Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange question: record audio on time delay.

2012-04-30 Thread Neil Greenwood
Try the sox package. It has utilities to play back and record, which you can then script from cron or at. Neil. P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone. On May 1, 2012 2:38 AM, "Tim Dobson" wrote: > Ok Guys, > > This is an end-user question... which is strange because I usually th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Les Pounder
Hi Gareth, all. Sorry for top post, I'm on my mobile. Try in a terminal sudo apt-get install -f Should fix the issue. Les Pounder Blackpool LUG On Apr 30, 2012 11:10 PM, "Gareth France" wrote: > On 30/04/12 23:01, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > > On 30 April 2012 22:49, Gareth France wrote: > >

[ubuntu-uk] Strange question: record audio on time delay.

2012-04-30 Thread Tim Dobson
Ok Guys, This is an end-user question... which is strange because I usually think I should know the answer to a question like this... but I don't. It is reputed that I snow. Allegedly, when camping, people have confused the sound with that of a quadbike due the the volume and consistency. I'm no

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 oddities

2012-04-30 Thread Roy Jamison
I think what we're trying to say is maybe it's time to upgrade ;) On May 1, 2012 12:13 AM, "Alan Pope" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 30/04/12 11:20, paul sutton wrote: > > on the partition page i choose set up and tried to partition as > > follows > > > > / 50mb

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Roy Jamison
Install the offending package and remove it. Should clear up any confusion the system has. On Apr 30, 2012 11:10 PM, "Gareth France" wrote: > On 30/04/12 23:01, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > > On 30 April 2012 22:49, Gareth France wrote: > >> On 30/04/12 22:44, Tony Pursell wrote: >> >>> apt-cache

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread Timothy Rittman
On 30/04/12 18:26, scoundrel50a wrote: Just to say, it works ok now, thank you.. For completeness, the wacom howto on the forum is the most comprehensive and helpful page I've come across. Strangely it never appears near the top of a google search. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 oddities

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/04/12 11:20, paul sutton wrote: > on the partition page i choose set up and tried to partition as > follows > > / 50mb That's not big enough. > /home 100mb Neither is that. Also, why have a separate home? > swap 10mb > Nor is that big enou

[ubuntu-uk] Problem installing

2012-04-30 Thread David Smith
At the risk of someone having had a similar problem, I'm struggling to install Ubuntu on my desktop. My netbook accepted Xubuntu absolutely fine, and I am getting to grips it. My desktop however won't accept Ubuntu x86. I have tried with a CDROM and unetbootin, with the live CD and with the a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 23:01, Tony Pursell wrote: On 30 April 2012 22:49, Gareth France > wrote: On 30/04/12 22:44, Tony Pursell wrote: apt-cache search sense* Ok, now I'm really confused. That brought up damn near every package in the cache! Nothing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 22:53, Alan Bell wrote: On 30/04/12 22:49, Gareth France wrote: On 30/04/12 22:44, Tony Pursell wrote: apt-cache search sense* Ok, now I'm really confused. That brought up damn near every package in the cache! Nothing looked promising but doing the same for scratch brought up: s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Tony Pursell
On 30 April 2012 22:49, Gareth France wrote: > On 30/04/12 22:44, Tony Pursell wrote: > >> apt-cache search sense* >> > Ok, now I'm really confused. That brought up damn near every package in > the cache! Nothing looked promising but doing the same for scratch brought > up: > > squeak-plugins-scr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Bell
On 30/04/12 22:49, Gareth France wrote: On 30/04/12 22:44, Tony Pursell wrote: apt-cache search sense* Ok, now I'm really confused. That brought up damn near every package in the cache! Nothing looked promising but doing the same for scratch brought up: squeak-plugins-scratch and a few othe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 22:44, Tony Pursell wrote: apt-cache search sense* Ok, now I'm really confused. That brought up damn near every package in the cache! Nothing looked promising but doing the same for scratch brought up: squeak-plugins-scratch and a few others but trying to remove: Package squeak-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Tony Pursell
On 30 April 2012 22:31, Gareth France wrote: > On 30/04/12 22:28, Barry Drake wrote: > >> On 30/04/12 22:21, Gareth France wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately it's not showing up in the software centre so I'm unsure >>> of how to uninstall it. As for the wording of my post I've long since >>> learned tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu spotted In The Wild

