I'm using Samsung Ativ 5 laptop.
Unfortunately suspend to RAM does not work here - the laptop does
suspend, but never wakes up.
On the other hand, suspend to disk works fine - the laptop does suspend
and wakes up correctly.
Leaving a broken suspend to RAM option is a bug in my opinion,
2014-10-20 from TomaszChmielewski:
I'm using Samsung Ativ 5 laptop.
...
Leaving a broken suspend to RAM option is a bug in my opinion,
especially that the only working option of suspending to disk was removed.
1) Please report a new bug about the suspend-to-RAM problem on your system:
I don't agree with a default behaviour which disable hibernation by
default.
Especially on laptops, the hibernation should be available in order to
properly shut down when the battery level reaches the critical limit.
Could you at least keep hibernation by default for laptops ?
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@Jérôme, Regardless of how you go about it, you'd need to enter a
complex passphrase each time you start your computer, whether it's a
cold boot or after hibernation.
To give a comparison, imagine if Windows introduced a security feature
requiring every user to enter a complex passphrase when
@Paddy, Ok. However, each user can start a new session in addition to
the session which is blocked.
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@Jerome: Paddy was referring to the password when full disk encryption
is in use, not the one used to protect a user account. Normally the
pass-phrase used for full disk encryption this is an automatically
created, awkward and long phrase, hard to type in without making
mistakes, let alone
Who said anything about full disk encryption? It is completely
unrelated to this bug.
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As of today all publicly known workarounds (changes in policy file) for this
*BUG* stopped working for me on Ubuntu 13.10.
So no hibernation in UI any more. Manual entries in /etc/acpi/* (event and
script calling pm-hibernate) do work.
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Yes, also confirm this.
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Bugs #882040 #976654 are right ones, I think.
Best wishes, Bob
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IMHO, it's much more productive to open a new bug like Please enable hibernate
in Ubuntu, Hibernate doesn't work in Ubuntu etc.
than posting complaints to this one;
the current bug report is a suggestion to DISABLE the hibernation in
Ubuntu;
if you make a YES vote (Does this bug affect you?)
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@Jordan P: The hibernate option was turned off by default because of
problems associated with it. I don't know why Canonical did not give a
simple GUI option to turn it on, but I would imagine that it is
precisely because only advanced users should do so.
Your answer to your friend could quite
Why the heck the Devs thought it was smart to Disable Hibernate by
Default and not include a GUI to Enable it is beyond me. Looking at the
Early Comments it seems the Devs didn't think this through and consider
what the End-User wants.
How Hard is it to Give us a freakin switch in the Power
My suggestion:
Include a lens to find hardware id in certificate database on hibernate
and suggest compatible laptops from Amazon!
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This may be a bit late, but...
Have you considered encrypted folders?
Hibernation *must* be disabled with encrypted folders, because the swap
is also encrypted.
It is possible to have hibernation with encrypted folders, but there is
a caveat: you need a separate password just to boot, and all
Can someone please make it clear to me if the suspend to disk feature is
now stable (fixed and released), or if it's still a general issue and is
still disabled by default due to results for differents hardware?
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andygmorris,
hibernate works on most machines, but was disabled to prevent problems with
hypothetical newbie users their buggy hardware;
though it's easy for an experienced user to re-enabled it (look at the bug
description).
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I strongly support the solution in #33: give a warning when the user
uses hibernate, with a link to more information.
Does anyone know if this trend to remove features is motivated by user
studies? Or is it just intuition? I find this trend very annoying, but
I'm probably not an average user. I
Add my to the this is just ridiculous list.
The sort of thing that is driving me out of Ubuntu any day now...
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This is just ridiculous. I don't care if you guys DISABLE Hibernate but
YOU SHOULD PROVIDE AN OPTION TO TURN IN EASILY. Many peopple are used to
hibernate, if they don't see on the menu they just think that it doesn't
work OMG guys..
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Lenovo T61 - Windows7, Hibernate mode works fine. Suspend Works fine and has
for the last 3 years.
