Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
In case anyone is interested, this was eventually solved by changing the owner of the accounts that had the issue, so it was, in fact, a permissions problem. -Dianne On 8/21/2013 9:59 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Thanks Aaron, I'll check that out! -Dianne On 8/21/2013 9:57 AM, Aaron Titus wrote: hmm.. ten doesn't seem like that much. The way you describe the problem it sounds like a directory-level performance issue, i.e. its scanning directories in the filesystem and there is some directory with a very large number of entries -- far larger than it should be. I would typically guess PH or COMO might have a large number of entries, but then again not sure why STATUS function would go after those. If this was Linux or Unix, what I would do to figure this out is to put a truss / strace on the uvsh process, and use the option to show timestamps on the function calls. You'd then be able to see which OS level operation was actually consuming the time. Usually that will be a dead give away as to where the problem is. I'm not sure how to accomplish the equivalent of this on Windows platforms. I did a quick search on the internet and I came up with a sysinternals tool called Process Monitor. While I can say that I've used many of the sysinternals tools in the past and had success, I've never done this particular type of tracing on windows so I don't know how to give you specific instructions. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http**://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
Actually that was just an example, the accounts are under a local drive U, not C And from the other suggestions I've received, the accounts are all setup under uniadmin and exist in the uv.account file -Dianne On 8/20/2013 5:12 PM, Bill Haskett wrote: Diane: I use UniData and always put my accounts underneath a level separate from @UDTHOME (in E:\UDAccounts). I've never had this kind of problem, but have had DNS issues. I wouldn't even contemplate putting anything under C: so have no idea what can happen there. :-( Bill - Original Message - *From:* dia...@aptron.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 8/20/2013 1:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.**PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX __**_ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
hmm.. ten doesn't seem like that much. The way you describe the problem it sounds like a directory-level performance issue, i.e. its scanning directories in the filesystem and there is some directory with a very large number of entries -- far larger than it should be. I would typically guess PH or COMO might have a large number of entries, but then again not sure why STATUS function would go after those. If this was Linux or Unix, what I would do to figure this out is to put a truss / strace on the uvsh process, and use the option to show timestamps on the function calls. You'd then be able to see which OS level operation was actually consuming the time. Usually that will be a dead give away as to where the problem is. I'm not sure how to accomplish the equivalent of this on Windows platforms. I did a quick search on the internet and I came up with a sysinternals tool called Process Monitor. While I can say that I've used many of the sysinternals tools in the past and had success, I've never done this particular type of tracing on windows so I don't know how to give you specific instructions. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http**://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
Thanks Aaron, I'll check that out! -Dianne On 8/21/2013 9:57 AM, Aaron Titus wrote: hmm.. ten doesn't seem like that much. The way you describe the problem it sounds like a directory-level performance issue, i.e. its scanning directories in the filesystem and there is some directory with a very large number of entries -- far larger than it should be. I would typically guess PH or COMO might have a large number of entries, but then again not sure why STATUS function would go after those. If this was Linux or Unix, what I would do to figure this out is to put a truss / strace on the uvsh process, and use the option to show timestamps on the function calls. You'd then be able to see which OS level operation was actually consuming the time. Usually that will be a dead give away as to where the problem is. I'm not sure how to accomplish the equivalent of this on Windows platforms. I did a quick search on the internet and I came up with a sysinternals tool called Process Monitor. While I can say that I've used many of the sysinternals tools in the past and had success, I've never done this particular type of tracing on windows so I don't know how to give you specific instructions. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http**://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
The process monitor from Microsoft sysinternals will allow you to trace a process and it's timing. Regards JayJay On 21 Aug 2013, at 14:57, Aaron Titus ati...@fwdco.com wrote: hmm.. ten doesn't seem like that much. The way you describe the problem it sounds like a directory-level performance issue, i.e. its scanning directories in the filesystem and there is some directory with a very large number of entries -- far larger than it should be. I would typically guess PH or COMO might have a large number of entries, but then again not sure why STATUS function would go after those. If this was Linux or Unix, what I would do to figure this out is to put a truss / strace on the uvsh process, and use the option to show timestamps on the function calls. You'd then be able to see which OS level operation was actually consuming the time. Usually that will be a dead give away as to where the problem is. I'm not sure how to accomplish the equivalent of this on Windows platforms. I did a quick search on the internet and I came up with a sysinternals tool called Process Monitor. While I can say that I've used many of the sysinternals tools in the past and had success, I've never done this particular type of tracing on windows so I don't know how to give you specific instructions. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http**://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.**PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.**PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
