This is what it looks like in virtualbox. It seems no problem with
chrome when using the latest package as well.
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Here is the screenshot within virtualbox, without extras.
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This is the screenshot within virtualbox, with extras.
They appeared to be the same, and the weight of the CJK characters is
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Using subset OTFs is suggested for OS exept MacOS and Windows by the
README file from Source Han Sans (same as Noto Sans CJK).
However, as I stated previously, I believe using Super OTC is a way to
find where the apps in Linux world which has some problems dealing with
this "super font," and that
I support to specify font weight directly in fontconfig.
And It is OK to specify which font you want including font weight, so I
think it is a normal usage case not a workaround anyway.
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According to the README pdf file (https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-
han-sans/raw/release/SourceHanSansReadMe.pdf) of Adobe Source Han Sans,
and the experience within LibreOffice, I have to say that Super OTC file
is not well supported in Linux desktop.
It is suggested using Regional Subset
Fedora 21 only applies Adobe Source Han Sans / Noto Sans CJK to Chinese
locale (zh_CN and zh_TW).
Fedora does not use 69-language-selectors-*.conf because they only set
one major font for one locale, and they write the relevant configuration
in the corresponding fontconfig fille for the major
Hi,
I just tested Vivid Beta2 for zh_TW locale. Here are some inputs:
1. After fresh installation, there is no traditional Chinese input
method installed by default. However, we expect to have fcitx-chewing
installed after the installation process by default.
It is not that intuitive for users
OK, after I removed fonts-droid package and installed those testing
packages and configurations which using Droid Sans Fallback instead of
Droid Sans today, everything seems to be good. Below are my testing
results,
LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 fc-match -s Droid Sans | head -n 10
DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf:
I don't know why the configuration provided by fonts-droid package makes
fontconfig match UMing first as Droid Sans Fallback. That is so weird.
Howver, removing fonts-droid eliminates the problem succesefully.
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However, if I change Droid Sans to Droid Sans Fallback, and I can
get sas-serif as Droid Sans Fallback although it is still different
from yours.
$ LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 fc-match -a 'sans-serif' | head -n 20
DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf: Droid Sans Fallback Regular
uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light
Hi Gunnar,
I just installed ubuntu 14.04.1 today. :)
However, in my system, the output of the fc-match is
$ LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 fc-match 'sans-serif'
DroidSans.ttf: Droid Sans Regular
and the sorted matching font list is
$ LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 fc-match -s 'sans-serif'
DroidSans.ttf: Droid Sans
No, I don't have any other fontconfig configuration files because this
is a fresh installation and a new user. I have enabled all updates-repo
and done 'apt-get upgrade'.
That's strange we don't have the same results!
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I support Noto Sans CJK or Source Han Sans (they share the same content
of CJK part, while Adobe holds the copyright, licensed under Apache v2)
regular style for default CJK displaying.
That is absolutely better than Droid Sans Fallback because it takes care
of various region-specif shapes well
OK, I will try to figure out which configuration play a big role to list
AR PL UMing as the first one in serif style when I am free, and then
file another bug report for that issue. It might around Chinese new year
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@fourdolars:
I agree with the part helping the development of CJKUnifonts. However, it is no
sense to use AR PL UMing for all styles as AR PL UMing is a serif style font
and can only be used in serif part. BTW, the configuration is using AR PL UMing
now.
So the issue here is which font we
Your suggestion will create another issue on typography that ubuntu font
is sans-serif style while AR PL UMing and CNS11643 are serif style.
Plus, AR PL UMing covers more characters than cwTeX and MOE, there is
low probability fallbacking to them.
And we have already been using AR PL UMing for
I don't actually get what you mean here. But I guess that you are
talking about it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL
UMing for serif font family.
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not affect the result about serif
font family strongly. It is always using AR PL UMing first
@fourdollars Actually, CJKUnifonts (AR PL UMing and AR PL UKai) do not
follow Taiwan standard too. That's because they both were composed of
Traditional style and Simplified style fonts before.
AR PL UMing is compoesed of 文鼎細上海宋繁 and 文鼎報宋簡 while AR PL UKai is
composed of 文鼎中楷繁 and 文鼎中楷簡.
For
Could we start the MIP for fonts-droid these days to finish this issue?
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro hei back with
I think that the changes you made are right.
I STRONGLY recommend fonts-droid instead of wqy-microhei because
WenQuanYi project is not having any major progress or new releases in
last three years. Plus, wqy-microhei fail to display Korean characters.