2012-04-30 Thread John Oliver
On 30/04/12 22:07, Barry Drake wrote: On 30/04/12 22:04, Barry Titterton wrote: My employer's IT department confirmed that they have no plans to move away from a Windows based installation. Shame. Be patient. Persuade them in a roundabout way that won't involve you, that they MUST upgrade to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 22:39, Barry Drake wrote: On 30/04/12 22:31, Gareth France wrote: E: Unable to locate package sense_1.3.1.137-6_i386 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'sense_1.3.1.137-6_i386' Nope, I'm stumped. Sounds a bit like a debian package with the library lib-common-sense - try a searc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/04/12 22:31, Gareth France wrote: E: Unable to locate package sense_1.3.1.137-6_i386 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'sense_1.3.1.137-6_i386' Nope, I'm stumped. Sounds a bit like a debian package with the library lib-common-sense - try a search of the Debian packages for sense.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 22:28, Barry Drake wrote: On 30/04/12 22:21, Gareth France wrote: Unfortunately it's not showing up in the software centre so I'm unsure of how to uninstall it. As for the wording of my post I've long since learned that I get shouted at for my wording however I put it so I've given

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/04/12 22:21, Gareth France wrote: Unfortunately it's not showing up in the software centre so I'm unsure of how to uninstall it. As for the wording of my post I've long since learned that I get shouted at for my wording however I put it so I've given up on that one! Someone far clever

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 21:43, Colin Law wrote: On 30 April 2012 21:32, Gareth France wrote: On 30/04/12 21:22, Barry Drake wrote: On 30/04/12 21:12, Gareth France wrote: Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says: Require

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu spotted In The Wild

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/04/12 22:04, Barry Titterton wrote: My employer's IT department confirmed that they have no plans to move away from a Windows based installation. Shame. Be patient. Persuade them in a roundabout way that won't involve you, that they MUST upgrade to Windows 8!!! -- Barry Drake is a mem

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu spotted In The Wild

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Titterton
Last week, while walking through the IT department at work, I spotted a laptop running Ubuntu (Unity). For one brief, wonderful moment I thought my employers were investigating a move to a linux based system. However it turned out that the laptop belonged to an engineer from one of the software com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 oddities

2012-04-30 Thread Roy Jamison
Will the root fs even fit in 50MB?? On Apr 30, 2012 7:21 PM, "paul sutton" wrote: > Hi > > Just done a clean install of 12.04 on a dell 10v netbook > > on the partition page i choose set up and tried to partition as follows > > / 50mb > /home 100mb > swap 10mb > > I could create / fine, creating

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 April 2012 21:32, Gareth France wrote: > On 30/04/12 21:22, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> On 30/04/12 21:12, Gareth France wrote: >>> >>> Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every >>> 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says: Requires installation >>> of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
On 30/04/12 21:22, Barry Drake wrote: On 30/04/12 21:12, Gareth France wrote: Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says: Requires installation of untrusted packages The action would require the installation of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Andy Braben
On 30 April 2012 21:12, Gareth France wrote: > Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every > 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says: > > Requires installation of untrusted packages > > The action would require the installation of packages from unauthenti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/04/12 21:12, Gareth France wrote: Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says: Requires installation of untrusted packages The action would require the installation of packages from unauthenticated sources.

[ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

2012-04-30 Thread Gareth France
Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says: Requires installation of untrusted packages The action would require the installation of packages from unauthenticated sources. In the details: apport apport-gtk li

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Andres Muniz
> I'm also not keen on the 'do a re-install' mantra.  Its great if you > have a minimal system, like I had on my netbook, but my desktop has > loads of extras installed that I would have to remember and re-install. i am of the same opinion. Wasn't there the apt on CD thing? And also you could s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread James Morrissey
> I found U1 to be very good with smallish files and a bit burdened with large > files - I experimented with zipped files of 2GB or more, which would be > useful for me. From Ubuntu 11.10 it was not too bad but it was hard to keep > track of what stage it was at in a long upload process - my down /

