Re: Language chooser at login

Progress has been made, and this is a short update. Ubuntu 11.10 was shipped with a language chooser in lightdm-gtk-greeter. Thanks, Robert! Unfortunately - due to time restraints - the chooser is currently broken as regards Ubuntu; see https://launchpad.net/bugs/868346 A proposed fix is availab

Re: Language Chooser at Login 3: The Choosening (or: Keyboard Selector)

On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:53 -0500, Christopher James Halse Rogers wrote: > Rovanion in #ubuntu-devel brought to me a problem that's related to the > lack of language selector - we also don't have a keyboard selector. I > don't think I've seen this discussed before, and I think it should be > addre

Re: Language Chooser at Login 3: The Choosening (or: Keyboard Selector)

På Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:53:33 +0200, skrev Christopher James Halse Rogers : Rovanion in #ubuntu-devel brought to me a problem that's related to the lack of language selector - we also don't have a keyboard selector. I don't think I've seen this discussed before, and I think it should be addres

Language Chooser at Login 3: The Choosening (or: Keyboard Selector)

Rovanion in #ubuntu-devel brought to me a problem that's related to the lack of language selector - we also don't have a keyboard selector. I don't think I've seen this discussed before, and I think it should be addressed. The problem description here is: You have a multi-user system with multipl

Re: Language chooser at login (comment from an upset ubuntu user)

On 24.08.2011 16:59, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > Thank you for your interest but confrontational behaviour based on > subjective facts doesn't usually lead to useful discussions... This is not about leading to useful discussions. This is about leading to solving the problem. Unfortunately, my ex

Re: Language chooser at login (comment from an upset ubuntu user)

On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:35 +0200, Hadmut Danisch wrote: > Hi, > > I was testing oneiric alpha releases, found several problems with > keyboard maps and locale settings, tried to report them as bugs, and > ran against a wall of ignorance, probably errected by > ubuntu/canonical. I then came to bug

Re: Language chooser at login (comment from an upset ubuntu user)

On mer., 2011-08-24 at 15:35 +0200, Hadmut Danisch wrote: > Hi, > > I was testing oneiric alpha releases, found several problems with > keyboard maps and locale settings, tried to report them as bugs, and > ran against a wall of ignorance, probably errected by > ubuntu/canonical. Thank you for yo

Re: Language chooser at login (comment from an upset ubuntu user)

Hi, I was testing oneiric alpha releases, found several problems with keyboard maps and locale settings, tried to report them as bugs, and ran against a wall of ignorance, probably errected by ubuntu/canonical. I then came to bug #803858 and to this mailing list discussion. Reading this discussio

Re: Language chooser at login

On 09/07/11 19:23, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > 1. For users who change display language once in a while - for whatever >reason - it provides a more convenient way for doing so than doing it >from the Language Support UI or its successor. There is a fresh bug >report about it, btw: https

Re: Language chooser at login

After having reviewed this thread, there are a few things I'd like to highlight: Language chooser As regards the language chooser on the login screen, it basically serves two purposes: 1. For users who change display language once in a while - for whatever reason - it provides

Re: Language chooser at login

hi, Am Mittwoch, den 06.07.2011, 19:59 +0100 schrieb Matthew Paul Thomas: > For a guest session, I can think of two ways to solve the problem: an > interstitial dialog for the "Guest Session" command, that lets you > choose a language before entering the session (as Robert Ancell > suggested); and

Re: Language chooser at login

On 05/07/11 19:11, Oliver Grawert wrote: > >> Note that this doesn't necessarily have to be implemented in the >> greeter, i.e. you can run zenity in the guest accounts .profile and that >> prompts the user on login for language. Or you can make multiple >> sessions for each installed language, i.

