Just wanted to drop you all a note that I'm going to be disconnecting
from the mailing list. If someone out there feels the need to contact
me, all of my information is on Launchpad.
It has a been a long wonderful ride. Thanks to everyone.
Sincerely,
TJS
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Nick Russell wrote:
I've updated the original mockups on the wiki
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Newsplash to address
concerns/criticisms and I've added a few new ideas and variations on old
ones. I've also started a forum thread to gauge community interest in a
new usplash
Giuseppe Pennisi wrote:
I managed to create an Ubuntu Package for New Wave, it's not yet perfect
but the way is right. At the soone realise available for wiki and\or LP.
Once you have your infrastructure in place, look into the Personal
Package Archives so that your changes will get
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
For those of us following along, it would be far easier to keep up on
things if there were more descriptive subjects. So instead of 50
emails with the subject New Wave maybe just be more specific.
Nuzum, as usual, spot on.
While we are at it, I would add that _IF_ you
Seth Rattan wrote:
However, this is the first
time I've tried my hand at writing a theme, and I would appreciate
someone (not to write the theme for me) but to be available to give
pointers as I experiment.
If you have _any_ questions in relation to something you are trying to
accomplish,
Anton Kerezov wrote:
Probably it is a good idea but I'm not familiar with branches and
version control systems :(
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr
It is quite easy.
Sincerely,
TJS
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Who wrote:
Specifically the awesome Rueben theme
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Reuben?content=55876
Anyone wanting to work in this vague direction?
Reuben has many elements to like. In no particular order:
1) The linework is much closer to some notion of elegant. In
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
If you would have asked me before Hardy if something as exciting as
the heron wallpaper would be the default desktop I would have said
there's no way.
Give Kenneth Wimer _full_ marks here for getting that image in front of
the people who use Ubuntu.
If he had not put it
Bharat Varma wrote:
The visual style I have mentioned is called 'Elements' and it has 4
variations - Fire (the one you can see in the link), Water, Air and Earth.
Fire - Orange, the default visual style
Water - Blue
Air - Grey
Earth - Green
Don't you feel that this thinking is bordering
Who wrote:
Especially about colours - I
haven't done much work on this display and I want to know if it looks
too intense/yellow/dark/whatever on other people's monitors..
Greetings Whoosie! Great to see you still around.
I would encourage anyone with interest to purchase a colour
Sumit Agarwal wrote:
As I see it right
now, the wide borders reflect the very annoying hard-outlined GNOME
style icons. This is a trend that seems to be self-perpetuating for no
good reason (look at the icon sheets for Firefox 3. See the Linux set?
Why are we making new icons that look
George Brooke wrote:
Is is not possible to have a wider window border appear when your mouse
hovers near the edge of the window or would this not be possible with
current GTK/Meatacity themes?
Not possible.
The ubuntu-art crowd has grown to include a few coders however. Perhaps
one of them
Patch the code. Kludge it out when we have no other option. Let the
progression happen.
(First post here. I'd like to say hi! :D) I don't know if I'm in any
position to say this, but if you do things in a hackish way, you do
advance, but at the expense of having more and more
Denis Jacquerye wrote:
The Ubuntu Brainstorm title could definitely be improved. The letters
of the word brainstorm seems to be have ad hoc. Could it simply use
the letters from the font Ubuntu Title, available in the package
ttf-ubuntu-title, or from Ubuntu Titling. [
Dylan McCall wrote:
The notification area
exists for programs to present information about notable happenings.
That Rhythmbox is running is by no means a notable happening.
If you want to make a difference, get involved in the specifications
that matter. Most importantly -- _FILE BUGS_
Jan Niklas Hasse wrote:
GNOME Applets aren't an alternative because they are only available for
GNOME. XCFE, KDE, Windows for example use GTK+ applications, too!
So please stop blaming developers that they shouldn't use the
notification area without providing an alternative with the same
Carlos Moreno wrote:
If that's not the case in this list (that is, if this list is intended
for people to send files as attachments), please guys let me
know, in which case I would be forced to unsubscribe from
the list.
Ken - perhaps we should announce this as a rule for the list to abide
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
Attached is a png file with ideas for the panel icons. Which is better,
the etched look or the simple 2d look?
Probably not what you want to hear and repetitive - but isn't it
dependent on what the overall approach is going to aim for?
Honestly, they are both top shelf
Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:
In my opinion we need the icons to have a border, in order to make them
visible on lots of backgrounds.