Lenovo T61 - Suddenly 12.04 comes along and apparently that laptop is not good
enough for hibernate, even though I carefully created a swap drive large enough
for such things. Hrrm. Suddenly I
What a sad decision for an LTS.
1) Disable hibernate by default: ok, I can understand the many issues
around it
2) Not providing a GUI way to turn it back on - BAD
3) Not allowing users to even know that this feature /exists/ - VERY bad
Solutions in #53 and #54 are great:
A) Provide a package
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The first - hibernate mode is 'grey' without any explanation.
The second - my battery live is short and I want to power off or
hibernate my notebook by closed lid.
I propose add description with link (https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04
/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html) to the disabled point and add
Ubuntu currently has two modes of thinking about the current hardware's
ability to hibernate:
I know it work, therefore it should be available to the user and I know it
does not work, therefore it should be hidden from the user.
Ubuntu is missing the third mode:
I do not know whether it will
If hibernate must be disabled by default (which IMHO is a silly idea,
since it makes the whole fact that hibernate even exists completely
undiscoverable), then rather than directing users to create a file in
/etc (hardly something that the average end-user is going to know how to
do), why not
Adam Porter [2012-04-30 15:59 -]:
One reason why the bug is unlikely to be fixed is that it would require
a User Interface Freeze Exception, which would require a Docs Freeze
Exception and the translators are nearly out of time to translate Ubuntu
12.04 before release as it is.
That's not
A new release should be an improvement--an upgrade should be an
upgrade. If you took your car in for service and found the radio was
missing when you picked it up, you'd be very upset. Then imagine the
mechanic said, Well, some people don't like some of the stations it
plays, so we ripped it
One reason why the bug is unlikely to be fixed is that it would require
a User Interface Freeze Exception, which would require a Docs Freeze
Exception and the translators are nearly out of time to translate Ubuntu
12.04 before release as it is.
Bureaucracy does not behoove Ubuntu. If paperwork
i am also in favor of it being enabled by default.
you say it is unprofessional if Ubuntu shows the hibernate option but it does
not work, though that is exactly what is the case now, just that Ubuntu does
not really try to hibernate. for the user, these are both the same: does not
work!.
Re #37: what UI needs to be changed ?
There isn't any UI exposing this new anti-feature, it just doesn't work.
As to the docs, all you need to do is delete the new page you wrote, no
translation overhead required.
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The hell ?!? Hibernate has been working well on every Linux machine I've used,
for years.
And suddenly it gets turned off by default *even if you were using it before*
?!?
How is this usable. There are now buttons all over the (KDE) GUI that don't do
anything. This has to be *worse*. And
** Description changed:
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- TO RE-ENABLE HIBERNATE: If the hibernate option is supported by your system
and you need it, you can re-enable it as follows:
-
- 1. create a new file
-
On my Toshiba NB550D, hibernate always worked, and suspend needs a grub
option (acpi_sleep=s3_bios). Also, as I use KDE, the only symptom I've
had of this feature after installing the precise beta was that the
suspend to disk option in the shutdown menu suddenly only locks the
screen and nothing
** Description changed:
+
-
+ TO RE-ENABLE HIBERNATE: If the hibernate option is supported by your system
and you need it, you can re-enable it as follows:
+
+ 1. create a new file
+
It would be wise to rollback this change.
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I am testing Precise for about two weeks now. I just found out about disabled
hibernation on UL30A.
Do you consider it a wise decision, to disable a vital function on some
machines without informed consent - especially on a LTS edition? I wouldn't.
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Latest test: On that specific laptop Asus UL30A, hibernation works well (but a
little slow compared to the formerly used tuxonice) with the latest set of
packages, if you uninstall hibernate and uswsusp.
With hibernate installed it will hang on restore.
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It makes me sad that you just disabled this. Either you underestimate
the number of people of users using Ubuntu, or you overestimate the few
bug reports you got about it.
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it is too late as the release is one week away.
My suggestion is that after installing the ubuntu, a program similar to Kaptan
that would provide the option to enable hibernate.
it is just the step to usability fix. the program could make a warning message
if the machine is not listed in the
My toshiba notebook supports hibernate and is in the ubuntu friendly
database, but I see no hibernate function - WHY ?...