[ubuntu-uk] 12.04 oddities

2012-04-30 Thread paul sutton
Hi Just done a clean install of 12.04 on a dell 10v netbook on the partition page i choose set up and tried to partition as follows / 50mb /home 100mb swap 10mb I could create / fine, creating /home however took up the rest of the hard disk (110 mb despite me making it clear i wanted it 100mb)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 15:48, Keith Burnett wrote: Hi James No, its just like last time. Two shift-alt-SysRq-b restarts later I've purged ubuntuone-client. I use dropbox to sync PC to netbook, which is horribly hassle free in comparison. It is a shame that I can't brag about Ubuntu One. I appreciate that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
Just to say, it works ok now, thank you.. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
On 30/04/12 18:12, Paul Sladen wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, scoundrel50a wrote: I am trying to get my wacom tablet to work, but it needs a command, We need some high-level information. Is the Wacom tablet: (a) Connected by a serial cable (b) Connected by a USB cable (c) Built-in (eg.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
On 30/04/12 18:12, Paul Sladen wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, scoundrel50a wrote: I am trying to get my wacom tablet to work, but it needs a command, We need some high-level information. Is the Wacom tablet: (a) Connected by a serial cable (b) Connected by a USB cable (c) Built-in (eg.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread Paul Sladen
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, scoundrel50a wrote: > I am trying to get my wacom tablet to work, but it needs a command, We need some high-level information. Is the Wacom tablet: (a) Connected by a serial cable (b) Connected by a USB cable (c) Built-in (eg. Tablet computer) Is the Wacom pad: (1)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
It needs something more, but thanks for your reply though. On 30/04/12 17:47, James Thomas wrote: Isn't there a wacom section under settings? Is this good enough for you? On Apr 30, 2012 4:52 PM, "scoundrel50a" > wrote: I am trying to get my wacom table

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread James Thomas
Isn't there a wacom section under settings? Is this good enough for you? On Apr 30, 2012 4:52 PM, "scoundrel50a" wrote: > I am trying to get my wacom tablet to work, but it needs a command, but > because I had to reinstall, lost the history on the terminal, so lost the > comand, I did post about

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/04/12 16:00, Tony Pursell wrote: I would be keen on keeping with 12.04 LTS until the next LTS, but I know I will lose out on upgrades to packages like LO. If I were on Windows, there would be no problem getting the next LO release. I hope developers will look at getting more package upd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Paul Madarasz
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:38:49 +0100, alan c wrote, perhaps among other things: >On 30/04/12 10:57, Daniel Case wrote: >> Big clear warnings get a +1 from me - I was in #ubuntu and on the Ubuntu >> Forums the last few days and have noticed others have also been screwed by >> the upgrade - A lot of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Tony Pursell
On 30 April 2012 16:52, Keith Burnett wrote: > Hello Tony > > Sorry about 'chap', no offense meant. > > No offense was taken. Keith > It would be good if the upgrade process was better than it is for people. > As Alan C is always emphasising as Ubuntu gets on consumer devices, laptops > etc mor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Keith Burnett
Hello Tony Sorry about 'chap', no offense meant. It would be good if the upgrade process was better than it is for people. As Alan C is always emphasising as Ubuntu gets on consumer devices, laptops etc more people are going to have to cope with an 'operating system replacement' which is what

[ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
I am trying to get my wacom tablet to work, but it needs a command, but because I had to reinstall, lost the history on the terminal, so lost the comand, I did post about it somewhere, either here or on ubuntu-uk iRC but cant find it anywhere, and I cant get my tab to work without it..anybo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Bruno Girin
On 30/04/12 11:29, Colin Law wrote: > On 30 April 2012 11:15, Andy Braben wrote: >> ... >> Backing up is important and vital at all times - not just for an upgrade. I >> do not have a lot of sympathy for users who never ever backup, and never >> enters their heads to do so. To me it is vitally imp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Tony Pursell
Hi All On 30 April 2012 15:10, alan c wrote: > On 30/04/12 15:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: > >> Hello All >> >> Hum backups >> >> Ubuntu One accounts get 5Gb free. I'm wondering if an option to >> automatically sync the Documents folder with Ubuntu One might help >> people not loose lots

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Keith Burnett
Hi James No, its just like last time. Two shift-alt-SysRq-b restarts later I've purged ubuntuone-client. I use dropbox to sync PC to netbook, which is horribly hassle free in comparison. It is a shame that I can't brag about Ubuntu One. I appreciate that there might be a bit more traffic than

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread James Morrissey
> I'm trying to install Ubuntu One now. It's been sitting there for about 25 > minutes doing nothing. The coffee bar I'm in now can do 1mb/s on download, I > abuse it often (noone else uses a laptop in here) I had some similar problems on both of the machines on which i tried an install. I cance

