Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
I'm thinking of upgrading my Ubuntu Studio PC, and to avoid all the problems I had with the current one (lock or slow mouse on a setup based on an MSI 7312 motherboard), can you recommend a 'working' setup (specially the motherboard, due to all the known ACPI problems with the RT kernels)? I intend to upgrade my current setup (MSI board) with an ASUS motherboard with a Athlon II CPU. Some of the motherboards I've identified are: ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS - NVIDIA nForce 630a + Geforce 7025 GPU Asus M4A785D-M Pro - AMD 785G chipset ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO - AMD 785G chipset Any of you have any of these boards working with Ubuntu Studio (with RT kernel)? I also had a previous PC with the AMD780G chipset and had similar problems with the RT kernel, that was the reason to change to the one I have now (with the MSI7312 motherboard, using the K9MM-V chipset), but still have almost the same issues - freezing after boot, mouse getting very slow after some seconds / minutes of use, etc. Or can you suggest any other known working setup? Thanks! Fernando On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:10 AM, laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: Hi all, nice to see that you have found a solution for your install. I'll keep your excellents tests infos for all the futur users. Thank's, Laurent lprod.org Fernando Gomes wrote: I've used the article https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI to try to debug the ACPI problem, and the results were the following: acpi=off - Working, as I told in the previous email acpi=ht - Also working pci=noacpi - Also working acpi=noirq - Also working pnpacpi=off - This is the only one that keep the same problems (slow mouse, etc.) noapic - Working nolapic - Working So, only the pnpacpi=off has the previous problems. The only conclusion I can get is that the problem is not related to the plug and play code, but I can't figure from the previous results how to narrow down the problem, since every other variant works. It also seems that using nolapic I have more processing reported by the jack control (always using the same applciations open and playing the same drum track on hydrogen, I have a value between 2.2% and 2.5% with all the ACPI options except with nolapic where the values are between 2.6% and 3% Fernando On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Fernando Gomes f.m.go...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all and thanks for the tips. The problem seems to be solved (at least until now) using the option acpi=off. I'm writing this message on the rt kernel on the same machine that locked up only a few moments after booting, now it is working for about one hour, running jack, ZynAddSubFx, Rosegarden, Hydrogen and Rackarrack. Once again thanks for your advice. I've tried to look for a newer bios version for this board but I'm already using the latest version. How this acpi=off option will impact on the system performance? I will make some more tests using alternative acpi configurations tomorrow and I'll let you know the results. Best regards Fernando On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:36 +0100, Fernando Gomes wrote: ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS - NVIDIA nForce 630a + Geforce 7025 GPU Asus M4A785D-M Pro - AMD 785G chipset ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO - AMD 785G chipset Mobo ASUS M2A-VM HDMI with a CPU model 15.107.2 AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350 and instead of the integrated ATI Radeon X1250-based graphics using a NVIDIA 7200 GS. Northbridge: AMD 690G, Southbridge: ATI SB600 Regarding to multimedia, audio and video I get best results when running tests. I'm not fine with those results, e.g. MIDI jitter around 1 ms, but compared to other mobos this mobo works like a charm. Unfortunately not with Ubuntu Studio until now, but e.g. with 64 Studio 3.0 based on Ubuntu Hardy out of the box. So, no experiences with those mobos you mentioned, but if you wish to use Ubuntu Studio out of the box, avoid my mobo, OTOH this mobo is hardcore audio proved, of course not with the onboard audio, but two PCI cards. Note that it's always a combination of hardware, BIOS updates, kernel-rt updates etc., you can't trust 'ASUS xyz with chipset abc' is good or bad. Once you've got a stable system that fits to your needs, keep it and e.g. do upgrades for a copy of this Linux. I'm using GRUB for multiboot a lot. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:36 +0100, Fernando Gomes wrote: freezing after boot, mouse getting very slow after some seconds / minutes of use, etc. Or can you suggest any other known working setup? Sometimes issues are caused by a HDD near to the end of its lifetime. The HDD seems to be ok, but there are strange issues for X. Do you use PS/2 or USB for mouse and keyboard? Perhaps you only need to switch to PS/2, for your current board. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
