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Hi there,
I have just tried maern fix and it seems to be working on Ubuntu 11.10 at
present not tried a shut-down and cold boot thou.
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Hi there,
I experienced the same bug in Debian squeeze (stable) a while ago with my
floppy drive. The solution was quite simple:
Edit /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules and search for the lines
I implemented maeru's fix on two machines running 11.04. One has a
traditional motherboard floppy and one has an external USB floppy and
both appear to work now.
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@maeru,
Thanks for taking the time to share this.
This seems to almost work...
Clicking on the Floppy Disk icon in Nautilus (Places | Computer) causes the
icon to change.
When I click on that (new) icon, I get the following error message:
Error mounting: mount exited with error code 1:
I believe I solved my problem...
I noticed that my /etc/fstab file no longer had the user parameter for
fd0.
I added that back...
/dev/fd0/media/floppy autorw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
(As a side note, I had installed mountmanager, which overwrote my fstab
file, so be careful
I noticed a clunky process too. I don't recall getting an error message
but it took more clicks than should be necessary. Still a nice
improvement though.
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Here, we have been doing the following, simply creating two events using
'Create Launcher.'
One with the command udisks --mount /dev/fd0 for mounting floppy
disks.
One with the command sudo mformat -f 1440 a: for formatting floppy
disks.
And then simply having two Icons on the desktop.
This
To all.
Running Lucid GNOME 64-bit.
After (kernel) updates a few weeks ago, the floppy works here and still
does (checked it again before writing this).
I have udisks 1.0.1-1build1 installed + I added floppy (without the
quotes) to the /etc/modules file.
(* I also need the floppy working under
It is NOT a sollution (I know), but for those who REALLY need a floppy,
I suggest you use Puppy, Quirky or Wary. The floppy still works on
those.
If you should install one of them on harddisk, only 500 MB to 1GB partition is
needed.
Your floppy will be accessible and you can copy any file from
When I wrote:
If you should install one of them on harddisk, only 500 MB to 1GB partition is
needed.
I meant it to install it as a multi-boot system.
Otherwise it has no sense.
Sorry I didn't mention it in the post before.
Bert.
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Why nobody takes care about the upstream bugreport[1] over a year???
There's a simple fix for this issue:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=39751
[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30283
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György Balló [2011-09-29 13:00 -]:
Why nobody takes care about the upstream bugreport[1] over a year???
Please read the full bug report. We already wasted hours on trying to
fix it, and just gave up eventually :(
There's a simple fix for this issue:
@Martin: I think that this patch not against the long delay fix. It
reports that floppy is always available, and not probe it on boot.
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György Balló [2011-09-29 13:42 -]:
@Martin: I think that this patch not against the long delay fix. It
reports that floppy is always available, and not probe it on boot.
Yes, I've seen that, but it would again cause users of udisks to try
and do something with the floppy, and any access to
György,
Appreciate and understand your comment...
I wonder if it would be possible to have a configuration parameter
(detect_floppy) that can be manually set by a user?
This parameter would be false by default, bypassing accessing the controller
during boot.
Users who want floppy support could
hello Martin and all,
I'm happy to see you again, Martin, involved in this issue. on the
other hand v disappointed to see 'floppies are broken with
Linux'.. statement.
question Martin pls, re
...'Also, frankly I have no interest in doing so, as working around the
regressions is
peter b [2011-09-29 16:24 -]:
does this mean that there is no effort/work done/attention paid by linux
to fix this issue ?
Looks like it. As I mentioned on the mailing list, I'm happy to review
a patch to fix the automatic unmounting.
on a personal note that ties in with this - Martin
..'probing the existence of a floppy will lock up the process for 30
secs, and anything which waits on it (and moreover, it might even
cause locks on the IDE bus, so that other programs/drives lock as
well),'.
so I guess it is because of BIOS taking precedence. if that is so then
probably
I only follow this bug from time so I apologize if the following
suggestion is treading on old ground.
