Re: [U2] Testing . . .

2011-11-25 Thread George Gallen
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Re: [U2] Testing . . .

2011-11-24 Thread Don Verhagen
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Re: [U2] Testing . . .

2011-11-24 Thread u2ug
Well that's 1

After the posting overload last week this week has been zero.

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RE: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block {Unclassified}

2008-03-04 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Jacques,

If you're referring to UniVerse, use the @TRANSACTION meta-variable:-

@TRANSACTION * A numeric value. Any nonzero value indicates that a
transaction is active; the value 0 indicates that no transaction
exists.


Regards


Mike

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Subject: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

If there a way for a subroutine to know that it has been called from
within a 

BEGIN TRANSACTION
END TRANSACTION

I've got a subroutine somewhere that is calling an illegal command for a
transaction block and having hard time finding where the call is coming
from.


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Re: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

2008-03-04 Thread Louie Bergsagel
If your subroutines don't return their name in the error message when they
fail, the only other things I've done is to use RAID, or to put debug
statements in the programs:

IF UPCASE(@SENTENCE) MATCHES 0X'DEBUG'0X THEN DEBUG = @TRUE ELSE DEBUG =
@FALSE

IF DEBUG THEN DISPLAY Begin subroutine DO.SOMETHING:DATE():' ':TIME()
CALL DO.SOMETHING(ARGS...)
IF DEBUG THEN DISPLAY End subroutine DO.SOMETHING:DATE():' ':TIME()

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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Jacques G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If there a way for a subroutine to know that it has been called from
within a

  BEGIN TRANSACTION
  END TRANSACTION

  I've got a subroutine somewhere that is calling an illegal command for a
transaction block and having hard time finding where the call is coming
from.





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RE: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

2008-03-04 Thread Colin Alfke
UniData uses SYSTEM(49) for the call stack.

hth
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Calgary, Canada

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From: Jacques G.

If there a way for a subroutine to know that it has been called from within
a 

BEGIN TRANSACTION
END TRANSACTION

I've got a subroutine somewhere that is calling an illegal command for a
transaction block and having hard time finding where the call is coming
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RE: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

2008-03-04 Thread David A. Green
In UniData there is @TRANSACTION.

Thanks,
David A. Green
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Subject: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

If there a way for a subroutine to know that it has been called from within
a 

BEGIN TRANSACTION
END TRANSACTION

I've got a subroutine somewhere that is calling an illegal command for a
transaction block and having hard time finding where the call is coming
from.


 


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RE: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

2008-03-04 Thread phil walker
In Universe these is @TRANSACTION.LEVEL I believe or @TRANSACTION. You
also have SYSTEM(9001) ? which will give you the call stack. It is
probably a EXECUTE of a command or SH which is generally illegal. You
can turn then on by adding a 'H' from memory to attribute 4 of the VOC
file entry.

Sorry to be vague but I don't have access to a system at the moment.

Cheers,

Phil.

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Subject: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

If there a way for a subroutine to know that it has been called from
within a 

BEGIN TRANSACTION
END TRANSACTION

I've got a subroutine somewhere that is calling an illegal command for a
transaction block and having hard time finding where the call is coming
from.


 


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RE: [U2] Testing for TRANSACTION block

2008-03-04 Thread Perry Taylor
If you are running on UniVerse try @TRANSACTION.

Perry 

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If there a way for a subroutine to know that it has been called from
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BEGIN TRANSACTION
END TRANSACTION

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Re: [U2] testing

2008-01-01 Thread MAJ Programming
I don't know what's special about me, MAJ. I guess I'm lucky in having a
great group of clients that appreciate what I do for their MV systems
(Uv/Ud/D3/Mcd/GA and native) and am not caught up with internal company
policies.

Not that I have an exclusive on being a good MV person nor a good business
person. I do thank my lucky stars that I've grown my business with my
clients and the solutions I deliver, despite some criticisms from those more
technically as advanced than I.

In fact, I just uncovered a $90,000 billing error for one client whereby
another mv programmer had overlooked a basic premise and I caught it during
a year-end analysis that piqued my curiosity. The client had no idea and
when I showed them the error, my next mission became very clearly defined.

I don't work on commission but $90,000 won't be forgotten for a long time. I
guess when my skills go beyond MV programming and venture into standard
business practices then my value to my clients grow. Nothing says that I
can't be good at both.

