Re: Looking for Software

2004-01-27 Thread Richard Sammartino


Barrie,  We use DESQTOP from Monolith.  I don't know if the
software is still available.  It is written in PICK basic and will
run under Pick/Unidata/Universe/Prime.  The word processor has a
spell checker and will allow you to update words in the spell check
dictionary.  Some of their software can be embedded and called from
your existing software.
Rich Sammartino
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A snowy hello from Maryland.  Does anyone know of a
UniVerse or System Builder Word Processing package?  We require
spell checking, including the input of custom dictionary items and what
MSWord calls AutoCorrect.  This is a process that would take
"shortcut" codes from the input and convert them to previously
defined strings of perhaps technical, medical information.

We currently have our staff enter the document, including
the shortcut codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the codes to
text, then use System Builder to transfer the temporary ".txt"
file to a record in one of our UniVerse files.

Thanks for any responses. 
Barrie Matovcik 
MobilexUSA 
410.773.2080 

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RE: Looking for Software

2004-01-27 Thread Anthony Youngman
Much as I would love people to start using WordPerfect again ...

The latest WP/Unix I know of is 5.1 for SCO - I would be surprised if
that wasn't revamped, though, to at least v6.

There is a WP8/linux which is a native version. Unfortunately, it is
libc5 based so it's a pain to install on any recent distro (recent as in
the last two or three years at least!). I can email anyone the shareware
version (including licence codes) if they want it, but for commercial
use you need a paid-for licence which will be difficult to get.

WP9 (Perfect Office 2000) was released in a linux version. BUT

This was the version that was rewritten for "Windows only" and supplied
for linux with WINE. Co-incidentally, this was why WINE suddenly
improved so dramatically in this time period - Corel threw loads of
engineering at it because they intended to "WINEify" all their apps.

If I were implementing WP on a linux server, I'd get a copy of the
Windows version (either WP10 or WP9), and run it using standard WINE. 9
will almost certainly work (I haven't tried it), 10 I don't know. Oh -
get a fast server, because you'll need it.

WP10 might be problematic, because this is the time MS threw a few
million $ at Corel to get them to pull out of linux.

Cheers,
Wol

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Word Perfect used to have a UNIX version -- I don't know if that is
still
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RE: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread djordan
It is also worth looking at Office 2003.  You can set up the word
document with xml described items like form fields.  You can then save
just the xml data which is the elements and values that you can pass
back to system builder.  I think you can reload the data back into the
origional Word document through the same process, but I have not played
around with it enough.

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Barrie, you're not clear about exactly how and where you'd like the
client interface to work (Win32/*nix?).  It's easy to create a Windows
interface which just uses the components you want out of Word - that is,
the user may not need to fire up Word or use the Word UI, but the Word
engine will still be there (and a license is required).  When the user
Saves a Word doc it can be stored in an MV environment.  The question
is, do you want Word?

If you store the doc in Universe, you need to decide if you just want
text or if you want formatting too (of course you can get both).  If you
strip formatting then the next time the doc is edited the user might
want to add the formatting back - a bit of futility.  If you want
everything then Word can save as XML, which is pure text, so that the
next time the doc is loaded it looks the same as when it was saved.

I've done a lot of work with Word and the entire MS Office package.
Please visit http://nebula-rnd.com/products/ and in particular the
NebulaDoc page for more info. BTW, we also offer conversion from JET to
Word with our software: ConnectingFlight.

Good luck,
Tony
Nebula R&D

-Original Message-
From: Barrie Matovcik

A snowy hello from Maryland.  Does anyone know of a UniVerse or System
Builder Word Processing package?  We require spell checking, including
the input of custom dictionary items and what MSWord calls AutoCorrect.
This is a process that would take "shortcut" codes from the input and
convert them to previously defined strings of perhaps technical, medical
information. We currently have our staff enter the document, including
the shortcut codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the codes to
text, then use System Builder to transfer the temporary ".txt" file to a
record in one of our UniVerse files. Thanks for any responses. 
Barrie Matovcik 
MobilexUSA 
410.773.2080 


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RE: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread Tony Gravagno
Barrie, you're not clear about exactly how and where you'd like the client
interface to work (Win32/*nix?).  It's easy to create a Windows interface
which just uses the components you want out of Word - that is, the user may
not need to fire up Word or use the Word UI, but the Word engine will still
be there (and a license is required).  When the user Saves a Word doc it can
be stored in an MV environment.  The question is, do you want Word?

