Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[erich]

Forgot to add, we've already made the decision to stay with Xfce for
18.10 and are adding Plasma as the first additional desktop
environment.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[erich]

On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 18:13 -0500, argumento wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I've been using ubuntu studio as my main work OS since 2014 or 
> something. I noticed the debate between Gnome and KDE (and Budgie)
> as 
> may desktop environment for the new version. I have nothing to add
> to 
> that, but I'd like to suggest Equilux as a main or optional GTK
> theme 
> (in case ubuntu studio sticks to GTK). Equilux is a material design 
> based neutral gray theme, it might sound unimportant, but for ppl
> that 
> do photo or video color correction, having a neutral gray theme is a 
> great help. (idc about 'material design' guidelines, but they work).
> 
> https://github.com/ddnexus/equilux-theme
> 
> Also, I hate how ubuntu studio comes with a bunch of low quality
> free 
> fonts, it makes it awkward to browse your font catalog. Maybe having 
> less, but better fonts could help Ubuntu Studio be a better tool 
> (anyway, anyone can get as many fonts as they want from dafont or 
> -better- sites like Squirrel Font or Open Font, so less fonts might
> be a 
> good way to go).
> 
>   I'd like to share with you a well curated, free font collection,
> that 
> could be used as a guideline: http://usemodify.com/
> 
> That's all I have to say. Thanks for a great design and multimedia
> OS.


Hi argumento!

This is good input. We'll definitely take this and other suggestions
into consideration.

That said, we're a very, very small bunch and can't make a ton of
changes right now, unless we get the manpower. Bear in mind that we can
only work with what is already in the Ubuntu repositories, unless we
can get some more people working on packaging.

With that, I'd like to invite you to join us! We definitely need more
people helping to make Ubuntu Studio an even better design and
multimedia OS. With your interests, if those items you mentioned can be
packaged, we'd definitely invite you to do that as it would help to
make ideas such as yours to become realities.


Thanks,
Erich

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] hey

[Ryan Hoover]

Hi Charlie,

Glad to see an enthusiastic face!  I just missed your message in the
IRC channel by about 10 minutes.  If you see anything on the wiki
related to Ubuntu Studio that is outdated, inaccurate, or simply
missing, please shoot me a line either in the mailing list or in the
channel.

See you around!

Regards,
Ryan (SlidingHorn)


On Wed, 16 May 2018 15:09:09 -0700
Charlie  wrote:

> hey erich! thank you for the warmest welcomes and i've got my
> launchpad account already and i've been an active tester of several
> distros (ubuntu desktop as it was changing to using gnome, kubuntu,
> ubuntu studio, linux mint) and i love doing it because i get to see
> my little bit of work handed out to the world. 
> 
> #ubuntustudio-devel: i'll definitely be hanging out in our channel a
> lot more but i've stepped in a few times before and i look forward to
> being in the room more.
> 
> weekly saturday night meetings: awesome!! i'll be there as much as I
> can. I look forward to discussing everything with everyone.
> 
> documentation: you're in luck! i love to write! so i'm looking for to
> helping there. and then when i'm more adept at coding, i'll do that
> of course. 
> 
> on another note, i'm also a musician so i can give great feedback and
> suggestions for that. i've been looking forward to recording my debut
> album soon. 
> 
> but let's rock it! i'm ready! and thank you for opening the door for
> me. 
> 
> charlie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 16, 2018, at 13:20, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote:
> >   
> >> On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 12:36 -0700, Charlie wrote:
> >> hey everyone! i recently read the news on the website and I'm ready
> >> to jump in and help out however I can. I'm going back to school for
> >> software development this fall and  I'll be learning a lot and I
> >> want to help save my beloved OS. Right now, I can offer testing,
> >> maybe some documentation, and definitely some artwork or something
> >> like that. And I'm ready to start learning how to do things, even
> >> coding. Let's do this!
> >> 
> >> Charlie 'metalbiker' Luna
> >>   
> > 
> > Hi Charlie! Welcome! Glad to have you!
> > 
> > I hate to make you jump through hoops, but the first thing you'll
> > need to do, if you haven't already, is get a launchpad account
> > set-up. This will help in multiple ways as it allows us to add you
> > to teams and such. Get started with that at launchpad.net.
> > 
> > That's just the first thing. There's more, but alas, I'm at my
> > regular job right now and am unable to get everything to you that
> > you'll need. If you haven't already, feel free to jump into the
> > #ubuntustudio-devel channel on the FreeNode IRC network.
> > 
> > Also, our weekly development meetings take place every Saturday at
> > 19:00 UTC - except this Saturday for multiple reasons. You're
> > welcome to join us.
> > 
> > Since you offered, where we really need help is with documentation.
> > SlidingHorn on IRC could definitely use some help with that.
> > 
> > Anyhow, thanks for volunteering, and welcome!
> > -Erich
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[argumento]

Hi all.