It is not solved for some years since the day
Hi, could anyone who could fix or improve the configurations review my
proposal?
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please change wenquanyi micro hei back with
After my testing, the good news is that insatalling fonts-droid will
provide better visual appearence and more readible than WQY zen-hei in
Chinese charaters.
However, 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf has a weird UNACCEPTABLE side
effect. It matches DejaVu Serif for sans-serif and monospace
** Patch removed: this is the patch to make WenQuanYi Micro Hei back to zh-tw
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I will check that if the -zh-tw.conf provided in raring (which put Droid
Sans Fallback into first one) works fine or not if we install Droid Sans
Fallback recently.
Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional
Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese?
Another way to improve the unreadible Chinese characters is to install
Droid Sans Fallback and use it instead of WenQuanYi Zen Hei.
The reason to use Droid Sans Fallback instead of WenQaun Yi Micro Hei is
that WenQuanYi almostly stopped the development progress for about three
years while Droid
@Laney: I just spent some time checking what is changed with those
fontconfig files.
I found that Micro Hei related config listed in 69-language-selector-zh-
tw.conf before raring is merged into 65-ttf-wqy-microhei.conf. Those
binding things listed at the last part of the conf are outdated and
** Summary changed:
- please add wenquanyi micro hei settings back with
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
+ please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
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I think that my title is not well described and does not fit my idea
well, so I change that.
Maybe that mislead readers to think that I was asking to add those
outdated settings about Micro Hei back in language-selector confs, but
that's not. To be clear, I just want to make Micro Hei back as the
Well, in Chinese reader's eyes, it is much more readible and pretty for
WQY Micro Hei than WQY Zen Hei.
The strokes of each character provided by WQY Zen Hei are firstly
compozed by programs, then those strokes later adjusted by manual as it
is not that readible. WQY Micro Hei is derived from
** Description changed:
- In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuenYi Micro Hei as
+ In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as
default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the
- default font is set to WenQuenYi Zen Hei in 0.110
** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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please add wenquanyi micro hei settings back with 69-language-
Public bug reported:
In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuenYi Micro Hei as
default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the
default font is set to WenQuenYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by
Raring.
It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional)
** Summary changed:
- please add wenquenyi micro hei settings back with
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
+ please add wenquanyi micro hei settings back with
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
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The string Taiwan, province of China in zh_TW locale has been
translated as 臺灣 (which means Taiwan) for years in this case.
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Taiwan
It is comfirmed with fresh Ubuntu and Xubuntu 12.04 LTS installaiton.
The problem is not solved yet. :S
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language-selector doesn't
There is a user reported that even installed fresh Ubuntu 12.04 LTS,
this bug still exists. I will comfirm it recently.
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language-selector
Hi David,
I think it is still better to keep this bug in order to make sure all
installer-indusing issues be fixed together.
However, if my idea does not fit the purpose of bug tracker, I agree to close
this bug.
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It seems to be fixed on Precise Beta1.
I tested it today both with i386 and amd64 iso.
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Title:
Localized Chinese date formats not displayed
不管 libreoffice 的版本多少都會掛掉的。
你只要一直打「是」就會讓 libreoffice 掛掉，即使是 libreoffice dev 3.5 Beta2 也一樣。
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LibreOffice crashed after typing a few
No matter the version of libreoffice is, keeping inputing ㄕˋ (是) will
crash libreoffice, even though LibreOffice Dev3.5 Beta2.
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Does it related to broken /etc/default/locale generated which is bug
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Title:
language-selector doesn't automatically link fontconfig
Public bug reported:
Series: yes
Reproduce Steps:
1. Use Chinese (Traditional) as installer language to install Ubuntu with live
media (For example, i386.iso live CD)
Expected Result:
You have 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf file on your system, and your Chinese
characters are showed with WQY
** Summary changed:
- String show as [invalid UTF-8]
+ Authentication String show as [invalid UTF-8]
** Description changed:
- I have tried to install extra driver (for VirtualBox) with oneiric pre-
- release installation.
+ Series: yes
- When it prompts Authentication dialogue, there is a
Public bug reported:
Series: yes
Reproduce Steps:
1. When Live CD promts Keyboard = Human, press any key to select language
(Install with live media, ie. i386.iso live CD)
2. Choose 中文(繁體)
3. Choose the second option, 安裝 Ubuntu (Install Ubuntu), and press Enter
4. Finish the installation
The l10n problems met are filed in separate bugs to clarify the
problems.
locale date format are not displayed properly after installation Bug #877629
Authentication String show as [invalid UTF-8] Bug #870745
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not available after installation Bug
#877620
I
This bug is caused by ubiquity installer. Please see Bug #870696 for
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Title:
String show as [invalid UTF-8]
To manage
** Description changed:
- Some strings are has translated before the non-langpack deadline 9/29,
- but still not loaded at pre-release installation.