Hopefully that helps.
Mark Johnson


- Original Message -
From: Tom Dodds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] testing


 That has been my experience, but then I am not MAJ. :-)

 Tom Dodds
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 630.235.2975


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:10 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] testing

 We have no discrimination around here, if a site is blocked for one it
 is blocked for all, including the person blocking it. If you came in
 here on a contract you would be treated the same way. Since you would be
 on contract I would be surprised if you had any internet access at all.

 Jerry Banker
 Sr Programmer Analyst
 Affiliated Acceptance Corp
 Sunrise Beach, MO
 1-800-233-8483
 www.affiliated.org

  -Original Message-
  From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
  Anthony:
 
  Then I must not understand what a 'forum' is.
 
  I use the Raining Data forum http://forums.rainingdata.com/ all the
 time
  (some say too much).
 
  This page has the RD 'products' (D3 NT, D3 Aix, D3 Linux, MvBase etc)
 neatly
  illustrated like a table of contents and shows the latest posting.
 
  Clicking on a 'product' will give you a listing of the topics within.
 It
  also shows you the technical announcements and any other top-down
  information.
 
  Within the topics themselves, you can see the different topics with
 the
  originator, number of views and replies and the time/date of the
 latest
  reply.
 
  This forum is spared a bunch of the static that an email forum offers.
 There
  are no redundant posts, no comments about trimming extraneous email
 content,
  no 'Fred is out of the office problems, etc. The topics may take a
  non-related tangent but not as pervasive as on the U2 one.
 
  By seeing the latest date for each thread, you can quickly see if the
 thread
  interests you and if the reply is considered 'new'.
 
  As one who participates on both, the RD one more organized. Ask TonyG.
 He's
  quite visible on both as well.
 
  While this forum is web-based and an email forum is not, I don't buy
 the
  argument that employers (clients) prevent internet access by their
 employees
  as a reason to not participate.
 
  Many of my clients have baracuda or other content blocking firewalls
 etc
  that I simply am not restricted with. I am considered middle to upper
  management by all of my clients as well as many 'employee' programmers
  should be. We are not the low man on the office totem pole.
 
  I've got some clients that sharpen their pencil more than most that
 allow me
  full access to the internet despite instituting strong-armed policies
 about
  employees mis-using the internet on company time. It's a trust thing.
 I'm a
  huge ebay participant and would not dare be caught doing ANYTHING with
 ebay
  at a client's site on their dime.
 
  My 1 cent
  Mark Johnson
  - Original Message -
  From: Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
   In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
   Wol:
   
   I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
 toys
  and go home?
   To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?
 There are
  too many
   postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
 complicated
  mess of
   things.
  
   I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
 snatch
   moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I
 have
   better things to do with my time (like working :-)
  
   At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web

Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-31 Thread MAJ Programming
Anthony:

Then I must not understand what a 'forum' is.

I use the Raining Data forum http://forums.rainingdata.com/ all the time
(some say too much).

This page has the RD 'products' (D3 NT, D3 Aix, D3 Linux, MvBase etc) neatly
illustrated like a table of contents and shows the latest posting.

Clicking on a 'product' will give you a listing of the topics within. It
also shows you the technical announcements and any other top-down
information.

Within the topics themselves, you can see the different topics with the
originator, number of views and replies and the time/date of the latest
reply.

This forum is spared a bunch of the static that an email forum offers. There
are no redundant posts, no comments about trimming extraneous email content,
no 'Fred is out of the office problems, etc. The topics may take a
non-related tangent but not as pervasive as on the U2 one.

By seeing the latest date for each thread, you can quickly see if the thread
interests you and if the reply is considered 'new'.

As one who participates on both, the RD one more organized. Ask TonyG. He's
quite visible on both as well.

While this forum is web-based and an email forum is not, I don't buy the
argument that employers (clients) prevent internet access by their employees
as a reason to not participate.

Many of my clients have baracuda or other content blocking firewalls etc
that I simply am not restricted with. I am considered middle to upper
management by all of my clients as well as many 'employee' programmers
should be. We are not the low man on the office totem pole.

