[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Changed in: metacity Status: In Progress => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Madbiologist: thanks for clarifying. So I agree filing it as a new bug would be good. I'm not an appropriate person to do that, since I'm using Unity less and less, and even in the past I've only used LTS releases. I hope someone will pick this up. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
22/09/2015 17:21 "madbiologist" <160...@bugs.launchpad.net> : > > JohnWashington - This bug is about the default resize grab handle at > window borders being too small (1 pixel, or 4 pixels by some accounts) > to be easily usable. This has been fixed with the implementation of a > larger default resize grab handle (10 pixels I think). Why I cannot note this? It seems to me, that it's still needed to try to catch 4 pixels, not 10 or wider?.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@vedavata I imagine that it is because (according to comment #397 you are using Xubuntu. This bug is about Unity, where it has been fixed. If you have a problem on Xubuntu you should file a bug for that or extend this bug to Xubuntu. I don't know what the appropriate package on Xubuntu would be. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Madbiologist: you write "This bug is about the default resize grab handle at window borders being too small". Can I gently suggest you read the title of this problem report? "Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult" Window borders. Nothing about a resize grab handle (which I assume is the region in the lower right of some desktop's windows, is that so?). And also read the substance of post #1. It's about window borders. I'm sorry, but if you think the solution to a request for set-ability of window borders is to provide a feature in one corner of the window, I feel you've misunderstood. No doubt that feature is indeed a useful fix for some bugs and feature requests, but not, I believe, this one. So I would request this bug's status be changed. Fixed is not correct. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I am sorry for being unclear. I was referring to the entire edges of the window, not just the lower right corner. I didn't use the word "border" because now the area available for grabbing extends outside of the admittedly narrow border. All window borders are now surrounded by an invisible/transparent grabbable area, which is larger than it was when this bug was reported. I was hoping to demonstrate this with a screenshot but the mouse pointer does not show in screenshots. I agree that it would be even better if the size of this area was user- configurable, but that will probably receive more attention if filed as a new bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Seth, when you say 'Fix Released', does this mean that in System Settings there is now a means (using GUI tools only) for the user to modify the border width? Anything less than that is, to my mind, not a 'fix'. And I suspect many others with hand/eye coordination problems would agree it's not a fix. Ubuntu has traditionally aimed at inclusiveness, it should be striving to meet the needs of many, not just young people who are fortunate to have full health. Making the border width easily modifiable would be a step towards making it more inclusive. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
JohnWashington - This bug is about the default resize grab handle at window borders being too small (1 pixel, or 4 pixels by some accounts) to be easily usable. This has been fixed with the implementation of a larger default resize grab handle (10 pixels I think). The mouse pointer does not show up when I take a screenshot. If you want a user-configurable resize grab handle it is probably best to open a new bug report. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Using Xubuntu here too. This bug makes it VERY hard to resize windows. It is also very hard to resize other draggable items, such as bars dividing panes inside windows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On XUbuntu (XFCE Ubuntu) 14.10 and 15.04 this bug is still has place. :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@vedavrata this bug applies to Unity, and is effectively closed. If you are seeing a problem on Xubuntu then I suggest you file a new bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@colin-law no, this bug does not apply to Unity. This bug was filed years before Unity even existed. If it is fixed by changing to Unity, that's great for Unity users, but simply sweeping an issue under the rug because you changed window systems doesn't change the fact the the bug continues to exist in the windowing systems that the issue was reported against. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I don't even accept that it's adequately fixed in Unity (unless there's been significant progress since 14.04, for I only use LTS releases). I teach elderly users with little or no experience of computers. Naturally many don't have good hand/eye coordination, so they need to be able to adjust settings easily to make the system fit their needs. One would expect this to be found under Settings / Universal Access, but there is nothing there that addresses this issue. If you look at Windows XP (I'm not familiar enough with later versions to speak from memory) you can go into the control panel and set window borders to whatever width you want. After adjustment the result may not be as pretty, but when you're over 70 and unlikely to have a career in Hollywood, 'pretty' isn't high on your wish list, accessibility IS. Please consider addressing this. It would be a boon if you can get it done before 16.