Oracha:
I can not spare you fromthe facts! I do not live in denial or fantasia. I'm living in a real world with dangers, happiness, sollows, and pleasures.
1). Some of the most dangerous things toUganda is the UPC/Obote andthe Movt/Mu7. These two menare enemies of freedom!
2). One of our
Yea it is a statment.
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is
in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
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What makes it a "statement"?? May I ask?? Obote killed people in Luweero. Museveni killed people in Luweero! What really makes whatOracha said a 'statement' if not for non-critical thinkers to take it as their absolute, whether it holds truths or not?? That's why I'm a critical thinker. I have to
Ed,
I hope by talking of "Switching sides" from NRA/M to another group you are not referring to my good friend like Dr. Mulira? He is one of those who could even eat you alive if you even whispered the truth that NRA killed people in Luwero!
Now..to hear him talk..you think he was UPC!
This
Where has the Ugandan solidarity gone? They safest place is down South near / around orinKampala.What about at Bahai on Gayaza road or at Namagongo? And why not at Nakasongola near the Military Air base?!?! And what is more safer than ariound my former home ground at Kololo Airstrip?
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UGANDA PEOPLES CONGRESS
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1. Just to imitate Barnard Shaw, Museveni would rather reign Uganda into hell than leave democracy and rule of law to lead Uganda into bliss. Usually reliable sources have it that European countries have been persuading
UGANDA PEOPLES CONGRESS
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IS MUSEVENI PREPARING A PALACE COUP?
1. We have been reliably informed that Museveni has planned a palace coup d'tat. The coup d'tat was posed for this weekend or as early as possible targeting elimination of opposition leaders
We Cannot Turn Our Backs on Northern Uganda
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Six days a week, three times a day, a
quote: In the Korean Art JINSUI, it is stipulated that "you must use the strength of the enemy to defeat the enemy"
In case of Yoweri Museveni Kaguta. We know that Yoweri Museveni Kaguta is a calculating pathological lair. When one applies the art of JINSUI on Kaguta, one must use Museveni's LIES
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You MUST pass this ROSE on to at least 5 peoplewithin the hour of receiving this rose.You're My friend,my companion,through good timesand badmy friend,my buddy,through happy and
How so very profound! I wonder, does the same apply to Obote and the UPC?
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quote: In the
Lets not forget that beating, harrassing,imprisoning and even killing political opponents, real or imagined, were introduced to independent Uganda by one Milton Obote and his party, the UPC -- as was the involving of security forces (police army) in politics, as well as politicizing the civil
Gook
Thanks for
that insight. I will not whisper to
anyone. At least we all agree that
people died in Luwero; that was genocide before there
was genocide in Rwanda or Lira. It is
only our political and family attachments that have cast a dark shadow on our
beliefs.
We have accused the
Why all this emphasis on 'hating or loving northerners'. it is obvious that
the northerners on this forum don't particularly like southerners yet
anytime the UPC and/or Obote is criticized (strictly on his past record as
President of Uganda), that person is immediately labeled a northern hater,
Why all this emphasis on 'hating or loving northerners'. it is obvious that
the northerners on this forum don't particularly like southerners yet
anytime the UPC and/or Obote is criticized (strictly on his past record as
President of Uganda), that person is immediately labeled a northern hater,
Ssemakula:
Just watch Museveni go to hell. Kaguta is a gun man not a politician. Right now, if I may say so, your man is thoroughly isolated. All that remains to KUBA OMUTE of the SNAKE!!
Matek
a message dated 3/12/2004 12:47:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How so
How is the weather and domestic water quality in Kingston now? Anyone knows?
Ochan
At 01:30 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Why all this emphasis on 'hating or loving northerners'. it is obvious
that the northerners on this forum don't particularly like southerners yet
anytime the UPC and/or
Extremists have taken over this forum. Time to move on.
Ochan Otim
At 01:30 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Why all this emphasis on 'hating or loving northerners'. it is obvious
that the northerners on this forum don't particularly like southerners yet
anytime the UPC and/or Obote is
In a message dated 3/12/2004 1:04:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lets not forget that beating, harrassing, imprisoning and even killing political opponents, real or imagined, were introduced to independent Uganda by one Milton Obote and his party, the UPC -- as was the
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Posted to the web March 12, 2004 Joyce Namutebi
Kampala MEMBERS of the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA) have demanded
...i'll be in Califonia this summer in the Pasadena area...anybody on the
forum living around there.
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:45:09 -0800
How is the
Fellow Citizens:
The move by the NRM military dictatorship to disown statements made by "Security State Minister" Betty Akech and UPDF Army spokesman Bantariza's regarding EU envoy, Sigurd Illing, can only be view as a back peddling attempt on the part of the NRM dictatorship to try and smoothen
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Ssemakula:
Just
oh yea.
Ochan
At 02:18 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
...i'll be in Califonia this summer in the Pasadena area...anybody on the
forum living around there.
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Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
On Were's Writing
James Orach Lukang
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:32:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: mw Subject: Attn Walubo
X-Listname: UGANDA DISCUSSION LIST
Dear Dr. Walubo,
I do not see why you should waste your bites with this LRA/UPDA/Acholi
thing.