If you store the doc in Universe, you need to decide if you just want text
or if you want formatting too (of course you can get both).  If you strip
formatting then the next time the doc is edited the user might want to add
the formatting back - a bit of futility.  If you want everything then Word
can save as XML, which is pure text, so that the next time the doc is loaded
it looks the same as when it was saved.

I've done a lot of work with Word and the entire MS Office package.  Please
visit http://nebula-rnd.com/products/ and in particular the NebulaDoc page
for more info.
BTW, we also offer conversion from JET to Word with our software:
ConnectingFlight.

Good luck,
Tony
Nebula R&D

-Original Message-
From: Barrie Matovcik

A snowy hello from Maryland.  Does anyone know of a UniVerse or System
Builder Word Processing package?  We require spell checking, including the
input of custom dictionary items and what MSWord calls AutoCorrect.  This is
a process that would take "shortcut" codes from the input and convert them
to previously defined strings of perhaps technical, medical information.
We currently have our staff enter the document, including the shortcut
codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the codes to text, then use
System Builder to transfer the temporary ".txt" file to a record in one of
our UniVerse files.
Thanks for any responses. 
Barrie Matovcik 
MobilexUSA 
410.773.2080 


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RE: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread Stuart Boydell
Title: Looking for Software



The 
following are some thoughts as there are lots of options if you are using SB+ depending on your (windows)clients and skill sets.
Are 
you running SB+ in CUI or GUI mode? Do you have someone with a clue about windows 
programming on your team? Are you prepared to retrain your users to use 
something other than Word? Are you running Samba (or similar) on the unix server?
SB+ is somewhat ActiveX 
object aware, so in theory you can imbed the Word document into an SB+ GUI screen (i haven't tried but it should be possible).
SB+ 
can use Windows Host Scripting to perform very powerful windows integration functions.
As Dawn pointed out, it is not difficult to call a Unix 
editor and then you don't have to mess around with windows programming & 
transfers. 
You 
could use the SE editor included with SB+ and then run the text through a 
spell checker - Google, there are bound to be lots of open source ones.
You 
can use Word and transfer the data back using samba, DDE, the windows clipboard or calling Uniobjects from within Word to drop the text 
into the database. Word also allows you to save files using 
FTP.
This 
topic has come up on the sbsolutions list before - check the archives there too.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sbsolutions
HTH,
Stuart
 

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  WheelingSubject: Looking for Software
  A snowy hello from Maryland.  Does anyone know 
  of a UniVerse or System Builder Word Processing package?  We require   spell checking, including the input of custom dictionary items and what MSWord 
  calls AutoCorrect.  This is a process that would take "shortcut" codes 
  from the input and convert them to previously defined strings of perhaps   technical, medical information.
  We currently have our staff enter the document, 
  including the shortcut codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the   codes to text, then use System Builder to transfer the temporary ".txt" file 
  to a record in one of our UniVerse files.
  Thanks for any responses. Barrie Matovcik MobilexUSA 410.773.2080 
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Re: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread Ian McGowan
a crazy idea, but you could use emacs - it even works on character based
terminals, so no client side to install.  it can spell check and do
autocorrection using flyspell-mode (though it sounds like abbrev-mode is
more like what you want).  i shudder to think of training users in emacs
though :-)

rather than transferring the files around, how about a web based
editor?  seems better than installing something on the client and
dealing with uploads.

http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm is free, or
http://www.telerik.com/?context=products&step=1 looks nifty.

you could have the terminal fire off a browser, and when they click
"submit" the text would be saved back via cgi and the browser window
closed...

