[Ugnet] Mulindwa's Article
I have not seen or read Munini's article and so cannot say anything about it. I read Mulindwa's article and at first had doubt about it aims or message but on further reading i understood that i could no more information than what was written; that we should respect the president and that even in Canada a broadcast station's license would be 'yanked' if you did what Mwenda on the KFM station in Uganda. Presumably the law about respecting the president or prime minister is written so that it has emergency authority to yank licenses as soon as disrespect occurs. Otherwise the case would have to be investigated and a a charged proffered then depending on the outcome, actions would be taken against the radio station or culprit. I say that this case would not arise in Canada for several reasons: 1) No Canadian leader has stayed in power the way Museveni has stayed in power in Uganda. Hence, the likelihood of such a leader losing the respect of the media would be very low if not nil. 2) No Canadian leader would have made such statement as Museveni has made after the fatal crash of the presidential helicopter in which a neighboring leader has lost his life. 3) In event that the leader involved himself in a controversial issues as Museveni did, a talk show host can be within his right to challenge his administration through his aides as has happened in Mwenda's case. It was a case in which each side was daring the other one way or another. And the listeners would understand the flow and turn of conversation. So,I think Mulindwa was not clearin his mind when he decided to write the article. It just did not make the kind of sense he was trying to parley to the readers. The conditions in Canada cannot be compared to the conditions in Uganda at this time. Onegi pa Obol We all use freedom of speech but we respect the law. I read the transcript of Andrew Mwenda and some of the statements he made in that program, Dr Mulera can not make them in Canada waves if he wants to have a license. I have to be very careful here for Andrew Mwenda's case is soon going to be before a judge so I cannot debate any of his statements. But I would ask Dr Muniini Mulera to go back and read the transcript of that program, and wonder if he had a radio station in Canada if he would make such statements on a prime Minister of Canada and see if the CRTC would not yank his license. Freedom of speech does not empower us to disrespect our leaders, and I happen to be one of the people who have opposed the Movement for a very long time, but like it or no t Yoweri Museveni is a president of Uganda today, and we owe him that respect. ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 123
Sharangabo I am surprised you have omitted Uganda from your lineage. Well, to you being Rwandese is not alright: you have to be Congolese also. Even then you are not satisfied with that. You have to be an African more than any other else. That to you is the most important thing to be. Can you tell us why that is better than being Rwandese? Because unless i know why you have made those statements and then went ahead to speak with authority and conviction on a Uganda matter simply indicates some faulty major logic. It could be the "break" we are waiting "to crack the case wide open." Onegi pa ObolMessage:2Date:Sat,13Aug200522:16:44-0400(EDT)From:sharangaborufagari<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject:[Ugnet]]MUSEVENIISRIGHTONCRACKINGDOWNTHESUBVRESIVEPRESS!To:ugandanet@kym.net,[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type:text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"OmwamiEdwardMulindwa,AsIstated,IamalwayshonoredtobeinvitedtotalkwithmyAfricanbrotherswhoweverthemaybe.DearMulindwa,IamaRwandanbymybirthright sp;butalsoIamacongolesebymybirthrightalso..TherearenotaneedtogotroughhistorytodeterminatewhoamI.ThemostimportantthingistoknowthatIamanAfrican!AltoughIknowthetorchoftheLIGHTfortheREBIRTHofofourcontinenthasbeenlightUpfromKIGALI.ThisanothermatterIwillbeexplainingtoourfellowsbrothersinthedayscoming!AsforMrMWENDAfromtheMonitorbeingdetained.IfeelthestateofUGANDAisfulfilingitsprimarydutyan dthatmeanPROTECTINGthesecurityoftheNATION.OmwamiMulimdwa.YouwillbesurprisedtolearnthatMWENDA,OBBOandtheMONITORrepresentthebestoftheUgandanMediaforme!ThosearetheonlyIreadfromwhenIwanttolearnaboutwhatgoingoninUganda.Intheotheraspect,IunderstandMuseveniposition.TherewasdefinitelywhatIwillcalltheMismanagementofthefreedomofpressinUganda,fromthebeginning!TheNRM,justgaveawaysomeverysensitiveissuesawayfromthebeginning .Andnowitmaylivetofeelsorrowsaboutit,ThePresshastoberegulated.OnehasnottolookortoimitateWESTERNERS(Americans,French,English)tobeaDEMOCRAT.Africahasit'sownrealityandwehavetolivebyit!Orotherwisetheywillbesommoretragediesaheadoftime.SharangaboEdwardMulindwa<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:SharangaboRufagariYesit isgoodyouhavejoinedUgandanetbutyouaremissingoneimportantfactherethatUgandanethascriticalthinkers,soafterIreadyourRwandeseMumbojumboletmeaskforaverysimpleclarification.IfMwendaasareporteroraprogramoperatormadestatementsthatthreateningthesecurityofUganda,whywastheradiostationclosed?Mwendawasjustanemployeeofaradiostation.Kindlyexplaintomewhythestationwasclosed.EmTorontoTheMulindwasCommunicationGroup"WithYoweriMuseveni,Ugandais inanarchy"GroupedecommunicationMulindwas"avecYoweriMuseveni,l'Ougandaestdansl'anarchie"-OriginalMessage-From:sharangaborufagariTo:ugandanet@kym.netSent:Saturday,August13,20058:44PMSubject:[Ugnet]MUSEVENIISRIGHTONCRACKINGDOWNTHESUBRESIVEPRESS!sharangaborufagari<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Dearnetters,dearAfricans,IwouldlikefirsttothankourUgandanbrotherstohaveextendedmetheinvitationtojointthe& nbsp;wonderfulUGANDANETforumwhichisisquotedonGOOGLE.Iusuallyadresstoover10.000nettersovertheworldondailybasisandtheyareusualyfromRwandaandDRC.ButthistimeIfeelveryprivilegedtobewithourUGANDANbrothersaswesharethesamebackgroundasaPeopleandmostlyasBROTHERS.Brothersfromthesamegeograpicarea,brothersfromourcomonhistoryandmostlybrothersboundtoacomondestiny.MUSEVENIISRIGHTONCRACKINGDOWNTHESUBRESIVEPRESS!.Dearfriends, bsp;WeAfricanshavetoberealistical!Therearenowaywecanextrapolatethewesternvaluesinourcontinent.Againifwewishtodothat,weshouldthattherightway!IamtalkingaboutthefreedomofPress.Themassmediacommunication.AndIamcomingfromtowhathappenedinRWANDAduringthe94Genocide.ThishumantragedyhappenedprimordialybecausetheMEDIAtools(Radio,newspapers,etc..)DuringthattimethekillerswereguidedbyRadiotothepotentialtarget. ;Havingthisfactinmind.IbelievethatanyresponsiblegovernmentinourcontinenthasnotonlytheRIGHTbutalsotheOBLIGATIONtointerveneasquicklyasitcantopreventtheWORSTtohappentohispeople.Thenationalsecuritymatterisveryimportant.Thisisnotajoke!NotevenintheMIGHTYand"Democratic"USA,theywillallowthepresstoactasitwishwhenthenationalsecurityaffairsareconcerned.OnehastolookbackattherelationbetweentheUSgovernementandthepressinIRAK. ;Finaly,IamconvincedthatthePresidentofUgandaisactingonthefullrightofhismandateandfulfillinghisdutieswhichbestowedtohimbythepeoplesofUganda.RegardsSharangaboRufagari& nbsp;Montreal,Canada. ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Fw: [ngomrom] Museveni Bares His Teeth