I've got some clients that sharpen their pencil more than most that allow me
full access to the internet despite instituting strong-armed policies about
employees mis-using the internet on company time. It's a trust thing. I'm a
huge ebay participant and would not dare be caught doing ANYTHING with ebay
at a client's site on their dime.

My 1 cent
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] testing


 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 Wol:
 
 I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys
and go home?
 To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are
too many
 postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated
mess of
 things.

 I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or snatch
 moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I have
 better things to do with my time (like working :-)

 At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a solution
 in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho this
 is one of those situations.

 I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out - there
 ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
 while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
 reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.

 Cheers,
 Wol
 --
 Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the
 thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The
man
 lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-31 Thread Tom Dodds
That has been my experience, but then I am not MAJ. :-)

Tom Dodds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
630.235.2975


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:10 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] testing

We have no discrimination around here, if a site is blocked for one it
is blocked for all, including the person blocking it. If you came in
here on a contract you would be treated the same way. Since you would be
on contract I would be surprised if you had any internet access at all.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 Anthony:
 
 Then I must not understand what a 'forum' is.
 
 I use the Raining Data forum http://forums.rainingdata.com/ all the
time
 (some say too much).
 
 This page has the RD 'products' (D3 NT, D3 Aix, D3 Linux, MvBase etc)
neatly
 illustrated like a table of contents and shows the latest posting.
 
 Clicking on a 'product' will give you a listing of the topics within.
It
 also shows you the technical announcements and any other top-down
 information.
 
 Within the topics themselves, you can see the different topics with
the
 originator, number of views and replies and the time/date of the
latest
 reply.
 
 This forum is spared a bunch of the static that an email forum offers.
There
 are no redundant posts, no comments about trimming extraneous email
content,
 no 'Fred is out of the office problems, etc. The topics may take a
 non-related tangent but not as pervasive as on the U2 one.
 
 By seeing the latest date for each thread, you can quickly see if the
thread
 interests you and if the reply is considered 'new'.
 
 As one who participates on both, the RD one more organized. Ask TonyG.
He's
 quite visible on both as well.
 
 While this forum is web-based and an email forum is not, I don't buy
the
 argument that employers (clients) prevent internet access by their
employees
 as a reason to not participate.
 
 Many of my clients have baracuda or other content blocking firewalls
etc
 that I simply am not restricted with. I am considered middle to upper
 management by all of my clients as well as many 'employee' programmers
 should be. We are not the low man on the office totem pole.
 
 I've got some clients that sharpen their pencil more than most that
allow me
 full access to the internet despite instituting strong-armed policies
about
 employees mis-using the internet on company time. It's a trust thing.
I'm a
 huge ebay participant and would not dare be caught doing ANYTHING with
ebay
 at a client's site on their dime.
 
 My 1 cent
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
  Wol:
  
  I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
toys
 and go home?
  To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?
There are
 too many
  postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
complicated
 mess of
  things.
 
  I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
snatch
  moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I
have
  better things to do with my time (like working :-)
 
  At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a
solution
  in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho
this
  is one of those situations.
 
  I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out -
there
  ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
  while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
  reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.
 
  Cheers,
  Wol
  --
  Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking
the
  thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny.
The
 man
  lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
  Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open
Source
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-31 Thread MAJ Programming
If the company is blocking www.rainingdata.com or www.ibm.com or
www.sunsystems.com or any other business-only then there's a bigger problem.
I have successfully insisted that I have access to these sites and more as
they help me do my jobs for the clients.

I seriously doubt that www.ibm.com would be blocked. We're talking about
sites that legimately help in one's job functions, not offer a distraction.
If I want some fun, I ain't clicking on www.ibm.com.

Also, I'm not engaged as a pure programmer only. Sure, that opens the door,
but my additional business knowledge (not mv nor even IT related) is
exercised many times during every week with my many clients. My mv/IT skills
often implement the business designs and policies that I help create.

Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] testing


 We have no discrimination around here, if a site is blocked for one it
 is blocked for all, including the person blocking it. If you came in
 here on a contract you would be treated the same way. Since you would be
 on contract I would be surprised if you had any internet access at all.

 Jerry Banker
 Sr Programmer Analyst
 Affiliated Acceptance Corp
 Sunrise Beach, MO
 1-800-233-8483
 www.affiliated.org

  -Original Message-
  From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
  Anthony:
 
  Then I must not understand what a 'forum' is.
 
