Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-05 Thread Rory Conaway 
We had two of the 2.4GHz Ubiquiti Omnis with issues.  One the cap on top blew 
off, bad glue.  The other one, the screws at the bottom worked their way out 
and it slid down the bracket.

Rory

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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

Interesting enough, I just had a KPP omni blow it's top. I've had a few UBNT's 
do it but this is the 1st KPP.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mat...@litewire.net<mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
For 2.4ghz omnis, we mostly use ARC wireless (but not 5ghz version - those are 
junk). We've also used some that I believe are the same as the KPP's, but I 
don't remember what the brand is off hand (several companies sell the same 
antennas) for both 5ghz and 2.4ghz.


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Which antennas do you use?

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
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(334) 595-9521

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mat...@litewire.net<mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yeah... I would replace it. You might be able to just take it apart and re-glue 
everything, but it's probably really not worth while.

I only remember having a similar failure on one, which also had the top cap 
come off - which I think is what caused the glue to fail, since the drain holes 
plugged up and it had a lot of water sitting in it. We haven't been using UBNT 
omnis for the last few years anyway, because there are cheaper alternatives 
that seem to be higher quality.

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[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???
If a rain effects things like that in 2 GHz it's well past time to replace that 
thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor 
<jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>> wrote:
Yea it is around 3-4  years old now I investigated since it seemed to take 
longer than usual for my customer signals to recover after a good rain like 
a day or so.

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>
(334) 595-9521

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Fabien 
<ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote:

I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but ours was 
still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked loose. The 
elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does not mean a broken 
circuit board or connector or something.

The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure on the 
cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out the bottom 
but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.

With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its probably 
several years old now right?

On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor" 
<jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>> wrote:
My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't pull up 
on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I don't recall 
it doing that when i installed it.
And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.  
Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and ccq 
has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago and all 
my history is gone.



Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
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(334) 595-9521

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-05 Thread RickG 
Interesting enough, I just had a KPP omni blow it's top. I've had a few
UBNT's do it but this is the 1st KPP.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:

> For 2.4ghz omnis, we mostly use ARC wireless (but not 5ghz version - those
> are junk). We've also used some that I believe are the same as the KPP's,
> but I don't remember what the brand is off hand (several companies sell the
> same antennas) for both 5ghz and 2.4ghz.
>
> --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Jonathan Taylor [jtay...@wisouth.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:15 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???
>
> Which antennas do you use?
>
> *Jonathan Taylor*
> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
> jtay...@wisouth.net
> *(334) 595-9521*
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
>> Yeah... I would replace it. You might be able to just take it apart and
>> re-glue everything, but it's probably really not worth while.
>>
>> I only remember having a similar failure on one, which also had the top
>> cap come off - which I think is what caused the glue to fail, since the
>> drain holes plugged up and it had a lot of water sitting in it. We haven't
>> been using UBNT omnis for the last few years anyway, because there are
>> cheaper alternatives that seem to be higher quality.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:17 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???
>>
>> If a rain effects things like that in 2 GHz it's well past time to
>> replace that thing.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor <jtay...@wisouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yea it is around 3-4  years old now I investigated since it seemed
>>> to take longer than usual for my customer signals to recover after a good
>>> rain like a day or so.
>>>
>>> *Jonathan Taylor*
>>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>>> *(334) 595-9521*
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but
>>>> ours was still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked
>>>> loose. The elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does
>>>> not mean a broken circuit board or connector or something.
>>>>
>>>> The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure
>>>> on the cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out
>>>> the bottom but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.
>>>>
>>>> With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its
>>>> probably several years old now right?
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor" <jtay...@wisouth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
>>>>> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
>>>>> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
>>>>> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that
>>>>> moves.  Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the
>>>>> signal and ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a 
>>>>> couple
>>>>> months ago and all my history is gone.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Jonathan Taylor*
>>>>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>>>>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>>>>> *(334) 595-9521*
>>>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Jonathan Taylor 
Which antennas do you use?

*Jonathan Taylor*
*WiSouth Networks, LLC*
jtay...@wisouth.net
*(334) 595-9521*

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:

> Yeah... I would replace it. You might be able to just take it apart and
> re-glue everything, but it's probably really not worth while.
>
> I only remember having a similar failure on one, which also had the top
> cap come off - which I think is what caused the glue to fail, since the
> drain holes plugged up and it had a lot of water sitting in it. We haven't
> been using UBNT omnis for the last few years anyway, because there are
> cheaper alternatives that seem to be higher quality.
>
> --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:17 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???
>
> If a rain effects things like that in 2 GHz it's well past time to replace
> that thing.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor <jtay...@wisouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Yea it is around 3-4  years old now I investigated since it seemed to
>> take longer than usual for my customer signals to recover after a good
>> rain like a day or so.
>>
>> *Jonathan Taylor*
>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>> *(334) 595-9521*
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but ours
>>> was still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked loose.
>>> The elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does not mean
>>> a broken circuit board or connector or something.
>>>
>>> The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure
>>> on the cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out
>>> the bottom but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.
>>>
>>> With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its
>>> probably several years old now right?
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor" <jtay...@wisouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
>>>> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
>>>> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
>>>> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that
>>>> moves.  Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the
>>>> signal and ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple
>>>> months ago and all my history is gone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Jonathan Taylor*
>>>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>>>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>>>> *(334) 595-9521*
>>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Mathew Howard 
Yeah... I would replace it. You might be able to just take it apart and re-glue 
everything, but it's probably really not worth while.