They have eyes but see not: they have ears but they hear not. This country, Uganda, is in big trouble for it is being lead by liars and thieves! Onegi pa Obol Please note: forwarded message attached ---BeginMessage--- Museveni has clearly told the people of Uganda in no uncertain language that the Movement (a code name for Museveni) will continue ruling Uganda irrespective of the referendum. The referendum is his way of ferreting out the opposition with bait for political pluralism then liquidating them. At the same time he is ensuring that anyone that remains in the NRM must follow what he Museveni wants. Anytime you disagree with him, Museveni, you will be kicked out the NRM, and subsequently out of political power. You will then be subjected to the machination of the NRM who are dubbed 'the people' in the referendum exercise. To choose a side in the referendum, there are two symbols: The Tree and the Hut with a closed door. Museveni is leading the team campaigning for the Tree and other Movement supporters or die-hard are campaigning for the Hut. So, if you vote for the Tree, you vote for Museveni. If you vote for the Hut, then you vote for maintaining the current system, which is being lead by Museveni himself. That is why so many people find the exercise meaningless.In a newspaper report: Museveni said that the referendum is not a contest between political parties and the Movement insisting that it was important to free those who feel conscripted into the Movement, disarm those that have been spreading damaging propaganda against his government in the international community and to allow the minority that have refused to embrace the Movement ideology to belong to their own home."We are not asking you to vote on what is better between the Movement and political parties; that one we decided a long time ago. The Movement wants to rid itself of those people," Museveni said. "There is nothing wrong with the Movement; it is the best. The question is how long should we wrestle with people who have persistently refused to join us for the last 19 years?" he said. End of newspaper report.Looking at it another way, political parties have already been registered by an act of Parliament. So, if the notion that the majority of Ugandans are already NRM members is true, why waste money on a referendum that makes no sense anyway? The majority will simply vote for the NRM and save the 22 billion for other urgent projects.Last month MPs backed a controversial amendment to the draft constitution, which would scrap limit on presidential terms. And now the referendum is going to be used to stifle multiparty and entrench the NRM as the only political system. And Museveni will rule as long as his system stands. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. No Change or Kisanja wins. --Posted by kaladima to ngomrom at 7/27/2005 09:57:00 AM ---End Message--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] Re: [Ugandacom] UPDF lower ranks neglected
What is the direction of this sarcasm, Mulindwa? Onegi pa Obol Please note: message attached Did you vote for Museveni to be in power? You will not vote for him SO WHAT? Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Matek Opoko To: ugandanet@kym.net ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: [Ugandacom] UPDF lower ranks neglected UPDF lower ranks neglected I have served in this institution since 1985. My last promotion was in 1988 to the rank of corporal. Since then, I have been fighting Kony with no chance of apprehending him. I have done nothing for myself since then because my monthly salary is a paltry Shs140, 000. When shall I ever build a house for myself like the top army brass that own plush houses in Kampala? We were promised bank loans but the top brass have blocked the plan. We are tired of this injustice and the army commander should do something about this. Or else I will not vote Museveni. Name withheld on request,Gulu. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Ugandacom" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] RE: [FedsNet] Re: the 1966 crisis II
Kasangwawo If all your reasoning and explanation end up in What an asshole ! how do you think this is going to convince people to see what a brilliant historian you are? Tell us what you think about the constitution as it affects the current people in Uganda and what you will do to protect it and how you will do it. Also tell us what you expect from us your listeners so we can respond approriately. What you claim to be history or facts seem to be your wishes and expectations. It does not absolve you from being an ordinary Ugandan subject to the constitution. History may be good but now is better. Are you trying to relive history? If so, how can your reader or contributors to your message become assholes? It is because of such people like you that Uganda is going astray! You have the guns and you can not talk development but history and everymorning your are borrowing money from overseas to prevent Obote from returning to Uganda. Yours is too much Kasangwawo. Onegi pa obol -- jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Onegi pa Obol, I don't know how you came to the conclusion that my intention is to create grounds for great upheavals in the country ! All I am attempting to do is to give you the facts of our History, so we can all learn from it. I am not encouraging dictators to use the same mean tricks Obote used then, on the contrary I abhor them. But as the situation stands today, it seems we haven't learnt from that History. You may think that Obote is infallible but the fact is that he set the example for taking over power using the military which was the beginning of the troubles we are still experiencing today. If you can't see the glaring similarities - Congo, messing with the Constitution, etc. - I'm sorry I can't simplify for you farther than