[Bug 1455097] Re: /etc/pm/sleep.d/ is no more processed

2016-04-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2016-04-06 17:46, ChristianEhrhardt wrote:
> I did the task of identifying the remaining packages that are affected.
> 
> $ apt-file search /etc/pm/sleep.d/
> 
> aiccu: /etc/pm/sleep.d/60aiccu

There has been a bug out for this for 4 years already that this should
never ever have existed:

 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689584

Short version: please remove any kind of trace from /etc/pm/sleep.d for
aiccu.

That should take care of your bug report for aiccu at least.

Greets,
 Jeroen


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[Bug 1099002] Re: Remote upgrade over aiccu connection failed

2015-05-31 Thread Jeroen Massar
** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Opinion

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[Bug 1201995] Re: package aiccu 20070115-15.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2015-05-31 Thread Jeroen Massar
No fix has been released for this.

This bug is invalid.

User just typed in a wrong username/password as per this log message:.

 Response not accepted: Login failed, login/password mismatch.

Nothing the package or the software can do about.

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[Bug 1221294] Re: package aiccu 20070115-14.1ubuntu3.2 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1

2015-05-31 Thread Jeroen Massar
Two years ago ( 2013-09-05) somebody typed a wrong password.

 From https://launchpadlibrarian.net/149425621/DpkgTerminalLog.txt
 Response not accepted: User rogerio does not exist in the DB..

Nothing that can be done about that in the package.


** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2015-05-31 Thread Jeroen Massar
** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 1031308] Re: Should not ask for password on each installation

2015-05-31 Thread Jeroen Massar
No replication of this bug possible.

Tested by installing a clean VM and then installing AICCU package,
debconf asks for password. Then install it again, and debconf does not
ask for it, as the username/password are stored in debconf and
aiccu.conf.


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[Bug 797268] Re: aiccu configuration should warn users that extra steps are needed in order to configure a tunnel

2015-05-31 Thread Jeroen Massar
One also has to go to the website for this, little the package can make
clearer.


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[Bug 1436129] Re: aiccu crashed with SIGSEGV in tun_reader()

2015-04-15 Thread Jeroen Massar
Did you stop AICCU?  Or otherwise terminate it?

As that code path would sigsegv when there is a race in the shutdown
where the tun_reader thread is still going and g_aiccu is set to NULL as
the process is shutting down.

More details on the events surrounding would be useful.

More importantly: is it repeatable?

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Re: [Bug 1380022] Re: aiccu's SSL connection is not secure

2014-10-11 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-10-11 10:24, rainkin wrote:
 ** Description changed:
 
   Recently, we are trying to find SSL security problems by static
   analysis. For example, as we all know, Hostname verification is an
   important step when verifying X509 certificates, however, people tend to
   miss the step or to misunderstand the APIs when using SSL/TLS, which
   might cause severe man in the middle attack and break the entire TLS
   mechanism. And static analysis is a way of finding whether the APIs are
   called correctly.

While static analysis is a good thing to identify possible problems, it
does not match the intent of code.

   Now, we find some SSL problems in aiccu, the following is details:

As tic.sixxs.net (and other TIC server instances) had a CAcert or
self-signed certificate, the check for the certificate is not present
and cannot be enforced.

Adding a hostname check or a certificate chain check would thus break
deployed systems.

The only thing that the TLS support adds is hiding of the ephemeral
tunnel key that is transmitted for heartbeat and AYIYA tunnels.
That key changes every once in a while, thus it does not matter.

Any organization that is able to intercept/redirect traffic or change
DNS can break the TIC procedure already, in a same way they can perform
that attack on the actual tunnel.

Note that the actual tunnels are also in clear text. If the adversary
can redirect/intercept traffic, they can better target that.

Greets,
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[Bug 1287332] Re: package aiccu 20070115-15.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück

2014-03-04 Thread Jeroen Massar
 /var/log/syslog told me that TIC Server is currently not available.

There is likely another error above that message, as that is just the
general marker.

 It was just a misconfiguration at server site,

What kind of misconfiguration? How did you resolve that
misconfiguration?

 I could solve that, but I expected such informations in /var/log/aiccu.log or
 as error message on stderr. (dpkg --reconfigure aiccu or /etc/init.d/aiccu 
 restart are not verbous at all).

Unless there is something special creating and filling in a
/var/log/aiccu.log, I don't expect that to exist.

AICCU logs to syslog in daemonized mode and to stderr in non-daemonized
mode.

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[Bug 1287332] Re: package aiccu 20070115-15.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück

2014-03-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
Without the output of aiccu or the script that is calling it, there is
little to say as except for the line that says that the post-install
script failed, there is no actual error message.

You might want to check /var/log/* for aiccu related messages; and/or
try 'dpkg --configure aiccu' and/or try starting aiccu manually.

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2014-01-14 Thread Jeroen Massar
 THEN TCPDUMP STOPS WHEN GIVING RESTART AICCU DUE SIXXS DROPS OUT

What do you mean with this sentence? Can you rephrase it? (possibly with
interpunction and possibly also in lowercase?)

It sounds like you are restarting things, why?

Note that, as stated on the contact page mentioned in a previous comment
on this bug, looking at the tunneled interface ('sixxs' in this case) is
fruitless; the underlying interface is what should be looked at as that
will show the actual packets being sent out.

 ppp0 trafic tcpdump:

You might want to filter out all non-relevant traffic. Relevant traffic
would be the actual AYIYA packets and any kind of ICMP, everything else
just makes people need to search. If you do not want to, then provide a
pcap (though limit the packet size then) so that it can be loaded into
wireshark or similar, grepping text is a lot of work. (also publishing
your private traffic (IMAP to yahoo, XMPP to Google etc) is likely
something to be avoided).

On top of that, the '-n' option (network numbers / do not resolve) is
awesome, makes things a lot more readable too.

The last lines show:

11:25:29.977623 IP fihel01.sixxs.net.5072  10.175.110.58.53305: UDP, length 
1324
11:25:29.977849 IP 10.175.110.58.53305  fihel01.sixxs.net.5072: UDP, length 116
11:25:29.997546 IP fihel01.sixxs.net.5072  10.175.110.58.53305: UDP, length 
1324
11:25:29.997643 IP fihel01.sixxs.net.5072  10.175.110.58.53305: UDP, length 
1324
11:25:29.997799 IP 10.175.110.58.53305  fihel01.sixxs.net.5072: UDP, length 116
11:25:29.997847 IP 10.175.110.58.53305  fihel01.sixxs.net.5072: UDP, length 116
11:25:30.007499 IP fihel01.sixxs.net.5072  10.175.110.58.53305: UDP, length 
1324

Seems nothing wrong with that.  Shows that you are sending and receiving
packets back.

 One reason found, that was  at evneing ifconfig wlan2 down and
 at morning ifconfig wlan up,... that stops trafic trough sixxs,...

Where are the details as requested several times already?

 This is fixed to give restart aiccu after ifconfig wlan up .

Sounds more like your machine is in such an inconsistent state that that
resolves some kind of problem.

Now, the proper solution is not a restart, but providing enough details
so that an answer can be found.

 Also got new Huawei driver that gives staedy trafic to ppp0.

As you did not mention Huawei before, what kind of device is this and
how does it relate?

Next to that, it seems you are mixing wlan and ppp0 here, which is
the actual device being used for connectivity?

 Still ther have been mystery stops randomly at day,... ppp0
 up down transition, could it stop aiccu working? 

Without details, little anyone can say.

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-20 Thread Jeroen Massar
 joni@mpi2:~$ sudo tcpdump -i sixxs

Dumping the tunneling interface will only show the traffic that goes
into the tunnel.

For any kind of tunneling protocol you need to look at the interface
that the tunneling happens over.

Also, using hostname resolving makes it difficult to see what is really
involved, use -n flag.

