Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
One other option for dealing with getting fixes back to Debian that I don't recall seeing mentioned in this thread is to join a packaging team in Debian relevant to an interest area and then just push relevant fixes into the team VCS. I did that with Debian Python Modules Team myself just yeste

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/06/08 at 13:34 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 18:48 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 18/06/08 at 10:12 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > > > Thanks for the examples, now i'm clearer on what you meant. > > > > > > I also think this will we great, but to have a wiki

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/06/08 at 21:22 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I didn't mean that there should be one wiki page per package. Only that > > there should be one wiki page (or one section on the same wiki page) for > > each class of change. In the case of libext-dev, there was p

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I didn't mean that there should be one wiki page per package. Only that > there should be one wiki page (or one section on the same wiki page) for > each class of change. In the case of libext-dev, there was probably at > least 20 packages affected by that change, where the

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 18:48 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 18/06/08 at 10:12 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > > Thanks for the examples, now i'm clearer on what you meant. > > > > I also think this will we great, but to have a wiki page for every > > package and to edit it with every change it

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/06/08 at 09:13 -0700, Jordan Mantha wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lucas Nussbaum > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 17/06/08 at 20:11 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Linking to bugs is a good thing,

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/06/08 at 10:12 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > Thanks for the examples, now i'm clearer on what you meant. > > I also think this will we great, but to have a wiki page for every > package and to edit it with every change it's not the best to do IMHO. > On the other hand we can open a bug f

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:13 -0700, Jordan Mantha wrote: > > This of course assumes the person writing the changelog entry actually > knows the answer to those questions. As you say, it requires a lot of > effort on the part of the DD. I think it probably takes at least the > same if not more effor

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Jordan Mantha
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/06/08 at 20:11 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linking to bugs is a good thing, but many changes are done without any > bug in launchpad (or

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Thanks for the examples, now i'm clearer on what you meant. I also think this will we great, but to have a wiki page for every package and to edit it with every change it's not the best to do IMHO. On the other hand we can open a bug for the changes and explain everything there and just include th

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 01:25 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:44:56AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > For example, instead of: > > + * debian/control: add missing libxext-dev build-dependency (fixes FTBFS). > > You could write: > > + * debian/control: add missing libxex

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/06/08 at 04:44 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > In my experience, reactions to the diff available on PTS are rare. If I > want something feed back to Debian, I almost invariably have to put a bug > in BTS with the patch. I can explain the rationale there. That's a chicken-and-egg problem.

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:46:46 +0200 Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 17/06/08 at 22:10 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Tuesday 17 June 2008 21:11, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > > There's a w

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:44:56AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > For example, instead of: > + * debian/control: add missing libxext-dev build-dependency (fixes FTBFS). > You could write: > + * debian/control: add missing libxext-dev b-dep. See > +http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Changes/libext-dev > +

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/06/08 at 20:11 -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Secondly, you generally could improve a lot at documenting your changes. > > If you put more effort on properly documenting what you change in your > > packages, it would a

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/06/08 at 22:10 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday 17 June 2008 21:11, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There's a wiki page on > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines abo

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-17 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 22:10 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday 17 June 2008 21:11, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There's a wiki page on > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuideli

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 21:11, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There's a wiki page on > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines about > > basically the same thing (it documents the changes in the

Re: About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-17 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Hi, On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > As you might have read in [1], I worked on exporting more info about > packages in Ubuntu to the Debian infrastructure, specifically the Debian > PTS[2] and the Debian Developer Packages Overview[3]. > > [1]

About forwarding bugs and patches to Debian and documenting your changes

2008-06-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, As you might have read in [1], I worked on exporting more info about packages in Ubuntu to the Debian infrastructure, specifically the Debian PTS[2] and the Debian Developer Packages Overview[3]. [1] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=295 [2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dpkg.html [3] h