that. What an asshole ! Kasangwawo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net To: ugandanet@kym.net Subject: Re: [Ugnet] RE: [FedsNet] Re: the 1966 crisis II Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:41:07 GMT I must thank all those learned or educated or informed persons who have lead us to believe that Uganda is about Obote and Mutesa. Thank you for having a mind that allows other dictators to emerge in Uganda using the same protocol and procedures. And thank you for creating grounds for great upheavals in the country. Onegi pa Obol -- jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: contd. The President's Secretary responded to Obote's accusations on 4th March 1966 and questioned why the Prime Minister did not specify which foreign diplomats had been asked to send troops. He reminded the Prime Minister that while on his Northern tour, serious allegations concerning plans to overthrow the Constitution had been made in Parliament and that on his return, the Prime Minister himself had acknowledged the great alarm, especially in Kampala, caused by the movement of troops which Obote himself had authorized earlier without informing the President. Connection was made between this illegal training of troops and the truck loads of arms and ammunition impounded by the Kenyan government the year before. The response further stated that In the circumstances, precautionary requests had to be made should the situation get out of hand. The safety of the nation was at stake. The President did not invite foreign troops to invade this country. The precautionary requests were conditional and did not precipitate anything. The answer further reminded the Prime Minister that during the army mutiny in 1964, he had called in British troops without informing the President who was both Head of State and Commander-in-Chief until Sir Edward demanded to be given the necessary information. Concerning the dereliction of duty accusations, the Secretary to the President stated, and I quote: As to failure to sign the two Acts, section 67 of the Constitution provides, in part, that if the President declines to perform an act as required by the Constitution, the Prime Minister may himself perform that act. In his capacity as Kabaka of Buganda and President of Uganda, Sir Edward Mutesa was put in a most invidious position over the question of the Referendum. The two Counties, the subject of the Referendum, formed part of the Kingdom of Buganda. The Prime Minister was quite aware of this quandary himself and he agreed to follow the procedures laid down in section 67 and signed the Acts. The section envisaged such a situation. It was constitutional for the President to have declined as he did. The same was true for the official opening of the session of Parliament. The Constitution did not provide that the President MUST (emphasis mine) perform the opening of each and every session. It envisaged occasions where the Vice-President could perform functions should the President be unable to do so. This was one such occasion. All of this shows that Obote was just trying to find petty reasons for carrying out his unconstitutional acts. Another problem
Re: [Ugnet] RE: [FedsNet] Re: the 1966 crisis II
I must thank all those learned or educated or informed persons who have lead us to believe that Uganda is about Obote and Mutesa. Thank you for having a mind that allows other dictators to emerge in Uganda using the same protocol and procedures. And thank you for creating grounds for great upheavals in the country. Onegi pa Obol -- jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: contd. The President's Secretary responded to Obote's accusations on 4th March 1966 and questioned why the Prime Minister did not specify which foreign diplomats had been asked to send troops. He reminded the Prime Minister that while on his Northern tour, serious allegations concerning plans to overthrow the Constitution had been made in Parliament and that on his return, the Prime Minister himself had acknowledged the great alarm, especially in Kampala, caused by the movement of troops which Obote himself had authorized earlier without informing the President. Connection was made between this illegal training of troops and the truck loads of arms and ammunition impounded by the Kenyan government the year before. The response further stated that In the circumstances, precautionary requests had to be made should the situation get out of hand. The safety of the nation was at stake. The President did not invite foreign troops to invade this country. The precautionary requests were conditional and did not precipitate anything. The answer further reminded the Prime Minister that during the army mutiny in 1964, he had called in British troops without informing the President who was both Head of State and Commander-in-Chief until Sir Edward demanded to be given the necessary information. Concerning the dereliction of duty accusations, the Secretary to the President stated, and I quote: As to failure to sign the two Acts, section 67 of the Constitution provides, in part, that if the President declines to perform an act as required by the Constitution, the Prime Minister may himself perform that act. In his capacity as Kabaka of Buganda and President of Uganda, Sir Edward Mutesa was put in a most invidious position over the question of the Referendum. The two Counties, the subject of the Referendum, formed part of the Kingdom of Buganda. The Prime Minister was quite aware of this quandary himself and he agreed to follow the procedures laid down in section 67 and signed the Acts. The section envisaged such a situation. It was constitutional for the President to have declined as he did. The same was true for the official opening of the session of Parliament. The Constitution did not provide that the President MUST (emphasis mine) perform the opening of each and every session. It envisaged occasions where the Vice-President could perform functions should the President be unable to do so. This was one such occasion. All of this shows that Obote was just trying to find petty reasons for carrying out his unconstitutional acts. Another problem was that the President had no access to the mass media which was a monopoly of Obote and his government. So while Obote could reach a lot of people, Sir Edward could only depend on the mercy of the press which was also not quite free. But on 4th March 1966 the President managed to break his silence and published two letters he had written to the Prime Minister on 28th February 1966 