It is true that floppies are no longer the norm for most users, but
Linux/Ubuntu should still provide reasonable support since there remains
a mountain of expensive to replace hardware out there
Martin and all,
the url's below should be read in conjunction with #337; they underline
and support 'the BIOS pre-configuration of pc has always been less
than desirable as far as linux is concerned.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS
'Changing
Does anyone know if this will be fixed/included in Ubuntu Oneric (11.10)
?
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PJSingh5000 [2011-09-28 16:18 -]:
Does anyone know if this will be fixed/included in Ubuntu Oneric (11.10)
No, it won't. There is no fix for this right now.
GNOME 3.4 might switch to udisks2, which might or might not make this
better, but right now this is is still in development.
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It is fixed upstream since 10.10 but Ubuntu seem to be modifying udisks
so that it still does not work. Or probably this commit caused a
regression:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=ca93d4e2d9e7f483b2fde1725da086e2cca44164
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I also have the same bug, both on 10.04 and 10.10. I don't know for 11.04 or
earlier versions.
It affects both internal drives AND USB Floppy Drives.
I could make the two of them work by downgrading udisk to build1 version. It's
relatively easy on 10.04, but for 10.10 you have to do some
Same problem, but this works exellent for me:
sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0u1440 /media/floppy0 -o iocharset=utf8
for 1,44M formatted floppy disk. Maybe the problem is in recognition
disk size/type in the udisk module?
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I have not used the floppy drive in this computer for some time, but in
the last two weeks I tried about 15 different disks that I believe all
have data in a Microsoft Windows readable format. I have had 10.04
installed several times in the last month on this computer. The image
in #1 of Bug
I guess this is the same problem I have, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm on
10.10/amd64 and I (still) use my floppy drive semi-regularly because I
dumpster dive and thus prepare BIOS updates for older machines. Anyway,
I noticed that under my current installation, being 10.10/amd64 my
floppy does not
bert07 [2011-04-11 2:59 -]:
Martin, how come it works under xubuntu and not under ubuntu?
Are you talking about Xubuntu 11.04? Xubuntu now also switched to
udisks and friends, so I'd be really surprised if it worked there.
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natty beta1 with latest updates as of this writing installed. results
below
~$ sudo mformat -f 1440 A:
[sudo] password for peter:
~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
~$ cd /media/floppy0
:/media/floppy0$ ls -l
total 0
then
** under nautilus GUI file
@Peter b: I must be missing something... how does in any way relate to the
original description of this bug report?
Clicking on floppy gives no device media found
We've already established that the floppy can be mounted via the cli.
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I was just curious personally (I'm just an ordinary user) after #307,
#314 , #315 and #317 comments re natty natty-beta. I just conveyed my
experience with natty beta to Martin (the dev assigned, now #316 and
previous show something else) and to ..'and anyone interested.'.. ie
#307, #314
Xubuntu 10.10
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Martin, how come it works under xubuntu and not under ubuntu?
Are you talking about Xubuntu 11.04? Xubuntu now also switched to
udisks and friends, so I'd be really surprised if it worked there.
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Looks like this one persists in Natty Beta. Worse, I see no option in
Natty to downgrade to the old version of udisks as was the case in
Lucid.
I will note that some of us engineer types still rely on floppies to
record data. We do this because we are using older test instruments with
built in
Il 02/04/2011 18:27, John Ross ha scritto:
Looks like this one persists in Natty Beta. Worse, I see no option in
Natty to downgrade to the old version of udisks as was the case in
Lucid.
I will note that some of us engineer types still rely on floppies to
record data. We do this because we
Atlant's patch[1] from the upstream bugreport[2] solved the problem for
me on Arch Linux, so I can mount floppies from Nautilus again. Currently
all linux distributions that use udisks version 1.0.2 have broken floppy
support due the nonexistant floppy patch[3].
Please apply Atlant's patch to
it looks like good news.
when will ubuntu distros have new kernels compiled with the proposed
changes ? will lts lucid , maverick and upcoming natty enjoy the
proposed changes ?