Note that SixXS publishes a really good list of things to report:
https://www.sixxs.net/contact/#problems

which mentions all these things. If you would actually report all the
things requested there it would avoid having to file so many comments in
this bug.

So, I do not see difrence at sixxs interface after restarting aiccu, sixxs 
interface
 repair's, resets somthing at kernel routing,... correct ???

Can you please rewrite this sentence into separate sentences as I don't
understand what you are trying to ask.

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
 AICCU dose not dedetect changes so it can not receive data, IPV4 network
 works but it can have brakes and IP can change,... conection is lost at IPV6
 to incoming direction and aiccu dose not find it.

From this sentence I understand you claim that AICCU does not handle
IPv4 address changes, it, or actually the protocols AYIYA and heartbeat
fully support that. As such, if you think they do not please provide
technical details.

 You must restart aiccu time to time to keep connection.

Restarting AICCU does not solve any problem. It will get you blocked
from TIC when you do it too often as clearly described in a variety of
places.

 Have I miss understood that aiccu should have it's internal heart
beat to sixxs.org,

sixxs.org is a IPv6Gateway for HTTP, it is unrelated to AICCU.

You likely mean the heartbeat protocol or the AYIYA-internal heartbeat,
these both happen automatically inside the protocol (unless specifically
disabled).


The subject of your bug is:
 aiccu can not route, looses route

Why do you claim that it can not route? And which route does it
looses?

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
 Technical detail is that fact operator changes IP time to time as well
 there can missing pacets due operator switches radio mode of conection
 between GRPS-UMTS-HSPA,

That is not a *technical* detail, that is merely a description of the
problem that you are seeing.

As stated, the AYIYA and heartbeat protocols both handle the situation
of an IP address change.


 SHOREWALL6

How is this shorewall6 configured, any connection tracking or other
firewalling happening that is blocking packets?

 I belive this somthing to do whit Operators way handle
 incoming trafic and chage of IP4, 

If your operator intentionally (or not) is blocking AYIYA/heartbeat (you
don't specify what you are using), then there is nothing that AICCU or
the AYIYA/heartbeat protocols can do about this as they are not
circumvention protocols.

 sixxs IPV6 gose down
 incoming direction but IPV4 works and sixxs IPV6 dose not
 come back whitout reastarting aiccu,... I was planing to
 to do script that pings my own site via sixxs and if not
 find then restart,...

From the README and also mentioned on www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/

Notes
Please read the README that is included with AICCU. Following is an important 
section of that text:

WARNING: Never run AICCU from DaemonTools or a similar automated 'restart' 
tool/script. When AICCU does not start, it has a reason not to start which it 
gives on either the stdout or in the (sys)log file. The TIC server *will* 
automatically disable accounts which are detected to run in this mode. Use 
'verbose true' to see more information which is especially handy when starting 
fails. 
Please also heed the notice in the TIC FAQ which explains what happens to 
clients that connect repeatively.
-

Thus in case you did not bother reading that or:
 https://www.sixxs.net/news/2013/#tichammeringcontinuespleasecon-0722

now you are pointed to it. Thus be forewarned.

Thus instead of going the Something is broken, I don't know what, I'll
just restart it route, instead please actually provide *TECHNICAL
DETAILS* of the problem (strace, netstat, tcpdump, interface and routing
tables etc etc etc) without that there is little anyone can say about
your situation.

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
 If operator could block AYIA I belive aiccu did not start !

Even if AYIYA is blocked (or otherwise caused to be broken), AICCU can
still start.

This as AICCU fetches it's configuration using the TIC protocol, which
is independent of the tunnel protocol used afterwards (proto-41,
optionally with heartbeat or  AYIYA).

 Restarting is not due aiccu is down or not running,...
 reason or another it hangs ,... sudo restart aiccu
start's incoming ipv6 trafic, ping6 send's packages
while aiccu/tunnel is hangig but no response nor error!!!

Where are the interface tables, tcpdumps and other details that would
maybe show an error? See previous comment for other details that would
be very useful.

 ANY IDEAS HOW TO TEST THAT OPERATOR IS NOT
 DISTURBIN AYIA / AICCU ???

Providing the requested information would be a good start.

 joni@mpi2:~$ sudo cat /etc/aiccu.conf

There is very little that one can do wrong in the AICCU config; keeping
the default options and just having username/password/tunnel_id is all
one needs (typically at least).

But that is a config,not the output of AICCU when it is running, not a
tcpdump nor any other useful technical detail.

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
 Joni-Pekka, would you please be so kind, and post the output of sudo 
 /usr/sbin/aiccu autotest ?
 Best would be twice: One before changed IP and one after at least 2 minutes 
 after connection is broken.

That does not do anything useful. The 'autotest' mode sets up the tunnel
again and thus effectively means you re-started AICCU.

(yes, I realize, it would be better if autotest could be run without
setting up and breaking down the tunnel, but that is how it is at the
moment).

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
 Problem to supply any usefull is that it dose not happen every days
and sometimes twice 

Then collect the information when the problem happens. How do you mean
that the problem happens 'twice'?

 Most likely this somekind of timeing / protocol,... related problem,

Unless your local system clock drifts (your computer is NTP synced
right?), what kind of timing/protocol problem do you mean?

 there have been same kind of reports but those have been negled

What 'reports' are you referring to and what do you mean with 'negled'?

 Yes, IPV4 work's, aiccu run's and incoming IPV6 dose not work.

Sounds more like a firewall problem to me in that case. Please provide
actual technical details, without it little anybody can say about this.

 There is one problem but it can be rounting realted,
 I have not succeed to get intranet machines routed trough
 router computer whit IPV6.

As AICCU does not handle this kind of setup, that is out of scope for
this ticket. I suggest using the SixXS Forums for asking for help, there
are people there who can tell you what to look at.

 So could it still be problem whit kernel ipv6 rounting and not
aiccu???

It can be anything. Without details, hard to say.

 I have done all needed steps to get IPV6 work ( fowarding statement,
shorewall6, dhcp6 and bind )

Again, without details, nobody can comment on this.

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[Bug 1261653] Re: aiccu can not route, looses route

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
 I mean protocol level timeing, response time, missing packets,...

AICCU can do little about high latency or missing packets.
As for 'timing' except for the requirement that hosts are NTP synced, there is 
no timing, AYIYA/proto-41 are lossless protocols, the tunneled protocols (eg 
TCP) will take care of retransmission.

 Basically aiccu should not change iptables

AICCU does not change iptables, why do you think it does that? Please
provide details.

 and shorewall dose it only ones when it have started,...,... there is
no ufw,..

Even if these components do not change, if connection tracking is
involved, then that might cause problems when the connection tracking is
not properly tracking the connections.

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[Bug 1221294] Re: package aiccu 20070115-14.1ubuntu3.2 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1

2013-09-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
From https://launchpadlibrarian.net/149425621/DpkgTerminalLog.txt

 Response not accepted: User rogerio does not exist in the DB..

When wrong user/pass is given, AICCU won't start, and thus indeed it
fails.

Nothing that can be fixed in the package (except may be providing a way
to not start when not properly configured).

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[Bug 1201995] Re: package aiccu 20070115-15.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2013-08-01 Thread Jeroen Massar
From the DpkgTerminalLog.gz :
--
Setting up aiccu (20070115-15.1ubuntu1) ...
Response not accepted: Login failed, login/password mismatch.
Files /usr/share/aiccu/conf-templates/aiccu.conf and /etc/aiccu.conf differ
start: Job failed to start
-

If you enter a wrong username/password things will not work. Nothing
much the package can do about.

