[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2007-02-28 Thread Adam Lindberg
Usability is, for me, broken since it takes a lot longer to scan the Nautilus context menu with this name, looking for a way to delete files. Trash or similar is recognized quicker. -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-16 Thread Tom Harris
I think Joachim has summed up the problem pretty well in this one sentence: In changing the 'Trash/Delete' concept to 'Delete/Permanently Delete' you're not translating the interface, you are redesigning it, and that isn't your job. The attached icon is a Dustbin, a Wastebasket, heck you could

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-13 Thread Joachim Noreiko
Sridhar, Consistency across the desktop is a very good thing to aim for. Adopting an existing term instead of pulling a new one out of a hat is also a very good idea. However, the existing term you've picked is not satisfactory. Users may be aware of what it means to delete a file, but anyone

Re: [Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-12 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 18:59 +, Tom Harris wrote: I've looked through the mailing list archives, and it seems this change was decided on a poll of 18 people (14 voting for Deleted Items). Hardly an impressive sample size, and only translators could vote not users. What's more I couldn't

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-12 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Joachim Noreiko wrote: I find mailing list archives near-impossible to read. It is the preferred means of communication for our Team, and Team members are expected to be subscribed to it. You may feel more comfortable interacting with the list through Gmane [1]. Note that some of our older

Re: [Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-12 Thread Nick
On Monday 11 December 2006 12:43, rockbadger wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 12:17 +, Ben Goodger wrote: On 11/12/06, Roger Light [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd agree that Deleted items folder isn't the best solution, especially in the example given, but on the other hand as someone who

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Roger Light
I'd agree that Deleted items folder isn't the best solution, especially in the example given, but on the other hand as someone who lives in England I'm pretty certain that I've never once said wastebasket. In my opinion the correct term should be Rubbish bin. -- Deleted items folder name doesn't

Re: [Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Ben Goodger
On 11/12/06, Roger Light [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd agree that Deleted items folder isn't the best solution, especially in the example given, but on the other hand as someone who lives in England I'm pretty certain that I've never once said wastebasket. In my opinion the correct term should

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
This is not a bug. The change in nomenclature was a decision made after careful debate on the ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list. This discussion weighed a range of factors, including but not exclusive to the ones which have been mentioned here. Please do not unilaterally try to change the policy of

Re: [Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread rockbadger
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 12:17 +, Ben Goodger wrote: On 11/12/06, Roger Light [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd agree that Deleted items folder isn't the best solution, especially in the example given, but on the other hand as someone who lives in England I'm pretty certain that I've never

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
** Changed in: language-pack-gnome-en-base (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Bruce Cowan
To be honest, I am in the team and have been against Deleted Items folder ever since it became policy. 1. It's long winded. 2. It is not used in the real world 3. The capitalisation seems odd. Mind you, I can't think of anything better than this, but Wastebasket seemed fine, and they say If it

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I'm not hugely bothered what it's changed *to* -- I picked 'Wastebasket' because it's what Macs used to use before OS X. 'Deleted Items folder' is wordy and cumbersome, but the worst problem with it is that it completely breaks the trash metaphor: objects in the trash are not deleted, they are in

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Tom Harris
P.S. How about Dustbin? -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Tom Harris
I really have three main issues with Deleted Items. 1. It's a bit long and cumbersome (not the end of the world). 2. It's an oxymoron. You can't have a folder of Deleted Items. 3. Attached is the pop-up for when you press shift-delete (to delete a file, rather than move it to the Wastebasket as

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Tom and Joachim, Your comments are all valid, and they were raised several months ago on the mailing list, along with many other points which you are likely unaware of. Again, please read our archive [1] and read about our reasoning before re-opening old debates. If you still feel strongly about

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I find mailing list archives near-impossible to read. I've made my point as clearly as I can: Deleted items causes the Trash interface to make no sense. I don't see what reasons can trump that. It doesn't seem to me like there's much point in me joining the list. -- Deleted items folder name

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Tom Harris
I have read the list, as I said above... I've looked through the mailing list archives, and it seems this change was decided on a poll of 18 people (14 voting for Deleted Items). Hardly an impressive sample size, and only translators could vote not users. What's more I couldn't find the reasoning

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-11-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug. What version of Ubuntu and locale do you use? That looks like a translation bug ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Unconfirmed = Needs Info -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-11-25 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I'm using Edgy. I don't know how to find out what locale I am using, but when I first set up I would have set my location to United Kingdom. -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-11-25 Thread Tom Harris
Same here. Seems to be a British English translation problem. Slightly off-topic, but how does Rosetta work? For instance if I were to find and fix this string, would that be applied in an update at some point? -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304 --

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-11-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
rosetta export translations which are used to produce updated language packs, if you fix it on rosetta it'll be fixed with next upload ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: nautilus = language-pack-gnome-en-base Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs = Ubuntu English (United Kingdom)

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-11-25 Thread Tom Harris
I can't work out Rosetta so I'll leave someone else to do it. According to the UK translation team Deleted Items is the preferred nomenclature (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation/WordSubstitution), however I don't think it is suitable. For a start, it loses the real-world metaphor, and is

[Bug 72304] Re: Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense

2006-11-19 Thread Tom Harris
I was just about to file the same bug. Does anyone know why this was even changed? What was wrong with Wastebasket? -- Deleted items folder name doesn't make sense https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com