meeting

2011-08-03 Thread Mike Holstein
could someone else take over the meeting scheduled for this sunday? otherwise we could reschedule.. -- MH mikeholstein.info http://www.mikeholstein.info/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: meeting

2011-08-03 Thread Janne Jokitalo
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 11:15:48AM -0400, Mike Holstein wrote: could someone else take over the meeting scheduled for this sunday? otherwise we could reschedule.. As already agreed over IRC, I can do that. Seems like you already planted the upcoming one on the wiki, so there's not much I need

Re: lintian build failure

2011-08-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Benjamin, Benjamin Drung [2011-07-25 16:56 +0200]: +E: control-files-weird-files: control-file-has-bad-permissions triggers 0664 != 0644 This is most likely because in oneiric the standard umask for non-system users is 002 now, for users which are in a private user group. I. e. new

Re: lintian build failure

2011-08-03 Thread Iain Lane
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 03:25:34PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello Benjamin, Benjamin Drung [2011-07-25 16:56 +0200]: +E: control-files-weird-files: control-file-has-bad-permissions triggers 0664 != 0644 This is most likely because in oneiric the standard umask for non-system users is

Re: lintian build failure

2011-08-03 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 03.08.2011, 14:35 +0100 schrieb Iain Lane: On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 03:25:34PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello Benjamin, Benjamin Drung [2011-07-25 16:56 +0200]: +E: control-files-weird-files: control-file-has-bad-permissions triggers 0664 != 0644 This is most

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/02/2011 06:46 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday, August 02, 2011 04:04:31 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/02/2011 12:43 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me. It makes it analogous to

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: The issue with the email voting is two-fold: 1. It's not advertised anywhere. I didn't know it was possible until it was mentioned yesterday. This is easy to fix. 2. As mentioned yesterday, there's the

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:37:54 AM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/02/2011 06:46 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday, August 02, 2011 04:04:31 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/02/2011 12:43 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 02.08.2011, 09:33 -0700 schrieb Chase Douglas: Hi all, Yesterday I attempted to attend a DMB meeting, but unfortunately only two members showed so there wasn't a quorum. I think I've been to about an equal number of meetings where quorum has and has not been reached :(.

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 09:18 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Dienstag, den 02.08.2011, 09:33 -0700 schrieb Chase Douglas: Hi all, Yesterday I attempted to attend a DMB meeting, but unfortunately only two members showed so there wasn't a quorum. I think I've been to about an equal number of meetings

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/02/2011 09:33 AM, Chase Douglas wrote: My proposal would be to do away with formal meetings, at least for evaluating typical applications, and move them to Launchpad. Create a project (maybe ubuntu-developer-membership) and then have people open bugs when they have something to bring up

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 11:43 AM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: I don't think the DMB process is an important piece of community socialization at all. I doubt many people pay attention to it if they don't have a specific need

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: What is the policy for email applications? Can anyone apply this way, or is it only under specific circumstances? Split votes go to the mailing list to try to find enough +1s after a meeting. Board members can

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: What is the policy for email applications? Can anyone apply this way, or is it only under specific circumstances? Split votes go to the mailing list to try to

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Moser
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Nathan Handler wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: True, but progress sometimes means change. I think this system would work better, and if proven right it could be a model for other boards to adopt. If it's worse,

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: What is the policy for email applications? Can anyone apply this way, or is it only

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 12:30 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: What is the policy for email

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: With no further digging, only looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Logs , 4 out of the last 11 meetings scheduled did not happen.  3 of those were due to lack of quorum.  At least one other meeting not

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:30 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Chase Douglas Ok, that's evidence of what's been done in the past, but what is the policy? Can I do it myself? I'm asking because I

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 03:04:14 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/02/2011 09:33 AM, Chase Douglas wrote: My proposal would be to do away with formal meetings, at least for evaluating typical applications, and move them to Launchpad. Create a project (maybe ubuntu-developer-membership)

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 12:35 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: At very least, this issue needs to be fixed. Meetings need to happen at scheduled times, or be postponed/rescheduled at least 24 hours in advance. Believe I already said

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Luke Faraone
On 08/03/2011 03:51 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: I think the message isn't that there aren't unforeseen circumstances. It's that they need to be handled in a better fashion. Custom courtesy (where I'm from at least :) says that meetings that are cancelled or postponed have advance notice of at

SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions

2011-08-03 Thread Micah Gersten
So, there are a couple merge proposals right now for control file description typo fixes for natty: https://code.launchpad.net/~bones/ubuntu/oneiric/gnomebaker/fix-for-818364/+merge/70234 https://code.launchpad.net/~bones/ubuntu/natty/radiotray/fix-for-722886/+merge/70107 The package has either

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Moser
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: With no further digging, only looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Logs , 4 out of the last 11 meetings scheduled did not happen.  3 of those were due to

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 12:44 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 03:04:14 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/02/2011 09:33 AM, Chase Douglas wrote: My proposal would be to do away with formal meetings, at least for evaluating typical applications, and move them to Launchpad. Create a

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Allison Randal
On 08/03/2011 12:23 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: What is the policy for email applications? Can anyone apply this way, or is it only under specific circumstances?

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2011-06-20 [1] ended in a discussion about Whats a Quorum 2011-02-14 [2] was postponed, maybe that is what I had seen. I admit to   possibly getting lost trying to quickly scan the logs. #1 had quorum just dandy. The

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 03:46:55 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:35 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: At very least, this issue needs to be fixed. Meetings need to happen at scheduled times, or be

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2011-06-20 [1] ended in a discussion about Whats a Quorum 2011-02-14 [2] was postponed, maybe that is what I had seen. I admit to   possibly getting

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2011-06-20 [1] ended in a discussion about Whats a Quorum And if you read it, it's not what's quorum? We KNOW that. It's 4. The question was whether

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: I don't think the DMB process is an important piece of community socialization at all. I doubt many people pay attention to it if they

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 12:50 PM, Allison Randal wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:23 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: What is the policy for email applications? Can anyone apply this way, or

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 01:45 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/03/2011 04:36 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:50 PM, Allison Randal wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:23 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed,

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Iain Lane
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 04:45:09PM -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote: [...] Personally, as a member of the DMB, I definitely want to keep having live meetings with the applicants. E-mail can be fine in very specific cases where live IRC meeting can't be achieved and should only be something the

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 04:06:26 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:44 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 03:04:14 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/02/2011 09:33 AM, Chase Douglas wrote: I think it's really up to

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Chase Douglas
On 08/03/2011 02:01 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 01:45 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/03/2011 04:36 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:50 PM, Allison Randal wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:23 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Iain Lane
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 02:34:31PM -0700, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 02:01 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 01:45 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/03/2011 04:36 PM, Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:50 PM, Allison

Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions

2011-08-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Micah Gersten's message of Wed Aug 03 12:55:09 -0700 2011: So, there are a couple merge proposals right now for control file description typo fixes for natty: https://code.launchpad.net/~bones/ubuntu/oneiric/gnomebaker/fix-for-818364/+merge/70234

Re: DMB: Proposal for a different review process

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 05:29:07 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 04:06:26 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:44 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 03:04:14 PM Chase Douglas wrote: On

Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions

2011-08-03 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 17:46, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote: I think peoples' time is better spent elsewhere.. but if somebody in the community wants to spend time correcting the spelling mistakes, our policy is not really clear as to whether or not this is ok. But beyond just spending

Did I miss some package so I can not compile read_write_mutex.hpp in boost?

2011-08-03 Thread eric
dear boost progamers: when I tried to compile from my g++4.5.2 a simple file which include #include boost/thread/read_write_mutex.hpp --- root_at_eric-laptop:/home/eric/cppcookbook/ch12# g++ -lboost_thread Example12-3.cpp Example12-3.cpp:3:45: fatal error:

Re: Did I miss some package so I can not compile read_write_mutex.hpp in boost?

2011-08-03 Thread scott
On 08/03/2011 09:55 PM, eric wrote: dear boost progamers: when I tried to compile from my g++4.5.2 a simple file which include #includeboost/thread/read_write_mutex.hpp --- root_at_eric-laptop:/home/eric/cppcookbook/ch12# g++ -lboost_thread Example12-3.cpp Example12-3.cpp:3:45: fatal

Re: Did I miss some package so I can not compile read_write_mutex.hpp in boost?

2011-08-03 Thread scott
On 08/03/2011 10:59 PM, scott wrote: On 08/03/2011 09:55 PM, eric wrote: dear boost progamers: when I tried to compile from my g++4.5.2 a simple file which include #includeboost/thread/read_write_mutex.hpp --- root_at_eric-laptop:/home/eric/cppcookbook/ch12# g++ -lboost_thread