  I use the Raining Data forum http://forums.rainingdata.com/ all the
 time
  (some say too much).
 
  This page has the RD 'products' (D3 NT, D3 Aix, D3 Linux, MvBase etc)
 neatly
  illustrated like a table of contents and shows the latest posting.
 
  Clicking on a 'product' will give you a listing of the topics within.
 It
  also shows you the technical announcements and any other top-down
  information.
 
  Within the topics themselves, you can see the different topics with
 the
  originator, number of views and replies and the time/date of the
 latest
  reply.
 
  This forum is spared a bunch of the static that an email forum offers.
 There
  are no redundant posts, no comments about trimming extraneous email
 content,
  no 'Fred is out of the office problems, etc. The topics may take a
  non-related tangent but not as pervasive as on the U2 one.
 
  By seeing the latest date for each thread, you can quickly see if the
 thread
  interests you and if the reply is considered 'new'.
 
  As one who participates on both, the RD one more organized. Ask TonyG.
 He's
  quite visible on both as well.
 
  While this forum is web-based and an email forum is not, I don't buy
 the
  argument that employers (clients) prevent internet access by their
 employees
  as a reason to not participate.
 
  Many of my clients have baracuda or other content blocking firewalls
 etc
  that I simply am not restricted with. I am considered middle to upper
  management by all of my clients as well as many 'employee' programmers
  should be. We are not the low man on the office totem pole.
 
  I've got some clients that sharpen their pencil more than most that
 allow me
  full access to the internet despite instituting strong-armed policies
 about
  employees mis-using the internet on company time. It's a trust thing.
 I'm a
  huge ebay participant and would not dare be caught doing ANYTHING with
 ebay
  at a client's site on their dime.
 
  My 1 cent
  Mark Johnson
  - Original Message -
  From: Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
   In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
   Wol:
   
   I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
 toys
  and go home?
   To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?
 There are
  too many
   postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
 complicated
  mess of
   things.
  
   I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
 snatch
   moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I
 have
   better things to do with my time (like working :-)
  
   At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a
 solution
   in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho
 this
   is one of those situations.
  
   I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out -
 there
   ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
   while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
   reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.
  
   Cheers,
   Wol
   --
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   'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking
 the
   thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat

RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-31 Thread Doug Chanco
Have you ever tried it?  The most fun I have ever had was trying to find
universe documentation that did not have references to uniadmin 

But shush, if they hear about the fun I have on ibm.com they may block
it ..

If I want some fun, I ain't clicking on www.ibm.com.

Happy holidays all!

Dougc
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-30 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.


I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or snatch 
moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I have 
better things to do with my time (like working :-)


At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a solution 
in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho this 
is one of those situations.


I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out - there 
ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused 
while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the 
reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.


Cheers,
Wol
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-29 Thread Symeon Breen
I frequent the forum as well but it is so sparsely populated as everyone is on 
here - TBH it drives me nuts when I go away for a week and then get 400 mails 
coming through that I aint gonna read. Every other technology I use I am in a 
forum for - .net, designbais, redhat, MS office, a DJ one, hey even a diy one. 
This is the only email list I am on - they are pretty rare these days it 
seems

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. 
Youngman
Sent: 28 December 2007 20:44
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Symeon Breen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - 
why is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.

Horses for courses ... if you prefer a forum, why aren't you using the 
forum on u2ug? My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

(Oh - and as for the multiple replies, it ought to be well known that 
the mail server is throttled. So there's a good chance that when I see 
the what's 1+1 post, chances are there are several answers on the 
server that haven't been sent to me. Tough - that's the way the system 
works, unfortunately.)

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-29 Thread Craig Bennett

list I am on - they are pretty rare these days it seems

  

You mean like the ratio of SQL to MV sites?
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-29 Thread MAJ Programming
Which DJ forum. I'm pretty involved in that biz.
Thanks
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: Symeon Breen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] testing


 I frequent the forum as well but it is so sparsely populated as everyone
is on here - TBH it drives me nuts when I go away for a week and then get
400 mails coming through that I aint gonna read. Every other technology I
use I am in a forum for - .net, designbais, redhat, MS office, a DJ one, hey
even a diy one. This is the only email list I am on - they are pretty rare
these days it seems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. Youngman
 Sent: 28 December 2007 20:44
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] testing

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Symeon Breen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list -
 why is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.
 