Gosh.
Can we for once in this wonderfully claustrophobic land of vacuous style
and vacant design goals let go of this hideous trait?
Can we just worry about
Ken and xl (once again great effort xl):
Do you think this might be a wonderful opportunity to attempt and ease
off of the stuck-in-this-mindset conservativism by implementing a small
yet significant change to Ubuntu?
I believe this can be accomplished by making the shift to Murrine with a
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
xl cheese wrote:
If I could figure out how to make the location toolbar not use the same
toolbar gradient I think it would look better and more consistant.
Try integrating the pixmap engine and changing the class styling
for edit boxes.
There are a few good
xl cheese wrote:
In gutsy:
System - Preferences - Appearance
We need more people like you around this group, xl.
People who actually produce the hard nuts and bolts work are
a rare breed. Kudos to you.
Sincerely,
TJS
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Who wrote:
3. We shouldn't get hung up on being the default theme. We gain
freedom of design by NOT being default, and we can still reach many
people (Epiphany team doesn't stop because Firefox is deafult... Why
should we ONLY concentrate on the default theme)
With a little regular cleanup
Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
When I see a logo drawn like this like
with pencils, it gives an artistic connotation and I will expect the
website to be somehow artwork-related.
Ignore your feelings. You are beginning to fall into the
FOSS trap when it comes to art and design - the avoiding
of
Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
The bug in the Ubuntu battery is original, but the most hated part
of the message is also missing.
As proof of my last point. I'll go out on a limb and suggest
that it is a can of bug killer. *sigh*.
Sincerely,
TJS
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Nemes Ioan Sorin wrote:
Blue OR blue + green, well combined will give you a Peace of Mind
feeling [don't think a second that $MS designers are stupid].
Once again, colour psychology has been debunked 100 times
in 10 different environments. Don't even think about going
there. Look no
Andrew Laignel wrote:
Hey, I was only saying that votes are valuable in so far as to find out
what not to do and finding out what people hate is important. Neutral
doesn't have to be bland or lacking in style, it just needs to avoid
polarizing people.
And this is the exact opposite as to
julian wrote:
we need to see mockups in one place as opposed to scattered over several sites
and hidden as attachments in nests of threads:
This has been established at least thrice in my knowledge,
and at no point do people bother to tidy things up into
an organized manner.
The people who
tonic wrote:
well there is voting
one man, one vote
Hilarious. And yes, quite right.
sabdfl I suppose _does_ vote.
Sincerely,
TJS
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julian wrote:
can you list these three attempts here for the benefit of review?
To the best of my ability:
1) Roughly about Warty there was a community effort. The original
Launchpad group was created from what I can recall.
2) Around Edgy there was a pretty decent push to get people to
Andrew Laignel wrote:
Ideally
a default theme should not be even noticed by the public - being neutral
and innofensive as possible should be the goal. A perfect demonstration
of this is Apple, where the current theme for OSX is crips, clean,
stylish and probably as neutral as you can get
Justin Rogers wrote:
I have been watching for about two months now, waiting to see how I can
contribute. Who ever is leading this project, I am still uncertain, have
put very little effort into it overall. I believe we were promised some
sort of direction on the Wiki like a month ago. At this
Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
- Two banners, one for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming part, and one for
the Ubuntu most hated bug tracker.
Here is a really quick knock off for the 'yet-to-be-named'
idea site.
Sincerely,
TJS
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Amazing work!
Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
The QA team and I have been developing the future Ubuntu idea
brainstorming website, codenamed tokamak (cf blueprint [1]). Another
separate module will also track the most hated bug by allowing to vote
for them. The website is beginning to mature, and
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Thorsten Wilms wrote:
For projects taking 4 months max, the time you can spend worrying about
your target audience is quite limited.
Perhaps ignoring the time constraints is worthy? Maybe get the 'broad'
strokes in place then finesse in the
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Damian Vila wrote:
And Ubuntu won't be brown, that's for sure.
I wonder if the trend toward eco friendly products could
be embraced by a very 'earthy' feeling operating system.
(Well 'earthy' in the 'idea', not the presentation)
Unbleached CD
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Thorsten Wilms wrote:
Having a clearly defined target audience would be of advantage. But I
have to say that during my industrial design studies, this part was
mostly guesswork.
Then you didn't go to a very good school or for long enough.
