Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-22 Thread Gareth France 



On 22/06/16 09:56, Colin Law wrote:

Even better don't use facebook.

Colin


As great an ideological solution this is it really doesn't work in the 
real world. There are no genuine alternatives that are in popular use. 
You have three options if you are honest with yourself:


Use facebook and keep in contact with your friends

Use something else and lose social media contact with most if not all of 
your friends


and finally to use both and double the effort required.


I agree that something else is required, an alternative that people 
actually flock to, but it isn't here yet. That said what are the 
alternatives? And which one is the go to choice?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-22 Thread Ivan Wright 
Facebook use some quite sophisticated methods of tracking like Audio
Context and HTML Canvas, and they reach a lot further than just their site.
If you had logged into Facebook at some point on your Ubuntu phone, and you
sent an email via a web based email service which had a Facebook tracker in
they can link your activity.
Simply blocking 3rd party cookies does nothing to stop them.

Heres a lengthy, paper on the topic:
https://webtransparency.cs.princeton.edu/webcensus/index.html

I've put a few other links from my site:
http://quidsup.net/notrack/tracking.php


Sorry I didn't mean to use this as a platform to hock a FOSS program, but
I've really taken an interest in trying to prevent web trackers.
Its a huge whack-a-mole game to find all sites dedicatated to tracking, so
far I have a list of over 10,000 domains.

Ivan
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-22 Thread Colin Law 
On 22 June 2016 at 08:44, Pete Smout  wrote:
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> On 22 Jun 2016 06:13, "Gareth France"  wrote:
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>>
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>> On 22/06/16 01:10, Liam Proven wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have the FB client on your smartphone? Did you let it access
>>> your contacts? Then it knows who you called, knows his number and made
>>> the connection.
>>
>>
>> As I understand it this would not be possible on the Ubuntu phone.
>
> There's is a great advert for the Ubuntu phone

Even better don't use facebook.

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-22 Thread Simon Greenwood 
On 22 June 2016 at 08:44, Pete Smout  wrote:

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> On 22 Jun 2016 06:13, "Gareth France" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22/06/16 01:10, Liam Proven wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you have the FB client on your smartphone? Did you let it access
> >> your contacts? Then it knows who you called, knows his number and made
> >> the connection.
> >
> >
> > As I understand it this would not be possible on the Ubuntu phone.
>
> There's is a great advert for the Ubuntu phone
>
>
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A similar thing happened to me and I only use Facebook in a browser so it's
probably either that someone else has looked you up or, more likely,
they've allowed the Facebook app to access their contacts on their phone.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-22 Thread Pete Smout 
On 22 Jun 2016 06:13, "Gareth France"  wrote:
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>
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> On 22/06/16 01:10, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>> Do you have the FB client on your smartphone? Did you let it access
>> your contacts? Then it knows who you called, knows his number and made
>> the connection.
>
>
> As I understand it this would not be possible on the Ubuntu phone.

There's is a great advert for the Ubuntu phone

Pete S
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-21 Thread Gareth France 



On 22/06/16 01:10, Liam Proven wrote:

Do you have the FB client on your smartphone? Did you let it access
your contacts? Then it knows who you called, knows his number and made
the connection.


As I understand it this would not be possible on the Ubuntu phone.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-21 Thread Liam Proven 
On 21 June 2016 at 23:48, Gareth France  wrote:
> So quite how did Facebook get the idea to suggest a man who lives 100 miles
> away whom I have only ever met once as a possible friend? I am baffled as to
> when they managed to spy on me.


Do you have the FB client on your smartphone? Did you let it access
your contacts? Then it knows who you called, knows his number and made
the connection.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-21 Thread Gareth France 

I hadn't thought of that. Good thinking.

On 21/06/16 22:52, Tony Arnold wrote:

Maybe he looked you up on Facebook?

Regards,
Tony.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-21 Thread Tony Arnold 
Gareth,

On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 22:48 +0100, Gareth France wrote:

I have decided to ask Facebook for Saturday's lottery number as it is
obviously psychic. I have been dealing with a roofer who lives 100 miles
away. He did some work for my Nana who is no longer up to the task of
negotiating when things go wrong.

I have contacted him by phone, I have emailed him from a domain I own. I
have a Ubuntu phone and access my email through Thunderbird on my Ubuntu
laptop. So in theory everything is quite open and transparent.

So quite how did Facebook get the idea to suggest a man who lives 100
miles away whom I have only ever met once as a possible friend? I am
baffled as to when they managed to spy on me.



Maybe he looked you up on Facebook?

Regards,
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[ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook

2016-06-21 Thread Gareth France 
I have decided to ask Facebook for Saturday's lottery number as it is 
obviously psychic. I have been dealing with a roofer who lives 100 miles 
away. He did some work for my Nana who is no longer up to the task of 
negotiating when things go wrong.


I have contacted him by phone, I have emailed him from a domain I own. I 
have a Ubuntu phone and access my email through Thunderbird on my Ubuntu 
laptop. So in theory everything is quite open and transparent.


So quite how did Facebook get the idea to suggest a man who lives 100 
miles away whom I have only ever met once as a possible friend? I am 
baffled as to when they managed to spy on me.


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