According to var.log.aiccu.log.txt AICCU is also being restarted a *lot*, what 
is causing that?
The TIC server will not accept repeated logins and will ban the account in 
question as per this section from the AICCU README:
8---
WARNING: Never run AICCU from DaemonTools or a similar automated 'restart' 
tool/script. When AICCU does not start, it has a reason not to start which it 
gives on either the stdout or in the (sys)log file. The TIC server *will* 
automatically disable accounts which are detected to run in this mode. Use 
'verbose true' to see more information which is especially handy when starting 
fails. 
8

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[Bug 1099002] Re: Remote upgrade over aiccu connection failed

2013-01-14 Thread Jeroen Massar
  Note that the way that ssh solves this is to run an other binary
on a different port,

 OK. I don't understand how that is done transparently, but I guess I
can read about it somewhere.

It is a feature of update-manager-core, debian's default apt-get dist-
upgrade style of upgrading for instance would not do this.

As such, any logic like detecting connectivity (be that AICCU's / SSH /
OpenVPN / Tinc etc) would have to be done there for it to be done
properly.

Of course, maybe having a we are upgrading this package, you might lose
connectivity warning might be useful to have as a warning in AICCU.

 I guess when we have native IPv6 then remote upgrades will not have
this problem and will be at least as reliable as ipv4 ssh upgrades

Over the many years of having native dual-stack IPv4+IPv6 on a large
variety of hosts I noticed that is more reliable as one can break for
instance IPv4 with a firewall rule and then still use IPv6 to get in ;)

 A warning would have helped me enormously

I agree.

I've quickly checked, but I don't see either OpenVPN or Tinc having it,
even network manager does not seem to have it. Note that this kind of
warning would affect every single upgrade of a binary that is providing
network connectivity.

 This filing may help a few other people to avoid tripping over it.

I don't think it will help much, because one typically does not check
all the bug reports before doing an upgrade...


I am pondering if we could teach apt/dpkg about packages that provide network 
connectivity, so that when they are being upgraded that that package tag can 
uniformly inform the user that such an upgrade might cause issues for their 
connectivity.
Would need to determine the right package for that though, as some people use 
apt, some aptitude, some synaptic and some directly use dpkg and all these 
package managers, even if they are front-ends to apt, would need to know about 
it.

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[Bug 1099002] Re: Remote upgrade over aiccu connection failed

2013-01-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
 So it looks lot like aiccu dropped te connction during the upgrade.

Replacing a package (and thus the binary) implies restarting AICCU to
get the new binary up and running.

The only way to figure out what happened and what failed is to see the
log, which is not attached.

  preserve connections wherever possible,

Due to the restart of the binary, that is impossible. In these kind of
situations one could say to not upgrade tools like this remotely

Note that the way that ssh solves this is to run an other binary on a
different port, this is not possible with AICCU as it is actualy
providing the connectivity.

The other work around is of course to use IPv4, at least as a backup, as
that connectivity is likely there; thus: ssh into the box using IPv6,
set up a reverse SSH over IPv4 as a backup connection (similar to the
SSH scenario where the alternative port SSH is the backup) and then get
into that one over IPv4 too to be sure to be able to survive the AICCU
restart.


In the end though this is a non-bug mostly. Though there could maybe be a huge 
warning, similar to the SSH case, to note to the user that AICCU (and any other 
VPN tool like OpenVPN etc) is being used and that it might be that that 
connection gets lost, in the same way as SSH.

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[Bug 1077671] Re: package aiccu 20070115-14.1ubuntu3.2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2012-11-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
Entering a valid username would resolve this problem:
-
Setting up aiccu (20070115-14.1ubuntu3.2) ...
Response not accepted: User r37u2a49ci does not exist in the DB..
Files /usr/share/aiccu/conf-templates/aiccu.conf and /etc/aiccu.conf differ
start: Job failed to start
invoke-rc.d: initscript aiccu, action start failed.
dpkg: error processing aiccu (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Setting up likewise-open (6.1.0.406-0ubuntu5) ...
Error: /usr/sbin/lwsmd --start-as-daemon returned 1 (aborting this script)
-

(though what exactly produces that 'Response not accepted' is unknown,
to me at least, maybe a part of debconf?)

From the DistrupgradeAptlog it also looks:

--
Log time: 2012-11-11 08:06:32.820707
Starting
Starting 2
Done
MarkUpgrade() called on a non-upgrable pkg: 'brasero'
ERROR:root:Upgrading 'brasero' failed
---

that you have problems with brasero...

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[Bug 1058883] Re: start-on conditions in Upstart script prevent aiccu from restarting during resume from suspend

2012-10-05 Thread Jeroen Massar
 When the daemon starts, it will terminate if it cannot contact the
tunneling service

At failures it will always log the error and terminate. This as that is
the way that a user will notice things and start looking into logs.
Unfortunately people seem to think that everything needs the Win95
treatment and just restart things instead.

, which is very different from how the
 daemon behaves once it's started, where it is supposed to handle network 
 outages gracefully, without a restart.

That is correct, but how is that inconsistent?

 This bug report contains logs that illustrate the behavior: 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/+bug/223825.
 The same behavior is present on my system running a fully patched Ubuntu 
 12.04 release.

That shows as the first line indicates that somebody decided to change
the startup method which then caused things to break as there was no
network yet. Simple solution: start it (once, btw, and not repeatedly)
when your network connectivity is up.

 These inconsistencies

That is not inconsistent. If there is an error condition (broken time,
no network) it exits.

Now, if your IP address changes while it is already running, then it
will keep on working.

  Neither aiccu's built-in behavior or the Upstart

Please note that Upstart is something from Ubuntu etc, do not start
blaming AICCU for the way that that start script handles it.

 (recall the Upstart script looks for the local-file-system signal in
addition to the net-device-up signal).

Then fix upstart.

 Seems to me the best solution to these issues is for the aiccu daemon
to behave the same way on startup and while running.

As it retrieves it's primary configuration details using TIC, it needs
them, in it's current incarnation it will thus properly exit.

 Given the choice, I'd vote for handling network outages gracefully in both 
 scenarios: this makes the startup scripting very
 simple: start aiccu on boot, and let it handle everything from there.

This is what will be likely the case in the next AICCU version, which I
want to finish but do not get around to unfortunately, maybe tomorrow
will be the right day though

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[Bug 1058883] Re: start-on conditions in Upstart script prevent aiccu from restarting during resume from suspend

2012-10-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
  I found the file
`/etc/pm/sleep.d/60aiccu`. This appears to be the offending line:

  $P6 -I $INT -c 1 f.root-servers.net /dev/null 21 || invoke-rc.d aiccu
restart

And the million dollar prize question becomes: why is there a restart
there?

 If I comment out the offending line and use the package's original Upstart
 script (with the local-filesystem condition intact), the sixxs interface is
 still present on resume.

Always good to know that the unmodified version works fine ;)

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[Bug 1058883] Re: start-on conditions in Upstart script prevent aiccu from restarting during resume from suspend

2012-10-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
 I'm not sure why the restart is there. Perhaps it's trying to guarantee the
 routing tables are correct.

Why would they not be?

 Or perhaps it's intended to start up the aiccu
 daemon if the computer is suspended on a network with native IPv6 support,
 then resumed on a network without native IPv6 support, where the aiccu
 daemon is needed. It also restarts aiccu if ping6 isn't found, not sure why.

There is no logic in the script or in the default AICCU for this. Thus
that cannot be it either.

(Logic for detecting native IPv6 and optionally disabling tunneling, or
wel, at least the routes for it, is a wishlist item in upstream AICCU)

 Just in case it wasn't clear, the sleep.d script is part of the default
 installation as well--I don't have a link, but it can be easily verified by
 downloading the aiccu source package and looking for the file `60aiccu` in
 the debian/ directory.

Something in Debian/Ubuntu added it; but it is not in default, or maybe better 
said, original/upstream AICCU.
This as one should not have to restart AICCU, ever.

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[Bug 1058883] Re: start-on conditions in Upstart script prevent aiccu from restarting during resume from suspend

2012-10-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
 Looking at the Debian changelog, it appears this resume script has its
 origins in this bug report:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531003

Thus instead of having a log or output or anything else to actually
figure out what goes wrong the 'solution' is a restart right.

