RE: We need a web based Forum!
Kevin (u2ug Board Member) posted this on the u2ug web site: When I do read u2-users it is though gmane.org (http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/), so I know that there are a number of different ways to skin each cat. The reason I use Gmane is that I don't have time each day to wade through th daily postings, Gmane allows me to see the history or a thread (as well as view each topic in a thread) and allows me to choose when I read the list. I also subscribe to the digest, but due to the in-ability of some listers to trim I find it tough to use. Those are the reasons that I am fan of forums, but I support the board and will do what I am told! :) I'll take a look at the m2f stuff and see if it will work. I do see on their forums that there are people who have made it work with pnPHPbb (which is what we use) but it is clear that we are talking about beta software at best. If it does seem that the stuff will work it would still require a re-think of the current list, and so I wouldn't be able to offer it for u2-users until the board was convinced that it would work best for the majority, or that it wouldn't somehow weaken the current list. The gmane.org link above I can certainly recommend having just had a look! no more wading through the digest for me anymore and I can check it any time of the day when I want to. A couple of other posts recommend I look at the feasibility of the m2f stuff, however obviously it is really up to the u2ug Board who will be taking over the list, what technology they want to use etc. I would certainly be willing to help out in any way if they want to follow this up. James Sungard -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: We need a web based Forum!
Seems to me a system where *email (the list) carries on as usual *All emailed responses are submitted as forum responses *All forum responses are whooshed out to the list as email I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never seen such an animal in action myself. I think it's mythical. Will I have certainly been involved in usenet newsgroups that are linked in this way. I gave an example in previous emails. It has been developed for forums too, as per my email below, which no one to date has commented on. Admittedly it is currently in beta, but the forum system it is available on phpBB is very widely used and respected. E.g. the MQseries forum, that I use all the time - http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/index.php uses phpBB. So will the U2 user group, like to look at this solution? This would give us both a web and mail list presence and would make ALL of us happy. It will also show that this community is happy to embrace new technology when it gives benefits (explained below). James Hogan Sungard -Original Message- From: Hogan, James Sent: 22 April 2004 09:38 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! I think I have found the holy grail! http://m2f.sourceforge.net/ Mail 2 Forum joins two separate worlds of internet based communication together. Until now, the phpBB web based bulletin board or forum systems existed completely separately and isolated from existing email based mailing list or list serve systems. Each system operated independently. Separately, each system has its own advantages and disadvantages. Electronic mailing lists are very simple and convenient for the end user, no harder than using the email he or she already uses. The disadvantage is there is little history or organization of past discussions. Emails tend to get lost in time and an email's content is only available to the original recipients. While some lists servers have the ability to keep a history or archive the email messages, the archiving is usually non-intelligent and non-categorized leaving the user with a mess of unorganized messages. Additionally, archiving is only uni-directional, meaning you may only go back and view the archives. At the same time web based forums like phpBB are very well suited for organized bi-directional discussion. Users may view or contribute to a subject by posting to a new or existing thread of information in any category now or in the future. Unfortunately, this requires the user to use the web based interface, for some this may be less convenient than email. Although, web based forums and email list serves both have the common purpose of communication, each system achieves this very differently. The purpose of Mail 2 Forum is to overlap the functionality of both forum systems and mailing list systems. Mail 2 Forum gives the user the best of both worlds. The initial release of Mail 2 Forum will include the following features... Integrates with phpBB (bulletin board/forum software) Allows posting to a phpBB forum via an email. Allows a copy of a phpBB forum messages to be delivered via email. Bidirectional communication is intelligently routed to or from appropriate forum/thread based on content. Users may subscribe/unsubscribe to mailing lists via the phpBB interface or via email. May be managed via the phpBB interface. May be used as a new mailing list server/manager May be used as mailing list manager with an existing mailing list server (like listserv or majordomo) Can synchronize with multiple email systems (sendmail, .forward, read files, read IMAP and POP3) Simple to use and administer. Secure and Anti spam features (uses phpbb security features) Open source code under GNU/GPL license. James Hogan -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: We need a web based Forum!
Sorry it has been a day before I reply, however getting the digest version delays my response somewhat. I take my hat of to people who deal with the deluge of individual emails each day! Will said: But if this works like boards.ancestry.com or www.genforum.com then if you post via the email, your posting does not show up integrated into the boards. So some information is lost unless we have also an archival engine that saves all emails, integrating them into archived forum posts to re-form the consistent thread I think there are better solutions out there. For example searching the web (having web access allows staff to find solutions for your company!) I was able to find this http://phorum.org/ - Phorum is a web based message board written in PHP. Phorum is designed with high-availability and visitor ease of use in mind. Features such as mailing list integration, easy customization and simple installation make Phorum a powerful add-in to any website. It is also very common for newgroups to have mail integration e.g. http://gaffa.org/faq/faq_1_2.html Keith upton said: How about company/department policy? And why can't I do my job properly without having access to the web? How do you access the IBM Online features such as the Knowlege base, Availability index, online call management etc. etc. How do you keep up to date with the latest technology. Find information patches for your OS/ Software / Hardware. The list goes on. I really can not see how I could do my development job without this essential tool. Company /department policy can be changed, if you can show that the company gets benefits, such as fixes found quicker / questions answered quicker. No one is saying every person in the company needs web access. Maybe one web access terminal is shared by a number of people. This avoids the complaint that people are surfing the net not working. Talking of working James Hogan Sungard -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
We need a web based Forum!
Trying to follow a thread in the digest today I had to wade through pointless re-inclusions of previous posts where people had just hit the reply-to option without doing any editing. We have been here before I know. But a forum would sort all this. It is user friendly and you are able to follow just the threads you want to. You can also easily pick up a thread and follow it's history. The main argument against the forum is that some of you out their can not access the web. How can anyone in a development role do their job properly nowadays without being able to access the web. I am sure that if all we had was a forum on the web, admin departments would be told that X needs web access and they would get it. James Hogan Sungard -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Unidata, Monitoring system parameters
From time to time we have customers who break a Unidata parameter and the program they are running will crash with errors such as No more entries in MI table in 'LCT -n'. In this instance the SHM_LMINENTS parameter will need increasing (on AIX you may have to increase SHM_GNPAGESZ instead!). Very likely the program being run will be large and critical to the user's business. I have had a look at the commands sms, gstt and lstt. With some clever scripting these could be used to take snap shots of the system periodically to check for an over step of the parameters. The script could then warn the user if any parameter is over 80% utilised. So has anyone done this already ? Regards James Hogan Sungard -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