I've been using ubuntu studio as my main work OS since 2014 or 
something. I noticed the debate between Gnome and KDE (and Budgie) as 
may desktop environment for the new version. I have nothing to add to 
that, but I'd like to suggest Equilux as a main or optional GTK theme 
(in case ubuntu studio sticks to GTK). Equilux is a material design 
based neutral gray theme, it might sound unimportant, but for ppl that 
do photo or video color correction, having a neutral gray theme is a 
great help. (idc about 'material design' guidelines, but they work).


https://github.com/ddnexus/equilux-theme

Also, I hate how ubuntu studio comes with a bunch of low quality free 
fonts, it makes it awkward to browse your font catalog. Maybe having 
less, but better fonts could help Ubuntu Studio be a better tool 
(anyway, anyone can get as many fonts as they want from dafont or 
-better- sites like Squirrel Font or Open Font, so less fonts might be a 
good way to go).


 I'd like to share with you a well curated, free font collection, that 
could be used as a guideline: http://usemodify.com/


That's all I have to say. Thanks for a great design and multimedia OS.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] hey

[Charlie]

i also wanted to mention that if i'm able to acquire all of my gear, i'll be 
able to record some demonstrational arrangements to showcase what ubuntu 
studio's capable of doing because i firmly know that ubuntu studio can produce 
professional recordings and also works of art and even blockbuster movies that 
make it to the movie theaters. and hell, even help authors write best selling 
novels. 

as you can see, my head's full of ideas. 

and ubuntu studio's 'linux for creative people!' love it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 13:20, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 12:36 -0700, Charlie wrote:
>> hey everyone! i recently read the news on the website and I'm ready
>> to jump in and help out however I can. I'm going back to school for
>> software development this fall and  I'll be learning a lot and I want
>> to help save my beloved OS. Right now, I can offer testing, maybe
>> some documentation, and definitely some artwork or something like
>> that. And I'm ready to start learning how to do things, even coding.
>> Let's do this!
>> 
>> Charlie 'metalbiker' Luna
>> 
> 
> Hi Charlie! Welcome! Glad to have you!
> 
> I hate to make you jump through hoops, but the first thing you'll need
> to do, if you haven't already, is get a launchpad account set-up. This
> will help in multiple ways as it allows us to add you to teams and
> such. Get started with that at launchpad.net.
> 
> That's just the first thing. There's more, but alas, I'm at my regular
> job right now and am unable to get everything to you that you'll need.
> If you haven't already, feel free to jump into the #ubuntustudio-devel
> channel on the FreeNode IRC network.
> 
> Also, our weekly development meetings take place every Saturday at
> 19:00 UTC - except this Saturday for multiple reasons. You're welcome
> to join us.
> 
> Since you offered, where we really need help is with documentation.
> SlidingHorn on IRC could definitely use some help with that.
> 
> Anyhow, thanks for volunteering, and welcome!
> -Erich
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] hey

[Charlie]

thank you, len! awesome to be here!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 13:45, Len Ovens  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018, Charlie wrote:
>> 
>> hey everyone! i recently read the news on the website and I'm ready to jump 
>> in and help out however I can. I'm going back to school for software 
>> development this fall and  I'll be learning a lot and I want to help save my 
>> beloved OS. Right now, I can offer testing, maybe some documentation, and 
>> definitely some artwork or something like that. And I'm ready to start 
>> learning how to do things, even coding. Let's do this!
> 
> Cool, welcome.
> 
> 
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> www.ovenwerks.net
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] hey

[Charlie]

hey erich! thank you for the warmest welcomes and i've got my launchpad account 
already and i've been an active tester of several distros (ubuntu desktop as it 
was changing to using gnome, kubuntu, ubuntu studio, linux mint) and i love 
doing it because i get to see my little bit of work handed out to the world. 

