RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian Matthews
If the users were running multiple VB sessions then it might worth
looking at device (enterprise) licensing but as Universe doesn't allow
the pool of ten connections per license to be shared amongst processes
(ie telnet programs) it probably won't work for you.

At the end of the day if you're planning on running 100 users then you
should have a 100 user license. After all why should an objects license
be any cheaper as you have access to the full functionality of universe?

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Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50 user
licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20 using
a VB6.0 program to enter data. 

We are having problems where the session drops because users are not
logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we still
get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit
the maximum licences.

I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only in
earlier versions. 

Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want to
increase this to 100 users.

Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

Many thanks 
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread David Jordan
UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the access to
the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent users can
access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20 VB6 user
then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login would be
denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more universe
licenses.

Regards

David Jordan

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Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50 user
licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20 using
a VB6.0 program to enter data. 

We are having problems where the session drops because users are not
logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we still
get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit
the maximum licences.

I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only in
earlier versions. 

Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want to
increase this to 100 users.

Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

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Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Ian Renfrew
If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need 40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew
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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the access 
to
the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent users 
can
access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20 VB6 
user
then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login would 
be
denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more universe
licenses.

Regards
David Jordan
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Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence
We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50 user
licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20 using
a VB6.0 program to enter data.
We are having problems where the session drops because users are not
logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we still
get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit
the maximum licences.
I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only in
earlier versions.
Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want to
increase this to 100 users.
Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian Matthews
Unfortunately the Universe device licensing doesn't work like that. Not
sure about Unidata but the question related to Universe.

The 10 connection pool cannot be shared between the terminal emulator
and uniobjects.

I asked (via my VAR) if IBM had any plans to allow that and apparently
they don't.

Even more annoyingly the new licensing model doesn't allow Phantoms to
use the device license pool.

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Sent: 04 March 2005 13:31
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Subject: Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need
40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


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From: David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


 UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the
access 
 to
 the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent
users 
 can
 access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20
VB6 
 user
 then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login
would 
 be
 denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more
universe
 licenses.

 Regards

 David Jordan

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Friday, 4 March 2005 10:47 PM
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 Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

 We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50
user
 licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20
using
 a VB6.0 program to enter data.

 We are having problems where the session drops because users are not
 logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we
still
 get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit
 the maximum licences.

 I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only
in
 earlier versions.

 Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want
to
 increase this to 100 users.

 Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

 Many thanks
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Sunny Matharoo
Device Licensing does work and if you have the Enterprise Edition of UV
then it works very well.

We have a VB app as well as wIntegrate including Dynamic Connect and
Viaduct that quite happliy share the 10 connection pool.

This is in UV 10.1.4  and AIX 5

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Sent: 04 March 2005 14:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


Unfortunately the Universe device licensing doesn't work like that. Not
sure about Unidata but the question related to Universe.

The 10 connection pool cannot be shared between the terminal emulator
and uniobjects.

I asked (via my VAR) if IBM had any plans to allow that and apparently
they don't.

Even more annoyingly the new licensing model doesn't allow Phantoms to
use the device license pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Renfrew
Sent: 04 March 2005 13:31
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need
40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


- Original Message - 
From: David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


 UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the
access 
 to
 the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent
users 
 can
 access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20
VB6 
 user
 then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login
would 
 be
 denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more
universe
 licenses.

 Regards

 David Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 4 March 2005 10:47 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

 We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50
user
 licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20
using
 a VB6.0 program to enter data.

 We are having problems where the session drops because users are not 
 logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we
still
 get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit 
 the maximum licences.

 I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only
in
 earlier versions.

 Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want
to
 increase this to 100 users.

 Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

 Many thanks
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Jose Luis Gutierrez de la Peza
As I undersand, one connexion of uvObjects consumes one uniVerse licence,
then you couldn't buy licence for uvObjects only, and this is because since
uniVerse version 9 the uvObjects are bounded with the licence for the
same number of users than the UniVerse Licence.

Cheers


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Asunto: [U2] Universe objects licence

We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50 user
licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20 using
a VB6.0 program to enter data. 

We are having problems where the session drops because users are not
logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we still
get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit
the maximum licences.

I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only in
earlier versions. 

Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want to
increase this to 100 users.

Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian Matthews
Maybe it's just the Windows version that doesn't work like that then.

IBM support themselves confirmed to me that the scenario you state
doesn't work and we can see it on out servers. 