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@Jeremy Huddleston, I see you are right, apologies (except that the fix appeared only in Unity-3D, it was worse in Unity-2D than it was before Unity-2D appeared). Does Xubuntu use Metacity? If not then my point is still valid, that it would be best to file a new bug for Xubuntu if the problem exists there, describing in detail exactly what the problem is. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Alt-F8 triggers resizing windows in compiz/Unity as well! That's good to know. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Alt + F8 on MATE will activate resize for the currently selected window. ** Changed in: ubuntu-mate Status: New = Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I tested 15.04 Ubuntu MATE, Lubuntu and Xubuntu... e.g.: the file managers: * Xubuntu with thunar * Lubuntu with PCManFM * Ubuntu MATE with Caja The problem with the small resize area exist on all :( But the right/bottom area is big and good to grab on all three. (This is the special resize area) Only MATE has also a little bigger areas on top left and top right corners... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Adding ubuntu-mate, as its window manager also suffers from 1-pixel wide resize grab areas. This is one of the most immediately frustrating issues of any window manager, and it only gets worse as display pixel densities increase. ** Also affects: ubuntu-mate Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Here's a video recording of why 1-pixel grab bars are frustrating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeOldGSrsOg -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
The 2010-04-24, gaspard.leon wrote that this bug would be fixed in 2015. How are the newer 15.04 and 15.10 versions going relatively to this bug ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@Jluc I believe it has been long fixed and is not seen in 15.04 or later. As in the first paragraph of the bug description it will not be fixed in Unity-2D. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
After 7 years it is finally confirmed! :O -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Sam Spilsbury (smspillaz) wrote: 11.10 and onwards: Install mutter (sudo apt-get install mutter) and edit org.gnome.mutter 'draggable-border-width' in dconf-editor Aleve Sicofante (sicofante) wrote: What about 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 users? Can't you see there are complaints from users of these versions as well? I write: and onwards means 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10. Aleve - Which Ubuntu release and variety (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/GNOMEbuntu) are you using? I'm wondering if your implementation is not using gtk-window-decorator. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Sam Spilsbury - Is http://wiki.compiz.org/ meant to be empty? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Just one more question: why should I have to install mutter on plain Unity Ubuntu which doesn't use it at all? Sam Spilsbury (smspillaz) wrote: 11.10 and onwards: Install mutter (sudo apt-get install mutter) and edit org.gnome.mutter 'draggable-border-width' in dconf-editor -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
and onwards means 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10. My fault. You're right. Aleve - Which Ubuntu release and variety (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/GNOMEbuntu) are you using? I'm wondering if your implementation is not using gtk-window-decorator. Plain mainstream official Ubuntu 13.04. It works differently in a Macbook Pro A1150 (32 bits), a Lenovo T400, a Dell Studio 1537, a BTO workstation... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04 raring , resizing windows is a PITA. Please reopen. On top border are only 2 pixels available for resize, on the other borders seems to be 8 pixels. [I can't be sure because (of course) zooming in Universal Access is not working.] Also clicking outside the visible window to resize is counter intuitive. [I would take a better screenshot but (of course) setting a solid background doesn't work (except black to be precise)]. [I would attach a screenshot if I could include the mouse pointer in the picture. Even Shutter seems to show only the default pointer icon] The selection in corners is strange too: not symetric, tip of the pointer not consistent etc. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Why isn't this configurable in gconf/dconf or something? It seems every system behaves differently, which is quite weird (maybe it depends on the monitors resolution?) Please don't hardcode this and give us a workaround, at least until the touch OS is ready and resources come back to the desktop. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
This bug is going to be ignored unless you can get someone to revert the fix released status. I've contacted some of the people who set that status on this bug, and I suggest that others do the same. Personally I have no stake in this any more, since I ditched Ubuntu proper and have been using derivatives such as Xubuntu, Mint and XMBCBuntu that do not use Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