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[Bug 1058883] Please remove sleep patch which does not work and does not resolve any problem

2012-10-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
[Caleb: thanks for finding the origin of this fix]

So it seems this sleep fix, by just restarting (I thought Debian was
not an ancient Microsoft product where one just reboots all the time),
which was not tested is now causing issues for people:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058883

Would it not be prudent to revert such a patch, or better, never have
applied it if the patch was not tested or proven working at all?!?

It seems there are no logs or other details included about this issue,
just a it does not work and I restart it now it works and then a
patch for just restarting it.

Would be great if there actually where logs for this issue or other
details that would demonstrate the problem.

Maybe time to remove this patch?

As I have stated in various places: AICCU does not need to be restarted,
the protocols used should handle it, that is why those protocols, exist.

If the tunnel 'breaks', please provide details of what is broken so that
the real problem can be addressed just restarting it does not
resolve such a problem.

Bigger note:
 If anybody has logs which demonstrate breakage please provide them,
 then I can take those situations along in the testing of the new AICCU.

 I've added to the to-check list to check with Virtualbox how a
 acpisleepbutton event affects the state of AICCU, thus lets see what
 the result of such a test is (best I can do, no Linux on a laptop
 anywhere near me at the moment... but this should be similar)

Greets,
 Jeroen

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[Bug 1058883] Re: start-on conditions in Upstart script prevent aiccu from restarting during resume from suspend

2012-09-30 Thread Jeroen Massar
 aiccu doesn't (re)start

AICCU should just kept on running during a resume, no need to stop it
before and start it after it, nothing is changing for it (except maybe
network, and that it can handle).

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[Bug 1055818] Re: Aiccu is unable to start

2012-09-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
 The error message means actually Access to file denied, it looks
like only root user can read from the config file.

That is how it should be as there are passwords in that file that should
not go to third parties.

 Setting verbose to true does not change anything that I can find in
log files... :(

Turn daemonize to 'false' then it will not background and it will output
to the console instead of syslog.


I do not think there is anything really Ubuntu-specific about this issue though

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[Bug 1055818] Re: Aiccu is unable to start

2012-09-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
You might want to check what syslog daemon you are running and how it is
configured, as when AICCU is in verbose mode it will log everything to
syslog when daemonize is not false, thus if you do not see anything in
syslog, something there is misconfigured and/or broken...

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[Bug 1055818] Re: Aiccu is unable to start

2012-09-25 Thread Jeroen Massar
 if adding account data (username,password) to /etc/aiccu.conf
doesn't help, please try to run sudo aiccu stop; sudo aiccu autotest
/tmp/aiccu_autotest; sudo aiccu start and post the file /tmp/aiccu-
autotest here.

One also needs to specify a 'tunnel_id' if one has multiple tunnels.

thus aiccu.conf should have at least:
{{{
username xxx-SIXXS
password 
tunnel_id Tn
}}}

And if you want more details out of aiccu you do not use the 'autotest'
option, you first set verbosity to true with the option:

{{{
verbose true
}}}

as then it actually gives out a lot more details. Errors should still be
logged properly though.

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[Bug 378251] Re: security bug in nsd requires patching to prevent DOS

2012-08-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
3.2.13 is out for a month already, might be nice to get an updated
package...

https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/
{{{

NSD 3.2.13
Jul 27, 2012
Bugfixes
Bugfix #461 (VU#517036 CVE-2012-2979): NSD denial of service vulnerability from 
DNS packet when using --enable-zone-stats.
Bugfix #460: man page correction - identity.
Fix for nsd-patch segfault if zone has been removed from nsd.conf (thanks Ilya 
Bakulin)

NSD 3.2.12
Jul 19, 2012
Bugfixes
Fix for VU#624931 CVE-2012-2978: NSD denial of service vulnerability from 
non-standard DNS packet from any host on the internet.


NSD 3.2.11
Jul 9, 2012
Features
Fallback to AXFR if IXFR is unknown at the primary. NSD considers IXFR unknown 
at the primary if there is a negative response for the IXFR RRtype. This does 
not override the value for 'allow-axfr-fallback'.
Allow for reading in new DNSKEY algorithm mnemonics (RFC5155, RFC5702, RFC5933, 
and RFC6605 (ECDSA)).
Zone statistics, enable with --enable-zone-stats. This stores the BIND8 stats 
per zone in a configurable statistics file. This option does not scale and 
should therefore not be enabled when serving many zones.
Support for TLSA RRtype (DANE).
Bugfixes
Fix for qtype ANY for a wildcard domain in NSEC signed zone: Don't add the 
wildcard domain NSEC into the answer section. Instead, put the wildcard 
expanded NSEC into the answer section and keep the wildcard domain NSEC in the 
authority section.
Fix for accept spinning reported by OpenBSD.
Fix restart failed due to bad ixfr packet because of zone removed from nsd.conf.
Bugfix #453: typo in nsdc man page.
}}}


** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2012-2978

** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-
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[Bug 378251] Re: security bug in nsd requires patching to prevent DOS

2012-08-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
Debian is upto 3.2.12-1, which is almost upto date, see
http://packages.debian.org/sid/nsd3

As such, one can easily take their details as usual, no extra work
needed for Ubuntu for this...

From the UpdateProcedure page:
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by requesting syncs from Debian. Patches for flaws in packages from universe 
and multiverse for stable releases should be prepared by community members.
-

As such, please sync it ;)

(and I'll indeed kick Debian folks to update to 3.2.13...)

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[Bug 378251] Re: security bug in nsd requires patching to prevent DOS

2012-08-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
Filed as http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685550

** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #685550
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685550

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[Bug 223825] Re: aiccu init.d script will race dhclient (upstart issue?)

2011-07-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
 Jeroen, his upstart job does not use the 'respawn' keyword, so it will not be 
 automatically restarted like daemontools does.
 This is only started when there is a real network interface (something I 
 would think necessary for this daemon to work!),
 and stopped when the system is going down.

I agree that bringing the daemon up when the network goes up is fine,
and as there is a PID file it will only run once and not start again
when the interface is brought up again.

Stopping it when the network goes down though will mean that when the
network is flipping (which we have seen at several people already) you
will be effectively start/stopping the daemon all the time.


From another reply:
 I cannot find any documentation that indicates AICCU has any purpose other 
 than setting up and tearing down AYIYA tunnels.

You might want to start at reading the wikipedia article which already
tells you a lot more than that. It does TIC first to retrieve the tunnel
configuration, then it can set up a static (which is quite useless on
debian due to the great interfaces(5) :) and of course then run a
heartbeat or do AYIYA.

 There is no need for such a tool to run if there is no network
connection, unless the tool also monitors network connectivity.

The whole point of heartbeat and AYIYA is handling dynamic tunnels.

 At least on my Natty system, the aiccu daemon simply terminates when
no network connection is present,

It exits because it is unable to retrieve the configuration. See the log
file for a nice message.

 so it does not appear to have any ability to monitor the status of the
system's network connectivity

When it is started and it can connect to the TIC server and retrieve
it's configuration, then it will nicely inform the PoP of network
connectivity state using either the heartbeat or the AYIYA protocol.

 (and it probably shouldn't have that ability--that's really the system
administrator's concern).

People who are using AICCU don't care about this, they just want working
connectivity and that is what it does.

 So again, I would be interested to know what function of AICCU makes
it useful without a network connection.

Without a network connection (and with that an Internet connection not
a local network) there is not much it can do, that is why it then also
exits. When you though start it when you have working connectivity you
can keep it running, no need to exit it, and it won't exit then by
itself either.

 I have in fact read the warning you mention. I'd be interested to know
how it applies to my Upstart script and not the one on which Lars Dursig
has been working on.

See the above, you are also disabling it when the network goes down, as such, 
if the interface flips, it will 
Note also that there is no clause anywhere that when that interface goes 
up/down is actually an interface that can do anything with internet 
connectivity. Maybe at least a notion of a check that there is a default route 
would be sane to have?

