Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-04 Thread nilux
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 21:10 +0100, Conn wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Kith Intrepid is an interesting concept, but that's the problem - it's a concept. It has not developed beyond the mockup stage, and the actual mockups focus more on what would be

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-04 Thread Salane Ashcraft
Well the windows buttons would have to go, and the colors would have to be different. Ken and I discussed, along with in put from Shuttleworth, having a lighter theme and a darker theme. Mark wants to retain most o the colors from the current Human for the lighter theme... Keep on working though.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-03 Thread Vincent Moulin
Hi everyone, my first post here :) I think this is definitely the kind of colors that would suit the ubuntu desktop. Have you looked at Kith Intrepid? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid ) It is in the same tones but looks more polished and modern; nothing has been

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-03 Thread David
If we go orange again, I think that Kith Intrepid is probably the best one out there. The only trouble is that it might be a bit loud for some people. I personally love it, and have been using a setup very close to it on my own computer. If something like this could be coded in such a way as to

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 18:26:17 Ashton wrote: I'll say it again, we are testing a dark theme to find out whether it is even possible to use one or not. Getting this message out before the alpha release would have been a good idea, in retrospect. I know there is no way to avoid TehMobMind

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 14:57:23 Julian Oliver wrote: ..on or around Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 03:27:16PM +0300 SorinN wrote: regarding: See the complaints? We cannot let this happen. This theme is even worse then the default of Hardy 1. Well my question is about worse word. What is so

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Realistically speaking we won't make this the default for 8.10 anyway, unless we can fix all the many problems apps seem to have using dark themes. For now it is a test which hurts nobody during an alpha. I even question

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread SorinN
I see the comments Julian - but I have some expertize in design so I can recognize values on that kind of things - so if someone wrote something - must be true ..hmm, ...just because ???. for example if I remember well WE agreed on the past to not consider comments like : That theme is a show

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Ashton
I'll say it again, we are testing a dark theme to find out whether it is even possible to use one or not. Getting this message out before the alpha release would have been a good idea, in retrospect. I know there is no way to avoid TehMobMind over at Digg and the inevitable comments from people

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Christina Eater
Hey, list. I'm new, and chiming in for the first time here because, well, I felt challenged to. I'm not particularly technical--my background is in art--and I don't know the first thing about making a theme besides having tweaked my login screen a bit, but I do know a little about color theory and

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Dylan McCall
Alphas should absolutely be a place for playing around with ideas, testing concepts...I don't think Digg or even Ars should be given room to discourage experimentation. Some PlanetUbuntu posts might have helped. And I'm wondering about the feasibility of some kind of doc/readme, slide show,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:26:17AM -0600 Ashton wrote: I'll say it again, we are testing a dark theme to find out whether it is even possible to use one or not. Alphas should absolutely be a place for playing around with ideas, testing concepts...I don't think Digg or even

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-07-01 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:44:54PM -0400 Christina Eater wrote: Hey, list. I'm new, and chiming in for the first time here because, well, I felt challenged to. I'm not particularly technical--my background is in art--and I don't know the first thing about making a theme besides

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Bharat Varma
there will always be people who immediately oppose any change. this sort of criticism is essential to make a superior final product. i would definitely say that this is a good direction. i am not a fan of the color scheme currently used - i think the colors are too dull for a theme which demands

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Michael Stephenson
Have you actually used the theme? Your initial disgust at the colour scheme may subside if you actually used it and saw it in action, I know I love the theme. If the colour scheme isn't for you there will doubtless be many rehashes of this theme in lighter colour schemes. There is alot more to a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Mads Rosendahl
Hi I would like to suggest that a new screensaver is included in Ubuntu. Check it out here: http://thelinuxmovement.blogspot.com/2007/08/cool-ubuntu-screen-saver.html //MadsRH

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:14:41PM +0530 Bharat Varma wrote: there will always be people who immediately oppose any change. this sort of criticism is essential to make a superior final product. i would definitely say that this is a good direction. i am not a fan of the color

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 30 June 2008 06:07:29 Salane Ashcraft wrote: Hey Everyone... What's up with this? This is the dark theme that we have put in for testing. It is in no way finished, ie the testing. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Alpha_1_Screenshots See the complaints? We

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Nick Russell
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 11:15 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Monday 30 June 2008 06:07:29 Salane Ashcraft wrote: Hey Everyone... What's up with this? This is the dark theme that we have put in for testing. It is in no way finished, ie the testing.

[ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread José Luis
I've added kwii's repo and installed the themes. They are faster than the older human theme. The black theme is OK for me altought it needs work(is an alpha afterall) i.e. in firefox. The white theme is also great and the window decoration (the thin brown bar is a nice idea too). -- José Luis

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 30 June 2008 12:29:29 Nick Russell wrote: snip Rather than necessarily set up opposing 'camps' (not intrinsically a bad thing, but it can be), is it possible for people to get involved in the development of this theme? - to improve the entirely-to-be-expected early flaws. Yes, it is

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 30 June 2008 13:53:40 Nick Russell wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:35 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Monday 30 June 2008 12:29:29 Nick Russell wrote: snip Rather than necessarily set up opposing 'camps' (not intrinsically a bad thing, but it can be), is it possible for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Salane Ashcraft
This is not a progression. It isn't even that different. The problem with Ubuntu isn't the color, which has been made worse with this Alpha. Its the widget style, which is flat and outdated. Its the fonts, which need to be updated and can be done so with open source fonts. Its the icons, which

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Nick Russell
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 07:32 -0500, Salane Ashcraft wrote: This is not a progression. It isn't even that different. The problem with Ubuntu isn't the color, which has been made worse with this Alpha. Its the widget style, which is flat and outdated. Its the fonts, which need to be updated and

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 30 June 2008 14:32:19 Salane Ashcraft wrote: This is not a progression. It isn't even that different. The problem with Ubuntu isn't the color, which has been made worse with this Alpha. Its the widget style, which is flat and outdated. Its the fonts, which need to be updated and can

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Ashton
The fonts are open source (and include symbols for most languages, something that cannot be said for every oss font). We might want to switch to liberation though. The Liberation font license issue has changed, right? For the better I have read. I've been changing all Sans to Liberation Sans,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 30 June 2008 15:56:48 Ashton wrote: The fonts are open source (and include symbols for most languages, something that cannot be said for every oss font). We might want to switch to liberation though. The Liberation font license issue has changed, right? For the better I have

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Ashton
I don't mind the dark theme not that I've been using it for a while. But there are issues with things like Compiz Config Settings, where the app uses blue text, and it is mostly unreadable against the dark background. I don't know why it uses this blue in some places and not others. screenshot -

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Salane Ashcraft
OK so I vote to use the Liberation fonts at least no matter what theme, and improve the icons significantly no matter what theme. Also, I think we should maybe have some sort of voting system and a better way to get the opinions of the Ubuntu Community in general. Who votes for Liberation fonts?

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote: OK so I vote to use the Liberation fonts at least no matter what theme, and improve the icons significantly no matter what theme. This can't happen as the license doesn't pass the Debian free software guidelines test. Last I saw anyway. DejaVu would work also. Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Ashton
This can't happen as the license doesn't pass the Debian free software guidelines test. Last I saw anyway. That has changed: http://www.quantenblog.net/free-software/liberation-fonts But after a long wait and the persistent work by several people these issues have finally been settled and the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Ashton
I will have to say that is a superb background. Thanks. It is my attempt at duplicating the style I used with the heron (fela kuti) for hardy. It's up at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/AbstractIbex as a 1280x800 png. I can make some bigger if needed. I was waiting for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Conn
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to say that is a superb background. Thanks. It is my attempt at duplicating the style I used with the heron (fela kuti) for hardy. It's up at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/AbstractIbexas a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Ashton
- with a pale iris and horizontal slit-shaped pupils. I will do so. I noticed this trait in all the pics I looked at, and failed to carry it over. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Conn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to

Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 01:27:46 Ashton wrote: - with a pale iris and horizontal slit-shaped pupils. I will do so. I noticed this trait in all the pics I looked at, and failed to carry it over. Not sure if this will help or not, but here is the eye that I was working on. -- Ken attachment:

[ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-29 Thread Salane Ashcraft
Hey Everyone... What's up with this? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Alpha_1_Screenshots See the complaints? We cannot let this happen. This theme is even worse then the default of Hardy Salane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com