Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-08 Thread Vishnoo
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 17:27 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: Please note, I was suggesting not having Firefox or Chromium as the default, but a webkit based browser with a normal release cycle like Epiphany (which uses webkitgtk :)). If I'v understood that right, what you are suggesting is we use

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Rick Spencer [2011-04-07 18:38 -0700]: 1. There are key feature regressions, for example, there is no systray support for many important applications. For the record, this is currently purely a design decision, not a technical problem. Unity does have a systray, but most applications are not

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/4/8 Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com: I couldn't have believed it even two months ago still, but today I feel the same. When I switch back to classic GNOME it feels inferior now; I'm particularly missing the super-fast keyboard shortcuts/search/navigation and bigger screen real estate.

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-08 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 19:04 +0930, Jason Warner a écrit : Thanks for proposing this. I'm particularly interested in any and all speed improvements that could come from this...and if we have less overhead in general, great! If you're using GNOME, loading a whole GNOME session when starting

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/4/8 Neil Jagdish Patel neil.pa...@canonical.com: 3.8.4 should be much, much more stable, especially if you're on a 64-bit system. The entire team is concentrated on crashers and I think we'll have a very stable Unity by hard-freeze. Sounds good, and yes I've 64-bit which explains a bit.

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Neil Jagdish Patel [2011-04-08 11:38 +0100]: I'll be looking into this, I believe it's because we needlessly initialise the place-daemons during log-in. Does that include zeitgeist? As a Python program, it has a pretty heavy impact on the login sequence. In previous releases we tried to keep it

[Oneiric-Topic] Default e-mail client

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Coulson
Priority: e? At UDS for Natty we had a session to discuss the default e-mail client in Ubuntu. Whilst we agreed that we would continue to ship Evolution for 11.04 (with developer effort mostly focused on Unity), we did discuss alternatives. In particular, we looked at Thunderbird as a

Re: OpenShot instead of PiTiVi

2011-04-08 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Any update on whether the Featured Applications list will be dynamic for 11.04? If not, I would like to suggest that OpenShot Video Editor be added to the list of featured applications, as I think it offers Ubuntu users the top rated video editor on Linux. I think the rule of featured

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Appindicators for xfce4-panel, lxpanel and others?

2011-04-08 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi, Le Thursday 07 April 2011 à 10:43 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad a écrit : It would be good for both developers and users if they were working equally well on Unity, Gnome-panel, Xfce4-panel and Lxpanel. It's already available for lxpanel / LXDE / Lubuntu, just not enable by default due to

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Jorge O. Castro [2011-04-07 22:00 -0400]: We've been transitioning since 10.04 now so I don't think this should be attributed to Unity entirely, we could have easily run into this by not shipping the notification area in classic mode. Well, we can always break things harder, but IMHO this is a

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default e-mail client

2011-04-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 16:08 +0100, Chris Coulson a écrit : - I'm not convinced that Evolutions additional features are that important to our target users Hi, There seem to be some disagreement on how useful the calendar is, it seems that with free gcalendar accounts and smart phones

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 18:38 +0200, Martin Pitt a écrit : Well, we can always break things harder, but IMHO this is a battle which we aren't going to win until/unless we actually get indicators landed upstream... Who is upstream? libappindicator is a free software project not tied to

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Sebastien Bacher [2011-04-08 19:03 +0200]: Who is upstream? I mean GNOME here, as most of the patches we carry for appindicator are against GNOME applications. But it really applies to all other upstreams, starting from hplip, mumble, etc. Martin -- Martin Pitt|

Re: OpenShot instead of PiTiVi

2011-04-08 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Jonathan Thomas jonathan.oo...@gmail.com wrote: Any update on whether the Featured Applications list will be dynamic for 11.04? From chatting with mvo and the USC folks over the week this feature won't be in 11.04 unfortunately, but we should have something for

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread NoOp
On 04/07/2011 06:38 PM, Rick Spencer wrote: Hello all, Back at UDS for 11.04 in Orlando, Mark set the goal of using Unity by default on the Ubutu desktop. Given the current course of development, it appears that we are going to achieve this goal, and Unity will stay the default for 11.04.

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread ebcovert3
I have to agree. Unity has potential but I don't understand why it can't just be an option for DE. BB -Original Message- From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net Sender: ubuntu-desktop-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:21:54 To: ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com Cc:

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-08 Thread Sean McNamara
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:21 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 04/07/2011 06:38 PM, Rick Spencer wrote: Hello all, Back at UDS for 11.04 in Orlando, Mark set the goal of using Unity by default on the Ubutu desktop. Given the current course of development, it appears that we are going to