and 3rd March 1966. The first one read in part: This is to inform you that your public statements of 22nd and 24th February, 1966, have caused me much anxiety especially as you have not informed me of them as you are required by the Constitution. He goes on to inform Obote that his taking over of all powers of the Government of Uganda was contrary to the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land and that the suspension of the Constitution was unconstitutional. I'll quote the rest of it in full in order to do full justice to the message: I have allowed plenty of time to elapse before writing to you in the hope that after careful thought you would find your way to retracting these unconstitutional acts. I had hoped that your advisers would point it out to you that the course you were pursuing might cause instability in the country, a situation which we are all striving to avoid. Now that the dark clouds continue to mount in the very lives of the people of this country, I feel I am in duty bound to ask you to stay your hand, and to desist from continuing with the procedures against Government personnel, especially those who are commissioned to serve me. Our first duty is to the people of this country. The people decided in their great wisdom that the best way to serve them is through the means laid down in the Constitution which they themselves made. Once again, I earnestly appeal to you to adhere strictly to the Constitution in order to remove this overhanging uneasiness which cannot be conducive to peace, good order and the counrty's prosperity
[Ugnet] Our Fellow Ugandans in so Called Danger Zone Iraq
-Original-Nachricht als Anlage beigefügt BeginMessage--- This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reporting-MTA: dns;tele-ex3.uk.informa.com Received-From-MTA: dns;uksmtp3.uk.informa.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:10:51 +0100 Final-Recipient: rfc822;kym@pjbpubs.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 ---BeginMessage--- Let us pray for our fellow ugandans to return home safely! Betreff: Ugandans go to Iraq Ugandan graduates leave for Iraq Recruits undergo selection A TOTAL of 100 Ugandan graduates and S6 leavers on Thursday evening left the country for Iraq in spite of protests from Members of Parliament. The recruits left Entebbe Airport at around 10:20pm aboard Emirates Airways and had landed in Dubai by midday Friday, sources said A Kampala lawyer, Bob Kasango of Hall Partners, contracted by an international security firm to recruit Ugandans, yesterday said, They left on Thursday evening and I think they should be in Dubai by this time. I am in touch with SOC-SMG and we are waiting for them to reach Iraq. I can assure you that they will be safe, Kasango said, declining to give details. Special Operations Consulting Security Management Group (SOC-SMG), a Nevada-based security firm, engaged Kasango to recruit people for non-combat security jobs in Iraq and other countries. Kasango sub-contracted Askar Security Services to carry out the recruitment exercise. He told journalists in Kampala last week that the recruits would be given accommodation, health insurance and a salary of between US$700-$1,000. Money will be sent to their accounts in Uganda and the firm provides insurance for the employees. In case of injury, a person is entitled to $300,000. In case of death, the next of kin gets $1m, he said. Kasangos company, Hall Partners, was contacted by an American agency to recruit Ugandans to work in Iraq. Hall and Partners subcontracted Askar Security Services to carry out the recruitment drive. They (MPs) have failed to address the issue of joblessness. I was contacted by SOC-SMG and in the spirit of patriotism, I thought it worth trying out. The problem is that some MPs think they have a monopoly of reason, he said. Internal affairs state minister Kezimbira Miyingo told Parliament that the Government knew about the recruitment but told the two foreign firms involved that it would not play any role in the deal. Last week Presidential Legal Assistant Fox Odoi on Friday said State House was aware of the recruitment but was not involved. The Chieftaincy of Military Intelligence chief, Lt. Col. James Mugira, and Internal Security Organisation acting Director-General, Dr. Amos Mukumbi, also approved the exercise after consulting State House. Kasangos company, Hall Partners, was contacted by an American agency to recruit Ugandans to work in Iraq. Hall and Partners subcontracted Askar Security Services to carry out the recruitment drive. The recruitment was approved by the internal affairs minister and the security agencies. I have information that Kasango met these people and they were convinced that there was nothing wrong, Odoi said. He said the exercise was a private matter but had been cleared by relevant organs. ---End Message--- ---End Message--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Our Fellow Ugandans in so Called Danger Zone Iraq
Betreff: Ugandans go to Iraq Ugandan graduates leave for Iraq Recruits undergo selection A TOTAL of 100 Ugandan graduates and S6 leavers on Thursday evening left the country for Iraq in spite of protests from Members of Parliament. The recruits left Entebbe Airport at around 10:20pm aboard Emirates Airways and had landed in Dubai by midday Friday, sources said A Kampala lawyer, Bob Kasango of Hall Partners, contracted by an international security firm to recruit Ugandans, yesterday said, They left on Thursday evening and I think they should be in Dubai by this time. I am in touch with SOC-SMG and we are waiting for them to reach Iraq. I can assure you that they will be safe, Kasango said, declining to give details. Special Operations Consulting Security Management Group (SOC-SMG), a Nevada-based security firm, engaged Kasango to recruit people for non-combat security jobs in Iraq and other countries. Kasango sub-contracted Askar Security Services to carry out the recruitment exercise. He told journalists in Kampala last week that the recruits would be given accommodation, health insurance and a salary of between US$700-$1,000. Money will be sent to their accounts in Uganda and the firm provides insurance for the employees. In case of injury, a person is entitled to $300,000. In case of death, the next of kin gets $1m, he said. Kasangos company, Hall Partners, was contacted by an American agency to recruit Ugandans to work in Iraq. Hall and Partners subcontracted Askar Security Services to carry out the recruitment drive. They (MPs) have failed to address the