't need to worry about that. Again, another BASIC program to write. Thats all I can remember, as I haven't slept much in the past week... On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Chris Austin cjausti...@hotmail.com wrote: Here is the writeup from one user (who upgraded to 11.1): http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/04/u2upgrade2.html Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:03:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 Harold, I just did this upgrade about a week ago.. it was super easy. I actually went from 10.1.18 to 11.1.1 and the transition was smooth but there were a couple things to note: 1) Install Universe 11.x under the 'modify' setting. 2) The file paths are diff (c:\ibm\uv vs. c:\u2\uv), so agree to have the files MOVED from one to the other (during install). [make sure permissions allow this on the folder] 3) run UPDATE.ACCOUNT (UniVerse command) in each of the UniVerse accounts, then update the VOC when it asks you to. Cost = 1 day of my time Time = 2 hours (most of the time spent was getting the UniVerse license) 11.1.1 has been perfect for me so far and I have not had 1 hiccup as a result of the upgrade. Here is a writeup done by one user: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Here was my post from the other week: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/65456 Chris Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:34:31 -0800 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1 All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject
Re: [U2] Universe 10.2 to 11.1
Some time ago we upgraded our development server to 11.1.1 (hpux) and ran into a couple of bugs involving indexes. Our development server is currently on 11.1.3 with those bugs completely wiped out. We haven't yet been able (schedule-wise, etc.) to get our production server updated, so it is still running 10.3.2. Our sys admin isn't here at the moment, but didn't report any extra difficulties or delays compared to any previous upgrades. Best Regards, Richard Lewis On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote: All: Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to 11.1? Difficult or not? Costs? Time? More generally, I'm addressing anyone using Universe 11.1 coming from any other place. On their website, Rocket states: UniVerse V11.1 adds powerful high availability, interoperability, administration and security capabilities to the solid extended relational database. EDA (Extended Data Architecture) sounds quite interesting (this is under interoperability): External Database Access (EDA) External database access (EDA) provides the flexibility to store some or all of your data in either UniVerse files or an external database such as Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle and IBM DB2. EDA provides the ability to transparently access and update data from an existing UniVerse application. Graphical tools ease schema mapping and configuration management. Has 11.1 been a happy choice for you? Thanks for any advice and opinions- Harold Oaks Clark County This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