Hi Ralf, thanks for your reply! I would try with a PS2 mouse, my doubt is because I'm also using a USB audio interface, so I think that the USB problem might affect also the audio interface (but as far as I remember it keeps working even when mouse starts to get slow, but I'm not sure). Also have some network timeouts from time to time... As you say, this is a problem of all the things work together (the motherboard, bios version and linux rt version must match), this is why I was looking for a MB with integrated graphics that was known for working with the current Linux RT kernel ... That way the only difference I will have is the audio interface (I'm using a Tascam 122 usb sound module). Buying a third motherboard to see it doesn't work with ubuntu studio will be to much - specially to justify it to my wife :-) Im looking to ASUS because they have good motherboards and normally they have frequent bios updates (this should also be true for MSI, but unfortunatly not with the one I'm using). The BIOS of my current MSI boards misses many setup options and features. Fernando On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:36 +0100, Fernando Gomes wrote: freezing after boot, mouse getting very slow after some seconds / minutes of use, etc. Or can you suggest any other known working setup? Sometimes issues are caused by a HDD near to the end of its lifetime. The HDD seems to be ok, but there are strange issues for X. Do you use PS/2 or USB for mouse and keyboard? Perhaps you only need to switch to PS/2, for your current board. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 14:02 +0100, Fernando Gomes wrote: Hi Ralf, thanks for your reply! I would try with a PS2 mouse, my doubt is because I'm also using a USB audio interface, so I think that the USB problem might affect also the audio interface (but as far as I remember it keeps working even when mouse starts to get slow, but I'm not sure). Also have some network timeouts from time to time... As you say, this is a problem of all the things work together (the motherboard, bios version and linux rt version must match), this is why I was looking for a MB with integrated graphics that was known for working with the current Linux RT kernel ... That way the only difference I will have is the audio interface (I'm using a Tascam 122 usb sound module). Buying a third motherboard to see it doesn't work with ubuntu studio will be to much - specially to justify it to my wife :-) Im looking to ASUS because they have good motherboards and normally they have frequent bios updates (this should also be true for MSI, but unfortunatly not with the one I'm using). The BIOS of my current MSI boards misses many setup options and features. Fernando Hahaha :D I do understand your wife :). Hm, if you should have children, than you could argue with 'Linux should become more popular, because it's FLOSS, so knowledge is forwarded for free and to everybody'. Of course a week argument, if the costs for the gym shoe needed by the children for school vs a new mobo for you. There are hardware black/white/grey lists, e.g. http://www.64studio.com/node/69 ... but again, I don't trust those lists, they are ok for on Linux distro's version, but not ok in general. On then 64 Studio users mailing list some people said that Linux + MSI hardware should be the best combination, while e.g. some news on German say that Linux is a PITA, http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/13293/rueckgabequote-bei-msi-linux-geraeten-hoeher.html for most consumers, e.g. when using MSI-Linux-Netbooks. The valid argument of the consumers is, that they don't like to learn, but they wish to have a tool working out of the box. IMO 'out of the box' for realtime audio using Linux is utopistic. It's possible if you've good luck, or if you are a bad musician, engineer unable to notice the week points. For some reasons we decided to use Linux for making music, so I guess we need to offer much more time as we would like to offer regarding to hardware issues etc.. I'm just a user. I guess if you describe your hardware and your issues more detailed some coders would be able to help you efficient. Perhaps you should subscribe to LAU, http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user/. Allegedly the coders subscribed to the Linux audio developers mailing list, should read and reply to mails at LAU too. 2 Cents, unfortunately not really a help :(, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
Hi all, nice to see that you have found a solution for your install. I'll keep your excellents tests infos for all the futur users. Thank's, Laurent lprod.org Fernando Gomes wrote: I've used the article https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI to try to debug the ACPI problem, and the results were the following: acpi=off - Working, as I told in the previous email acpi=ht - Also working pci=noacpi - Also working acpi=noirq - Also working pnpacpi=off - This is the only one that keep the same problems (slow mouse, etc.) noapic - Working nolapic - Working So, only the pnpacpi=off has the previous problems. The only conclusion I can get is that the problem is not related to the plug and play code, but I can't figure from the previous results how to narrow down the problem, since every other variant works. It also seems that using nolapic I have more processing reported by the jack control (always using the same applciations open and playing the same drum track on hydrogen, I have a value between 2.2% and 2.5% with all the ACPI options except with nolapic where the values are between 2.6% and 3% Fernando On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Fernando Gomes f.m.go...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all and thanks for the tips. The problem seems to be solved (at least until now) using the option acpi=off. I'm writing this message on the rt kernel on the same machine that locked up only a few moments after booting, now it is working for about one hour, running jack, ZynAddSubFx, Rosegarden, Hydrogen and Rackarrack. Once again thanks for your advice. I've tried to look for a newer bios version for this board but I'm already using the latest version. How this acpi=off option will impact on the system performance? I will make some more tests using alternative acpi configurations tomorrow and I'll let you know the results. Best regards Fernando On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