 Jeroen, his upstart job does not use the 'respawn' keyword, so it will
not be automatically restarted like daemontools does.

As Lars said also, it will seem to automatically restart when the
network goes mad, this is something that we have seen at several people
already, who nicely got a reminder to not effectively attempt to DoS the
TIC server.


In summary: at network-up time (for a network that actually has
connectivity to the TIC server and the PoP) it is fine, but at network-
down time it would be quite annoying.

The annoying part comes to the user who will get emails, and the SixXS
staff who will get silly complains that they had an issue, those issues
you will never see here in the ticket tracker though.

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[Bug 223825] Re: aiccu init.d script will race dhclient (upstart issue?)

2011-07-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
Clint: you are mixing two proposals, there is a) one for upstart, b)
the network-based one

The upstart one indeed does not have that issue.

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[Bug 223825] Re: aiccu init.d script will race dhclient (upstart issue?)

2011-07-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
 Attached is an updated work-around script that emits net-device-up
/net-device-down events.

I am really wondering if you know what the function of AICCU is, because
if you did you would not be stopping it when the network goes down and
starting it automatically when the network goes up.

Also obviously you did not read the README file included in the original
source distribution which contains this little piece of text:

8
WARNING: never run AICCU from DaemonTools or a similar automated
'restart' tool/script. When AICCU does not start, it has a reason
not to start which it gives on either the stdout or in the (sys)log
file. The TIC server *will* automatically disable accounts which
are detected to run in this mode. Use 'verbose true' to see more
information which is especially handy when starting fails.
-8

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[Bug 794579] Re: aiccu: debconf should ask if you're behind a NAT

2011-06-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
The 'behindnat' option only disables a warning, for the rest it does
absolutely nothing.

It figures out that it is behind NAT (well, it checks if that address is
RFC1918) it that is the case and when that is the case it warns the user
about this, 'behindnat' disables that warning, that is it.

This thing is more a thing for the UI than for the daemon version that
is for the linux platforms.

When one is behind a NAT, in 99% of the cases you are using AYIYA, and
AYIYA does not care that it is behind a NAT.

I think what happened in your case is that you requested a tunnel and it
did not work directly as the PoP only gets re-configured every 10
minutes.

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[Bug 794579] Re: aiccu: debconf should ask if you're behind a NAT

2011-06-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
If there was something wrong, I am very sure that the 'behindnat' option
had anything to do with solving it ;)

As for problems with connectivity, don't hesitate to report those in the
proper place as per http://www.sixxs.net/contact/ and of course, with
the details as per requested there.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-07-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
Dear Derek, there is a way to fix this problem in your large corporate
network, like we did for that small corporate network that I am using:
fix the resolvers. As you are claiming to have a large corporate
network, you most likely have only a handful of recursors but you might
have a 100k clients, lets see which ones are easier to upgrade, 100k
clients which are all over the place or that 10 max or so recursors
easy pick I would say.

The thing you most likely are forgetting is the fact that the DNS recursors 
that you are using are not only broken for  records, but most likely for 
every single other address. Thus, by resolving this issue you will solve other 
magical problems too.
You can directly move on to support DNSSEC too for that matter if you are busy 
anyway.

Yes, the problem is annoying, no there is not much that Ubuntu or any
other OS can do about this. Thus fix the problem in the right spot.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Per Heldal / #43

glibc 2.10 does +A queries in parallel. I don't know if it does that
also for the ones in the search path, which seems to be the problem you
are describing above.

Nevertheless, search path should (afaik) only be applied to non-FQDN
hostnames (eg 'www' or 'hostname') not to anything containing already a
domain (eg 'www.domain'). When this is done and users type eg
'ubuntu.org' then the local search path does not come into play.


The problem that I have seen with recursors (even one on an old dd-wrt as even 
dnsmasq had this issue quite some time ago, but if you don't update it doesn't 
get fixed ;) was that it simply completely silently dropped  queries. It 
didn't even try to forward them. No response nothing. Even for www.ubuntu.org 
etc. Which is another error case from the scenario you describe, which is even 
funnier, as NXDOMAIN should definitely be handled properly (if they don't how 
the heck does that DNS recursor even work when somebody mistypes a URL ? :).

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
WORKING FIX (run as root of course):

apt-get install pdns-recursor resolvconf
echo nameserver 127.0.0.1  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
resolvconf -u

1) This will effectively install pdns_recursor which is a DNS recursor that 
simply works(tm) and it installs the resolvconf framework (which you most 
likely already have)
2) this echo sets the nameserver to 127.0.0.1, aka pdns
3) update resolv.conf with the above info

You should now have nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf and all
your DNS queries should be super duper fast again (also because they get
locally cached a bit ;)

Of course if you have a firewall between your host and the Internet
where DNS servers exist the above might not work when DNS gets
blocked...

I would almost suggest that Ubuntu make the above the default. The
problem is though that little firewall thing, if that is there or you
visit some netcafe or other network where only HTTP/HTTPS works, then
indeed it does not work...

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Jordan.sc #135

 I cannot, nor am I authorized to do firmware upgrades at the local coffee shop
 at the airport and at my place of business

And generally these locations have neutered DNS already anyway, eg they
only allow HTTP/HTTPS and generally only after authenticating (after
being hijacked using DNS to their portal thingy). These locations
(coffeeshops, hotels, airports, other generic hotspots etc etc) don't
provide true internet anyway and are thus breaking already way too much
protocol wise that there is nothing you can do about it.

The only thing you can do in those locations is to VPN out if you want
to resolve that problem.

In the cases where DNS requests are not blocked (like in hotels and
coffeeshops), you can setup pdns-recursor and use 127.0.0.1 in your
resolv.conf

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-02 Thread Jeroen Massar
The solution is to use a working DNS server.

A couple of ways to accomplish this:
 - use your ISP DNS servers directly
 - use OpenDNS or a similar provider
 - local caching resolver: put 127.0.0.1 as the nameserver (/etc/resolv.conf) 
and install pdns-recursor

The latter can be done per default in Ubuntu and would always work and require 
no setting changes.
The only negative side-effect is that the caching effect of DNS might be less 
used, but then again, most sites use DNS loadbalancing now, thus this is a 
non-issue.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-02 Thread Jeroen Massar
@cosmo #76, of course it is just a work around. The problem lies in
your DSL/cable modem, not in Ubuntu. Thus ubuntu can only work around
this issue. You didn't see the issue before as you where not using all
the features of the Internet (IPv6 ;)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-01 Thread Jeroen Massar
Of course it fixes the problem, this as the problem lies in the DNS
resolver that is inside the DSL/cable/etc modem.

Thus by entering/using OTHER dns servers, preferably the ones from your
ISP, otherwise the ones from the OpenDNS or similar providers, you
bypass the DNS resolver in the modem, and thus the device that would
otherwise drop DNS queries for  records.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-11-01 Thread Jeroen Massar
#64 Tim Coffey,

Just try the following: dig @dns server that is broken
www.bingabongobango.com 

That will take quite a long time to return.

The problem is that when you install Karmic, you get IPv6, because of
that, programs that are IPv6-capable will start asking for  records
As the DNS Server is broken it will not reply to the request. Thus it
looks like things are slow.

If the other PCs are using that DNS server, but not asking for 
records, then all will be fine and you won't notice the slowness indeed.

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[Bug 215497] Re: IPv6 configuration is not flushed when interface goes down

2009-10-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
(Thanks to swmike for pointing this one out to me)

Something one could try is to add in /etc/network/interfaces at the interfaces 
with the issues, add:
 pre-down ip -6 addr flush dev name
 pre-down ip -6 ro flush dev name

Then that should fully flush it. That is a hack and should be done by
the ifup/down code though, which should be far from hard of being added.