These people you have to understand have a problem
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Notice that this posting avoids - deliberately or not - giving the date
when this old material was written and first made public!! To me it tells
a lot about the intention of the messenger.
Ochan Otim
At 02:54 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
In a message dated 3/12/2004 3:09:27 PM SA Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
meanwhile the days of your man Yowesweri Kaguta ( the gun man) is Numbered. Like in
Mr Matako,
I thought you made a similar statement ten years ago.What happened? or it is the usual congress language of
Can you include the names of the authors too in its original form.
Ochan Otim
At 03:04 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
On Were's Writing
James Orach Lukang
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:32:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: mw Subject: Attn Walubo
X-Listname: UGANDA DISCUSSION LIST
Dear Dr. Walubo,
I do not see
Mwaami Ssemakula,you epitomize the adage:"The more things change,the more they remain the same!".
History is there to help us not tripple on to the same potholes that
our past took us through and thus makes us a better people.
Your pathological distaste for Obote and the UPC makes your
analysis
Sorry mispelling the screen name for Milton,s man Mr Richard Topacho His name isMatek not Matako.
So what is the address?you don't need to fear me you know...unlike you i
have no auterior motive...i have never ever killed anyoneand certainly
have no intention of doing so ever and i am not a government operative. Most
of us southerners are very independent in our thinking, that is
Kipenji:
That is too much to ask of OMWANA WA GUNDI, sseruganda.. let the man roar his nonsense until thy Kingdom come Obote yooo!!!...Obote this Yooo!!!.. Obote that Yooo.. I hate Obote Yoohoo I am going to hung on a Tomato Tree Yooo.. Like we really give a Monkey's Behind!!!
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Members:
The article below was written by Mr. Were. I do not know why
Emmanuel Musaazi decided to leave his name out. He also left out
the response to this letter written by James Orach, and deliberately
attributed Were's writing to James Lukang. I have included Lukang's
response immediately
To save the members space with the volumes that Mr. Emmanuel Musaazi is
throwing at us here, he should have just given the link below so that
members may read for themselves some stuff I captured way back in 1996:
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~ootim/acoli/coment.html
For anyone who wants more
Brigadier Kashaka trial opens
By Frank Nyakairu
March 13, 2004
KAMPALA The media and the public were yesterday locked out of Brig. Steven Kashakas trial which kicked off yesterday at the General Court martial.
Brig. Kashaka at court yesterday (Photo by John Nsimbe).
The media was also
Underdevelopment in NorthernUganda
George Otto
Fellow Ugandans,
I once more thank all of you who have continued to show interest in the
recent events in the northern part of our country.
I have noticed in some recent postings that the issue of underdevelopment in
Northern Uganda keeps
Here it is:
Ochan Otim, Ph. D.
Center for Computational Regulatory Genomics, Division of Biology
California Institute of Technology 139-74
1200 E. California, Pasadena, CA 91125
Tel: 626-395-2752 Fax: 626-795-3382
Bring it ON!
Ochan Otim
At 03:29 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
So what is the
North in true crisis situation
The refusal by cabinet to uphold a parliamentary resolution seeking to declare northern Uganda a disaster area serves nothing; like divorce, it solves little and postpones much.
With the humanitarian crisis, persistent massacres, failure to guarantee security even
Refund embezzled funds
With the rampant thieving culture in nearly all public sectors and belief among leaders that the public owes them something which they proceed to give themselves, setting up commissions of inquiry to make recommendations that are not implemented is not enough.
Time is of
Many Ugandan politicians are short sighted
If it is true that the Minister of State for Energy Daudi Migereko and the Bugabula North MP Moses Kizige were behind the violent and barbaric attack on Pafo workshop in Jinja on March 5, 2004, (See: The Monitor, March 10) then many of our politicians
Soldiers jailed for spying for Rwanda
By Jennifer Nakalema
March 13, 2004
MAKINDYE The chairman of the General Court Martial, Lt. Gen. Elly Tumwine, on Thursday remanded three army officers charged with treason.They are: Capt. Ali Yosa, 53, from Nyoke village in Arua district, Pte. Rogers Abuki,
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Mr Matako,
I thought you made a similar statement ten years ago.What happened? or it is the usual congress language of "uncordinated troop movement
Aboyombo:
Let me state for you in very clear terms,
Mr. Otim as they say the truth is bitter. What has dates got to do with it.
The Ugandan who posted the article below is being SINCERELY HONEST. YOU ARE
EMBARACED BECAUSE HIS ASSERTIONS BLOW YOU AND YOUR UPC SYCOPHANT'S ARGUMENTS
THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF UGANDA HAS AN AGENDA TO UNDERMINE THE
Katumba torments us - NDF
By Mwanguhya C. Mpagi
March 13, 2004
KAMPALA - The National Democrats Forum has listed the police chief, Maj. Gen. Katumba Wamala, among officials suffocating democracy.The NDF is headed by Mr Chapaa Karuhanga. NDF Secretary for Information, Mr James Okanya, told
My friend, i am not seeking a confrontation with you. Relax...i am just
asking to come and visit with you as fellow Ugandan..besides we are both
scientists, politics aside we might have a lot of things in common. Please
don't allow yourself to see every non-northerner (or person with divergent
...i'll give you a call very soon, so that we can get the logistics right.