I've used the article https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI to try to debug the ACPI problem, and the results were the following: acpi=off - Working, as I told in the previous email acpi=ht - Also working pci=noacpi - Also working acpi=noirq - Also working pnpacpi=off - This is the only one that keep the same problems (slow mouse, etc.) noapic - Working nolapic - Working So, only the pnpacpi=off has the previous problems. The only conclusion I can get is that the problem is not related to the plug and play code, but I can't figure from the previous results how to narrow down the problem, since every other variant works. It also seems that using nolapic I have more processing reported by the jack control (always using the same applciations open and playing the same drum track on hydrogen, I have a value between 2.2% and 2.5% with all the ACPI options except with nolapic where the values are between 2.6% and 3% Fernando On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Fernando Gomes f.m.go...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all and thanks for the tips. The problem seems to be solved (at least until now) using the option acpi=off. I'm writing this message on the rt kernel on the same machine that locked up only a few moments after booting, now it is working for about one hour, running jack, ZynAddSubFx, Rosegarden, Hydrogen and Rackarrack. Once again thanks for your advice. I've tried to look for a newer bios version for this board but I'm already using the latest version. How this acpi=off option will impact on the system performance? I will make some more tests using alternative acpi configurations tomorrow and I'll let you know the results. Best regards Fernando On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John www.silver-sounds.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
Hi Kenneth I don't know about the Pannel icons, but if your desktop icons and windows dissapear, you can reload nautilus by typing alt+f2 and then nautilus without the commas. Think your problem is GNOME related though. Did you try logging off and back on without restarting? and what happens if you do restart? About the AMD's freezing, thanks, if I ever have the problem again, thast the first thing I'll check! John www.silver-sounds.com Fermando, Scot John/Anyone: My Acer Laptop lost its panel applications; places; System; Shut Down panel drop down. Nothing remains to restore. Right clicking does not pop up a shut down either; but right clicking does come up with options: Create Folder, Create Folder, Create Document, Clean up Name, Change Desktop Background. Can you mention a command that I may write into terminal which I can open from the desktop? What terminal fix will reconstitute or reconfigure the panel with the icon repopulated? I'd sure appreciate your guidance. [perhaps this resulted from a hyperactive keyboard, which I guess has something to do with a motherboard issue.] Kenneth On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20100508/6e5ca0a4/attachment.htm -- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users End of Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 6 ** -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Hello Fernando, Scot John: kindly ignore my earlier request. I learned it's feasible to do a gconftool correction in terminal: rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel Finally,reload panel: pkill gnome-panel it worked and I'm using my laptop again. Thanks again. Kenneth On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kenneth Koym koy...@gmail.com wrote: Fermando, Scot John/Anyone: g My Acer Laptop lost its panel applications; places; System; Shut Down panel drop down. Nothing remains to restore. Right clicking does not pop up a shut down either; but right clicking does come up with options: Create Folder, Create Folder, Create Document, Clean up Name, Change Desktop Background. Can you mention a command that I may write into terminal which I can open from the desktop? What terminal fix will reconstitute or reconfigure the panel with the icon repopulated? I'd sure appreciate your guidance. [perhaps this resulted from a hyperactive keyboard, which I guess has something to do with a motherboard issue.] Kenneth On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Motherboard compatibility - AMD
John, powering off and on would not work. I did not know about nautilus.. I used a terminal routine which solved my panel repopulation question. Yes, it was gnome related. Many, many thanks! Ken On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, jONE producjo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kenneth I don't know about the Pannel icons, but if your desktop icons and windows dissapear, you can reload nautilus by typing alt+f2 and then nautilus without the commas. Think your problem is GNOME related though. Did you try logging off and back on without restarting? and what happens if you do restart? About the AMD's freezing, thanks, if I ever have the problem again, thast the first thing I'll check! John www.silver-sounds.com Fermando, Scot John/Anyone: My Acer Laptop lost its panel applications; places; System; Shut Down panel drop down. Nothing remains to restore. Right clicking does not pop up a shut down either; but right clicking does come up with options: Create Folder, Create Folder, Create Document, Clean up Name, Change Desktop Background. Can you mention a command that I may write into terminal which I can open from the desktop? What terminal fix will reconstitute or reconfigure the panel with the icon repopulated? I'd sure appreciate your guidance. [perhaps this resulted from a hyperactive keyboard, which I guess has something to do with a motherboard issue.] Kenneth On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Roy Damen royda...