I only remember having a similar failure on one, which also had the top cap 
come off - which I think is what caused the glue to fail, since the drain holes 
plugged up and it had a lot of water sitting in it. We haven't been using UBNT 
omnis for the last few years anyway, because there are cheaper alternatives 
that seem to be higher quality.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:17 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

If a rain effects things like that in 2 GHz it's well past time to replace that 
thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor 
<jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>> wrote:
Yea it is around 3-4  years old now I investigated since it seemed to take 
longer than usual for my customer signals to recover after a good rain like 
a day or so.

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>
(334) 595-9521

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Fabien 
<ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote:

I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but ours was 
still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked loose. The 
elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does not mean a broken 
circuit board or connector or something.

The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure on the 
cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out the bottom 
but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.

With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its probably 
several years old now right?

On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor" 
<jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>> wrote:
My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't pull up 
on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I don't recall 
it doing that when i installed it.
And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.  
Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and ccq 
has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago and all 
my history is gone.



Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net<mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>
(334) 595-9521

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman 
If a rain effects things like that in 2 GHz it's well past time to replace
that thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor  wrote:

> Yea it is around 3-4  years old now I investigated since it seemed to
> take longer than usual for my customer signals to recover after a good
> rain like a day or so.
>
> *Jonathan Taylor*
> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
> jtay...@wisouth.net
> *(334) 595-9521*
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>
>> I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but ours
>> was still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked loose.
>> The elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does not mean
>> a broken circuit board or connector or something.
>>
>> The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure on
>> the cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out
>> the bottom but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.
>>
>> With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its probably
>> several years old now right?
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor"  wrote:
>>
>>> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
>>> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
>>> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
>>> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.
>>> Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and
>>> ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago
>>> and all my history is gone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jonathan Taylor*
>>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>>> *(334) 595-9521*
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Chris Fabien 
I just took one of these apart like this. I suspected a problem but ours
was still operating fine. Some of the screws in the base had worked loose.
The elements are fed by short pieces of coax so the movement does not mean
a broken circuit board or connector or something.

The faulire mode we typically have seen on these omnis is glue failure on
the cap, cap blows off and water gets into the antenna. It can drain out
the bottom but over time will corrode the elements and affect performance.

With the price of these, i wpuld probably just replace it... its probably
several years old now right?

On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor"  wrote:

> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.
> Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and
> ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago
> and all my history is gone.
>
>
>
> *Jonathan Taylor*
> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
> jtay...@wisouth.net
> *(334) 595-9521*
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman 
I've always used Kp Omni's so I don't have these problems ;)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 4, 2016 8:44 PM, "Jonathan Taylor"  wrote:

> What about rain running down the radome and buidling up inside?  I have
> never taken one of these apart so i don't know what it looks like on the
> bottom.
>
> *Jonathan Taylor*
> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
> jtay...@wisouth.net
> *(334) 595-9521*
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt it :(
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor"  wrote:
>>
>>> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
>>> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
>>> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
>>> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.
>>> Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and
>>> ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago
>>> and all my history is gone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jonathan Taylor*
>>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>>> *(334) 595-9521*
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Jonathan Taylor 
What about rain running down the radome and buidling up inside?  I have
never taken one of these apart so i don't know what it looks like on the
bottom.

*Jonathan Taylor*
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On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I seriously doubt it :(
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor"  wrote:
>
>> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
>> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
>> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
>> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.
>> Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and
>> ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago
>> and all my history is gone.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *WiSouth Networks, LLC*
>> jtay...@wisouth.net
>> *(334) 595-9521*
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman 
I seriously doubt it :(

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On Sep 4, 2016 8:34 PM, "Jonathan Taylor"  wrote:

> My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't
> pull up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I
> don't recall it doing that when i installed it.
> And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.
> Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and
> ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago
> and all my history is gone.
>
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[Ubnt_users] Bad Omni???

2016-09-04 Thread Jonathan Taylor 
My AMO-2G13 wobles back and fourth at least an inch or two i can't pull
up on it any but i can push it side to side.  Should it do this?  I don't
recall it doing that when i installed it.
And yes the mount does not move... it is the radome section that moves.
Normally i would look at air control for history to see if the signal and
ccq has gotten worse but my last AC2 update was botched a couple months ago
and all my history is gone.



*Jonathan Taylor*
*WiSouth Networks, LLC*
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*(334) 595-9521*
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