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[Bug 433972] Re: Internet ping very slow on Karmic Koala

2009-10-26 Thread Jeroen Massar
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 417757 ***
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Top right: Duplicate of bug #417757

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-23 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Nech / #36

 I work better using wifi than using wired connection.

So, like I ask everybody else, check to see if there is a huge latency
time difference when doing:

for i in `cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep ^nameserver | cut -f2 -d' '`; do
dig @$i www.microsoft.com ; done

Over the wired or wireless; quiker maybe is to check if you get a
different set of DNS servers when connected over wired or wireless (just
check if /etc/resolv.conf changes).

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-23 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Nech / #38

As you have the same DNS server for both wired and wireless, most very
likely _your problem_ is not a DNS issue* like what the others show
here.

* = unless an upstream of your DNS server has the drop unknown DNS
records problem and your resolver caches the negative answer correctly,
which will cause any subsequent query, like the ones above, to be quick
again.

To solve your problem, I guess you'll have to take a peek with
Wireshark...

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-23 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Zack Evans #40

I quickly looked at the Privoxy 3.0.12 IPv6-patch included in Debian
(and probably the same thing in Ubuntu) and it seems that it is quite
incomplete and has quite a number of broken assumptions. One of the
primary brokeness is actually documented in the patch with: /* TODO:
Allow multihomed hostnames */ indeed, that also means that if a host has
multiple A and/or  records, it will only try to use the first one,
which might actually be an IPv6 address (which is generally preferred).
As an example www.google.com has generally 4 IPv4 IP addresses (A
records) and as that Privoxy patch only supports 1 address per hostname,
it will only use one of those. If that single address is then IPv6, it
will try IPv6.

If your IPv6 connectivity is then broken (which might also be the
problem for other hosts) then of course it will take quite some time for
that to timeout

I would say: file a bug report against privoxy as clearly the patch that
is included can various websites which have multiple addresses to only
have the use of one address. and of course only IPv6 or IPv4 is then
supported by it... in other words: BROKEN.


With the above in mind, people who have problems with IPv6 should perform two 
tests:
 - ip ro sho |grep default
   ^ if you have a default route somewhere then of course it will be used, 
thus check where it goes and if that makes sense for you.
 - for i in `cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep ^nameserver | cut -f2 -d' '`; do dig 
@$i www.microsoft.com ; done
  ^-- if this has huge latency then your DNS resolver (or one above it) is 
broken. Do test this also with different hostnames then just www.microsoft.com, 
try especially hostnames that you didn't check in a while as they might be 
cached somewhere.

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[Bug 458223] Re: package aiccu 20070115-9 failed to install/upgrade: subproces post-installation script werd gedood door signaal (Interrupt)

2009-10-22 Thread Jeroen Massar
 ErrorMessage: subproces post-installation script werd gedood door
signaal (Interrupt)

Is Dutch for: subprocess post-installation script was killed by signal
(Interrupt)

I assume somebody thus hit CTRL-C.

Note that the Terminal Log contains:

Warning: Couldn't find global Tunnel Brokers List, please check your
DNS settings and read the FAQ.

This tends to indicate that the user has a problem with their DNS
resolver (or one of that resolvers upstreams) which fail to pass large
TXT records.

Do a:
for i in `cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep nameserver | cut -f2 -d' '`; do echo -e 
\n\n$i ==; dig +short @$i _aiccu.sixxs.net txt; done

The one which does not properly respond is the broken one. This might
cause most of your IPv6 resolving ( records) to likely fail too,
although that is just a 'might' as the problem here is long DNS
responses which can be caused by the TCP-response that is needed and
thus a firewall blocking DNS requests over TCP could be the culprit.

Example response of the above:

192.168.0.1 ==
;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode.
UKERNA tsp://broker.ipv6.ac.uk http://www.broker.ipv6.ac.uk; gb
Hexago / Freenet6 tsp://broker.freenet6.net http://www.freenet6.net; ca
ECS Southampton tsp://broker.ecs.soton.ac.uk 
http://broker.ecs.soton.ac.uk; gb
ACADEMIA Sinica Computing Centre tsp://tb2.ipv6.ascc.net 
http://tb2.ipv6.ascc.net; tw
Wanadoo France tsp://ts.ipv6.wanadoo.fr http://www.ipv6.wanadoo.fr; fr
# http://www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/brokers/;
AARNet tsp://broker.aarnet.net.au http://broker.aarnet.net.au; au
# AICCU TIC/TSP Servers
# name | url | website | tld's
SixXS tic://tic.sixxs.net http://www.sixxs.net; be de ee fi gb ie it nl 
nz pl pt si se us


Note that the results might return in a different order. The same content 
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ csulok / #32

What that does is avoid fixing the problem. You disable IPv6, and thus
glibc plays smart and does not resolve  records anymore.

Your DNS resolver though is still broken. You might not notice it now,
but if for instance per next year DNSSEC gets turned on you will run
into it again (and you will probably just disable DNSSEC)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-19 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Pconfig / #20

 You can't tell your grandmother to edit some config files because her
internet is slow

Does your grandmother use Ubuntu then? If so, then just help her out in
fixing the issue :)

@ Zack Evans / #23

 I have a Draytek so blaming the router isn't practical - these have a
MASSIVE installed base

This problem also is in effect when the user has Windows and IPv6
enabled on that. The problem lies in the DNS resolver (which might not
be the NAT box (what you call router) but might be even your ISP, and
thus you can avoid the problem by not using the DNS resolver in the NAT
box. You might of course also try to upgrade your router, maybe they
fixed the problem (you upgrade your Ubuntu and other things too, because
they have issues, thus try that)

 To be honest, only the advanced users would want IPv6 anyway, so why
not have it off by default and make it very easy to switch on?

Because in a few years or so you will have to enable IPv6 as there won't
be any new hosts with IPv4 addresses. As such, better bite the apple
today and fix those IPv6 issues, then wait till you really need it.

@ camper365  / #24

yes, that is correct, as when you ping www.google.com it has to lookup
the hostname in DNS, while if you ping the address, it doesn't. DNS
resolving (thus figuring out which address belongs to the requested
hostname) is where the problem lies. See the hints about OpenDNS or
pdns-recursor to solve it.

@ Ragnarel / #25

as per comment #11 try a:
  for i in `cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep ^nameserver | cut -f2 -d' '`; do dig 
@$i www.microsoft.com ; done
when connected to wireless and when not connected to wireless. Or just for that 
matter, check if you are using the same nameservers when connected to wireless 
and wired, if they are different then you already got a small part of the 
answer.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
For everybody not reading the other comments, #7 actually explains what
goes on

Yes, indeed, probably the best solution is to use just install a local
DNS resolver (pdns-resolver), which hits the roots/gtld's etc itself.
This is not very friendly to the general Internet, but heck, with the
largest DNS server doing short TTLs and based on geography it might not
matter too much.

Thus kids, apt-get install pdns-recursor and edit your
/etc/resolv.conf to point to 127.0.0.1 when you get hit by this issue.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-10-07 Thread Jeroen Massar
@ Markus's #8 comment: as I mentioned Note that the DNS queries go over
IPv4 (transport), there is no IPv6 _connectivity_ involved here..

You also state 'so all IPv6 requests are answered by an IPv6 enabled DNS
server.; well, unless you configured IPv6 DNS resolver addresses in
your /etc/resolv.conf then queries will still go over IPv4 (transport),
even though they are  queries. AICCU only provides IPv6 connectivity
(transport) it does not configure DNS resolvers though.