And who are those Masters of the Universe who can revert the fix released status? 2013/7/29 Ben Shadwick benshadw...@gmail.com This bug is going to be ignored unless you can get someone to revert the fix released status. I've contacted some of the people who set that status on this bug, and I suggest that others do the same. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Please stop asking to revert the status of this bug. It is fine as is: 1. This bug was fixed in compiz and Unity in 11.04 (two years ago now). The left, right and bottom window borders now have a ten-pixel each-way grab area. 2. A similar grab area was added to the top border in 13.04 3. If no such grab area exists and you are running Unity 3D, you can configure the borders so that they do exist: 11.04: Open /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml and edit the padding tags under frame_tyle with the name normal_focused and normal_unfocused and add left=left_padding right=right_padding bottom=bottom_padding 11.10 and onwards: Install mutter (sudo apt-get install mutter) and edit org.gnome.mutter 'draggable-border-width' in dconf-editor 4. No such grab area exists in Unity 2D. It will not be added to Unity 2D because it would entail making metacity into a non-simple compositing manager. Unity 2D was designed to be run without any hardware acceleration. As such, the Unity 2D bug status is, and will remain Invalid. 5. This bug is only fixed in Unity 3D. Any similar issues with other desktop environments (gnome-classic, xfce, kde) should be reported to the relevant upstream. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/7/29 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Please stop asking to revert the status of this bug. It is fine as is: 1. This bug was fixed in compiz and Unity in 11.04 (two years ago now). The left, right and bottom window borders now have a ten-pixel each-way grab area. This is plain false. Wanna come over my place to see it for yourself? 2. A similar grab area was added to the top border in 13.04 Again, this can be proved false on many computers. I can show you a few. 3. If no such grab area exists In other words: such grab area might not exist, so how on Earth can you say this is fixed? and you are running Unity 3D, you can configure the borders so that they do exist: 11.04: Open /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml and edit the padding tags under frame_tyle with the name normal_focused and normal_unfocused and add left=left_padding right=right_padding bottom=bottom_padding 11.10 and onwards: Install mutter (sudo apt-get install mutter) and edit org.gnome.mutter 'draggable-border-width' in dconf-editor What about 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 users? Can't you see there are complaints from users of these versions as well? 5. This bug is only fixed in Unity 3D. Any similar issues with other desktop environments (gnome-classic, xfce, kde) should be reported to the relevant upstream. This bug IS NOT FIXED. Just saying so won't magically change facts. And the facts show very clearly LOTS of people have a really hard time grabbing windows borders. Some people experience it at the top of the windows, some at the sides, some at the bottom... (and we're not even talking about the elusive target of Nautilus' sidebar resizing handle...). I'm no developer so I can't imagine how you guys go about this thing, but it behaving differently for different users on different computers should tell you something. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
1. This bug was fixed in compiz and Unity in 11.04 (two years ago now). The left, right and bottom window borders now have a ten-pixel each-way grab area. How much pixels have the top and bottom? Was fixed and now it's the same? I've counted only 8, not 10 on left and right. How about the corners? Is there an image which shows the invisible border? 2. A similar grab area was added to the top border in 13.04 2 pixels top border grab area in http://mirrors.melbourne.co.uk/ubuntu-releases//raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso , installed yesterday and also updated. The single difference from the standard is a newer kernel, to fix a bug with video camera http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc2-saucy/ . But then again, this video/microphone bug was also fixed sometunes in 3.5, so it shouldn't be back again. Should I download another 13.04 Ubuntu version? 3. If no such grab area exists and you are running Unity 3D, I should (re)open a ticket, but it's too freaking hard, because bug has been solved. The same way as bug #1 probably. This is not one of a 100 paper cuts, this is like smashing your hand with a hammer. Not being able to change the background to a solid color is a paper cut. After using computers for the last 15 years almost every day, more than 8 hours a day, and coming again to Ubuntu to see how it's doing, and being greeted by a crippled interface, it's saddening. But not so much as the attitude of not seeing how broken the usability is. 4. No such grab area exists in Unity 2D. Not using 2D, as far as I know. 5. This bug is only fixed in Unity 3D. This bug was (probably) fixed in Unity 3D. Can you tell me on what computer configuration runs the automated test which measures this grab border? Canonical should close all regression bugs, because they were once fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
With current 12.04 LTS it is impossible to grab the border or the corner of the window at first time. Maybe my screen is too big (20) so it makes the border too thin. It takes many try to manage to get it. Spending so much time just to resize a window is all the more painfull since i want to concentrate on my work, not on such basic UI actions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
In a fresh 12.04 install it is next to impossible to grab the bottom right or bottom left resize handle (firefox, pidgin, avidemux) vexacious Unity -- an open house divided cannot sell. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Also affects: emerald Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Still broken. Fresh install 12.04.2. Just looking at the logs using the GUI log viewer is nearly impossible as I cannot resize the log viewer window. This finally got me annoyed enough to add to this mega bug report. The border appears to be 1px wide. Please fix this. It is an LTS release afterall right? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I use the attached script to increase the window borders to 4 pixels in ubuntu-2D and gnome-fallback. It must be placed in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and works in precise by writing configuration files in the directory $HOME/.themes of the current user. ** Attachment added: 50_light-themes-borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/3508550/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
