RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS
Thanks for the feedback everyone. What we've tried so far is deleting and recreating user accounts - that didn't work. Just by chance, we recreated a user account that used to exist at one time and had admin rights - but we didn't place it in the administrators group this time - just Domain users and UVUsers (the group we setup with rights to logon locally) and low and behold we can login to Universe with that account. So, the only pattern we can see is that we can only login to Universe with any user account in the administrators group that happened to exist before the machine was upgraded to Windows 2003 SBS. No amount of tinkering around with any other user accounts or creating new accounts gets allows us to establish a telnet connection. Very bizarre. A little history - the server was running Win NT4, then Win2k Server was installed as an upgrade, followed by Win 2003 SBS. We checked all the file permissions, etc on all Universe folders /bin, etc and all the Universe database paths and they where and always have been wide open - full permissions to 'everyone'. joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Walter Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS Having a strange problem at a client site. There sysadmins upgraded the server running Universe from NT4 to Windows 2003 Small Business Server. Everything seemed OK, until regular domain users tried to login to universe. It seems to accept username/password but then telnet session terminates immediately afterward. Only two users can log in. Both of these users where members of the administrators group. All other users where members of Domain Users and a special group called UVUsers which we setup and granted the right to 'logon locally'. We checked to ensure the group UVUsers had right to logon locally - it did. We then removed and recreated the group UVUsers and gave it rights to logon locally - that still didn't work. Now here is the really bizarre thing. EVEN if we add any of the regular users to the administrators group - THEY STILL CAN'T LOGIN TO UNIVERSE. Only those two users that happened to be members of the administrators group when the server was upgraded are able to login. I'm stumped. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, joe Joe Walter Fax/Voice mail: 1.435.514.5132 http://jaw1.home.mindspring.com Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS
Joe, We have seen similar problems in the past when NT user setups were copied over. We had to re-enter the users on Windows to get them to work. You might try setting up a new user in the user group and see if you can log in. If that works, you probably will need to set up the users from scratch. HTH, Mike Dallaire Mortgage Builder Software Inc. (248) 208-3223 ext. 103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mortgagebuilder.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Walter Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS Having a strange problem at a client site. There sysadmins upgraded the server running Universe from NT4 to Windows 2003 Small Business Server. Everything seemed OK, until regular domain users tried to login to universe. It seems to accept username/password but then telnet session terminates immediately afterward. Only two users can log in. Both of these users where members of the administrators group. All other users where members of Domain Users and a special group called UVUsers which we setup and granted the right to 'logon locally'. We checked to ensure the group UVUsers had right to logon locally - it did. We then removed and recreated the group UVUsers and gave it rights to logon locally - that still didn't work. Now here is the really bizarre thing. EVEN if we add any of the regular users to the administrators group - THEY STILL CAN'T LOGIN TO UNIVERSE. Only those two users that happened to be members of the administrators group when the server was upgraded are able to login. I'm stumped. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, joe Joe Walter Fax/Voice mail: 1.435.514.5132 http://jaw1.home.mindspring.com Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS
Here are the notes that I have been using (for UD): Open AD Users and Computers. Create a Global group Add members to group accordingly, then assign directory rights accordingly. Click Start - Programs - Administrative Tools and click Domain Controller Security Policy. Double click the Security Settings folder, double click Local Policies, and then click User Rights Assignment. Under the Policy column, click Logon Locally, and then click Add. Click Browse, select the appropriate group, then click Add. Click Ok, click Ok, click Ok. Open a command prompt and type the following command: secedit /refreshpolicy machine_policy /enforce Press Enter twice. I also have a PDF document from IBM which indicates to update the local security policy and then the domain security policy and add log on locally and access this computer from the network rights. I think the secedit /refreshpolicy may be the key as I believe it can sometimes take some time for your changes to take effect. hth -- Colin Alfke Calgary, Alberta Canada Just because something isn't broken doesn't mean that you can't fix it Stu Pickles -Original Message- From: Joe Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS Having a strange problem at a client site. There sysadmins upgraded the server running Universe from NT4 to Windows 2003 Small Business