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Wow, pretty disappointing that Ubuntu is unable to correctly deal with a
real floppy controller and phantom device properly.
...But that useless Floppy Drive entry in Nautilus sure looks spiffy
and well polished - and that's what counts, right?
Yes, I fully understand the above comment was
for sure a good, reliable distro does NOT need any ...'issue'
especially of very basic nature like this one (floppy).
personally I did NOT see anywhere, yet, any official announcement that
Ubuntu is to be used ONLY by computer literates/elites fully conversant
with CLI.
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On 02/08/2011 06:15 PM, nloewen wrote:
Natty is also affected.
It won't matter. Apparently it's more important to service laptop users
who can't figure out how to/or can't disable floppy in bios, and or who
are of the mindset that floppies are no longer necessary/used simply so
they can boot
The issue is that floppy disks are no longer auto-mounted on the GNOME
desktop. Floppy disks can easily be mounted at the command line, so what's
lost is a convenience, and one that matters most to novice users.
Contemporary personal computers rarely have floppy drives installed; it has
been many
Floppies are not obsolete until the last few users cease to use these.
The problem persists in »maverick« ubuntu 10-10 amd64
I need to write financial transaction data to floppy to get it done by
the bank.
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This bug affect even maverick, what version will be the next affected?
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Forget reprieve or you get old waiting ...
As it stands there are perfectly workable 2 solutions and 1 workaround:
1) Ubuntu solution:
- Do not use floppies. Flash BIOS (etc.) with your super-natural brain powers!
2) Sane person solution:
- Do not use Ubuntu.
3) Workaround (that is sure
Big discussion,big solutions,but problem is NOT permanently SOLVED yet. Only
downgrading helps.SHAME.
I'm using Ubuntu ONLY since 8.04 LTS,but because off floppy ,I was close to
give up and say sorry to win.Thats cannot be.
Is there any way for permanent fix? PLEASE do something if you can.I
One more brick:
10.04 LTS,amd64,kernel 2.6.32-26 with downgraded udisks.
floppy formatted ext2/4 filesystem:
Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
missing codepage or helper program, or other error
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peter b [2010-11-26 2:44 -]:
- the BIOS which is written in assembler (the fastest) detects the
floppy presence in fractions of a second.
Please see above. In the problematic case, the linux kernel and the
BIOS detect the floppy *controller*, and thus think that a floppy is
present. This
Then I think the proper solution would be to deactivate the floppy in
BIOS. Would this prevent 20s delay?
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Boys, boys...
Stop this discussion.
Main thing is: we still need the floppy.
I still need the floppy.
Make it work.
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yes Martin, taken and v clear; so, pls check my logic/procedure flow
about this whole issue
- kernel detects/not detects the presence of floppy controller (v fast - 20 sec
delays non-existent; let the BIOS think whatever it wants)
- feedback - y or n - stored
- IF n then DO NOT even bother/SKIP
Guys I do NOT care what you at UBUNTU are smoking but it must be good.
After reading good part of this, it is clear to me that Floppy support
is BROKEN BY PURPOSE per #271.
It is unacceptable that when one runs STUPIDLY BASIC CALL like mount
/dev/fd0 /dir this call _silently_ fails and Devs
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well, Milan and Igor, I'm amazed for a v long time how this issue is
treated on Ubuntu distros (by the way, this still IS a BIG ISSUE; why ?
because when a client at the v first contact with Ubuntu sees that a
BASIC device attached is not working is enough to just smile and say
sorry, I'm
peter b [2010-11-25 17:39 -]:
Is there a hidden agenda or maybe a list somewhere at Ubuntu that
specifies the devices to be installed and the ones deemed unworthy
of Ubuntu os attention because they are 'too old' and hence unworthy
of attention ?
Yes, we deliberately want to break stuff,
@ Martin,
the sad part is that the new, potential future ubuntu users are
immediately/(or later when discovered) discouraged using it because of
lack of support for the so called 'too old' devices; they will prefer
instead using ms win.