It seems that the attachment was not included in the previous message. ** Attachment added: Increase light themeswindows borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/3508551/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. And no, it's not funny seeing how a basic usability like this is not being properly addressed after six years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. Code-wise its exactly the same for the right, left and bottom borders. The top border doesn't have the padding as it already has a grab area on the titlebar. And no, it's not funny seeing how a basic usability like this is not being properly addressed after six years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. Code-wise its exactly the same for the right, left and bottom borders. The top border doesn't have the padding as it already has a grab area on the titlebar. That's why we call it a bug: probably you see the code being correct, but since the behavior isn't, there's something going on and it must be fixed. The grab area in the titlebar has nothing to do with the resizing area (or shouldn't). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** No longer affects: metacity (Ubuntu Maverick) ** No longer affects: metacity (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: unity-2d Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@sicofante; window title bar resizing issue is a different bug, see bug #717444 This change is signed off and is now waiting for someone to implement it, also see vanvugt's comment as to the original reason for this bug in the comments of the bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: That's why we call it a bug: probably you see the code being correct, but since the behavior isn't, there's something going on and it must be fixed. The grab area in the titlebar has nothing to do with the resizing area (or shouldn't). Please, feel free to report an another bug about that. There is a detailed guide on how you can do that here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs It does not make any sense to continue a discussion on an old bug report that is about a totally different issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Sam, I'm running Emerald on Raring, so maybe that is why - but here grabbing window borders to initiate a resize is still very fuzzy... We maybe should retest and revisit this issue for 13.04 ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Andrea Corbellini corbellini.and...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: It does not make any sense to continue a discussion on an old bug report that is about a totally different issue. Excuse me? The title and description of this bug is EXACTLY the issue. The fact that it's not about Metacity anymore, but about Unity-3D doesn't make the slightest difference. Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is INDEED difficult after all these years, and a fix is needed for the current window manager. Whoever has the power to do that, please add Unity-3D as a project affected by this bug. Then let's try to fix it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Just added Unity as a project affected by this bug. ** Also affects: unity Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Dear Aleve, Please, do not modify this old bug. You are wasting contributors' time. As John Lea has already pointed out, the issue you are describing has already been reported as bug #717444. The reason why this bug should remain closed is that a fix has already been written for it. If you are still affected by the bug, then the root cause may be totally different. 'Symptoms' and 'causes' are totally different concepts, and for the propuse of this bug tracker we only look at causes (because we fix the causes, not the symptoms). I'm sorry that you are having difficulties, but this is not the right place to discuss. ** Changed in: unity Status: New = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Aleve - I think what Andrea was trying to say is what John Lea subsequently said - the specific bug for the window title bar/top border resizing issue is bug #717444. However that does ignore your first paragraph about the left border being more difficult to grab than the bottom and right borders. It is a puzzling dilemma about whether the latter should be opened as a new bug or not - technically it might have a different cause, but usability-wise it has the same effect. What really annoys me is the comments made by Sam Spilsbury: 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to metacity's frame display code If I understand this bug's description correctly, this problem exists in Unity-2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin. This is an LTS release - according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases it will be supported on both the desktop and the server until April 2017. This should mean fully and wholly supported, not partly supported. I also disagree with marking this bug's unity-2d task as Invalid while the upstream GNOME bug is still open as this implies that even if GNOME were to develop and deploy a fix, Ubuntu would not adopt the fix. And of course the fact that GNOME are considering fixing this issue should not in any way preclude Ubuntu from attempting to fix it. 3. Comments like these are not helpful. Sam - these comments are not intended to help you. They are intended to help the people using Unity-2D on Precise. And even if the issue of providing full-support for Precise were to be sadly and frustratingly ignored, advising people using Unity-2D on Precise to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal is unlikely to help matters, due to the fact that if their GPU is too old/weak to run Unity-3D then their CPU is also likely to be too old/weak to run Unity-3D using the LLVMpipe fallback code - see bug 1046497 and bug 1055936. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