 Horses for courses ... if you prefer a forum, why aren't you using the
 forum on u2ug? My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not
 there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

 (Oh - and as for the multiple replies, it ought to be well known that
 the mail server is throttled. So there's a good chance that when I see
 the what's 1+1 post, chances are there are several answers on the
 server that haven't been sent to me. Tough - that's the way the system
 works, unfortunately.)

 Cheers,
 Wol
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man
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Craig Bennett
   But Symeon. You dislike email lists I dislike forums.
   I guess this perennial topic is due again.
   Craig
   Symeon Breen wrote:

Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - why is it 
an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.

Symeon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
Sent: 28 December 2007 03:56
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] testing

Like many on this forum, I get around 80 emails a day. They are sorted by
date/time and if I read a u2-post on the email at 2:00 pm that says What is
1+1?, I may react and reply to it without reading the answer on the 3:00pm
email (and 3:05 and 3:10 and 3:15 etc). I may have gotten some ebay emails
at 2:05, some enhancement emails at 2:10, an offer to help a rich African
dignatary at 2:15, etc etc.

Part of the volume are the excessive answers. On the D3 forum (available
anywhere and not just on an email client), you can see the date of the last
post to a thread. Plus, you will see the complete thread's content, no more,
no less.

So when someone earlier replies to the question What is 1+1, you can see
if someone else responded with 2.

My 1+1 cents
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MAJ Programming u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [U2] testing

MAJ,

Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email client
that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that

Of course if people don't read first nothing can help

DSig

Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote:

MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method (like
MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).

MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe question

and

MP PH answer.

MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already seen

PH

MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig about
MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a great

step

MP in the reduction of all

MP Have a Merry Christmas.

MP My 1 cent
MP Mark Johnson
MP - Original Message -
MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM
MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing

Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your

MP PHANTOM

command to get the specific item I'd

Perry

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Subject: RE: [U2] testing

A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
phantom question

Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
started the phantom with logging)

Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

Thanks,

Dougc

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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Bill Haskett
Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.

Is this a particular IT mentality?  Does this explain the many standards that
saturate the IT industry.  Do we really need numerous protocols to do the same
stinking things over and over and over!  Perhaps we in the IT industry ought to 
heed
this proclivity of ours and try to do something about it.  A good new years
resolution, eh?  :-)

Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Anthony W. Youngman
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:44 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

Horses for courses ... if you prefer a forum, why aren't you using the 
forum on u2ug? My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

(Oh - and as for the multiple replies, it ought to be well known that 
the mail server is throttled. So there's a good chance that when I see 
the what's 1+1 post, chances are there are several answers on the 
server that haven't been sent to me. Tough - that's the way the system 
works, unfortunately.)

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread doug chanco
I for one did not notice any if you don't playing our way go home in 
his email.  All he said is that if you prefer using  a forum why are you 
subscribed to email when a forum is available on u2ug (at least that how 
I read his email)


the reason we need so many stinking protocls is that different people 
like different things and I for one do not consider 2 (email or forum) 
to be too many, now if we had


forums
emails
sms
IM
regular mail
etc,etc,etc

then I might say whoa enough already but having an email and forum 
option seem perfectly logical to me


dougc

maybe we should quit having so many stinking pick version, so many 
computer models, so many stinking computer languages and just 
standardize on just one?


you should be laughing now
:)

Bill Haskett wrote:

Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.

Is this a particular IT mentality?  Does this explain the many standards that
saturate the IT industry.  Do we really need numerous protocols to do the same
stinking things over and over and over!  Perhaps we in the IT industry ought to 
heed
this proclivity of ours and try to do something about it.  A good new years
resolution, eh?  :-)

Bill

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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Paul Law
I don't reply often, but thought my two bits might be worth something.

Some of us prefer push (email)
Some of us prefer pull (forum)
Some of us have no choice other than push as some IT departments block Internet 
access, but not email.

Personally, I prefer push, but could live with pull.  However, I'd hate to 
loose the last group if we went to pull.

And there's my two bits,

Paul Law
Programmer / Analyst
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6810
Fax: 847-367-1951
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent:   Friday, December 28, 2007 3:09 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:RE: [U2] testing

Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.

