Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-16 Thread ralph
And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Use a channel size appropriate for the environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:42:18 AM

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-16 Thread Mathew Howard
I thought AC chipsets were 5ghz only... is that not that case? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:49 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
A. 1 802.11ac only specifies operation in the 5 GHz band. Operation in the 2.4 GHz band is specified by 802.11n. B. 1 2 3 With 802.11n, 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band can be achieved by using four spatial streams at 150 Mbit/s each. As of September 2014, commercially available devices that

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-16 Thread Mathew Howard
So basically, the AC standard doesn't support anything beyond N in 2.4ghz, but there are chipsets out there that added the useful stuff anyway... that makes sense. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Why isn't anybody petitioning IEEE for smaller channel sizes as the big ones are generally not needed. A 10 MHz channel of 2x2 AC would provide ~100 megabits of usable throughput. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Which I guess would be a problem if you're not already an E-Rate provider (we are). Yes, in certain states I have heard of some crazy things school district admins contacting their friends in the MSP world to come up with an e-rate service RFP (which is tailored for the MSP in mind),

[Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
Would solve some BH issues. Thanks. ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
AC gets most of it's bandwidth via some neat tricks, but primarily 80 and 160MHz wide channels. 3.65 in UBNT-land is limited to 25MHz. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 03:50 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) wrote: Would solve some BH

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Mathew Howard
I'd be more interested in a 3.65ghz airfiber at this point... From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:56 PM To: ubnt_users@wispa.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
With all 25 MHz? I mean they can only get heavy throughput with loads of spectrum :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 8:28 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'd be more interested in a 3.65ghz airfiber at

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm guessing ~100 megs HDX as that's what the PMP450 does. Not sure price wise. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
The force110 ptp is 220 megs so I'm sure the 450 meets or exceeds. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:43 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing ~100 megs HDX as that's what the PMP450 does. Not

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Mathew Howard
With a pair of 20mhz channels (or even a 10 and a 20), it would certainly be worthwhile... with 3550-3650 it would definitely make sense. If I remember correctly, PTP450 in 3.65 is pretty close to the same price as AF5... maybe a bit less. I think they claim something like 125Mbps... so yeah,

Re: [Ubnt_users] Any hope for 3.65GHz AC radios

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Up to 125 Mbps capacity - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:49:15 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users]