To Andrea, Sam, and other developers: The title of this bug is broad and describes a problem encountered in multiple window managers. That is what draws people to this bug. I would suggest that you edit the title and narrow it to describe the manager(s) in which it has been fixed, and to add text to the beginning of the description to point to the specific bugs filed for other window managers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
If I understand this bug's description correctly, this problem exists in Unity-2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin. This is an LTS release - according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases it will be supported on both the desktop and the server until April 2017. This should mean fully and wholly supported, not partly supported. That's true, but 'supported' means security and severe bug fixes only. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#When for more information. I also disagree with marking this bug's unity-2d task as Invalid while the upstream GNOME bug is still open Also, you should note that the situation in the GNOME bug is a bit different. Firstly, there is no consensus on whether Metacity or the theme(s) should be fixed. Secondly, whilist Metacity has not been deprecated (AFAIK), it is no longer the development focus of GNOME. In fact, the last comment made by a developer was made on 2011-01-10. as this implies that even if GNOME were to develop and deploy a fix, Ubuntu would not adopt the fix. I removed the metacity task just to make it clear that this bug is closed and to reduce the bug noise. This does not imply that if a fix is released by GNOME, then it won't be adopted by Ubuntu. We do not 'filter' upstream code. If Metacity makes a new release with the fix included, then it will just be packaged. And of course the fact that GNOME are considering fixing this issue should not in any way preclude Ubuntu from attempting to fix it. Again, you are free to open a bug about it, although I doubt it will be fixed as there are no developers working on Metacity on Ubuntu. Anyhow, the point is: this particular one is too old and too long to be useful. Your opinions are welcome, but if you continue posting here, they will just be ignored. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Andrea - thank you for your comments. I do appreciate your attention to my concerns. I have one final question before I shut up. What is your/Canonical's advice to users experiencing this bug on Unity- 2D on Precise? There are a few workarounds presented/discussed in this bug report, but in would be good to know the official Canonical recommendation. And can that advice be added to the release notes for Ubuntu 12.04.02 (and possibly 12.04 and 12.04.1 as well) on the Ubuntu Wiki? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Andrea Corbellini corbellini.and...@gmail.com: Dear Aleve, Please, do not modify this old bug. You are wasting contributors' time. As John Lea has already pointed out, the issue you are describing has already been reported as bug #717444. The reason why this bug should remain closed is that a fix has already been written for it. If you are still affected by the bug, then the root cause may be totally different. 'Symptoms' and 'causes' are totally different concepts, and for the propuse of this bug tracker we only look at causes (because we fix the causes, not the symptoms). I'm sorry that you are having difficulties, but this is not the right place to discuss. ** Changed in: unity Status: New = Fix Released Dear Andrea: This bug is NOT fixed in Unity, so Fix Released is a plain lie. I kindly suggest you change the status ASAP. The title and description of this bug define perfectly well what happens not just in my system, but in many others. As a matter of fact, I have read people complaining about the reverse of my own situation: they can grab the resizing handlers easily at the top and the left, but not at the right and bottom. Resizing handlers are definitely broken in Unity. Do you prefer to open a new bug with exactly the same title and description as this one but referred only to Unity? Be my guest. But that's exactly the case. The title and description perfectly match what's going on TODAY on Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10. The bug suggested by John Lea is the one which should be closed, deleted or marked as a duplicate, since it's just a particular case of this bug (it refers ONLY to the top handler). In no way it defines COMPLETELY what I and others are experiencing regarding windows resizing in Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, MC Return 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Sam, I'm running Emerald on Raring, so maybe that is why - but here grabbing window borders to initiate a resize is still very fuzzy... We maybe should retest and revisit this issue for 13.04 ? The invisible border logic is only implemented in gtk-window-decorator. It would have to be implemented on a per-decorator basis. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Dan Halbert halb...@halwitz.org wrote: To Andrea, Sam, and other developers: The title of this bug is broad and describes a problem encountered in multiple window managers. That is what draws people to this bug. I would suggest that you edit the title and narrow it to describe the manager(s) in which it has been fixed, and to add text to the beginning of the description to point to the specific bugs filed for other window managers. I agree. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:36 PM, madbiologist 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Aleve - I think what Andrea was trying to say is what John Lea subsequently said - the specific bug for the window title bar/top border resizing issue is bug #717444. However that does ignore your first paragraph about the left border being more difficult to grab than the bottom and right borders. It is a puzzling dilemma about whether the latter should be opened as a new bug or not - technically it might have a different cause, but usability-wise it has the same effect. What really annoys me is the comments made by Sam Spilsbury: 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to metacity's frame display code If I understand this bug's description correctly, this problem exists in Unity-2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin. This is an LTS release - according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases it will be supported on both the desktop and the server until April 2017. This should mean fully and wholly supported, not partly supported. I also disagree with marking this bug's unity-2d task as Invalid while the upstream GNOME bug is still open as this implies that even if GNOME were to develop and deploy a fix, Ubuntu would not adopt the fix. And of course the fact that GNOME are considering fixing this issue should not in any way preclude Ubuntu from attempting to fix it. Of course there would be no preclusion from including such a fix if it were to be done. What I'm saying is that I've worked extensively on multiple window managers, and I can tell you with a lot of confidence that implementing the same kind of invisible padding that we have in compiz inside of metacity would not be an easy task, and as such, isn't going to be a priority any time soon as far as I can tell. Those who worked on this functionality for compiz (myself and Thomas) no longer work for Canonical, and have no intention of implementing it inside of metacity. 3. Comments like these are not helpful. Sam - these comments are not intended to help you. They are intended to help the people using Unity-2D on Precise. And even if the issue of providing full-support for Precise were to be sadly and frustratingly ignored, advising people using Unity-2D on Precise to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal is unlikely to help matters, due to the fact that if their GPU is too old/weak to run Unity-3D then their CPU is also likely to be too old/weak to run Unity-3D using the LLVMpipe fallback code - see bug 1046497 and bug 1055936. If you have a GPU that is too old to run unity-3D, you will likely have trouble running unity-2D as well. Both are hardware accelerated (in different ways, the former using OpenGL, the latter using XRender). I understand the providing support for precise is important, but the reality is that Canonical wasn't ever structured to do that. Basically the entire team that worked on the Unity shell from 11.04 - 12.04 has moved on from the company. As far as I'm aware, patches are accepted for the older codebases, but actively supporting older releases, especially for a product that is free of charge wouldn't be a large part of any corporate strategy. Think staff training costs, patch burdens over multiple releases etc. In any case, I didn't meant to offend, and I apologize if my frank tone was offensive. What I meant to cover with my third point was stuff like this (which you will notice my comment was in direct reply to): Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Having a nagging tone with developers doesn't actually promote your bug in the queue. In fact, its a real turn off for most developers, and will likely cause them to ignore or mentally reduce the importance of the bug or reporter in question. As the person who spent a few weeks perfecting the implementation of this fix, I find it offensive that others would comment on bug reports with such ignorance. Its a continual theme across multiple bug reports on multiple open source projects and I can assure you its a very common cause of developer de-motivation, burnout, frustration, depression and eventually departure. Commentators should keep this in mind when posting. Developers thrive from co-operation and common enthusiasm. They don't thrive in environments when someone tries to tell them that item #217 out of 480 on their list if apparently more important than anything else. -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Andrea Corbellini corbellini.and...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: It does not make any sense to continue a discussion on an old bug report that is about a totally different issue. Excuse me? The title and description of this bug is EXACTLY the issue. The fact that it's not about Metacity anymore, but about Unity-3D doesn't make the slightest difference. Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is INDEED difficult after all these years, and a fix is needed for the current window manager. Whoever has the power to do that, please add Unity-3D as a project affected by this bug. Then let's try to fix it. Aleve, if you are still having problems resizing windows you can bump up the padding around the window. If I remember correctly its in the key org.gnome.mutter:draggable-border-width -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
The invisible border logic is only implemented in gtk-window- decorator. It would have to be implemented on a per-decorator basis. Oh, I see. Thanks for the fast reply. Seems like gtk-window-decorator is more advanced in this case than Emerald. :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I see my comment is helpful after all. Because now I know this bug never gonna be fixed in Unity 2D, which is strange.. because it is still part of the current and future window manager of the almighty Ubuntu. So I really don't see any reason to not solve this critical issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Aleve, if you are still having problems resizing windows you can bump up the padding around the window. If I remember correctly its in the key org.gnome.mutter:draggable-border-width There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