@gmail.com wrote: Dear John, On my machine i had a similar problem with rt. After more than 1,5 year of searching, trying out and lots of help with explanation on the ubuntuforums i discovered that it was this BIOS setting that must be turned off: IOAPIC It seems that ubuntu can manage this by itself(if i understood correctly) I bet this solves your problem too! 2010/5/7 jONE producjo...@gmail.com Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John I remember several years ago there were some problems with peoples systems acting sluggish or freezing with the -rt kernel during Hardy. If I remember correctly it had to do with acpi, although I cannot find any of those emails on the mailing list. However, I did find a Ubuntu Studio review by Dave Phillips that also mentions the acpi situation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/judgement-day-studio-dave-tests-ubuntu-studio-904 Also, this 64Studio forum posts discusses it a little more: http://www.64studio.com/node/ Hope this helps. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20100508/6e5ca0a4/attachment.htm -- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users End of Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 6 ** -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Hi Fernando I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ processor too and had problems with the RT kernel since I first installed 8.04 onwards. I tried pretty much everything until a few days ago, when I simply loaded optimized settings on my BIOS and believe it or not, no mouse delay and no hanging at all. My hammerfall soundcard's delay 10ms recording 16channels. I honestly don't know what setting in the BIOS messed it up since optimized settings or default settings options don't specify much and I've tweaked the thing so many times I lost track of what the original setting was! Maybe give that a try? Good luck! John www.silver-sounds.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Fernando Gomes wrote: Hi Laurent Thanks for your answer! The PC I'm trying to use has an MSI motherboard, I'll check its model and the processor installed tomorrow. Since there is a final ubuntu 10.04 version now, I'll try to install it and if it works I'll then install the ubuntustudio packages as you suggested. With previous ubuntustudio versions there were lockups during boot if using the realtime kernel. I have best results downloading the standard kernel, applying the rt patch to it, compile it and install it, but also had some stability issues (some freezes from time to time). I'll try with this new version and I'll let you know Best regards Fernando Ok, we are waiting for the infos. Laurent -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:39 PM, laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: Hi Fernando I'm a bit suprised about your troubles. Here, all the team have never met a AMD based motherboard, and more an Athlon64 x2 one which wasn't working with Ubuntu Studio !!! What is exactly your problem ? I'm sure there is a solution to fix... Does your computer work with a live Ubuntu CD ? You can install Ubuntu with a live CD and then upgrade your hard disk installation by using Internet and asking for all Ubuntu studio packages. For material, few things, The best motherboards are Asus and MSI. Asrock is a trademark of Asus, but with lower quality, usually, not very solid. Celeron even in dual core, are very very slower than AMD Athlon 64 x2 processors for multimedia uses under GNU/Linux... If you still want to buy and Intel plateform, you should take a motherboard from ASUS + Core2 Duo or better. The best quality/performances/price is AMD. Hope it helps, Laurent lprod.org Le 26/04/2010 13:14, Fernando Gomes a écrit : Hi Laurent Thanks for your answer! The PC I'm trying to use has an MSI motherboard, I'll check its model and the processor installed tomorrow. Since there is a final ubuntu 10.04 version now, I'll try to install it and if it works I'll then install the ubuntustudio packages as you suggested. With previous ubuntustudio versions there were lockups during boot if using the realtime kernel. I have best results downloading the standard kernel, applying the rt patch to it, compile it and install it, but also had some stability issues (some freezes from time to time). I'll try with this new version and I'll let you know Best regards Fernando Hello all! I've changed my system due to compatibility problems with ubuntustudio, but still have similar problems with the new one. Both have Athlon 64 x2 processors, one has a MSI motherboard, other an Elite motherboard. With the current 10.04 release (not final) I have also similar problems (it doesn't even boot this time, after installing the OS). I remember a previous discussion recommending the use of Intel processors. So it seems I have to change my motherboard and CPU again, now for an Intel :-( What are your recommendations for an inexpensive Intel based configuration, able to run Ubuntustudio? It must be inexpensive, it will be my third motherboard and CPU for my homestudio, if it isn't inexpensive my wife will kill me :-) I've saw some inexpensive motherboard+cpu bundles, with an ASROCK G31M-S motherboard and an Intel E3300 CPU, do you think this dual core celeron has enough power to have some realtime effects running well (p.e. rackarrack)? And with this hardware should I expect some compatibility issues with ubuntustudio? Thanks and best regards Fernando -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
