[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-13 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks for the FFe. I'll take care of uploading it shortly, if somebody have modification to include. ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: David Sugar (dyfet) = Julien Lavergne (gilir) -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-13 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Un-subscribing universe-sponsors as Julien is on it, and he no longer needs a sponsor. =) -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-13 Thread Julien Lavergne
version 0.4 uploaded, waiting in NEW. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
Through New as well and in the archive. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-12 Thread StefanPotyra
Hi, sorry for not having made it clear yet. As I asked ogra and he gave a +1 I certainly do second this position. FFe granted hence, please go ahead. Cheers, and sorry again for the delay, Stefan. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-11 Thread David Sugar
** Changed in: ubuntu Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: (unassigned) = David Sugar (dyfet) -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-08 Thread Julien Lavergne
Just to have a clarification, is the open-team a blocker for MOTU-Release ACK ? Even if it could generate some problems in Lubuntu team itself, a MOTU sponsorship is still needed to modify the seed package in the archive. This open-team issue is still under discussion in the Lubuntu team. --

Re: [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
I don't see it as a blocker. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
i'm definately for adding the metapackage to universe (even though requesting it early enough pre FF would have been a lot nicer) but i fully agree with scotts suggestion here, having an open and completely uncontrolled team anyone can subscribe to in control of the seeds seems very dangerous

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging]lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread hagisbasheruk
Mario wrote I suggest to meet on IRC freenode #lubuntu on Sep. 6, 15.00 GMT http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=5month=9year=2009hour=15min=0sec=0p1=0 Mario you wrote to meet on IRC freenode #lubuntu on Sep. 6, 15.00 GMT But the link you gave is for today the 5th of Sept @

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging]lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread Mario Behling
Mario you wrote to meet on IRC freenode #lubuntu on Sep. 6, 15.00 GMT But the link you gave is for today the 5th of Sept @ 15.00 UTC. Great Britain/United Kingdom is one hour ahead of UTC during summer. Which gives us a meeting time of 14.00 local time here in the UK Could you please clarify

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:23 AM, David Sugar wrote: Second, I suggest given that UDS for Karmic +1 is likely going to be in two months, that we draft a new spec for that UDS for/from and most especially WITH the Lubuntu team and community.  Indeed, it is the approach of UDS is one reason I

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:49 AM, hagisbasheruk wrote: I suggest that you try to minimize any use of gnome libs as possible, use slim instead of gdm, use Wicd for network as lxnw is too limited right now, aumix-gtk for mixer and a program to add menu entries. 1) slim has not been packaged.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
Just as a general suggestion, the needs packaging bug probably isn't the best venue for these meta Lubuntu discussions. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
** Changed in: pam (Debian) Status: New = Invalid -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread David Sugar
This really did not get handled correctly at the start of the week as we were requested to have this in a hurry and then learned after it could not be sponsored prior to the ffe process. I have put it in revu to correct any outstanding issue so that it can at least be properly evaluated.

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread StefanPotyra
Hi, just subscribed ogra and StevenK. ogra: you've registered the spec in the first place, how do you feel about adding that meta package at this point in the release cycle? I assume this mainly impacts MID? @StevenK: If this mainly impacts MID, then I guess it's your domain ;). Cheers,

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
In principle adding a metapackage is not a big deal. Do you expect ISO images for lubuntu to be built on Launchpad? Do you have a governance process for deciding what should be in the package? -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread David Sugar
Scott, it was not anticipated there would be spins hosted on Launchpad for Lubuntu for Karmic, just the meta package. What happens Karmic +X though may become a different question. There is a launchpad team for Lubuntu, and there is a process for community input through the wiki, but not a

Re: [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
OK. My concern is that there be some agreement on what goes in this metapackage before it gets approved to go in, so we don't have a lot of contention afterwards (I'm not saying adjustments won't be needed). -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
Additionally, the seeds are currently controlled by an open team with 118 members. I do not see this as a recipe for success. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Dallas Wiebelhaus
Scott , We are all grown folks and we also understand that David Sugar is more or less the boss here , There will be no foul play. Now let's be positive and congratulate everyone on a job well done and wish everyone a Fantastic week end of whatever tickles your fancy! Cheers folks! It's POETS.

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread David Sugar
Lol! While I appreciate the vote of confidence, the goal was NEVER to have a dictatorship, benevolent or otherwise! I think what Scott says about some form of formalizing governance is actually very correct. However, the meta package (any meta-package instance) has a snapshot instance of the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Rebentisch
2009/9/4 David Sugar david.su...@canonical.com There is a launchpad team for Lubuntu, and there is a process for community input through the wiki, but not a formal governance process as yet, What precisely is required, and how could the LXDE Foundation provide assistance? -- A -- [needs

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Steve Langasek
gah - sorry, wrong bug... ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #545086 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545086 ** Also affects: pam (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545086 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: pam

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sounds to me like you are moving in the right direction. +1. I'll volunteer to do the archive admin review after it's uploaded. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread hagisbasheruk
i have been running LXDE from a cli install on my Tatung / RM – RTABB12D using both a genkernel and a custom built onefor quite some time now. I suggest that you try to minimize any use of gnome libs as possible, use slim instead of gdm, use Wicd for network as lxnw is too limited right

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Mario Behling
Thank you for the input about the ISO that was tested. As stated the ISO is not a final release. Some of the changes you suggested have already been incorporated. Others will be as we go on. We will soon be uploading a new test iso. All the best, Mario On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Mario Behling
Hi, On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:13 PM, David Sugardavid.su...@canonical.com wrote: Lol!  While I appreciate the vote of confidence, the goal was NEVER to have a dictatorship, benevolent or otherwise! Thanks for making this clear. The goal for lubuntu was from the start to build a strong and