OpenLaptop - Unity-2D is not part of the future window manger of Ubuntu. Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal and later only have Unity-3D, which uses the LLVMpipe software driver if the GPU is not capable of running Unity- 3D. That still leaves over 4 years of Unity-2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Aleve, if you are still having problems resizing windows you can bump up the padding around the window. If I remember correctly its in the key org.gnome.mutter:draggable-border-width There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... gtk-window-decorator integrates with the mutter keys. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/2/1 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... gtk-window-decorator integrates with the mutter keys. Lovely, but there's stil no org.gnome.mutter:draggable- border-width key in my Unity-only installation's dconf. Actually, there's nothing like org.gnome.mutter there. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/2/1 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... gtk-window-decorator integrates with the mutter keys. Lovely, but there's stil no org.gnome.mutter:draggable- border-width key in my Unity-only installation's dconf. Actually, there's nothing like org.gnome.mutter there. Ah, I believe I made it so that if mutter wasn't installed, it just uses the default value of 10px, as there was very little usecase for making it configurable. If you want to adjust it, you'll have to install mutter, and adjusting that setting will adjust the draggable border width on both mutter and unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/2/1 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Ah, I believe I made it so that if mutter wasn't installed, it just uses the default value of 10px, as there was very little usecase for making it configurable. If you want to adjust it, you'll have to install mutter, and adjusting that setting will adjust the draggable border width on both mutter and unity. Thanks. I might do that. I still urge the developers to either add such a key to dconf or just fix the issue in Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to metacity's frame display code 3. Comments like these are not helpful. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I wonder who ever decided to have the window borders not configurable. I work on a large screen and easily get RSI problems when I use the mouse too much. Thus I use a wacom tablet with a stylus pen additionally as a mouse enhancement. I always work with multiple windows and frequently rearrange them to suite my needs. I also use focus follows mouse WITHOUT autoraise as I want to be able to cut and paste from a lower window to a top window without windows changing their order. I also want to type in a terminal which is half covered from firefox withouth the terminal coming to top and burying the browser text. That said I want to resize my windows at ANY border not just in the corners or from the title bar. On KDE 2 which I used for years this was no problem but with latest desktops the ergonomics seem to be overruled by designers. I wish every GUI designer be at least 50 years of age so that eyesight degrading and parkinsons symptoms are on the verge :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hi. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, latimerio 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: That said I want to resize my windows at ANY border not just in the corners or from the title bar. You already can. There's a small amount of invisible padding on every side of the window in Unity3D. This has been the only desktop installed since 12.10, and is the default desktop since 11.04. Click and drag around the edges to resize the window. Done. -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: + This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. + It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). + * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** No longer affects: human-gtk-theme (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: human-gtk-theme (Ubuntu Maverick) ** No longer affects: light-themes (Ubuntu Maverick) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * + + Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most + comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
This bug is really annoying. Sufficiently annoying that I registered an account on launchpad just to post this comment. I just got upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 on a machine where have no root access, so I can't hack any of the settings. It seems my only real option is to abandon gnome and use a different window manager. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
just want to say for those still stuck with this bug, and I'm not sure it's an option for you all. But I moved to lxde, and you might want to try a different window manager. This bug has been so persistent for so long I'm you might want to try and just find your own workround, i.e. a different window manager. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Yeah, my ultimate fix was to switch to Xubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Not likely. Adding the invisible window borders to metacity's non-composited mode is likely a nontrivial affair. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. ah, thanks for that hint which explains while this bug is still on confirmed critical for unity-2d. lets see then if unity-2d ever will be fixed =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hey, five years and a half and grabbing handlers (not just windows resizers) is still buggy in Ubuntu. What puzzles me is, why is it easy to grab the left, right and bottom edges of the screen and it's almost imposible to grab the top edge, pane borders in some apps and many other handlers? Isn't there a single way for grabbing a handler? Shouldn't it be? What's so difficult about it that it's taking those many years for such a basic feature on a GUI? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I suspect it's because they want to emulate how the Mac UI works, and the Mac only lets you grab the lower right corner. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