#ubuntustudio-devel: i'll definitely be hanging out in our channel a lot more 
but i've stepped in a few times before and i look forward to being in the room 
more.

weekly saturday night meetings: awesome!! i'll be there as much as I can. I 
look forward to discussing everything with everyone.

documentation: you're in luck! i love to write! so i'm looking for to helping 
there. and then when i'm more adept at coding, i'll do that of course. 

on another note, i'm also a musician so i can give great feedback and 
suggestions for that. i've been looking forward to recording my debut album 
soon. 

but let's rock it! i'm ready! and thank you for opening the door for me. 

charlie

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 13:20, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 12:36 -0700, Charlie wrote:
>> hey everyone! i recently read the news on the website and I'm ready
>> to jump in and help out however I can. I'm going back to school for
>> software development this fall and  I'll be learning a lot and I want
>> to help save my beloved OS. Right now, I can offer testing, maybe
>> some documentation, and definitely some artwork or something like
>> that. And I'm ready to start learning how to do things, even coding.
>> Let's do this!
>> 
>> Charlie 'metalbiker' Luna
>> 
> 
> Hi Charlie! Welcome! Glad to have you!
> 
> I hate to make you jump through hoops, but the first thing you'll need
> to do, if you haven't already, is get a launchpad account set-up. This
> will help in multiple ways as it allows us to add you to teams and
> such. Get started with that at launchpad.net.
> 
> That's just the first thing. There's more, but alas, I'm at my regular
> job right now and am unable to get everything to you that you'll need.
> If you haven't already, feel free to jump into the #ubuntustudio-devel
> channel on the FreeNode IRC network.
> 
> Also, our weekly development meetings take place every Saturday at
> 19:00 UTC - except this Saturday for multiple reasons. You're welcome
> to join us.
> 
> Since you offered, where we really need help is with documentation.
> SlidingHorn on IRC could definitely use some help with that.
> 
> Anyhow, thanks for volunteering, and welcome!
> -Erich
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] hey

[erich]

On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 12:36 -0700, Charlie wrote:
> hey everyone! i recently read the news on the website and I'm ready
> to jump in and help out however I can. I'm going back to school for
> software development this fall and  I'll be learning a lot and I want
> to help save my beloved OS. Right now, I can offer testing, maybe
> some documentation, and definitely some artwork or something like
> that. And I'm ready to start learning how to do things, even coding.
> Let's do this!
> 
> Charlie 'metalbiker' Luna
> 

Hi Charlie! Welcome! Glad to have you!

I hate to make you jump through hoops, but the first thing you'll need
to do, if you haven't already, is get a launchpad account set-up. This
will help in multiple ways as it allows us to add you to teams and
such. Get started with that at launchpad.net.

That's just the first thing. There's more, but alas, I'm at my regular
job right now and am unable to get everything to you that you'll need.
If you haven't already, feel free to jump into the #ubuntustudio-devel
channel on the FreeNode IRC network.

Also, our weekly development meetings take place every Saturday at
19:00 UTC - except this Saturday for multiple reasons. You're welcome
to join us.

Since you offered, where we really need help is with documentation.
SlidingHorn on IRC could definitely use some help with that.

Anyhow, thanks for volunteering, and welcome!
-Erich

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] gnome vs kde (regarding: The problem with gnome)

[erich]

On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 18:00 +0200, Alexandru Băluț wrote:
> You make this sound like I'm upset that you did not choose Gnome3. I
> have no idea what process you guys followed to choose the default DE,
> so I have nothing to say about that. Has this process been documented
> BTW? Just curious. I have no idea what are these "alternate DEs" you
> mentioned, I'll go read about it. 

There's a few questions to answer here. First of all, our default DE is
Xfce. It was chosen back in 2010 (long before many of us became
involved) because its function was familiar to users of GNOME 2 at the
time (MATE wasn't yet a thing) since that was the DE. That is, simply
put, the reason it was chosen.

With MATE being matured, we decided to explore DEs again, but through
many IRC conversations and conversations in this very mailing list, we
have decided to keep Xfce as default for now. If you have a default,
all other DEs are alternatives, so that's where the term "alternative
DE" came from. As an example, Ubuntu is the main operating system, the
flavors (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu
Kylin, and Ubuntu Studio) are all alternatives to the main Ubuntu.

> I replied because I see Len has a bad image about GNOME's team, which
> is false. Do you agree with what he said below? 
> - The attitude seems to be away from the user having things the way
> they like and more to the we provide a finished product that "we know
> is best for you".
> - gnome tends to tell you "this is whats good for you eat it."
> - I am not sure what happened to "the user is right" in gnome's mind,
> but it sure gone.

That's Len's opinion, and he's not the only one with that opinion at
this time. My friend and long-time GNOME user Noah Chelliah of the Ask
Noah Show (asknoahshow.com) has also come out and spoken with a similar
sentiment, as has Alan Pope of Canonical (he did so on an episode of
the Linux Unplugged podcast, which I am unable to link at this time). I
am sure the GNOME team's intentions are good, but for some people it's
simply not a vision they want to follow. So, that's the perception.

But, if you continue this discussion, it's just going to go in circles.
 We understand your passion, but at some point this discussion needs to
stop simply because it will go nowhere. I know you have the best of
intentions (as do we), but keeping this discussion going would be
futile.


Thanks,
Erich

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