RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Bill H.
nt: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:11 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ > Series] {Unclassified} [snipped] > RedBack does more than provide a pooling mechanism it also > handles scheduling, performance monitoring, status a

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Craig Bennett
es UniVerse through the WebShare and consumes the licenses appropriately. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Lic

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Andy Pflueger
> UniVerse through the WebShare and consumes the licenses appropriately. > > Regards > David Jordan > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. > Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM > To: u2-us

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread David Jordan
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} Craig: Your right. I think you can get a webshare site license for $15,000 - $20,000.

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Bill H.
Bill > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Bennett > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:00 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ > Series] {Unclassified} >

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-25 Thread David Jordan
Craig Bennett Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:00 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} Bill, > If I figure correctly, a hundred webshares cost $150,000 at $1,500 per > webshare retail! my understanding is tha

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-25 Thread Craig Bennett
Bill, If I figure correctly, a hundred webshares cost $150,000 at $1,500 per webshare retail! my understanding is that each webshare can service 20-25 users and once you buy a certain number of webshares (my memory says 11, but I could be wrong) you are treated as having an unlimited number of sh

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-25 Thread Aherne, John
ain factor, then MySQL, Ingres, or Postgre are all reliable open source db's. JohnA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Key Ally Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licens

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-23 Thread David Jordan
Pricing is not quite as simple as a straight license cost comparison for SQL Server. 1. People need to check the full implications of licensing costs. 2. Whilst SQL Server may have a per process license, can SQL Server support as many users on a processor as UniVerse. - Most RD

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Key Ally
SQL Server fans, To be fair, UniVerse and UniData aren't just Datastores, they are environments. SQL Server is a starting point. So, if you want to buy SQL server, and buy or freeware a programing language, and buy or freeware a scripting language, and buy or freeware an editor, etc... then

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Dave S
What is the definition of a webshare ? Cliff Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Millions (plural) of DB requests per day will require serious infrastructure regardless of middleware platform. Plus there's always the last-day-of-quarter discount with IBM. 8-) With SQL Server, you also need one o

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Bill H.
Cliff: > With SQL Server, you also need one or two CAL's (Client > Access Licenses) per named user (not concurrent). Plus I > believe the more full-featured server versions are more > expensive on the server side. A quick look on Google and you'll find an SQL Server Enterprise for $2,000 - $5

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Bill H.
If I figure correctly, a hundred webshares cost $150,000 at $1,500 per webshare retail! Let's see...SQL Server unlimited site license (single CPU) for $5,000. Sounds like this is an invitation to get off the U2 products...or do I have this completely miscalculated? Bill > -Original Message--

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Cliff Bennett
Millions (plural) of DB requests per day will require serious infrastructure regardless of middleware platform. Plus there's always the last-day-of-quarter discount with IBM. 8-) With SQL Server, you also need one or two CAL's (Client Access Licenses) per named user (not concurrent). Plus I

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Josh Volosov (3)
Hi, I will be out of the office on Monday April 25th. I will not have access to e-mail or voice mail. If a you need an immediate response to your e-mail please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or you can call Frank at extension 467. Thanks and have a great day! Josh --- u2-users mailing list u2-u

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Key Ally
Ken, Once the UniObjects connection pooling is in, the problem goes away. It sounds like: (1) IBM sees a licensing problem, (2) IBM offers a stopgap via RedBack, (3) IBM offers a proper solution as soon as is feasible... Granted, I can be objective, since all my situations are compliant unde

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Ken Wallis
Leroy Dreyfuss wrote: > Mike Henderson wrote: > >And what is the "equivalent number of U2 licenses " that I > would need to buy? > >If I had an internet-facing U2 system for example - which I > don't - how > >could I work out this number? In theory it could be millions of > >prospective users, an

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-21 Thread Leroy Dreyfuss
>Aha! >And what is the "equivalent number of U2 licenses " that I would need to >buy? >If I had an internet-facing U2 system for example - which I don't - how >could I work out this number? In theory it could be millions of >prospective users, and while I'm sure IBM would love to sell me a >millio

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-21 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
LeRoy, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Leroy Dreyfuss > Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 14:10 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] [snip] > violating your U2 license a