+ Some strings has been translated, but still not loaded at installation
+ process if you select 中文 (繁體) as your language before going to the
+
After a partly translation showed installation (tested in amd64.iso) ,
major l10n problems met:
1. Chinese characters are not showed properly in some programs, for example,
date and time indicater:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/6250043183_0ed34cc576.jpg
2. The string of authentication
Below are the details to get a partially showed translation or a fully
showed translation for ubiquity.
Steps to reproduce a partly showed translation:
1. When Live CD promts Keyboard = Human, press any key to select language
2. Choose 中文(繁體)
3. Choose the second option, 安裝 Ubuntu (Install
The newest amd.iso (20111012) is also affected.
** Summary changed:
- Oneiric pre-release i386.iso ubiquity does not load all the translations
+ Oneiric pre-release ubiquity does not load all the translations
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Well, I tested 20111012 for i386.iso and amd64.iso today.
I found out that if you select language at the boot, you will get a
partially translated interface which not all translations are loaded.
However, if you select nothing and wait for ubuntu enters itself or you
use English first to Install,
Installer should detect a suitable local server, and use that for
updating.
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Title:
Taiwan server is broken and Download updates while installing
Public bug reported:
Some strings are has translated before the non-langpack deadline 9/29,
but still not loaded at pre-release installation.
For example, in the Chinese (Traditional) language installation, has at
least {SIZE} available drive space, the whole content in In
Installation type
** Attachment added: has at least {SIZE} available drive space not showed in
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** Attachment added: The whole content in Installation type section is not
loaded.
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** Attachment added: Erase disk and install Ubuntu translation not loaded.
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** Summary changed:
- ubiquity does not load all the tranlsations
+ Oneiric pre-release ubiquity does not load all the tranlsations
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Title:
Public bug reported:
I'm testing Installation Full Network Support CJK Input for pre-
release iso. I have ckecked Download updates while installing before
installation.
Two problems met:
1. Taiwan server listed in Software Sources is broken, the installation seems
to use Taiwan server and
** Attachment added: [invalid UTF-8] showed instead of a string
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Public bug reported:
I have tried to install extra driver (for VirtualBox) with oneiric pre-
release installation.
When it prompts Authentication dialogue, there is a string showing
[Invalid UTF-8]. As attackment.
** Affects: jockey (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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** Summary changed:
- Oneiric pre-release ubiquity does not load all the tranlsations
+ Oneiric pre-release i386.iso ubiquity does not load all the tranlsations
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Public bug reported:
I check the software-center package, and find out that zh_TW.po file is
not included in po directory. Please include it.
I download the source tar at link below:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/software-center
** Affects: software-center (Ubuntu)
Public bug reported:
software-center package in Oneiric deliver /usr/share/locale-
langpack/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/software-center.mo, and it does have the
zh_TW translation for Accessories, Education, Games, Graphics,
Internet, Office, etc.
These strings are main categories of applications, they are
** Attachment added: Some categories does not showed in translated form
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Public bug reported:
Although strings are fully translated, jockey only display the head part
of the translation.
For example,
Translation of
需要安裝此驅動程式以完全釋放 NVIDIA 顯示卡的 3D 效能，以及新版顯示卡的 2D 加速能力。\n
\n
若您希望使用 Unity 桌面、希望啟用桌面特效，或是希望執行需要 3D 加速功能的軟體 (例如某些遊戲) 的話，您需要安裝此驅動程式。
is cut into
** Attachment added: part of the translation for the driver description is
cut.
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Related information from a Japanese user: http://ankyo.blog.so-
net.ne.jp/2011-09-09
Hope this information could help fix this bug sooner.
The content is translated below:
[Ubuntu] User Menu of Login Screen (unity-greeter 0.0.5) Shows Mojibake
(Squares) (Temp Solution Provided)
I am using the
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lightdm shows Chinese translations as □ (square)
To manage notifications
** Summary changed:
- Message 28 of translation template has duplicated 3
+ A message of translation template has duplicated 3 and another typo.
** Description changed:
- Message 28 of translation template is below:
+ The message having duplicated 3. of translation template is below:
Public bug reported:
I have installed 11.10 beta, and enabled oneiric-proposed repository to
get the newest translation.