issue of joblessness. I was contacted by SOC-SMG and in the spirit of patriotism, I thought it worth trying out. The problem is that some MPs think they have a monopoly of reason, he said. Internal affairs state minister Kezimbira Miyingo told Parliament that the Government knew about the recruitment but told the two foreign firms involved that it would not play any role in the deal. Last week Presidential Legal Assistant Fox Odoi on Friday said State House was aware of the recruitment but was not involved. The Chieftaincy of Military Intelligence chief, Lt. Col. James Mugira, and Internal Security Organisation acting Director-General, Dr. Amos Mukumbi, also approved the exercise after consulting State House. Kasangos company, Hall Partners, was contacted by an American agency to recruit Ugandans to work in Iraq. Hall and Partners subcontracted Askar Security Services to carry out the recruitment drive. The recruitment was approved by the internal affairs minister and the security agencies. I have information that Kasango met these people and they were convinced that there was nothing wrong, Odoi said. He said the exercise was a private matter but had been cleared by relevant organs. ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!
What is wrong with being a pipe fitter? onegi Please note: message attached Jonah Has Mulindwa ever met anyone privately educated in the UK ? Someone should tellhim that ANYONE who can afford to go to a private schooland on to Cambridge has to have enough money and connections NOT to be a pipe fitter. Numejonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that you intentionally fail to mention that Kabaka Mutebi studied law at Cambridge and that he wrote for reknowned publications such as 'The economist' !You don't sound like you've seen the inside of a lecture room, so you might not know this. But students do all sorts of jobs during their holidays. For example Prince William of England has worked on construction in S. America and so has his brother Harry in S. Africa. I don't see you calling them builders.Ssabasajja did not go to UK to become a pipe fitter. I'm challenging you to produce the evidence that he did. So many times you have failed to provide proof after making such wild allegations.KasangwawoFrom: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.netTo: <UGANDANET@KYM.NET>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:27 -0400MOSsabasajja is a well qualified pipe fitter, he did the course in UK.Buganda's politics is so silly that it runs under the blanket of secrecy that many of these facts are not mentioned any where, and the Kasangwawo's only preach Obote is bad, and who ever does not agree with Buganda stand as a Rwandese, but facts always remain facts. Mutebi is a pipe fitter and I challenge any one to tell other wise, and I will post where he qualified.If I post it I know it is true and verifiable.EmToronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Matek Opoko To: ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW! revoke that order from the bank of Uganda books. Obote left power the second time and the family remained taking the money from Uganda government. It is that same money, why people like Kabaka Mutebi managed to go to school in UK and become pipe fitters. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com-- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/_FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
Paul Is there any paricular reason why Obote could not have been tried in a court of law up to this time? In case where he is going to be tried, should not he be presumed innocent until proven guilty, or has he already been tried and already found guilt by some private court you know of? You know there is a name for this kind of behavior even there was a case for Obote to answer, it is call miscarriage of justice. The case can bedimissed outright because of the sensasionalisation in the media. Onegi Y -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mw. Mulindwa, Ssebirumbi, was charged and convicted with murder. Museveni on the other hand has not been sued by anybody and convicted of murder. If he is ever charged, convicted and not killed the same way Ssebirumbi was killed, I will join you in cry out about the injustice. As to whether killing somebody who has been proven to have killed another is justified, I personally do not think it is right. But that is what the law provides as of now. I can join you in advocating for the change of that law. On the other hand, the likes of Ssebirumbi were even lucky that they got somebody to listen to their side of the story. There are many who were not allowed that privilege when the Ssebirumbis had the power to do so. They were simply assumed guilty and killed. Paul Quoting Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Paul Njoki So If Ssebirumbi killed the old and the infirm it justifies society to kill him as well? And the same society yet agrees Museveni to be its leader, a Museveni we all know has killed more people in Uganda than all previous leaders combined including the colonialists? And you have no idea how sorry I am to have been born into that zoo, I might have turned out a better person. You really have no idea how sorry I am. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC Mr. Mulindwa, To begin with, I have a name. If you had bothered to check at the end of the mail, you would have clearly seen my name and address. But for the record, I'm Paul Njoki. All Ugandans are movementists indeed even after parties like U.P.C. NRM-O, CP ect have registered and recruited members!! About Hajji Sebirumbi, a man who was sick. He should have thought about that at the time he commited the crimes for which he was sentenced. I'm sure among the people he was accused and convicted of killing or either the killing were the sick and the old. And yes, in Mukono, the likes of Keffa Ssemapngi have defected. As for Uganda being a zoo, you are entaitled to your opinion. It is just a pity you were also brought up in a zoo! Nice day PAUL NJOKI Quoting Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all no one defects to movement because all Ugandans are Movementists. Isn't that the old school of thoughts? Secondly I have lived here long enough to know the American system of it is okay we will take him to a trial then we will kill him. Third, how has Rwakasiisi's being in jail this long changed Uganda for better? No wonder you have no name for it all makes sense to you including the murdering of Haji Musa Ssebirumbi, a man who was clearly very sick and disabled. Again I insist Uganda is a ZOO let us just learn to move on with out it for this kind of reasoning just baffles me. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC Mw. Mulindwa, One thing that we seem to agree on here is that we want Obote like anyone else who thinks it is not a zoo to get back to Uganda if they so with. The disagreement is the on whether or not there should be a blanket amnesty. I say no amnesty to Dr. Obote or anybody else who may have been responsible for any killings in Uganda. No one is about to drag any of them to prison before a hearing. They will have to earn their places there if they can not defend themselves. Fortunately Dr. Obote is so popular that Mukono (Never mind the massive defection to the Mvnt there) has raised 25 cows for his welcome. Such a person should not find it hard to get back and correct the wrong impression that has been created about him. Yes there some former Obote ministers in government and nothing has been done about them, but lets also remind
Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is the one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started an unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart intelligent and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in the morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens. That is briefly what has been going on. Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni and his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That is your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in. Onegi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since, according to UPC, Obote and his government are not responsible for the atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime, why doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming back may be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC members who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in Luwero and elsewhere in the country. Quoting Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC THE Uganda Peoples Congress (UPC) has said information state minister Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the people who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. Speaking on phone, UPCs defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo, yesterday said, I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other than protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who threw the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote as he said. Obote is not a killer. That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from the government. We know they have sinister plans for the party president. They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the publics opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of stopping him from coming back, Wegulo said. He was reacting to Buturos warning on Luweero massacres in which he said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities. Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out openly on Obotes return. This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the government. So when the government says such things about him, we have to be very careful, Wegulo said. Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005 - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! \\\Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second rate version of someone else.\ Njoki Paul University of Pretoria ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Fw: [ngomrom] Confused Editorial from the Monitor of April 7 2005
The Monitor editorial of the 7th April 2005 is one of the weakest and most confusing pieces to have been written for readers at time when the country is bordering a crisis. It is almost equivalent to the “Irresistible Force and the Immovable Object case where no meaningful action can be taken. It would have been good to know that there is going to be no more secret voting in parliament. But this open voting is only for the constitutional amendment, because it is so important that posterity should see how our representatives voted. This is yet again one example of the NRM/Museveni junta manipulating parliament to get what they want! The Editorial says: Amending the Constitution is no small matter. The men and women who have the power to represent or quash our aspirations should be ready to stand up and be counted. But we also know that the reasons for the push for open voting were not entirely altruistic. The government and proponents of this method appear to want to send a message to MPs that “We are watching you.” The editor was addressing the removal of secret voting from parliament in the pending amendment of the constitution. The NRM has been in power for more than seventeen years now. And now when it is facing a stiff resistance to changing the constitution to allow Museveni further term to rule Uganda, it wants to get it with a threat. In other words, if the members of parliament refuse to amend the constitution they the NRM would have no one to go after if it is a secret ballot. But they will certainly go back to the bush. So, on the other hand if you vote against it and the amendment is defeated, they can come after you first and put a good example for people to see so they should not try to defy the NRM. The good part is that the people will have seen and will not support the NRM this time around. Still it is the last gamble that they can play without going into their usual routine (Luwero, skulls, Mucholi, Obote, back to power) Take a stand! This is a time for specific action. We do not have time for this kind of classroom logic. I am not against taking into consideration or looking at all possible scenarios before making a decision. But after doing so, specific action should be taken or definite side should be chosen. This is what makes a difference between a good leadership and a bad one. That editorial of April 7 2005 is incomplete because it leaves us in confusion and should not have been written. Editorial should be clear-cut and represent a strong stand that the editor is taking; a moral suation and not classroom logic. The Editorial is apended below. MPs should stand up and be counted As expected, Parliament on Wednesday voted to do away with secret voting on the Constitution Amendment Bill. The government and the Movement majority supported a motion providing for open voting on constitutional amendments. Supporters of open voting argue that it is a transparent method