We
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Henning Ludeke wrote:
Let me know if there's a need for research or contributions from a
theoretical (visual arts theory) perspective,
or if there are other art theorists on the list.
I want to see Ubuntu making a serious statement on next
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Greetings all.
An art director / designer associate of mine has graciously
accepted an invitation for an interview. His name is
Andrew Menzies ( http://imdb.com/name/nm0579980/ ). He
is formally trained in Architectural design and has extended
his
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xl cheese wrote:
I thought is was a good use of brown.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2620273#post2620273
Seriously folks, look at the details on this:
1) It is completely devoid of any concept or goal.
2) It resorts to the already
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Matthew Nuzum wrote:
Still, I've seen artists do this by eye and come up
with spectacular results that make any auto-generated theme look
calculated and mathematical.
Rather spot on. That said, at least understanding
how some basic colour theory
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julian wrote:
1 - we don't need desktops that demand to be noticed. we need
desktops that look and feel great to /use/.
2 - they must be easy on the eye for sustained periods of use.
I wish I was as certain in this world as you are.
What does
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julian wrote:
..on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Özgür BASKIN wrote:
+1 for elephant-skin picture :)
i think the cleanest themes are those that simply don't a) try to make a
strong artistic statement and b) don't try to bring the
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Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done a
handful dark themes myself, but they always end up with small glitches
here and there because not all apps are designed to respect the theme
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Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done a
handful dark themes myself, but they always end up with small glitches
here and there because not all apps are designed to respect the theme
100%
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During the Edgy
cycle we tried a more open, community approach to the artwork and it failed
miserably.
I see this pop up from time to time, and I would like once again to
address it.
First, some people push hard for changes and some wriggle
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Andreas Nilsson wrote:
A bike shed on the other hand. Anyone can build one of those over a
weekend, and still have time to watch the game on TV. So no matter how
well prepared, no matter how reasonable you are with your proposal,
somebody will
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
How did you create those parallel curved lines? That's an interesting
technique and I can't think of any easy way to do that.
Deadly easy.
1) Make a spline in Inkscape.
2) Duplicate it and paste in place using Ctl-Alt-V.
3) Spread out the duplicate along an axis -- use Ctl
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Kenneth Wimer wrote:
Hi all,
As seen in these screens:
http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
It is possible to have a nice blur around the text to help it stand out when
overlayed and transparent.
Anyone
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However, I am asking
permission from the list to simply delete them all, and start anew.
Opinions would be appreciated.
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
As one can simply join the team and post to the list I think it would be fine
to simply delete all the
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Alexander van Loon wrote:
1. The Human iconset is not complete, less complete than Tango for
example.
2. Currently the Tango/GNOME and Human iconset are being mixed.
3. There are no style guidelines or color palette for the Human
iconset.
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Kenneth Wimer wrote:
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 19:37:20 Zach Rattner wrote:
Hi,
I am interested in helping the development of Blubuntu. Would a new font
scheme be possible? Everything else about Ubuntu is easily customizable,
but the fonts
Alexander van Loon wrote:
Besides that, is there anyone who prefers the Human iconset over
Tangerine? The Human icons don't look professional at all, it looks
blurry and ugly. From what I understand from previous posts on the
mailing list, the only reason the Human iconset was created
Ravi Shanker wrote:
Whatever one says or gives opinion is just personal. You can't say
anything without your personal analysis and thoughts. Its what human
thinks and express. Everything is personal friend. You can't go
universal saying anything.
His personal opinion is this means a person
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I just wanted to say that it is a pleasant experience to see interest
popping up at the thought of a community theme.
On a side note, here is a very good read to anyone interested in art
and design from a person who is one of the top in their field.
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Simon Hough wrote:
Another point to maybe mention, since it has been leaked that Dell will
be using Ubuntu on new PC`s sold
will there still be the same community involvement?
What is discussed in this thread is a community theme. There has been
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Ryan Pavlik wrote:
I find the same problem with the burning idea, and suspect it may not
internationalize/localize well. Perhaps using the lightburst design
from the Tango new icons combined with some of these other ideas may
provide a more
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Well we certainly aren't the '300' but we hit 305 members! That is a
_lot_ of interest in Ubuntu artwork and design related matters.
As a fun marker, and after having the ISO testing guys request some
work, how about we do a little ditty up for
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For those who are interested, there are a couple of new polls set up to
get a grasp on our swelling membership numbers.