Server. Everything seemed OK, until regular domain users tried to login to universe. It seems to accept username/password but then telnet session terminates immediately afterward. Only two users can log in. Both of these users where members of the administrators group. All other users where members of Domain Users and a special group called UVUsers which we setup and granted the right to 'logon locally'. We checked to ensure the group UVUsers had right to logon locally - it did. We then removed and recreated the group UVUsers and gave it rights to logon locally - that still didn't work. Now here is the really bizarre thing. EVEN if we add any of the regular users to the administrators group - THEY STILL CAN'T LOGIN TO UNIVERSE. Only those two users that happened to be members of the administrators group when the server was upgraded are able to login. I'm stumped. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, joe Joe Walter Fax/Voice mail: 1.435.514.5132 http://jaw1.home.mindspring.com Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS
FYI, MS has changed the secedit command in 2003. To force a policy refresh, the command is gpupdate. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standard/p roddocs/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windowsserv/2003/stan dard/proddocs/en-us/RefrGP.asp Regards, Timothy Harkin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS Here are the notes that I have been using (for UD): Open AD Users and Computers. Create a Global group Add members to group accordingly, then assign directory rights accordingly. Click Start - Programs - Administrative Tools and click Domain Controller Security Policy. Double click the Security Settings folder, double click Local Policies, and then click User Rights Assignment. Under the Policy column, click Logon Locally, and then click Add. Click Browse, select the appropriate group, then click Add. Click Ok, click Ok, click Ok. Open a command prompt and type the following command: secedit /refreshpolicy machine_policy /enforce Press Enter twice. I also have a PDF document from IBM which indicates to update the local security policy and then the domain security policy and add log on locally and access this computer from the network rights. I think the secedit /refreshpolicy may be the key as I believe it can sometimes take some time for your changes to take effect. hth -- Colin Alfke Calgary, Alberta Canada Just because something isn't broken doesn't mean that you can't fix it Stu Pickles -Original Message- From: Joe Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS Having a strange problem at a client site. There sysadmins upgraded the server running Universe from NT4 to Windows 2003 Small Business Server. Everything seemed OK, until regular domain users tried to login to universe. It seems to accept username/password but then telnet session terminates immediately afterward. Only two users can log in. Both of these users where members of the administrators group. All other users where members of Domain Users and a special group called UVUsers which we setup and granted the right to 'logon locally'. We checked to ensure the group UVUsers had right to logon locally - it did. We then removed and recreated the group UVUsers and gave it rights to logon locally - that still didn't work. Now here is the really bizarre thing. EVEN if we add any of the regular users to the administrators group - THEY STILL CAN'T LOGIN TO UNIVERSE. Only those two users that happened to be members of the administrators group when the server was upgraded are able to login. I'm stumped. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, joe Joe Walter Fax/Voice mail: 1.435.514.5132 http://jaw1.home.mindspring.com Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS
Goo'day, IIRC, isn't there a problem with telnet on Micro$oft SBS that gets in the way of what UniVerse expects of telnet? Can't give you a deinitive fix, other than we were informed yonks ago *not* to use SBS with UniVerse At 02:30 20/04/04, you wrote: Having a strange problem at a client site. There sysadmins upgraded the server running Universe from NT4 to Windows 2003 Small Business Server. Everything seemed OK, until regular domain users tried to login to universe. It seems to accept username/password but then telnet session terminates immediately afterward. Only two users can log in. Both of these users where members of the administrators group. All other users where members of Domain Users and a special group called UVUsers which we setup and granted the right to 'logon locally'. We checked to ensure the group UVUsers had right to logon locally - it did. We then removed and recreated the group UVUsers and gave it rights to logon locally - that still didn't work. Now here is the really bizarre thing. EVEN if we add any of the regular users to the administrators group - THEY STILL CAN'T LOGIN TO UNIVERSE. Only those two users that happened to be members of the administrators group when the server was upgraded are able to login. I'm stumped. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, joe Joe Walter Fax/Voice mail: 1.435.514.5132 http://jaw1.home.mindspring.com Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.8.3 - Release Date: 15/04/04 Regards, Bruce Nichol Talon Computer Services ALBURYNSW 2640 Australia Tel: +61 (0)411149636 Fax: +61 (0)260232119 If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.9.0 - Release Date: 19/04/04 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