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
On 30/04/2012 15:13, alan c wrote: On 30/04/12 15:03, scoundrel50a wrote: I been following this because I posted on here a couple of days ago, about me having screwed my installation...well I managed to find somebody willing to help, and got talked through the actual installation, and instea

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread kpb
Hello Glad you got your install sorted out. I'm trying to install Ubuntu One now. It's been sitting there for about 25 minutes doing nothing. The coffee bar I'm in now can do 1mb/s on download, I abuse it often (noone else uses a laptop in here) I'd hoped things had improved since the last tim

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 15:03, scoundrel50a wrote: I been following this because I posted on here a couple of days ago, about me having screwed my installation...well I managed to find somebody willing to help, and got talked through the actual installation, and instead of installing over, just installin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 15:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: Hello All Hum backups Ubuntu One accounts get 5Gb free. I'm wondering if an option to automatically sync the Documents folder with Ubuntu One might help people not loose lots of work? I know it is getting into Google Chrome OS territory, and,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
On 30/04/2012 15:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: Hello All Hum backups Ubuntu One accounts get 5Gb free. I'm wondering if an option to automatically sync the Documents folder with Ubuntu One might help people not loose lots of work? I know it is getting into Google Chrome OS territory, a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread scoundrel50a
I been following this because I posted on here a couple of days ago, about me having screwed my installation...well I managed to find somebody willing to help, and got talked through the actual installation, and instead of installing over, just installing the package and keeping my home dir

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread kpb
Hello All Hum backups Ubuntu One accounts get 5Gb free. I'm wondering if an option to automatically sync the Documents folder with Ubuntu One might help people not loose lots of work? I know it is getting into Google Chrome OS territory, and, yes, potentially another annoying and confusing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 11:14, Colin Law wrote: On 30 April 2012 09:35, Alan Bell wrote: ... http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/upgradepics/offer.png http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/upgradepics/confirm.png Perhaps it would be worthwhile to have a warning on one of these that all important data shou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

2012-04-30 Thread Phill Whiteside
I think you under-estimate those who have been using *buntu for a while. They're more canny than a lot give credit to. For example we have a fairly n00b who just came onto IRC questioning why the upgrade wanted to install 2-zillion packages Good old https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/Relea

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 10:57, Daniel Case wrote: Big clear warnings get a +1 from me - I was in #ubuntu and on the Ubuntu Forums the last few days and have noticed others have also been screwed by the upgrade - A lot of people assume it's safe, a lot of people have lost a lot of data attempting it. People

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 13:49, Colin Law wrote: On 30 April 2012 13:33, MS wrote: SNIP Update = minor updates to existing software, no big changes. Upgrade = major upgrade of the whole system, including new software versions, possibly significant changes in UI, needs a lot more time to do, etc. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread alan c
On 30/04/12 09:35, Alan Bell wrote: easily confuse an up'date' with an up'grade'. > Whereas updates are usually fairly safe, upgrades are not. that is the bit that needs fixing, an upgrade should be as safe as an update. Hi Alan There are *two* bits that need fixing not only the one bit!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

2012-04-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 April 2012 14:04, Phill Whiteside wrote: > I'd love to see how you re-install without touching /home if it is NOT a > seperate partition which is the whole point of that link? The link is out of date. Since a couple of releases ago if you select the Something Else option at the start of th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

2012-04-30 Thread Phill Whiteside
I'd love to see how you re-install without touching /home if it is NOT a seperate partition which is the whole point of that link? Secondly, taking a backup oh your /home partition once you have it is 'walk in the park'. Thirdly, it is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntuWhich st

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 April 2012 13:33, MS wrote: > SNIP > > > >> Update = minor updates to existing software, no big changes. >> >> Upgrade = major upgrade of the whole system, including new software >> versions, possibly significant changes in UI, needs a lot more time to >> do, etc. If worded correctly, it cou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

2012-04-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 April 2012 13:32, Phill Whiteside wrote: > I think that the passage > >> When upgrading from a previous release, it is always a good idea to >> [[https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving | move /home]], >> it gives additional safe guards for your own data. In any case, taki