just seems to follow the trend of our time that others seem to know better whats good for you and use their power and ignorance to stick to their conviction ;) contrary to aleve (#333) i find it harder to grab any edge other than the top one (i'm on unity-2d). often having to use the touchpad of my notebook and resizing windows though it has been a pain for a long time now and its sad that the situation has not really improved. at least this issue seems to have got some attention as hundredpapercuts seems to have this on their list. i just wonder where their fix (status released) will become visible... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: just seems to follow the trend of our time that others seem to know better whats good for you and use their power and ignorance to stick to their conviction ;) contrary to aleve (#333) i find it harder to grab any edge other than the top one (i'm on unity-2d). often having to use the touchpad of my notebook and resizing windows though it has been a pain for a long time now and its sad that the situation has not really improved. at least this issue seems to have got some attention as hundredpapercuts seems to have this on their list. i just wonder where their fix (status released) will become visible... -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. ah, thanks for that hint which explains while this bug is still on confirmed critical for unity-2d. lets see then if unity-2d ever will be fixed =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I'm using 12.10 and resizing windows is very very hard. I find it a pity because it's such a basic usability problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Where's the bug for 12.10? Google doesn't find it, and the top border is still almost impossible to grab in Unity (3D). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I meant 10.12 :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Same problem with Ubuntu 12.10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@Pere, I presume in fact you /did/ mean 12.10 as there was no 10.12. Since this bug is only for Unity-2d and there is no Unity-2d then this bug is not applicable to 12.10. If you are seeing it in the latest Unity then it is a different bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Sorry for that, and yes, it's a different bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Is there a bug open for Unity3D? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Launchpad supports tracking a bug affecting multiple packages/projects, including tracking state and unique fixes for each of them. I don't see why Unity3D could not be tagged as affected if it indeed is. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Steve: because this bug is only about unity 2d with metacity. If you have an issue on unity (3d) then it is a different bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Importance: Wishlist = High ** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
The workaround in the first comment (editing the theme XML) works great. Is there any chance of seeing this in Quantal, or is Metacity considered dead in favor of Compiz as far as Canonical is concerned? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
As I understand it unity-2d is to be removed in Quantal(12.10), emulation of 3d being provided by llvmpipe for hardware that does not support it, so that Unity (3d) will run. From that point of view it appears that this bug becomes irrelevant from 12.10. That is unless there are other use cases. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 August 2012 20:51, Colin Law 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: As I understand it unity-2d is to be removed in Quantal(12.10), emulation of 3d being provided by llvmpipe for hardware that does not support it, so that Unity (3d) will run. From that point of view it appears that this bug becomes irrelevant from 12.10. That is unless there are other use cases. My laptop (Alienware m15x) has always ran Unity 3d and I've always been presented with a touchpad that was unusable for consistently being able to resize a window. Why is removing Unity 2d going to make this any better? -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. + + For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). + Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: * - No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I recently installed xubuntu 12.04 and the 1px thing makes it impossible for me. I've always had problems with window borders, I'm spazzy with the mouse, but until now I've always been able to configure it larger. But with 12.04, I've tried everything. I've changed the metacity-theme-1.xml file, somebody told me the size was based on the actual png image, so I changed all of those. Others have said try a different theme. I've done that plenty too. I'm a programmer, I get it, I'm willing to do whatever, but how can I actually go about changing the border width? I don't need you guys to change the defaults or make a pretty UI to make it configurable (though that would be nice) just tell me the byte offset in what file I need to make it bigger and I will be happy to do it myself, but nothing I do works. Help? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
