Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread Kees Cook
Hi Rick, On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:38:27PM -0700, Rick Spencer wrote: > Back at UDS for 11.04 in Orlando, Mark set the goal of using Unity by > default on the Ubutu desktop. Given the current course of development, > it appears that we are going to achieve this goal, and Unity will stay > the def

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/4/8 Timo Jyrinki : > There are a lot of bugs and lack of features (and many have been fixed > already as well) and the performance is quite bad in parts, but those > are not as serious as a) crashers and potentially b) accessibility and > lack of any help. Just reflecting on the more recent p

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Bilal Akhtar
On 04/08/2011 01:27 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: > On 04/07/2011 05:21 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:36:01AM EST, Micah Gersten wrote: >>> Since now both Firefox and Chromium have committed to rapid release >>> schedules, I think it's time to reevaluate the default browser in >

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 10:36 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: > Since now both Firefox and Chromium have committed to rapid release > schedules, I think it's time to reevaluate the default browser in > Ubuntu. I am concerned that some of these upgrades might break system > integration at some point. Wh

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Shane Fagan
>> Please note, I was suggesting not having Firefox or Chromium as the >> default, but a webkit based browser with a normal release cycle like >> Epiphany (which uses webkitgtk :)). Hey all, Well there are two ways you can look at this. 1. Recognized brands like Chrome and Firefox which most peo

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread nadt
Am 09.04.2011 06:43, schrieb Sean McNamara: > ... > I have much respect for the Unity developers for contributing to FOSS, > and I think that it has genuine utility in the netbook form factor. I > just don't think it's ready for the general purpose desktop. My wish > is for the Ubuntu Netbook Remix

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread Sean McNamara
Oops -- I meant to send this to the whole list, not just to Timo! Sorry for the double mail, Timo! Sean On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Sean McNamara wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Timo Jyrinki wrote: >> 2011/4/8 Timo Jyrinki : >>> There are a lot of bugs and lack of feature

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Martin Owens wrote: > But what is available isn't classic ubuntu gnome... at least not in > testing so far: Seb128 has fixed this, the Classic GNOME in Natty as of yesterdayish is now what you'd think "Classic" should be. For people who prefer classic they'll get

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Sean McNamara wrote: > As a long time Gnome2 user (and prior to that Windows), I agree that > not having the Windows-style "taskbar" is rather jarring for someone > used to having it. Changing between windows in Unity is a mystery, and > if you are running more tha

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Chris Coulson
Hi, I will reply to this thread properly in a few days, but I wanted to reply to this particular post now. On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 14:23 +0100, Shane Fagan wrote: > Firefox I don't think ever fit in because of XUL. I'd like to know why you think Firefox won't ever fit in because of XUL? After all

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-09 Thread Sean McNamara
Hi, On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Sean McNamara wrote: >> As a long time Gnome2 user (and prior to that Windows), I agree that >> not having the Windows-style "taskbar" is rather jarring for someone >> used to having it. Changing betwee

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Shane Fagan
Hi Chris, Maybe I was presuming a bit of things :) >> Firefox I don't think ever fit in because of XUL. > > I'd like to know why you think Firefox won't ever fit in because of XUL? > After all, it's just another toolkit (like QT is just another toolkit, > or perhaps you think that QT wouldn't fit

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Dylan McCall
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: > Since now both Firefox and Chromium have committed to rapid release > schedules, I think it's time to reevaluate the default browser in > Ubuntu.  I am concerned that some of these upgrades might break system > integration at some point. One

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Jacky Alcine
Sounds like Chromium meets the standards for that one. I'm assuming that there'd be Ubuntu-ifed branding for it, similar to that of Firefox (ubu-fox)? That's if it were to become standard. On 2011-04-09, Dylan McCall wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: >> Since now both

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default Browser

2011-04-09 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 9 April 2011 15:55, Dylan McCall wrote: > One nice thing with Chromium and Epiphany is they store passwords > using the native keyring daemon. (Epiphany always has, Chromium > recently has and it should be enabled by default at this point). That > is, passwords are properly encrypted at no cost