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art/+polls
Sincerely,
TJS
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jmak wrote:
Don't forget that color is not only
a matter of aesthetics but it is a usability issue as well. There are
plenty of info on the net about the effects of color on human
psychology. Research the subject to see what I mean.
I can't
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jmak wrote:
I wrote:
Colours are _culturally_ and _temporally_ rooted in meaning. Look to
the colours of traditional wedding wear in Japan or different parts of
tribal Africa for examples of cultural meaning. Look to the tonal
differences
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Here is a Humanized offering of the arrow suggestion from Yann, along
with the newer Apport notification icon and the existing Warning
dialog icon.
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Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
*Really* like the arrows, the orange one suits me better but I could
live with the red one too.
Ken?
Should be Humanized though shouldn't it?
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David Prieto wrote:
Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
proportions?
Incorrect.
Monitors fall into a vast array of aspect ratio and resolutions.
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Alex Jones wrote:
We could re-use the icon that's used for the Force Quit GNOME Panel
applet, the picture of a window with a big crack down it. I think that
signifies broken program as well as anything else could.
This is heading down the route
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Donn wrote:
From a practical integration element -- it also must _readily_ fit
into the the Human scheme. At the very least, it should be based
on the Human warning type symbols. (Yet another reason we need DESIGN
guidelines for Human.)
Have
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Jean Pierre Rupp wrote:
In short, we should make the artwork based on the concepts, and not the
words.
In short, concepts are culturally based.
The idea of locale-based icons is great, but of course it would be a
huge task to undertake for
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Étienne Bersac wrote:
Also, who made this artwork ? Is ubuntu-art only a place to comment new
artwork ;) ? It feel like we forgot to plan community themes :|
kwwii -- Ken, created the new art.
You should know by now Et, don't expect planning.
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Donn wrote:
I just did this to get the idea out of my head. It doesn't scale well, but
what the hell.
Wow. Yet more proof that our little artwork community is filled with
some damn talented folks.
Do you have formal training?
It would
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Do we have any metaphors that seem appropriate?
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
There is an open request for Apport icons.
Apport needs icons for various purposes:
- panel tray if a crash happened while the user wasn't logged in, or
a system process
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Emir Beganovi? wrote:
P.S. icons which I've made are 48x48 but files has suffix 16 (means 16
pixels). eog and GIMP show the icons OK, but shouldn't those icons be
scaled to 16x16?
Great work Emir. I think I see a few issues:
1. If this is
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I'll make SVG and file a bug with Malone. How do you mean this by 'hazy
gloss needs to be customized for each icon? Is there any SVG available
so I can just rotate it by 90, 180 and 270 degrees?
Yes there are in /usr/share/icons/Human/scalable
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Greetings to everyone on the list...
Over the past while you might have noticed a little bit of activity on
the 'bugs' assigned to the 'ubuntu-art' project team.
The bugs provided there are the byproduct of a massive amount of work
and energy on the
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Matthew Nuzum wrote:
How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...
+1 brilliant
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Frank Schoep wrote:
On top of this, and this is just a wild guess like anyone else's, I
think the big idea is to have Feisty's final artwork integrated from
the start on. I'm talking about at least the wallpaper and possibly
the GDM theme,
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:05 +0100, Mirco Müller wrote:
Ok. I've learned that Mark has the final word on what goes in and what
does not visual appeal-wise.
The spec shows screenshots against a black background. I hope Mark is
coordinating that design of the default GDM with the default
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 22:15 +0100, Mirco Müller wrote:
I tried to keep the visual gap between usplash and gdm (for the case
of the face-browser, which is planned to be on by default for feisty) as
small as possible. But if there are any non-obvious things in the pipe
for feisty in the
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 19:09 +0100, Daniel Holbach wrote:
Apart from that, I'd like to drop the individual themes from
ubuntu-artwork. gray-theme, industrialtango-theme, legacyhuman-theme,
outdoors-theme, resilience-theme, silicon-theme have been part of
Ubuntu's default for 2 releases now and
* Moved the package related documents that recently landed on the wiki
to the /Documentation section.
* Updated documentation root page to reflect changes and more clearly
explain what the package subpages are for.
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On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 16:29 +0100, Who wrote:
These fix those issues in a few ways
As I have always said -- your work is pretty
incredible Who. Although I fundamentally
disagree with the design decision to put
the dual curve into the logo, your work
is the most standout by far.