Is this a particular IT mentality?  Does this explain the many standards that
saturate the IT industry.  Do we really need numerous protocols to do the same
stinking things over and over and over!  Perhaps we in the IT industry ought to 
heed
this proclivity of ours and try to do something about it.  A good new years
resolution, eh?  :-)

Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Anthony W. Youngman
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:44 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

Horses for courses ... if you prefer a forum, why aren't you using the 
forum on u2ug? My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

(Oh - and as for the multiple replies, it ought to be well known that 
the mail server is throttled. So there's a good chance that when I see 
the what's 1+1 post, chances are there are several answers on the 
server that haven't been sent to me. Tough - that's the way the system 
works, unfortunately.)

Cheers,
Wol
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Bill Haskett
Doug:

A direct quote from Wol; My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, 
not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

My apologies if I've misunderstood his meaning.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doug chanco
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:06 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

I for one did not notice any if you don't playing our way go home in 
his email.  All he said is that if you prefer using  a forum why are you 
subscribed to email when a forum is available on u2ug (at least that how 
I read his email)

[snipped]

Bill Haskett wrote:
 Wol:

 I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and 
 go
home?
 To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are 
 too many
 postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated 
 mess of
 things.

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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread doug chanco
no need to apologize, its the holiday season after all and even if it 
wasn't there still would not be a reason to


we all have different needs/preferences for different reasons and each 
of them are as valid as the next


happy holidays!

dougc


Bill Haskett wrote:

Doug:

A direct quote from Wol; My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
  

there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)



My apologies if I've misunderstood his meaning.

Bill

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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread Doug Chanco
A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
phantom question 

Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
started the phantom with logging)

Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

Thanks,

Dougc

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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread Raul_Dominguez
Look for a directory called PH.

Regards,
Raul.



   
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A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
phantom question

Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
started the phantom with logging)

Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

Thanks,

Dougc

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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread Richard Brown

Check the PH file.

Richard

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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] testing



A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
phantom question 


Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
started the phantom with logging)

Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

Thanks,

Dougc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry-u2ug
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread karlp
Check PH in the account in which the phantom runs.

Karl

quote who=Doug Chanco
 A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

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 Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

 Thanks,

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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread Perry Taylor
Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your PHANTOM
command to get the specific item I'd

Perry

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A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
phantom question

Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
started the phantom with logging)

Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

Thanks,

Dougc

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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread Doug Chanco
Thanks everyone!

dougc

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Check PH in the account in which the phantom runs.

Karl

quote who=Doug Chanco
 A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

 If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
 phantom question

 Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
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 started the phantom with logging)

 Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-24 Thread MAJ Programming
Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method (like
Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).

5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe question and
PH answer.

Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already seen PH
and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig about
bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a great step
in the reduction of all

Have a Merry Christmas.

My 1 cent
Mark Johnson
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 Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your
PHANTOM
 command to get the specific item I'd

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 A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

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 Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

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Unclassified RE: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

2004-11-29 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
Frank,

I wouldn't do it that way!
If the file actually has a gazillion records in it, COUNT could take a
l-o-n-g time! ;-)

Another way could be to do 
EXECUTE 'SELECT file name SAMPLE 1'.
IF @SELECTED EQ 0 THEN
the file is indeed empty
END ELSE
the file is not empty
END
[This is the UniVerse syntax, but UDT should be similar]


HTH


Mike

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To All:

I am writing an interesting program.  One that finds where a file is
empty of records or not.  I used the EXECUTE command with the COUNT
command to get the number of records in a file.  If its 0 then the file
is empty.

But is there a better way as the execution command causes problem in
other parts of this program.

So, if anyone has any ideas along the lines of telling if a file is
empty (Unidata file), could you please give me a note!


Thank You Very Much!


Frank Bright
Univ. of the Arts
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RE: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

2004-11-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I am writing an interesting program.  One that finds where
a
 file is empty of records or not.  I used the EXECUTE
command
 with the COUNT command to get the number of records in a
 file.  If its 0 then the file is empty.
 
 But is there a better way as the execution command causes
 problem in other parts of this program.