After update, we have some Chinese characters in Lightdm interface.
For example, 其他... (Other...). However, Lightdm shows □□... instead.
I think this is a release-blocker
** Attachment added: Chinese characters are showed as squares
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Public bug reported:
Message 28 of translation template is below:
Bluetooth browse files procedure: 1.- Enable bluetooth on any mobile
device (PDA, smartphone, etc.) 2.- Click on the bluetooth icon in the
menu bar 3.- Select 'Setup new device' 3.- Look for the device in the
list and select it
Please fix the translation for zh_TW.
We are not zn_TW actually.
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Title:
Menu of Draw in zh_TW translation is not included in Natty
To manage
I I have did what you writed at #56.
After locale-gen, system returned zh_TW.BIG5... ???
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive: ? failed.
Although it said that it failed, I still can run LANG=zh_TW evince 040216.pdf
successfully.
The output result is the same with #55. The difference
Bug #720716 has been closed, although I report Draw of zh_TW still gets
wrong.
I tested the proposed repository, zh_TW is still zn_TW now.
Can you help with that, Gabor?
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I tested LANG=zh_TW.big5 evince 040216.pdf on my ubuntu 11.04 in
Virttualbox.
All the settings are default, no edit.
Test result:
Page 1, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/6074457463/in/photostream
Page 2, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/6074457465/in/photostream
The output
After poppler-data installed, the result is diffirent, see below.
Test result:
Page 1, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/6075067018/in/photostream
Page 2, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/6075067014/in/photostream
The output of 'fc-match 細明體' is the same.
PS. I do not have
Hi everyone.
The Math desktop file for zh_TW has not been fixed yet. Because zh-TW is
typo as zn-TW!
Gabor Kelemen (kelemeng) asked me to report problem here instead of Bug
#774020.
However, this bug has been marked as Fix Released. And in fact, it is
not.
Could anyone help with Chinese
OK, it is fixed. Feedback is reported there.
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LibreOffice Math menu translation incomplete
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Hi, Clint!
Draw of zh-TW still not fixed in proposed repository.
Because zh-TW is typo as zn-TW! Please fix that! Thanks! :)
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Plus, Math of zh-TW is fixed now. Thank you! (bug 774024)
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The Name tiltle is composed of Brand name + Product name. We translators
cannot translate both of them.
Plus, there is already Generic Name which is translated to 文書處理器 in desktop
file.
I don't know if it is appropriate to append something else for Name
entry in desktop file or not; it needs
After investigation, there are some desktop files use Product name +
Generic name for Name entry already.
For example, Tomboy Notes, Firefox Browser and Shotwell Photo
Manager. So I think that is it better that the Name entry be Writer
Word Processer? (according to Mozilla Firefox = Firefox
However, this should be done/solved on Deskop file side, but not
translation side. Maybe a bug report for LibreOffice series desktop
files is better?
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It is fixed in 11.04.
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Yes, It is kind of late to arrive with Natty.
I accept that the improved file released after Natty release.
BTW, comments are always welcome.
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This is the diff file.
** Patch added: Diff Between Current Setting and
SelectChineseFontFirst+LatinFontsBinding
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Thanks for your hard work, too! :)
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Status: Triaged = Invalid
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Translated String (zh_TW) Not Showed within aptdaemon
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To Hsin-Yi, Chen (hychen):
Test without Chinese (Taiwan) translation is OK. But I don't think you
have to test in LANG=C, because this file should only be provided to the
users who choose to use Chinese (Traditional) support in Language
support. (Or maybe I am wrong?!)
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Case 1: File Manager display
Result: the same
Screenshot for current setting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/5567004925/
Screenshot for proposed setting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/5567588444/
Case 2: evince with a test PDF
Result: neither has the correct output
Screenshot
Test Case 1:
1. use the setting you would like to test
2. open File Manager
3. take a screenshot
Test Case 2:
1. get the test.pdf
2. use the setting you would like to test
3. open test.pdf in evince
4. take a screenshot
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** Description changed:
Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin
fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only
installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
DejaVu is a high
I have installed poppler-data before the test case.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/713950
Title:
Improvement for zh-tw fontconfig settings of language-selector
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ubuntu-bugs
Nope, I am not talking about the compatibility. Actually Hsin-Yi Chen
(hychen) talks it in #16.
The bugs are still valid (programs showing squares) even we use a better
configuration. (you can see http://www.ubuntu-
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