ian

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 10:23, Barrie Matovcik wrote:
> A snowy hello from Maryland.  Does anyone know of a UniVerse or System
> Builder Word Processing package?  We require spell checking, including
> the input of custom dictionary items and what MSWord calls AutoCorrect.
> This is a process that would take "shortcut" codes from the input and
> convert them to previously defined strings of perhaps technical, medical
> information.
> 
> We currently have our staff enter the document, including the shortcut
> codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the codes to text, then
> use System Builder to transfer the temporary ".txt" file to a record in
> one of our UniVerse files.
> 
> Thanks for any responses. 
> Barrie Matovcik 
> MobilexUSA 
> 410.773.2080 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread David Beahm
re: Open Office:

See Tools | Spellcheck | AutoSpellcheck (to enable/disable on the 
current document)

or

Tools | Options | Language Settings | Writing Aids (to set globally)

As for format, they support XML but use other ones as well, including 
their own unique formats.

re: UV

Not to advocate MS Office, but it is possible to link into UV via 
UniObjects and VBA (thanks, Bjorn, I've put your Excel code to good 
use).  Theoretically you could use UV as a data store for your documents.

HTH,
David Beahm
Wendy Smoak wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
We currently have our staff enter the document, including the 
shortcut codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the 
codes to text, then use System Builder to transfer the 
temporary ".txt" file to a record in one of our UniVerse files.


How about Open Office?  It was annoyingly correcting my typing just last
night! (I looked around but couldn't find where to turn that off.)
IIRC, (and I didn't look) OpenOffice documents are pure XML, so they
should be easy to store in UniVerse-- just text.
It should be possible to write a "plugin" or something that would store
the document directly into UniVerse.  It's on my list to write one for
Jedit, but I don't think it has the autocorrect function you want. (It
might, there are a bunch of plugins, or someone could write one.)
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RE: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread Wendy Smoak
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> We currently have our staff enter the document, including the 
> shortcut codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the 
> codes to text, then use System Builder to transfer the 
> temporary ".txt" file to a record in one of our UniVerse files.

How about Open Office?  It was annoyingly correcting my typing just last
night! (I looked around but couldn't find where to turn that off.)
IIRC, (and I didn't look) OpenOffice documents are pure XML, so they
should be easy to store in UniVerse-- just text.

It should be possible to write a "plugin" or something that would store
the document directly into UniVerse.  It's on my list to write one for
Jedit, but I don't think it has the autocorrect function you want. (It
might, there are a bunch of plugins, or someone could write one.)

-- 
Wendy Smoak
Application Systems Analyst, Sr.
ASU IA Information Resources Management 
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RE: Looking for Software

2004-01-26 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
If I try to make some guesses, it sounds like you are running UniVerse on
UNIX and your clients are Windows boxes with MS Word on them.  Additionally,
it sounds like you have a requirement or simply a desire to handle the word
processing on the server, rather than the client.  One thing leading you to
this requirement is that data stored in UniVerse is integrating with the
documents.

For the server, you could try STAR Office from Sun -- I have no direct
experience with it, but it is office software, including word processing,
running on nothing-microsoft.

Word Perfect used to have a UNIX version -- I don't know if that is still
available.

But unless you must store the documents themselves in UniVerse, you might
want to work with a client/server approach such as ODBC from within MS Word.
You might be able to tell from previous posts of mine that I know it takes
word to make SQL work well with U2, but for integration with desktop office
tools, it can be worth it.  Doing the printing on the client has several
advantages, but also some costs.  Many, if not most, organizations have
moved to client-based printing for much of their IT work.

Of course, there's always downloading data (such as with CEDARVILLE
DOWNLOAD) and then merging with a Word document.

That's what I can think of off the top of my head.  Best wishes.  --dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

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Subject: Looking for Software

A snowy hello from Maryland.  Does anyone know of a UniVerse or System
Builder Word Processing package?  We require spell checking, including the
input of custom dictionary items and what MSWord calls AutoCorrect.  This is
a process that would take "shortcut" codes from the input and convert them
to previously defined strings of perhaps technical, medical information.
We currently have our staff enter the document, including the shortcut
codes, in Word, then AutoCorrect it to convert the codes to text, then use
System Builder to transfer the temporary ".txt" file to a record in one of
our UniVerse files.
Thanks for any responses. 
Barrie Matovcik 
MobilexUSA 
410.773.2080 

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