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread MS
SNIP Update = minor updates to existing software, no big changes. Upgrade = major upgrade of the whole system, including new software versions, possibly significant changes in UI, needs a lot more time to do, etc. If worded correctly, it could act as a warning that it's an operation that takes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

2012-04-30 Thread Phill Whiteside
I think that the passage When upgrading from a previous release, it is always a good idea to [[ > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving | move > /home]], it gives additional safe guards for your own data. In any case, > taking a backup is recommended. > Should be, placed ever

[ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

2012-04-30 Thread Nigel Verity
I think the suggestion by "kpb" for a direct LTS -> LTS upgrade path is inspired. I have successfully encouraged a number of "low tech" users to move from Windows and always put them onto the current LTS for the sake of stability, with excellent results. It would be very good for the image of

[ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 - nontechnical users

2012-04-30 Thread alex
hi Alan, " "well it doesn't hose the system, it upgrades it to newer and better stuff." Yeah - but from the perspective of the average non-tech user (who was just hitting Next Next Next so they could go to cBeebies - a major upgrade DOES need to be a deliberate action  (return return r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 - catering tor nontechnical users

2012-04-30 Thread alex
  Whoops - forgot to say what I DID learn the hard way. When I accepted the upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 alpha to 10.04 LTS, I had my mouse plugged in - the build then wouldn't read either my mouse or the onboard trackpad. I didn't make this mistake when upgrading the 910 instance on this or my main

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 - catering tor nontechnical users

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Bell
On 30/04/12 12:20, a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi folks, Looking at those screenshots, there is one GLARING omission... the default radio button is "YES - I do want to upgrade". With the risk for non-technical users, surely this should have the default radio button (which actions when

[ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 - catering tor nontechnical users

2012-04-30 Thread alex
Hi folks, Looking at those screenshots, there is one GLARING omission... the default radio button is "YES - I do want to upgrade".  With the risk for non-technical users, surely this should have the default radio button (which actions when you hit Return) set as NO. This way, upgrades are a deli

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 April 2012 11:15, Andy Braben wrote: > ... > Backing up is important and vital at all times - not just for an upgrade. I > do not have a lot of sympathy for users who never ever backup, and never > enters their heads to do so. To me it is vitally important - I keep backups > off site as well

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Making VLC multiregion Thanks to Kris works fine now.

2012-04-30 Thread Kris Douglas
On 30 April 2012 11:25, Michael Daniels wrote: > Thanks Kris, worked, no problems with a Region 1 DVD . (UK is region 2, > which seems to be the default setting of VLC.)  I have printed the Community > Documentation item, so other can be helped if needed. Have a great day, > regards, Michael Glad

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Making VLC multiregion Thanks to Kris works fine now.

2012-04-30 Thread Michael Daniels
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:01:54 +0100 > From: krisdoug...@gmail.com > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Making VLC muliregion > > On 29 April 2012 21:02, Michael Daniels wrote: > > VLC player is said to be multi-region, mine will only play region "0" or > > region "2"

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Andy Braben
> People also need a clear warning to backup their system - we assume it's > common sense, but apparently most don't. > > > People need a clear warning to backup their data (not system) at all times. Not just when upgrading. I have never ever had a failure upgrading Debian or Ubuntu - but I have ha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 April 2012 09:35, Alan Bell wrote: > ... > http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/upgradepics/offer.png > http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/upgradepics/confirm.png Perhaps it would be worthwhile to have a warning on one of these that all important data should be backed up before proceeding. C

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Case
Big clear warnings get a +1 from me - I was in #ubuntu and on the Ubuntu Forums the last few days and have noticed others have also been screwed by the upgrade - A lot of people assume it's safe, a lot of people have lost a lot of data attempting it. People also need a clear warning to backup thei

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Making VLC muliregion

2012-04-30 Thread Kris Douglas
On 29 April 2012 21:02, Michael Daniels wrote: > VLC player is said to be multi-region, mine will only play region "0" or > region "2". > There is a patch on "Community Documentation", starts, sudo apt-get install > libdvdread4 > Next line says "Then open a terminalwindow and execute:" > sudo /usr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Bell
On 29/04/12 22:54, alan c wrote: On 29/04/12 21:04, Alan Bell wrote: it says "do you want to upgrade?" and you can say yes or no to it. Clearly "yes" is the preferred option, but why shouldn't we encourage people to upgrade to new cool stuff that will make their experience better (which is the a