OPEN '',FILE_NAME TO FILE_VAR THEN
SELECT FILE_VAR TO SEL_VAR
REC_COUNT = 0
EOL = 0
LOOP
READNEXT ITEM_KEY FROM SEL_VAR ELSE EOL = 1
UNTIL EOL
REC_COUNT += 1
REPEAT
END

HTH,

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RE: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

2004-11-29 Thread Bob Woodward
I don't know if Unidata has it but in a Universe basic program if you
open the file then do a BASIC select, (not a TCL SELECT) you can then
use SELECTINFO(0,1) to report true/false if a select list is active in
Select List 0.  SELECTINFO(0,3) reports the count of the records
selected.  You can then do a CLEARSELECT if there were any data records.

There is also the idea of doing the same BASIC select but instead of
SELECTINFO, just do a single READNEXT.  If you hit ELSE, it's empty.
Again, CLEARSELECT to release the select list.

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 Subject: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!
 
 To All:
 
 I am writing an interesting program.  One that finds where a file is
empty
 of records or not.  I used the EXECUTE command with the COUNT command
to
 get the number of records in a file.  If its 0 then the file is empty.
 
 But is there a better way as the execution command causes problem in
other
 parts of this program.
 
 So, if anyone has any ideas along the lines of telling if a file is
empty
 (Unidata file), could you please give me a note!
 
 
 Thank You Very Much!
 
 
 Frank Bright
 Univ. of the Arts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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RE: Unclassified RE: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

2004-11-29 Thread Kevin King
I'd recommend the same, but I'd use READNEXT instead of @SELECTED so
there isn't a list floating around waiting to be used.

EXECUTE 'SELECT filename SAMPLE 1'
READNEXT DUMMY THEN EMPTY = 0 ELSE EMPTY = 1 

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or not!

Frank,

I wouldn't do it that way!
If the file actually has a gazillion records in it, COUNT could take
a l-o-n-g time! ;-)

Another way could be to do 
EXECUTE 'SELECT file name SAMPLE 1'.
IF @SELECTED EQ 0 THEN
the file is indeed empty
END ELSE
the file is not empty
END
[This is the UniVerse syntax, but UDT should be similar]


HTH


Mike

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Subject: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

To All:

I am writing an interesting program.  One that finds where a file is
empty of records or not.  I used the EXECUTE command with the COUNT
command to get the number of records in a file.  If its 0 then the
file is empty.

But is there a better way as the execution command causes problem in
other parts of this program.

So, if anyone has any ideas along the lines of telling if a file is
empty (Unidata file), could you please give me a note!


Thank You Very Much!


Frank Bright
Univ. of the Arts
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RE: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

2004-11-29 Thread Kryka, Richard
I would do this:

SEL.8 = 8
OPEN '', 'TEST.FILE' TO OPEN.FILE THEN
   SELECT OPEN.FILE TO SEL.8
   READNEXT ID FROM SEL.8 THEN
  HAVE.RECORDS = 1
   END ELSE
  HAVE.RECORDS = 0
   END
   CLEARSELECT SEL.8
END

This should work on UV and UD.

Dick Kryka
Director of Applications
CCCS of Greater Denver, Inc.
Paragon Financial Services
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empty of records or not.  I used the EXECUTE command with the COUNT
command to get the number of records in a file.  If its 0 then the file
is empty.

But is there a better way as the execution command causes problem in
other parts of this program.

So, if anyone has any ideas along the lines of telling if a file is
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RE: [U2] Testing if a Unidata file has records or not!

2004-11-29 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Quickest way I can think of would be:
PRINT 'Enter Filename : ':;INPUT FILENAME
PERFORM 'SELECT ':FILENAME:' SAMPLE 1'
SELECTED = @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE
IF SELECTED THEN
  PRINT FILENAME:' contains records'
END ELSE
  PRINT FILENAME:' is empty
END
PERFORM CLEARSELECT
STOP



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To All:

I am writing an interesting program.  One that finds where a file is empty
of records or not.  I used the EXECUTE command with the COUNT command to get
the number of records in a file.  If its 0 then the file is empty.

But is there a better way as the execution command causes problem in other
parts of this program.

So, if anyone has any ideas along the lines of telling if a file is empty
(Unidata file), could you please give me a note!


Thank You Very Much!


Frank Bright
Univ. of the Arts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [U2] Testing

2004-11-01 Thread Caryl Lange
No 

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Hello out there??? Anyone home?
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