@ Bernard's #9 comment: most likely your livebox contains one of these
broken DNS resolvers. Happens a lot that CPEs have this issue. Try the
below to check this out. Configuring resolv.conf with OpenDNS or other
working DNS servers (eg the ones of your ISP directly, instead of the
livebox) might solve your problem. Do also please realize that this
problem ALSO occurs on other platforms than Linux, eg Windows, which is
what the majority of people are using; what to use is a choice of the
user afterall


To verify this, do a:
for i in `cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep ^nameserver | cut -f2 -d' '`; do dig @$i 
www.microsoft.com ; done

This should return quite quickly, even though no  records for
www.microsoft.com exist yet. Now, if you have a broken resolver
somewhere along the way, these requests won't return quickly (unless
they are locally or on-path cached as negative).

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2009-09-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
This is a problem with the DNS resolver.

This problem will occur for any DNS request which the DNS resolver does not 
support.
The proper solution is to fix the DNS resolver.

What happens:
 - Program is IPv6 enabled.
 - When it looks up a hostname, getaddrinfo() asks first for a  record
 - the DNS resolver sees the request for the  record, goes uhmmm I dunno 
what it is, lets throw it away
 - DNS client (getaddrinfo() in libc) waits for a response. has to time out 
as there is no response. (THIS IS THE DELAY)
 - No records received yet, thus getaddrinfo() goes for a the A record request. 
This works.
 - Program gets the A records and uses those.

This does NOT only affect IPv6 () records, it also affects any other DNS 
record that the resolver does not support.
Generally these resolvers are embedded into the NAT boxes that consumers have.

Working solution, as we are on Linux anyway: don't use the DNS resolver
in the NAT box, but install eg pdns-recursor and use that.

Of course that does not fix the broken box, which might be the NAT box, or the 
resolvers at the ISP.
Some other people start using OpenDNS because those work (But that is not 
really true either: 
https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2009-July/004217.html)

Note that the DNS queries go over IPv4 (transport), there is no IPv6
_connectivity_ involved here.

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[Bug 223825] Re: aiccu init.d script will race dhclient (upstart issue?)

2009-06-11 Thread Jeroen Massar
Given motivation (and no nasty crap coming my way) I'll try to finish up the 
all brand new AICCU this weekend.
This one will have a GUI on all platforms and will also resolve a lot of other 
tiny tidbits, including 're-connect'. One can then just run the daemon, and it 
will make sure that connectivity works, if connectivity is not there (yet) it 
will just retry a bit later to get it up and running. Testing seems to have 
proven that it all more or less works, but I need to test a couple of other 
platforms to get everything running fine before actually bringing it out to the 
public (and then getting flooded with mails that it does not work 
especially the nice comments in there always give one sooo much motivation to 
solve other peoples problems that those cases are not worth it). Lets see what 
the weekend brings ;)

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Re: [Bug 79439] Re: New aiccu version 2007.01.15 released

2007-01-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
Markus Vuori wrote:
 No. It doesn't work for dapper because libgnutls13 is not available.
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   aiccu: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
  Depends: libgnutls13 (= 1.4.0-0) but it is not installable
  Depends: libgnutls13 but it is not installable
 E: Broken packages

It was build on a Debian unstable, and the package worked on the current
Ubunty edgy. But that is probably because that has new versions.

 I also tried to recompile it following the instructions on the sixxs web
 page. Compilation went ok but the newly compiled package is
 uninstallable, too, due to unmet dependencies.

Which dependencies are unmet? The only versioned depends are lsb-base
and libgnutls13. The first should not cause a problem, the latter can be
 easily changed to libgnutls12 and that should work. Modify
debian/control for that and it should work.

Unfortunately one can't make a 'generic-latest-on-the-buildbox' control
file as far as I know. If one knows how, yell.

From the next message:
 Tried to compile libgnutls13 from edgy source package but it appeared to
 be quite difficult and complicated because of missing libtasn1-3
 packages for dapper  :( 

See above on how to fix that, just use libgnutls13.

The dependency for libgnutls13 is there as libgnutls12 is deprecated due
to security bugs or something in that area.

Greets,
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Re: [Bug 79439] Re: New aiccu version 2007.01.15 released

2007-01-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
Jeroen Massar wrote:

 Unfortunately one can't make a 'generic-latest-on-the-buildbox' control
 file as far as I know. If one knows how, yell.
[..]

${shlibs:Depends} already includes libgnutlsXX it seesms:

Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libgnutls13 (= 1.4.0-0), iputils-ping,
iputils-tracepath, iproute, debconf, lsb-base
 (= 1.3-9ubuntu2), gawk | awk, libgnutls13

As such the libgnutls13 can be removed. Commited in AICCU CVS.

Can you check that the below control file (just cutpaste into it) works
when rebuilding the package? Note that the Depends: line is one line.

Greets,
 Jeroen

debian/control/
-
Source: aiccu
Section: net
Priority: optional
Maintainer: SixXS Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build-Depends: debhelper ( 3.0.0), libgnutls-dev
Standards-Version: 3.7.2

Package: aiccu
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, iputils-ping, iputils-tracepath, iproute,
debconf, lsb-base (= 1.3-9ubuntu2), gawk | awk
Recommends: ntpdate | ntp
Description: SixXS Automatic IPv6 Connectivity Client Utility
 This client automatically gives one IPv6 connectivity
 without having to manually configure interfaces etc.
 One does need a SixXS account and at least a tunnel. These
 can be freely  gratis requested from the SixXS website.
 For more information about SixXS check http://www.sixxs.net
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[Bug 79439] Re: New aiccu version 2007.01.15 released

2007-01-16 Thread Jeroen Massar
According to the news page at SixXS all old versions where deprecated
when 2007.01.07 was released, that is probably the problem there.

But fortunately the version from the download page simply works.
Just use a extra apt-repository in /etc/apt/sources.list and done ;)

It would be great though if Ubuntu also had this new version so that
Ubuntu is up to speed with the rest of the world.

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[Bug 79439] New aiccu version 2007.01.15 released

2007-01-15 Thread Jeroen Massar
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: aiccu

New package available from upstream at http://www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/

Including amd64, i386 and arm builds, based on Debian unstable, but run
perfectly fine on Ubuntu.

Debian Package can be built verbatim on Ubuntu from the tarball which is
supplied.

** Affects: aiccu (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Unconfirmed

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Re: [Bug 79439] Re: New aiccu version 2007.01.15 released

2007-01-15 Thread Jeroen Massar
Laurent Bigonville wrote:
 I see this new version too.
 
 Moreover I think that previous versions don't work anymore due to
 changed to the authentication system.

Can you elaborate on changes to the authentication system ?

As as far as I know nothing has changed there at all...

Greets,
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[Bug 72518] Re: Include aiccu in multiverse

2007-01-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
I, as the author of AICCU am really wondering:

* Why you are using diff's for this thing, while the original source tarball 
already contains perfectly working Debian packages
  (which are also available on the official site: 
http://www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/)

* Why the LICENSE file is missing, or did Ubuntu break the LICENSE by
just taking it out?

* Why the COPYRIGHT file is changed, or does Ubuntu not need to abide by
international COPYRIGHT law?

And of course above all:
* Where the peep you have gotten that broken 'diff' which will never work and 
will cause even more complaints to be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about some 
broken version somewhere on this planet, while my name is on it and other 
people broke it.

Thank you very much.

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Re: [Bug 72518] Re: Include aiccu in multiverse

2007-01-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
Richard Johnson wrote:
 Joeroen,

I know, it is a difficult name to cutpaste...

Constructive  important part below, if you don't want to read the rant
part, hit CTRL-F/the search menu/emacs-s/slash-s whatever and look for
Constructive Part.


I hope that you understand why the tone of this message is far from
nice, but try answering people that there is a bug, that it is fixed in
the official release, but that for some weird reason some people are
releasing broken versions in your (read my) name! It is heavily
frustrating, that is why you folks get this rant.


Skip reading the following part if you want to be constructive and get
to the point in resolving this issue.