Diane: I use UniData and always put my accounts underneath a level separate from @UDTHOME (in E:\UDAccounts). I've never had this kind of problem, but have had DNS issues. I wouldn't even contemplate putting anything under C: so have no idea what can happen there. :-( Bill - Original Message - *From:* dia...@aptron.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 8/20/2013 1:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.**PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
mine are under /usr/ud I also have /ud as a top level directory - Original Message - From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Diane: I use UniData and always put my accounts underneath a level separate from @UDTHOME (in E:\UDAccounts). I've never had this kind of problem, but have had DNS issues. I wouldn't even contemplate putting anything under C: so have no idea what can happen there. :-( Bill - Original Message - *From:* dia...@aptron.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 8/20/2013 1:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.**PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
If you think it could be DNS related then... Are able to compile a more or less complete list of host names that you are trying to resolve via DNS and placing these in your hosts file on the server with the problem? Ensuring that the hostname search order was files dns (this config file would be windows equivalent of unix /etc/nsswitch.conf). This would let the problem host resolve hostnames locally without the need to go to a (networked) DNS lookup. Then see if that improves the DNS response times? Peter Cheney Universe Engineer t 07 3017 8837 | f 07 3002 8400 e peter.che...@firstmac.com.au | w www.firstmac.com.au From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of Robert Frailey [rfrai...@utahmed.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 7:46 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine mine are under /usr/ud I also have /ud as a top level directory - Original Message - From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Diane: I use UniData and always put my accounts underneath a level separate from @UDTHOME (in E:\UDAccounts). I've never had this kind of problem, but have had DNS issues. I wouldn't even contemplate putting anything under C: so have no idea what can happen there. :-( Bill - Original Message - *From:* dia...@aptron.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 8/20/2013 1:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine c:\level contains about 10 universe accounts. All are local directories, none are remote. -Dianne On 8/20/2013 4:24 PM, Aaron Titus wrote: Hi Diane, a couple of questions. How many other directories exist within c:\level ? Is C:\ACCOUNT a local directory and c:\level remote? *Aaron Titus* Senior Software Engineer F.W. Davison Company, Inc. 508-747-7261 x245 ati...@fwdco.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Dianne Ackerman dia...@aptron.com wrote: OK, I've found the PERMISSIONS subroutine (APP.PROGS PERMS.B) and have narrowed this issue down more. It's actually a slowness in the basic command STATUS. It's instantaneous in an upper level account (eg C:\ACCOUNT) but takes 4-5 seconds in a lower level account (eg C:\level\ACCOUNT). Any thoughts? Thanks -Dianne On 8/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.**PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Note: This email (inc all attachments) is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this communication. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete all copies of this message from your computer network. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. If you are the intended recipient and you do not wish to receive similar electronic messages from us in future, then please respond to the sender to this effect. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, but advise you to carry out your own virus checks on this email and its attachments. We do not accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses and do
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
On 15/08/13 16:26, Dianne Ackerman wrote: I'll have to check that, thanks. -Dianne One thing to watch out for (I'm sure it's been discussed (by me) recently, just can't remember where) MAKE SURE YOUR CHANGES TO THE HOSTS FILE STICK! Something to do with Windows protecting itself, but it's difficult to change system files - Windows has a habit of silently reverting changes. What it actually does is save the changes to a special user area, so it modifies that user's experience. Except that if you're trying to change a system config file to modify everybody's experience - like the hosts file - it's just another case of Artificial Stupidity. I've been trying to put my (fixed IP) network printers into the hosts file on my Win7 laptop, and I've just given up ... Cheers, Wol On 8/15/2013 11:04 AM, George Gallen wrote: When we had delays with telnet logins, we traced it back to the reverse DNS That telnetd was doing. If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Format is: IPaddresstabmachinename Ex. 192.168.0.15tabcomputer1 It does not have to be a fully qualified domain name, as if it's in the hosts file, that Usually prevents a reverse DNS lookup. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