that forces people’s representatives to account to their constituents. Opponents argue that many Members of Parliament would be easily intimidated into voting for the government’s proposal to remove term limits and such related controversial amendments if voting were to be conducted in the open. They add that those who oppose the government’s proposals would be subjected to harassment later.If the voting were by secret ballot, it is argued, many MPs who would have feared to vote openly against the government position would do so because of the protection that secrecy would afford them. Both sides have a point. While there is a legitimate case to be made about how voting by secret ballot protects MPs from intimidation by ruling governments, there is an equally compelling case to be made for the principle of open voting in the legislature. Members of Parliament should be accountable to their constituents. The easiest and most reliable way for voters to establish whether their representative is in fact representing their interests in Parliament is if they are able to follow his or her votes on the major issues before the House. Amending the Constitution is no small matter. The men and women who have the power to represent or quash our aspirations should be ready to stand up and be counted. But we also know that the reasons for the push for open voting were not entirely altruistic. The government and proponents of this method appear to want to send a message to MPs that “We are watching you.” Whatever the motives of the proponents and opponents of open voting, not all is lost. Members of Parliament can still go into division lobby and record their votes. T he country should know where MPs stood on the third term, on the regional tier system, on dual citizenship, on giving the president powers to dissolve Parliament, in fact on all the proposed constitutional amendments. Let our representatives show us, and posterity, where they stand. -- Posted by kaladima to
[Ugnet] Fw: [ngomrom] Prelude to Disintegration
While successful party registration and ability to stage a peaceful demonstration in Kampala do not mean the NRM has become a tolerant government, it shows that it has become irrelevant as a vehicle of carrying Ugandans aspiration forward. The backdrop under which the demonstration occurred was the fact that the NRM, a few days earlier, took to the street in protest against a remark by Irish rock star Sir Bob Geldof. The UPC demonstration was, therefore, an answer to the NRM earlier demonstration. As such, the NRM/NRA could not take any repressive action without it getting completely out of hand and possibly precipitating a chaos that could prove their undoing. Museveni and his NRM has failed to unite Uganda and create condition for peaceful coexistence. Onegi Please note: forwarded message attached ---BeginMessage--- Everything that is happening in Uganda indicates that the corrupt regime of Museveni is gaining momentum for final disintegration. There is going to be no guns fired. This is simply the peoples power at work. There will be some unscrupulous people who will attempt to hijack it but they will be crushed because the people have had enough suffering in the hands of various opportunists. So, if you are an opportunist, my advice to you at this time is to wait on the side until sanity has returned.The Museveni empire/rule was built on chaos and misguided tribal sentiments and a horde of dissonant ideas: That the north versus south was the issue War in Acholi was keeping peace in Buganda and so on. That Acholis and Lugbaras were banyanyas and biological substances That only the NRA/NRM/Museveni could assure Ugandans of peace It was divide and rule pure and simple.The constitution was manipulated and doctored to suit the NRM but even then, it was pure brute force that kept Museveni in power all these years. And Ugandans, in their ways, have been tolerant of Museveni for various reasons, one of which is that they simply wish to get on with their lives. This is always mistaken for support for the existing regime.Museveni missed many chances of becoming a truly great Ugandan leader in spite of the utter use of the military for his political purposes. People begged him and showed him the way, but he refused.That many of the Museveni supporters in the army were from the west does not detract from the fact that those very same people are independent nationally oriented individuals who for one reason or another followed or joined the NRM. However, the sycophants like Bantariza wake up make their usual cry of LRA in the morning, herd people in the north to the concentration camp withouth means for survival, and call that a development program. A day's worth of work has been done. They then get rewarded by adoring soldiers who have no idea these leeches are the bane of Uganda and the reason why he is carrying a gun against his fellow countrymen.The Bugandans have agitated for various forms of special treatment, but their messages never get through clearly. Opportunists jump in and confuse the issues that should be looked at, and in the end the central government is able to garner more support to the detriment of Ugandans and Bagandans in particular. Now we are moving towards that conditions in which a regime is suddenly going to be forced out of power and very soon, too. This should be the time for sanity and respect for all sections and communities in Uganda. We need no army to ensure peace in Uganda if the people are to remain supreme. We do need police power for civil purposes so that other political activities can be undertaken to establish the framework of Uganda government.Museveni and his cronies are not going to take this lying down. As a matter of fact they are going to inject as much confusion as they can in the opposition parties. Messages of discord will be propagated. I dare say that the speech by Gilbert Bukenya telling Catholics that they will be the next president is very much in line with a Museveni tactic. It serve no useful purpose in ridding Uganda of NRM hegemony and can very well weaken any political party aligned with Catholics. Do you see where things are going?I hope that the people of Uganda will not chose this path of divisionism but instead embark on creating a framework for a robust participatory and lawful administration.Thanks be to God --Posted by kaladima to ngomrom at 3/27/2005 02:12:00 PM ---End Message--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] Kenya to Export 30 Mw to Uganda (Is this supposed to be th eother way round?)