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread David Sugar
Thanks for making this clear. The goal for lubuntu was from the start to build a strong and broad community, that can take care of tasks. For example Debian packages that have been made available during recent months by Andrew Lee and others were also planned and released to lay the

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-03 Thread Julien Lavergne
Just to put some wording for the FFe request for MOTU Release : This a new meta-package to build a new flavor for Ubuntu, base on LXDE. Please consider the FFe as it blocks the work on official ISO and standard installation, and also progress on this new flavor. You can see more information

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-03 Thread ashgtx
Why do we need both Mirage and GPicView at the same time? GPicView has a much better user interface. Why not stick to that? -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-01 Thread actionparsnip
I suggest putting the LXDE icon in the centre of the circle much like Xubuntu puts the XFCE mouse in te logo. 2009/9/1 Martin-Éric Racine q-f...@iki.fi The blue theme doesn't differentiate enough from KDE. We need to use other colors. How about these? (attachment) ** Attachment added:

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-01 Thread David Sugar
This had to be in this morning, so I only had time to incorporate Martin-Éric Racine's changes to the meta and seed. The tarball has the source, dsc, and changes files needed to build. ** Attachment added: lubuntu-meta-srcbld.tar.gz

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Julien Lavergnejulien.laver...@gmail.com wrote: @Martin-Éric An exception is only necessary for the first inclusion of the package. Adjusting dependencies (default applications) can be made without exceptions (unless most of applications changed). Ah,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Mario Behling
Dear all, lynxis has put together a lubuntu-iso to test: http://lynxis.crew.c-base.org All the best, Mario 2009/8/31 Martin-Éric Racine q-f...@iki.fi: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Julien Lavergnejulien.laver...@gmail.com wrote: @Martin-Éric An exception is only necessary for the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Mario Behling
Dear all, enclosed a few desktop backgrounds and images I collected from the lubuntu designer forum at the lxde website. Please include. Best, Mario ** Attachment added: lubuntu-design.zip http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31051972/lubuntu-design.zip -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Glen Bizeau
I like them, especially logo 2 Glen On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mario Behlingm...@mariobehling.de wrote: Dear all, enclosed a few desktop backgrounds and images I collected from the lubuntu designer forum at the lxde website. Please include. Best, Mario

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Mario Behlingm...@mariobehling.de wrote: Dear all, enclosed a few desktop backgrounds and images I collected from the lubuntu designer forum at the lxde website. Please include. I personally like the all-blue background with the bubbly logo best. I'd however

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Mario Behling
Hi, I like those designs, but I am not decided which way I like most. I think we can also gather more design suggestions and it is always easier to see, than to hear how something looks like. Fedora created an adapted them for the LXDE spin. Openbox is just one part, we also need to create athe

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Julien Lavergne
@Martin-Éric You can found some details about bzr here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr . Basically, you just need to branch the lubuntu-meta branch (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-meta), make your modifications, push your branch somewhere, and propose to merge your

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
The blue theme doesn't differentiate enough from KDE. We need to use other colors. How about these? (attachment) ** Attachment added: lubuntu-logo.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31098584/lubuntu-logo.png -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Lintian also reports the following: Now running lintian... W: lubuntu-meta source: package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version 4 W: lubuntu-meta source: diff-contains-bzr-control-dir .bzr W: lubuntu-desktop: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file W: lubuntu-desktop: unknown-section metapackages

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Here's a patch with the resulting changes. ** Attachment added: lubuntu-meta_02_to_03.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31004713/lubuntu-meta_02_to_03.diff -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Looking at what the resulting lubuntu-desktop package tries to pull: 1) sysinfo -- As this pulls the whole MONO framework along, I contend that the inclusion of this is contrary to the goal of keeping Lubuntu lightweight, so I'd recommend its removal. 2) gstreamer0.10-alsa -- We already depend

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Dallas Wiebelhaus
I agree with Martin-Éric Racine and thanks for the patch as well , Cheers. 2009/8/30 Martin-Éric Racine q-f...@iki.fi Looking at what the resulting lubuntu-desktop package tries to pull: 1) sysinfo -- As this pulls the whole MONO framework along, I contend that the inclusion of this is

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
@Martin-Eric you should publish a bzr branch and propose to merge with the current one for all the fixes you done. It should be easier than a patch. Also, the choice of defaults applications should be discuss separately, the more important for now is to add the package itself to the repository.

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Julien, I know that we are in Feature Freeze. Since this package hasn't yet entered KArmic, we must therefore do it right the first time, because there won't be many exceptions to get it in. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread David Sugar
I had wanted to get feedback sooner and hence see this done earlier. Most if not all of these changes noted are certainly valid. Where we touch upon what the default apps should be, my only concern is that we do not have a lot of revs. If we are going to split the seed to produce variants of

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
@Martin-Éric An exception is only necessary for the first inclusion of the package. Adjusting dependencies (default applications) can be made without exceptions (unless most of applications changed). The main point, like David said, is the split or not of the seed because it will probably need

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-29 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Under which package name can we see those packages? -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-29 Thread Mario Behling
Hi, lubuntu and lubuntu karmic seeds are here: https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Best, Mario 2009/8/29 Martin-Éric Racine q-f...@iki.fi: Under which package name can we see those packages? -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-29 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Two bugs in the debian/rules file: 1) Typo: make: *** build-stamp-kohteen tarvitseman kohteen lubutu-i386 tuottamiseen ei ole sääntöä. Seis. dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 The build-stamp should be called lubuntu, not lubutu (missing N). 2) Misses the

[Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-28 Thread Brian Murray
*** This is an automated message *** This bug is tagged needs-packaging which identifies it as a request for a new package in Ubuntu. As a part of the managing needs-packaging bug reports specification, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs/NeedsPackagingBugs, all needs- packaging bug reports