We have several running enterprise licenses that can handle 10
connections from wIntegrate but without access to the device key the
UniObjects sessions can't use the same pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunny Matharoo
Sent: 04 March 2005 15:01
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Device Licensing does work and if you have the Enterprise Edition of UV
then it works very well.

We have a VB app as well as wIntegrate including Dynamic Connect and
Viaduct that quite happliy share the 10 connection pool.

This is in UV 10.1.4  and AIX 5

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: 04 March 2005 14:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


Unfortunately the Universe device licensing doesn't work like that. Not
sure about Unidata but the question related to Universe.

The 10 connection pool cannot be shared between the terminal emulator
and uniobjects.

I asked (via my VAR) if IBM had any plans to allow that and apparently
they don't.

Even more annoyingly the new licensing model doesn't allow Phantoms to
use the device license pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Renfrew
Sent: 04 March 2005 13:31
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need
40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


- Original Message - 
From: David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


 UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the
access 
 to
 the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent
users 
 can
 access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20
VB6 
 user
 then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login
would 
 be
 denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more
universe
 licenses.

 Regards

 David Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 4 March 2005 10:47 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

 We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50
user
 licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20
using
 a VB6.0 program to enter data.

 We are having problems where the session drops because users are not 
 logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we
still
 get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit 
 the maximum licences.

 I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only
in
 earlier versions.

 Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want
to
 increase this to 100 users.

 Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

 Many thanks
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread David Jordan
That is a bug, IBM sold it on the basic that you can run 10 sessions on any
combination of ODBC, OLE-DB, Telnet, UniObjects.

I have it working on Windows.

What version of Wintegrate are you running, if it is to early it may not
handle device licensing.  

Regards

David Jordan

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Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 2:59 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Maybe it's just the Windows version that doesn't work like that then.

IBM support themselves confirmed to me that the scenario you state
doesn't work and we can see it on out servers. 

We have several running enterprise licenses that can handle 10
connections from wIntegrate but without access to the device key the
UniObjects sessions can't use the same pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunny Matharoo
Sent: 04 March 2005 15:01
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Device Licensing does work and if you have the Enterprise Edition of UV
then it works very well.

We have a VB app as well as wIntegrate including Dynamic Connect and
Viaduct that quite happliy share the 10 connection pool.

This is in UV 10.1.4  and AIX 5

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: 04 March 2005 14:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


Unfortunately the Universe device licensing doesn't work like that. Not
sure about Unidata but the question related to Universe.

The 10 connection pool cannot be shared between the terminal emulator
and uniobjects.

I asked (via my VAR) if IBM had any plans to allow that and apparently
they don't.

Even more annoyingly the new licensing model doesn't allow Phantoms to
use the device license pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Renfrew
Sent: 04 March 2005 13:31
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need
40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


- Original Message - 
From: David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


 UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the
access 
 to
 the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent
users 
 can
 access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20
VB6 
 user
 then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login
would 
 be
 denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more
universe
 licenses.

 Regards

 David Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 4 March 2005 10:47 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

 We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50
user
 licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20
using
 a VB6.0 program to enter data.

 We are having problems where the session drops because users are not 
 logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we
still
 get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit 
 the maximum licences.

 I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only
in
 earlier versions.

 Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want
to
 increase this to 100 users.

 Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

 Many thanks
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian Matthews
We run Wintegrate 5.2 which fully supports device licensing.

What I wanted to do was to run 5 sessions with wintegrate and 5 sessions
with uniobjects and only take 1 license.

IBM said that this will not work and they have no intention of making it
work. The problem is that you need to know the subkey that wintegrate is
using to pass over with the uniobjects call apparently.

Are you sure it's working on your setup? It looks like it does on ours
until you do a cross comparison of the user count against uvlictool.

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Sent: 04 March 2005 20:45
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

That is a bug, IBM sold it on the basic that you can run 10 sessions on
any
combination of ODBC, OLE-DB, Telnet, UniObjects.

I have it working on Windows.

What version of Wintegrate are you running, if it is to early it may not
handle device licensing.  

Regards

David Jordan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 2:59 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Maybe it's just the Windows version that doesn't work like that then.

IBM support themselves confirmed to me that the scenario you state
doesn't work and we can see it on out servers. 

We have several running enterprise licenses that can handle 10
connections from wIntegrate but without access to the device key the
UniObjects sessions can't use the same pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunny Matharoo
Sent: 04 March 2005 15:01
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Device Licensing does work and if you have the Enterprise Edition of UV
then it works very well.