Martin, pls do not look at what follows as an intrusion
peter b [2010-11-25 21:12 -]:
Martin, pls do not look at what follows as an intrusion into your good
efforts in resolving this issue
To the contrary -- it seems this bug needs more thinking/involvement,
not less :-)
basics are still there with little changes ) ; I may be wrong in this
yes Martin, I duly understand your point.
I'm not familiar at all how ubuntu is internally organised when it comes
to who does what; just reading your reply it appears that there is a
different group of devs that 'look' after the kernel development,
functionality and its well being (for sure you
Floppy working in a live cd xubuntu 10.10
I have tried xubuntu 10.10 from live cd and got a floppy icon on the desktop.
It could be mounted, opened and I could read a file, but not write (only root
permission).
Later I have installed xubuntu desktop in an ubuntu 10.10 version. Here the
floppy
I use Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit, computer i.386
I mount the floppy with the command:
(suggested by Seppo Aarnio)
udisks --mount /dev/fd0
I Click on the icon that appears on the desktop screen,
it opens a blank window
I pick up any file (smaller that 1MB, example an image.jpg) and I drop it on
the
Just to help the spanish speaking ubuntu users, I wrote a webpage about
the solution to the bug 441835t:
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I did a new install of Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick
I can not mount the floppy, the situation remains the same.
Solution:
given that is not a fix available
given that the floppy is an obsolete media, by today's standards.
given that the DVD and the DVD/CDROM works.as long I don't try games with
After losing the use to the diskette, today I found myself with the
following surprise:
I have 1 DVD Write/Read
1 have 1 DVD / CDROM Write/Read
Genome ignore both of them
in /dev I have
fd0
sr0
sr1
scd0
scd1
in fstab
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0
Ubuntu 10.10 new installation
disquette display a messg: could not be mounted, no support in the unit, no
way I can enter it with genome.
I can copy and erase files in the disquette using the terminal.
I can copy and erase files using sudo nautilus,
openning /media and using the carpet floppy
Ubuntu 10.10 new installation
disquette display a messg: could not be mounted, no support in the unit, no
way I can enter it with genome.
I can copy and erase files in the disquette using the terminal.
NAUTILUS
I can copy and erase files using sudo nautilus, but I have to click in the
carpet
Confirm this bug under Maverick.
Media is detected correctly from a live-CD of Mandriva 2010.1
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U10.10, i386
I cannot mount floppy disk. No error but disk is not mounted.
$ sudo mount /media/floppy0/
mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
$ mount | grep media
$ sudo umount /media/floppy*
umount: /media/floppy: not mounted
umount: /media/floppy0: not mounted
I forget to notice that I think that floppy drive is OK, this is my
evidence:
$ sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 | hexdump -C | head
eb 3c 90 4d 53 44 4f 53 35 2e 30 00 02 01 01 00 |..MSDOS5.0.|
0010 02 e0 00 40 0b f0 09 00 12 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 |@|
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well gents, it appears that the floppy issue is still alive in maverick;
yesterday maverick amd64 final release installed and only the
...1build1 package is making the floppy problems disappear. is there a
chance to get this working package in the main maverick repos ?
I used it for months
peter b [2010-10-11 17:02 -]:
I used it for months on lucid without any apparent 'side effects'; are
there any reasons to hold it back on maverick ?
Yes, see bug 539515 and previous comments here.
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Clicking on floppy gives no device media found
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/441835
You
yes Martin, I fully understand your
.'Thus
the BIOS and Linux still detect a /dev/df0, but once you want to talk
to it, there is never an answer (because there is no floppy behind
it), and thus the calls just time out.'.
from #539515; I'm not a dev but logically thinking I ask myself
** Tags added: maverick
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Clicking on floppy gives no device media found
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Unfortunately, this issue is alive and exists in Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat. There
appears to be no way to mount a floppy disk in Maverick, all attempts result in
No media found. The drive exists in both 'Places' and when opening 'Places -
Computer'. There is an entry in /etc/fstab for the floppy,
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