In particular,
On Mon, 2006-09-10 at 17:58 +0200, Frank Schoep wrote:
We created this short sound to prevent it from being cut off. On fast
systems, only the first few seconds of the sound are played. See this
bug on Launchpad:
https://launchpad.net/bugs/61530
Doesn't that make the rather massive
New sources for anyone who needs a starting
point.
If we expect a wallpaper, we need to decide
on the tones for the GDM.
Sincerely,
TJS
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Incoming/LastMinuteRush
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tenant -- let the people have the source
of the work:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/LetTheGodsBeHappy
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On Tue, 2006-26-09 at 15:36 +0200, David Prieto wrote:
You can see how the proposed cancel icon is a red cross just like the
current one, only beautiful. And the apply button is a green tick just
like the one we have one, so the metaphors really stay the same.
My only concern with the two
On Tue, 2006-26-09 at 11:38 +0200, Julian Oliver wrote:
..on Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 01:13:29PM +0200, Andreas Haller wrote:
Hi,
i just saw the new Wallpaper for Edgy Knot3
(http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot3) and wanted to tell you that the
cross on the left side reminded me of the
On Wed, 2006-13-09 at 21:33 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote:
I just don't like the glossy unity in SuSE and Fedora Core.
A tad 90's would be a good way to describe it.
Vista is well on its way to releasing itself right
into that has-been pile.
Both Apple and Microsoft have built their market
around
On Tue, 2006-12-09 at 17:03 +1000, Jasper Schalken wrote:
I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown, it's lumpy,
and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a pleasant
combination :P.
Yikes. There is another version without the dappling here:
Ok folks -- we are almost there!
First I would like to thank everyone
on this list -- it has been a tremendous ride.
Plenty of learning for everyone I am certain!
Now onto the nitty gritty.
Currently, because of our slight blip in development
while approval was sought, our Produce phase sort of
On Sun, 2006-10-09 at 09:04 +0200, PingunZ wrote:
That's most people agree that we just need a background image, no
tansparancy.
Still, we are left with certain buttons and such not abiding by the
background texture / colour.
This is fundamentally more problematic than the actual change --
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 10:43 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
I far prefer the semi-transparent panel idea that someone posted a
little while ago. I think the Panel should have a very distinctive
look, and not be Grey at all! That goes for the Panel menu items as
well as the Panel itself.
On Fri, 2006-08-09 at 15:50 +0200, Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:
I was looking to my ubuntu panel on Dapper and I think that the gray
plain background doesn't have the same style that the human theme.
I think we are all with you in agreement. Once the palette
is settled down and published, I
On Thu, 2006-07-09 at 12:13 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
Thanks for the progress update, I hope we're able to properly work
around feature freeze limitations on the artwork for usplash.
Given that there is no artwork at all yet for usplash and noone wants to
see the testcard in the
On Thu, 2006-07-09 at 14:37 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:
I would like that too, but a background might not work well for the
same reasons it couldn't be anything other than black in the old
usplash.
Op 7-sep-2006, om 14:33 heeft Álvaro Medina Ballester het volgende
geschreven:
On Mon, 2006-04-09 at 18:10 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
On ma, 2006-09-04 at 17:21 +0200, PingunZ wrote:
Maybe it would be better if the forum just replaced the wiki+ML, not
launchpad ?
Please no, a wiki isn't a discussion medium -- which is a good thing for
artwork.
Agree with
On Mon, 2006-04-09 at 22:24 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote:
Do people know that the mailing list has a web-interface too?
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.artwork
(It also has Usenet and RSS interfaces there.)
Thanks to the great tips that Jan has offered here over
the past few posts, I
Please note the schedule archived here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/
This has been the schedule since the beginning of the
cycle, and we must stick to it as the rest of the development
team is in sync with those dates.
September 7th is the final deadline for all
On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 10:17 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:
Mich -- do you think you could bang out a similar
animation with a 'spotlight' approach? Basically,
it would be almost identical to what you have there
save a more focused circular light illuminating the
Ubuntu logo as it rolls
On Tue, 2006-29-08 at 13:24 +0100, Who wrote:
I think using a background that is okay for scaling - say something
abstract, and then putting the logo etc as boxes on top should help -
no?
Yes. I can live with scaling of the background.
The boxes technique seems to be the key, but it
needs
If you browse to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/
you can see the fresh work coming in.
Thank you to everyone who is posting their
effort. I am very impressed with that page thus
far.
Sincerely,
TJS
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