Re: Language chooser at login

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver Grawert wrote on 04/07/11 13:14: >... > Am Montag, den 04.07.2011, 11:11 +0100 schrieb Matthew Paul Thomas: >... >> GDM in Ubuntu does not let you choose the language when logging in to >> a guest session. >> >

Re: Language chooser at login

On 2011-07-05 05:31, Robert Ancell wrote: > On 04/07/11 21:00, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: >> I take it that you would like to see a solid base for decision that we >> do not have access to. Given that, to me the natural conclusion is that >> Ubuntu keeps providing the feature for now. > For a featur

Re: Language chooser at login

On 2011-07-05 07:06, Martin Pitt wrote: > Marc Deslauriers [2011-07-04 23:29 -0400]: >> If the administrator can set the default language when creating a new >> user, it should be fine. What, more exactly, do you mean by "set the default language"? As regards "default", there is the system languag

Re: Language chooser at login

hi, Am Dienstag, den 05.07.2011, 13:43 +1000 schrieb Robert Ancell: > On 04/07/11 17:41, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > ... pretty much every environment edubuntu is used in (public desktops > > in school classrooms at universities or libraries), non personalized > > computers in multilingual companies,

Re: Language chooser at login

On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 07:06 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Marc Deslauriers [2011-07-04 23:29 -0400]: > > If the administrator can set the default language when creating a new > > user, it should be fine. > > I agree. With that, and the fact that the majority of use cases are > already covered by t

Re: Language chooser at login

Marc Deslauriers [2011-07-04 23:29 -0400]: > If the administrator can set the default language when creating a new > user, it should be fine. I agree. With that, and the fact that the majority of use cases are already covered by the system wide default locale/language, I see little reason for putt

Re: Language chooser at login

On 04/07/11 17:41, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Montag, den 04.07.2011, 12:44 +1000 schrieb Robert Ancell: >> I haven't heard of any standard user requirements to switch between >> more than two languages, or two languages that do not include English >> (please post here if you know of any). >

Re: Language chooser at login

On 04/07/11 21:00, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > I take it that you would like to see a solid base for decision that we > do not have access to. Given that, to me the natural conclusion is that > Ubuntu keeps providing the feature for now. For a feature to exist, it needs a justification. I see no r

Re: Language chooser at login

On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:06 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: > On 04/07/11 21:57, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:44 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: > >> From what I've gathered talking to people the classes of user are: > >> 1. Users who set the system language at install/first boot ti

Re: Language chooser at login

On 04/07/11 20:11, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Robert Ancell wrote on 04/07/11 03:44: > > >> If you change the display language within a session, it does not take > >> effect in that session, but only after you have logged out and > >> logged in again. The language setting is one of the few things

Re: Language chooser at login

On 04/07/11 21:57, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:44 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: >> From what I've gathered talking to people the classes of user are: >> 1. Users who set the system language at install/first boot time, and >> never change it (the vast majority) >> 2. English as

Re: Language chooser at login

Le lundi 04 juillet 2011 à 11:11 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit : > Robert Ancell wrote on 04/07/11 03:44: > > > >> If you change the display language within a session, it does not take > >> effect in that session, but only after you have logged out and > >> logged in again. The language settin

Re: Language chooser at login

hi, Am Montag, den 04.07.2011, 11:11 +0100 schrieb Matthew Paul Thomas: > >> I haven't heard of any standard user requirements to switch between > >> more than two languages, or two languages that do not include English > >> (please post here if you know of any). > > > > well, just some of these e

Re: Language chooser at login

On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:44 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: > From what I've gathered talking to people the classes of user are: > 1. Users who set the system language at install/first boot time, and > never change it (the vast majority) > 2. English as a second language users, who switch between their

Re: Language chooser at login

Robert, I take it that you would like to see a solid base for decision that we do not have access to. Given that, to me the natural conclusion is that Ubuntu keeps providing the feature for now. Btw, your position on this topic seems to have changed rapidly. The language chooser is included in th

Re: Language chooser at login

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Ancell wrote on 04/07/11 03:44: > >> If you change the display language within a session, it does not take >> effect in that session, but only after you have logged out and >> logged in again. The language setting is one of the few things that >

Re: Language chooser at login

hi, Am Montag, den 04.07.2011, 12:44 +1000 schrieb Robert Ancell: > I haven't heard of any standard user requirements to switch between > more than two languages, or two languages that do not include English > (please post here if you know of any). well, just some of these environments ubuntu has

Re: Language chooser at login

I've cc'd in Mika and John, who worked on the design of the new greeter (not the greeter that is currently delivered with Oneiric) and Charline who does user testing as they will probably have good opinions on this feature. > I'm of the opinion that we should keep providing a language chooser > wid

Language chooser at login

I have discussed briefly with a couple of developers whether there should be a language chooser on the login screen, and we believe it's a suitable topic for this list. The background is that GDM has provided a language chooser for a long time, but GNOME has (for unclear reasons) dropped it in GDM