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On 4/10/2012 3:37 PM, Eduard Gotwig wrote:
My toshiba notebook supports hibernate and is in the ubuntu friendly
database, but I see no hibernate function - WHY ?...
Reading ( or even just glancing at ) this bug before commenting on it
would answer that question.
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I realy have to say that I cant believe what the arguments to mark this
bug as a feature are.
Power to the people, not to hibernate.
I think you know the rest.
' I also find what Maxim Levitsky said in post #22 completely absolutely
justified '
And that for a LTS release...
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Agree with 2 previous posts.
Disabling hibernation is an effective way to destroy our planet faster.
Thousands of ubuntu users will leave their PC running all day and waste energy.
It's good that standby is still enabled.
But please, please provide a user-friendly way to enable hibernation from
I totally agree with those that complain about the decisions that were
made regarding the options to hibernate and suspend. I also find what
Maxim Levitsky said in post #22 completely absolutely justified. It is
really sad when some people irresponsibly take decisions and break
things that work.
I've opened bug 976654 asking developers to allow people to re-enable
hibernation from the GUI or even make it default again. Please use that
bug's this bug affects me too link to make the change to happen.
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Though I understand the reasons to disable hibernation by default, I strongly
disagree with this decision.
This feature is simply too important to disable it with no option to easily
restore it.
When I first tried the beta of 12.04 and couldn't find hibernation where it is
supposed to be, I
While I agree that re-enabling hibernate should probably be more
visible, that's a separate bug that probably won't be fixed for Ubuntu
12.04.
There is a help page in the default pre-installed help entitled How do
I hibernate my computer? that explains how to test if hibernate works
and how to
Although I can see the reasoning to disable by default I find the lack
of any trivial way to revert ridiculous. My Dell Precision used have
issues with hibernation until it was fixed in Oneiric but now in Precise
a working feature is disabled by default! If my battery is running
critically low,
Let the option available in energy settings, with the hibernate disabled
on not certified hardwares, and enabled on certified one.
Indeed
(How can this bug be solved ? A grayed out option with no notice can't
be a solution.)
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There is no certified hardware because hibernation is not hardware
specific and maintaining such a list would be a great deal of effort for
little to no gain, and never be complete. All that is needed is a
simple check box in the power settings to enable hibernation, that is
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Yes, please provide an easy to find method to switch it on. It took me some
googling to find how
to enable it, and it was not obvious at all, that it was intentionally
disabled. It looked like a bug
(on xfce, a window pops up: not authorized)
And although I count myself as reasonably computer
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Disabling hibernation is a good choice, but why not disabling suspend
also ? on UX31 it corrupts memory for example.
ubuntu should provide a graphical way for a user to Reenable Hibernation
with a warning message about the probability of failure.
You can't ship 12.04 without this IMO.
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I can understand disabling hibernate by default for Ubuntu or
Gnome3-based distro, but I can't understand why that disabled for
Kubuntu. KDE users expect more features, and broken by default hibernate
functional is simply harm to users who have hardware where hibernate is
works.
I ask developers
And I almost filled a bugreport with KDE about this.
What a bunch of a, there are just no more words for this.
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Maxim, please calm down; it's just software. Anyway, take a look at
http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-modify-policykit-to-allow-hibernation-in-upower
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True, but you are just keeping of harming already broken system.
There is *lot* of bugs.
I already enabled hibernation, I am smart enough to Google and find what is
going on eventually.
Its just stinks when you just remove/disable more and more options instead on
focusing on usability.
It sounds like the plan was to disable by default, but still have a
simple, easy to discover option to turn it back on. If this is not the
case, this bug needs reopened until it is added, or enabled by default
again.
Disabling hibernation by default because it is less used than suspend
and
On my Aspire One, hibernate works as soon as I add ath_pci co. to
PM_MODULES (IIRC). Suspend, however, is quite broken.
Of course, I'm using pm-hibernate instead of gnome/policykit; and I have
to use a local dkms package of the (unmaintained) madwifi-hal 0.10.5.6
branch because every other
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* Disable hibernation by default. (LP: #812394)
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