Rant section is additionally marked with /end of rant
Skip to Constructive Part to avoid.

start of rant

 This is a debdiff, all it does is create a patch against the differences
 between the previous version and the current version. The reason you
 don't see that stuff is due to it being in the previous and it hasn't
 been changed with the current

You say that the 'debdiff' only includes the 'changes' in the new
upstream. Well then lets take a look at the at what the the old PATCH
actually does:
ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/aiccu/aiccu_20050131-1.diff.gz

The few sections of it:

--- aiccu-20050131.orig/debian/docs
+++ aiccu-20050131/debian/docs
@@ -1,3 +1,2 @@
 doc/README
-doc/LICENSE
 doc/HOWTO

It throws away the LICENSE as specified by the authors of the program.

--- aiccu-20050131.orig/debian/changelog
+++ aiccu-20050131/debian/changelog
@@ -0,0 +1,6 @@
+aiccu (20050131-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Initial release
+
+ -- Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:56:20 +1100
+

It throws out the original changelog and replaces it with nonsense.

And what is this:

--- aiccu-20050131.orig/debian/copyright
+++ aiccu-20050131/debian/copyright
@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+This package was debianized by Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
+Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:56:20 +1100

Who is that person? Gary Coady(*) added the debconf support and we
(SixXS) did the debian packaging, as the diff shows, that name is only
slapped on to change the COPYRIGHT file, as shown above and include a
!CHANGED! license in a !COPYRIGHT! file. Licenses != COPYRIGHT.

* = http://www.lyranthe.org/diary/2005/04/17/ipv6-on-ubuntu/
If there is anybody that did something on the packaging then it is Gary
Coady who deserves credit, not somebody who even did even has a SixXS
account to test anything of it, and clearly, as the diff shows only
added his name to it. Next to that the person contacted SixXS to ask if
the package could be included in Debian.


The Diff also patches this in, which does NOT come from us:
8
+[ summary: BSD-like but with two clauses (4) and (5) which make aiccu
non-free ]
8

That is clear nonsense and is NOT the license that SixXS applied, as
such it violates the license that SixXS applied to AICCU.

Also note:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=388759 also clearly
where Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) states:
8
The license has been discussed on #debian-release, and it's my understanding
that the old license was also DFSG-compliant in intent (with the help of
some clarifications from upstream that had already happened).
---8
The 'patch' adds that it is non-free, while one of the main people in
debian clearly says that it is fine.

So this debdiff patch, applies a WRONG license, and even defames the
packages this way. It also changes the COPRIGHT into a LICENSE file!?

Debian might have a lot of people who consider themselves laywers, but
changing copyrights and license files is not thing a thing that one
should be able to do.


. debdiff only pulls in the differences and
 applies them to the current version in the repositories.

If that is the 'difference' with the new one, when are you actually
going to use the REAL NEW one!? This patch doesn't include the fixes
that are included in 2007.01.07 as released by us.

And as it does not include the fixes, it is broken: that is AYIYA will
not work.

The official version does work though, see the first part above: users
will complain to us and we will have to say that the version released by
ubuntu is broken from the version released by us.

 If the license
 and copyright files, which I am sure they are, are already in the repos
 there is no need to reupload them.

They are, because Ubuntu choose to use a MODIFIED license which does not
match the original license. Changes LICENSES is the freedom of the
author, Ubuntu is NOT the author.

 This is done to save space here in
 the bug reports. If there wasn't a license or copyright in the package,
 then it wouldn't be in the repositories in the first place.

What a nonsense answer, if you want to save space reference simply to
the 

Re: [Bug 72518] Re: Include aiccu in multiverse

2007-01-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
Richard Johnson wrote:
 Jeroen,
 
 First I apologize for finger-fumbling your name. I did not know that the
 Current or the 2005 version was in fact wrong.

Which is why I am reporting this issue before it goes any further.
And I sincerely hope that it gets resolved in a proper manner.
The nasty tone is because I am fed up with all this political nonsense
and then seeing my code get broken because an upstream uploads it
wrongly. Pointing to other places to report bugs is not helping.
Saying that this is not the place to report this is not helping either.


Please resolve this!


 The version I used to create a debdiff was from YOUR website.

The version you used then was broken, as it does not result in the
official release. Trust me and try it yourself.

The code that results from applying the 'debdiff' that you made to:
ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/aiccu/

is VERY different from the code at the original sources:
http://www.sixxs.net/archive/sixxs/aiccu/unix/aiccu_20070107.tar.gz
or the https version;
https://noc.sixxs.net/archive/sixxs/aiccu/unix/aiccu_20070107.tar.gz

PLEASE verify that and check your md5sum's. What you are patching does
NOT result in the same code.

There is a real reason why I am writing these messages. Please check it.


 I noted that in the debdiff
 it adds your license back in.

[..]
 Also note that this debdiff also includes the correct changelog as
 provided by the 2007.tar.gz file I downloaded from your website.

The changelog gets removed by the patches that will be done by the
following debian patch:
ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/aiccu/aiccu_20050131-1.diff.gz

and that patch is NOT removed by the patch you are proposing.

 What Ubuntu has done in the past was not done by me, so I can't tell you
 word for word what their Policy on the Licensing is, as that is up for
 the higher-ups to work out.

If you claim to be the current maintainer, which according to launchpad
you are not, then it is your responsibility to make sure that that is
correct. If you are not able/capable to do so, then please explain
clearly in the bug report who the higher ups are who are responsible
and point those higher ups to this and make sure that it gets fixed.

I don't want to be involved in this bureaucracy mess, I just want to
have people actually being able to use the correct code. Not having to
have to do patches all over the place at distro's who make broken
patches. And certainly not having them complain that it is broken.


If you have a reason for providing a patch which breaks the code, then
please elaborate on why you took that decision. I am very interested in
hearing also why the LICENSE and COPYRIGHT is changed by somebody who
does not own the code and did not set the LICENSE nor owns any part of
the COPYRIGHT.


 All I did was create a debdiff from the
 current version in the repositories against the version available from
 your website.

As I mentioned before, and here again:

 It does *NOT* regenerate the original tarball.

 I know you may be upset, but just note that Malone, the Ubuntu Bug
 Tracker, is not the place to voice your rants.

Where else do people file reports then? Clearly if the problems are not
filed they are not cared for. The problem is caused by Ubuntu not by
another place. This is a bug in the Ubuntu package of aiccu, as such
hereby I file the bug. Be happy that I take the time for it, but then
again that is out of self interest to avoid complaining users and mayhem
because you are providing a broken version.


 It would be easier to be
 worked out by

  (a)emailing myself since I created the debdiff and working out

This bug report is reaching you not? So why should we mail you? The
'debdiff' as you call it is provided in this bug report and it states
that it is up for consideration. With these messages I am notifying you
that the proposed patch is broken.


Also how is it to be known that we should mail you?
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/ clearly reads:

8-
Latest release:  20050131-1
Uploaded By: Ubuntu Archive Auto-Sync
Maintainer: Anand Kumria

Bug contacts
For this package:
* Kai Kasurinen
---8

It does not list your name. Also I am filing this bug report against
Ubuntu, not against you. I have nothing against you. I have something
against the Ubuntu package being broken and broken patches to be added.


 (b)emailing one of the many developement lists or MOTU list for a
 solution, or

One of many development list which one exactly? And why not the bug
report?

Why does this bug report engine exist if one is not supposed to use it?


 (c) don't rant, but instead copy and paste the last half of
 your post here as hey this is how it should be.

That text is in the bug report, you can read it there, that is how it
should be.

It clearly states where to skip to if you are not happy with reading a
perfectly valid complaint about 

Re: [Bug 72518] Re: Include aiccu in multiverse

2007-01-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
Richard Johnson wrote:
[..]

Short reply, maybe a bit less nasty:

Did you TRY the code that results from your patches?

It might compile, yes, but does it actually work? - NO
And every person knowing how tunneling code works can tell you that by
just reading the source.

Do you understand the changes that you made to the code break the
functionality of the program?

Really, compare the official release with the version that you created
by doing the 'debdiff' and you will see that it is NOT the same.

Greets,
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