It's a new system, so I'm not concerned about that. Thanks. On 8/15/2013 10:25 AM, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
When we had delays with telnet logins, we traced it back to the reverse DNS That telnetd was doing. If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Format is: IPaddresstabmachinename Ex. 192.168.0.15tabcomputer1 It does not have to be a fully qualified domain name, as if it's in the hosts file, that Usually prevents a reverse DNS lookup. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
On windows, the hosts file is at %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine When we had delays with telnet logins, we traced it back to the reverse DNS That telnetd was doing. If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Format is: IPaddresstabmachinename Ex. 192.168.0.15tabcomputer1 It does not have to be a fully qualified domain name, as if it's in the hosts file, that Usually prevents a reverse DNS lookup. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
On 15/08/13 16:04, George Gallen wrote: If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Winders its something like c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\ I'm not sure but it's certainly deep in the bowels ... Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
I'll have to check that, thanks. -Dianne On 8/15/2013 11:04 AM, George Gallen wrote: When we had delays with telnet logins, we traced it back to the reverse DNS That telnetd was doing. If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Format is: IPaddresstabmachinename Ex. 192.168.0.15tabcomputer1 It does not have to be a fully qualified domain name, as if it's in the hosts file, that Usually prevents a reverse DNS lookup. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
On windows host file is at: C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts Or wherever your system32 directory lives. I also remember having to turn off the netbios over tcp for all my network connections (including virtual networking/vpns). Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 15 August 2013 16:04 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine When we had delays with telnet logins, we traced it back to the reverse DNS That telnetd was doing. If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Format is: IPaddresstabmachinename Ex. 192.168.0.15tabcomputer1 It does not have to be a fully qualified domain name, as if it's in the hosts file, that Usually prevents a reverse DNS lookup. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
the hosts file is in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts - Original Message - From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine When we had delays with telnet logins, we traced it back to the reverse DNS That telnetd was doing. If you put the IP addresses of the telnet clients into the hosts file on the UV server Does the delay go away? I believe on windows servers the hosts file is at c:\ but I'm not sure. Format is: IPaddresstabmachinename Ex. 192.168.0.15tabcomputer1 It does not have to be a fully qualified domain name, as if it's in the hosts file, that Usually prevents a reverse DNS lookup. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Yes! Actually, the login does also have the same delay. Sad to hear you didn't find a solution... On 8/15/2013 10:35 AM, mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com wrote: Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
look at your system log, disk errors and timeout should be showing up - Original Message - From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine
On my unidata server, if I loose internet access my telnet sessions crawl due to the server not being able to authenticate smtp and name server lookup. I've been told the having an internal dns will solve this issue - Original Message - From: mhilb...@ppcsoftware.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Dianne, Does your login to telnet sessions also have this same delay? We experienced this problem (with ED and with Login); never fixed it. The company was a multinational that managed user priveleges at an international corporate level, so even though we are in Argentina, supoosedly there was some validation going on at a server in the US or elsewhere. The multinational sold local operations to a local company and the problem went away when we left the corportate network. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0500, George Gallen wrote: To me, if it is causing a delay that was not there before - raises red flags and back hairs of read disk errors (or gonna be errors soon). Can you do a disk scan? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] ED PERMISSIONS subroutine Does anyone know anything about the -PERMISSIONS subroutine used by the ED verb in Universe? Running 11.1.12 on Windows, the ED verb has a huge delay and we've tracked it down to that subroutine call in the basic ED program. If I could look at that subroutine to see what it's doing, maybe I can figure out what's causing that delay. Thanks! -Dianne ED BP ED.B The file BP is read-only and cannot be updated. 3988 lines long. : L PERMISSIONS 0153: PERMISSIONS = '-PERMISSIONS' : L 0308: CALL @PERMISSIONS(EDIT.FILE,EDIT.PERM.MODE,EDIT.PERM.IN,EDIT .PERM.OUT) : EX ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