We have a VB app as well as wIntegrate including Dynamic Connect and
Viaduct that quite happliy share the 10 connection pool.

This is in UV 10.1.4  and AIX 5

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: 04 March 2005 14:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


Unfortunately the Universe device licensing doesn't work like that. Not
sure about Unidata but the question related to Universe.

The 10 connection pool cannot be shared between the terminal emulator
and uniobjects.

I asked (via my VAR) if IBM had any plans to allow that and apparently
they don't.

Even more annoyingly the new licensing model doesn't allow Phantoms to
use the device license pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Renfrew
Sent: 04 March 2005 13:31
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need
40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


- Original Message - 
From: David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


 UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the
access 
 to
 the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent
users 
 can
 access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20
VB6 
 user
 then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login
would 
 be
 denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more
universe
 licenses.

 Regards

 David Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 4 March 2005 10:47 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

 We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50
user
 licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20
using
 a VB6.0 program to enter data.

 We are having problems where the session drops because users are not 
 logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we
still
 get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit 
 the maximum licences.

 I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only
in
 earlier versions.

 Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want
to
 increase this to 100 users.

 Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

 Many thanks
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RE: [U2] Universe objects licence (LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Comment)

2005-03-04 Thread David Jordan
LeRoy can you comment on this.  Why pay more for Enterprise licensing if it
doesn't work properly?

Regards

David Jordan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 8:30 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

We run Wintegrate 5.2 which fully supports device licensing.

What I wanted to do was to run 5 sessions with wintegrate and 5 sessions
with uniobjects and only take 1 license.

IBM said that this will not work and they have no intention of making it
work. The problem is that you need to know the subkey that wintegrate is
using to pass over with the uniobjects call apparently.

Are you sure it's working on your setup? It looks like it does on ours
until you do a cross comparison of the user count against uvlictool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Jordan
Sent: 04 March 2005 20:45
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

That is a bug, IBM sold it on the basic that you can run 10 sessions on
any
combination of ODBC, OLE-DB, Telnet, UniObjects.

I have it working on Windows.

What version of Wintegrate are you running, if it is to early it may not
handle device licensing.  

Regards

David Jordan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 2:59 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Maybe it's just the Windows version that doesn't work like that then.

IBM support themselves confirmed to me that the scenario you state
doesn't work and we can see it on out servers. 

We have several running enterprise licenses that can handle 10
connections from wIntegrate but without access to the device key the
UniObjects sessions can't use the same pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunny Matharoo
Sent: 04 March 2005 15:01
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence

Device Licensing does work and if you have the Enterprise Edition of UV
then it works very well.

We have a VB app as well as wIntegrate including Dynamic Connect and
Viaduct that quite happliy share the 10 connection pool.

This is in UV 10.1.4  and AIX 5

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Matthews
Sent: 04 March 2005 14:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


Unfortunately the Universe device licensing doesn't work like that. Not
sure about Unidata but the question related to Universe.

The 10 connection pool cannot be shared between the terminal emulator
and uniobjects.

I asked (via my VAR) if IBM had any plans to allow that and apparently
they don't.

Even more annoyingly the new licensing model doesn't allow Phantoms to
use the device license pool.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Renfrew
Sent: 04 March 2005 13:31
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Universe objects licence

If the VB6 users are also Telnet users that utilize Dynamic Connect, 
wIntegrate or AccuTerm with device licensing, then you should only need
40 
UniData device licenses.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


- Original Message - 
From: David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe objects licence


 UniObjects does not have licenses, the licenses are related to the
access 
 to
 the UniVerse database.  With a 50 user license only 50 concurrent
users 
 can
 access the database at a time.   If you have 40 telnet users and 20
VB6 
 user
 then you need 60 concurrent licenses and the last 10 users to login
would 
 be
 denied access.   The solution might be just to purchase 10 more
universe
 licenses.

 Regards

 David Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 4 March 2005 10:47 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Universe objects licence

 We have Universe 10.0.10 running on a Windows 2000 server with a 50
user
 licence. We have about 40 users using telnet sessions and about 20
using
 a VB6.0 program to enter data.

 We are having problems where the session drops because users are not 
 logging out of the VB program, I have increased the NETTIME but we
still
 get the odd session dropping and then users cant login as we have hit 
 the maximum licences.

 I thought there was no limit in the objects licence, or was this only
in
 earlier versions.

 Can someone tell me if I can buy a licence just for objects as I want
to
 increase this to 100 users.

 Has anyone resolved similar problems with this.

 Many thanks
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