From: Ochan Otim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:53:57 -0800
Here it is:
Ochan Otim, Ph. D.
Center for
Thank you very much. You see how easy it is to be objective...now that
didn't heart did it. I hope this is a new begining by Mr. Ochan, to be more
objective.
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Yeah Right..and the cow jumped over the moon.
The fact is that the US, under Billy Clinton, wanted that tape to disappear into obscurity. At that time it was thought that the tape would implicate many of the conspirators (US Britain and Uganda) into the assassination of President Habyalima and
Oh my oh my!
Matekopoko, you have
not minced your words in threatening to assassinate the president of Uganda on this forum.
I am no cyber
expert, but threatening a head of state, you might be criminlasing
yourself and I hope I am wrong because I enjoy reading different views
concerning
Ed:
Kuma Ya mama Yoko!
How many of our people has Museveni Kirrdi and enjoyed over it with gee? Millions have died in Northern Uganda kirrudi by Kaguta.and now you are trying to pull some cheap propaganda shot on mwa. Like I said, it is not the intention of the UPC and other political players on
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This is common sense! Live in reality and cut down on your common talk!
Mr. Oracha you can keep your common talk to yourself! I'm only interested in critical thinkers! And definitely you are not among
Do not patronize me. I am not in your league of distortionists.
Ochan
At 05:30 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Thank you very much. You see how easy it is to be objective...now that
didn't heart did it. I hope this is a new begining by Mr. Ochan, to be
more objective.
From: Ochan Otim [EMAIL
Again, do not patronize me. You views do not represent any that remotely
promotes unity in Uganda.
Just enjoy like others who have come before you the blood of my people.
Ochan
At 05:23 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
My friend, i am not seeking a confrontation with you. Relax...i am just
Enjoy, Mr. Musaazi. Enjoy the blood of Acoli, Langi, Teso, etc. Jamaica
must be treating you well indeed.
Ochan
At 05:12 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Mr. Otim as they say the truth is bitter. What has dates got to do with
it. The Ugandan who posted the article below is being SINCERELY
..but what did i distort Mr. Ochan...i just posted word for word what was
stated by Mr. Otto put out. You are the guys doing all the distorting
apparently.
From: Ochan Otim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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..am i still welcome to visit with you.
From: Ochan Otim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: ugnet_: Is Kony due to Luweero Massacres?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:15:11 -0800
Again, do not patronize me. You views do not represent any that remotely
Mr. Ochan, firstly is Mr. Were not an Acholi (you seem to be suggesting i
left out Mr. Were's name because he was not an Acholi)..well Mr. Were is an
Acholi (don't see your point). Secondly Mr. Were's comments are important
because he brings out the point that some northern politicians are
Folks,
If you really wish to indulge in spooky numbers, I just heard a commentator
say on NPR that the blast in Madrid on 3/11 came exactly 911 days after
9/11. Does it actually add up? If so, is it coincidence or are the
terrorists telling us in code where or when the next big blast is going
Lets just say you do not know Mr. Mohammed Were, or, should I say, you know
not what you are writing or should not write anymore? I wish we also had
weeds here!
Ochan
At 07:31 PM 3/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Mr. Ochan, firstly is Mr. Were not an Acholi (you seem to be suggesting i
left out
You enjoy the blood of our people...and don't bring Teso and Lango into it
(it's just a few crooked lango politicians), who are fomenting trouble...you
are just trying to get some company...must be lonely being out in the cold
lie. Slowly the lie is getting untangled.
From: Ochan Otim [EMAIL
Dr. Kipenji,
I challenge you to substantiate and/or elaborate your statement about my supposed "pathological distaste for Obote and the UPC" with reference to a specific posting I have made on this forum regarding Obote and the UPC.
Somehow, I get the feeling you'll come up short, in which case
Acholi,
Lango, Teso MPs bury
differences
By John Kakande
MPs from Lango, Acholi
and Teso have buried the hatchets and agreed to work
jointly to end the Kony war.
The reconciliation followed two days of closed-door deliberations at Parliament
House in Kampala.
There have been counter
Mr. Matek,
My reference was to Mr. Ibingira -- a formar Secretary General, LegalAdvisor, Minister of Justice, Minister of State of the UPC until he was unceremoniously arrested and detained without trial for about 5 years byyour saint, Obote -- was merely to point to an insider's view as to how
Caesarean refusal leads to murder charge
Friday, March 12, 2004 Posted: 12:13 PM EST (1713 GMT) Rowland was charged with the murder of her stillborn baby.
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- A pregnant woman who allegedly ignored medical warnings to have a Caesarean section to save her twins was
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Minister of State of the UPC until he was unceremoniously arrested and detained without trial for about 5 years by your saint, Obote
Ssemakula:
Now let me ask you a simply question: being of sane mind, and
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