It is quite surprising to hear that Uganda now imports electricity from Kenya. Could this be a form of cheating? We sell to Kenya so much electricity, and ask them not to pay us directly. Then we ask them instead to export what we have exported to them. Now this time we pay to Kenya the same amount they should have paid us. This money crosses the border where Kenya knows they owe Uganda. So Money in effect is exported out of Uganda twice. In plain language, it is a scam to launder money out of Uganda. That is what I believe is going on Onegi Please note: message attached The Loading shedding in Uganda has been going on close to 10 years now. Why should the reason for low output from Owen Falls dam be blamed on shortage of rainfall last year? What about the past 9 years load shedding has been going on? This is a sign of a Government whose bankrupt ideologies coupled with the massive thieving is catching up with it. Uganda indeed went to the real dogs in January 1986!. This is the price we shall all live with for the rest of our lives. The only idea Mu7 and his Cohorts introduced in Uganda is Theft and Violence and that is why he often outsources them to the neighbouring countries. KipenjiEdward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let record show that even under Iddi Amin, Uganda was ezporting power to Kenya. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: musamize To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Kenya to Export 30 Mw to Uganda (Is this supposed to be theother way round?) Kenya to Export 30 Mw to Uganda The East African (Nairobi) NEWSMarch 21, 2005 Posted to the web March 23, 2005 By Peter MunaitaNairobi PETER MUNAITA writes that Uganda will buy from the Kenya Power and Lighting Company (KPLC) between 20 and 30 Megawatts In a reversal of fortunes, Kenya, will export 30 megawatts of power to Uganda, once trials that started early last month are complete. Top officials of the Uganda transmission company said last week that negotiations for the imports were almost complete. Kenya has been importing power from Uganda since the commissioning of the Owen Falls dam in 1954. William Osanda, a technician, at the control room of Olkaria 1 Geothermo Station Picture: Anthony Kamau Uganda is expected to pay between $750,000 and $1 million per month for the supplies, the same amount Kenya has been paying. The supply is meant to ease load shedding during the off peak hours between 11 pm and 6 pm. Energy Minister Syda Bbumba said the Uganda Electricity Transmission Company (UETC) had formalised negotiations with the Kenya Power and Lighting Company (KPLC) to buy between 20 and 30 megawatts. Export of more power is also possible since KPLC is understood to have a surplus of 250 megawatts during off-peak hours. Uganda is facing a power shortage in excess of 130 megawatts during the peak hours between 6 pm and 11 pm. The government blames the shortage on a 2 metre fall in the water level at the Owen Falls dam in Jinja, 80 kilometres east of Kampala. The water level has been low since October last year due to poor rains. The peak demand is 347 megawatts against a supply of 220 megawatts. The operations and maintenance manager at UETC Engineering, William Kiryakiha, said that many customers had already benefited from the trials, whose outcome will inform the transmission of power from Kenya. "We are using the same pipes we used while exporting power to Kenya, so when we are satisfied with the trials, transmission will begin, probably in a few days," Mr Kiryakiha told The EastAfrican. Negotiations on the trial phase were completed on February 15 this year. Mrs Bbumba also said that UETC would commission a 50 megawatt thermal plant by May this year. "We are still in the procurement stage but the problem is being addressed," said Uganda's energy Permanent Secretary, Kabagambe Kaliisa. Alternative renewable energy sources, including garbage and sewage at the Kampala City Council's Kiteezi dumping site, were also being considered. Critics counter the official expla- nations for the shortage, saying the Uganda government ignored warnings against building a second dam next to the old one and warn that the country's power problems may escalate since the 50-year-old Nalubale Power Station needs to be closed for reconstruction. The power imports by Uganda coupled with KPLC's increasing profitability and the proposed public listing of the Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen) suggests that Kenya's power sector is coming out of the woods. Only four years ago, Kenya was grappling with a load shedding programme caused by a lengthy drought, a situation that was not helped by lack of investments in new production
[Ugnet] SLOW DEATH
Fellow netters: Under the NRM/ Museveni regime Uganda is dying a slow painful death. There is no difference with a cow fattened for slaughter. I do remember how oxen used to be castrated so that they could be used better for ploughing the field. We always ate the testacles and the ox went about it job of pulling the ploughs. When they were finally slaughtered, we ate some more of the same animals. The so call progress is but a fattening waiting for the final knife which the NRA/Museveni has now pulled out. If Uganda ox still has life, it had better kick the knife out of NRA's hand. And to ensure it does not come back, give it a hefty kick in the jaw. Onegi Check out this blog: http://ngomrom.blogspot.com ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] 'Museveni Wants Peace to Retire'
En Engoli fodi tiye kawake ku? Cengi gi KOLO Mendi..Ka Iming!! MK 'Museveni Wants Peace to Retire' You said it as if yu read my mind! Man dong ope ba! OJ Please note: message attached En Engoli fodi tiye kawake ku? Cengi gi KOLO Mendi..Ka Iming!! MK 'Museveni Wants Peace to Retire' Email This Page Print This Page VisitThePublisher'sSite The Monitor (Kampala) March 16, 2005 Posted to the web March 16, 2005 Hudson ApunyoLira The district Movement chairman, Mr Sam Engola, has said President Yoweri Museveni will retire after he has achieved total peace for the country. "Museveni wants to make sure that there is total peace in Uganda and then step down from power," Engola said. Engola was speaking on a talk show on Rhino FM on Saturday. He was hosted together with Apac woman MP, Ms Betty Amongi Ochwa. When Amongi asked Engola why Museveni had not achieved peace in the last 19 years, Engola said the opposition had been fighting him. Amongi dismissed Engola's claim that the opposition had hindered peace. She said Museveni and Joseph Kony were responsible for the insecurity in northern Uganda. She said Museveni wants to stay in power to continue to loot the wealth of the country. Relevant Links East Africa Legal and Judicial Affairs Uganda Peacekeeping and Conflict Resolution Amongi said peace talks should continue because they had made top LRA commanders to surrender making Kony weaker. Engola blamed Lango MPs for not presenting the problems of the people to the government. But Amongi said Lango MPs were the most respected in Parliament. Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Girls Talk
Uganda Weekly Observer, 23rd December 2004 Size does matter! Girls Recline At the Makerere University Guest House, the girls are lounging in the sofas in the lobby, where Joanna, 23, is scheduled to interview a former lecturer before the girls continue to Wandegeya. The lecturer arrives, goes to the restaurant with Joanna, leaving Elle, 25, Stella, 29 and Lorna, 27, waiting in the lobby. Joanna returns shortly after and the lecturer jumps into his car Joanna: He forgot a document he has to give me. He is collecting it from Lincoln flats Stella: Eh! But those bowed legs that even show through jeans! He must be quite endowed! Is he married? Giggles Joanna: You should know by now that size doesnt matter! Elle: Oh, dear, oh dear, here I was thinking that I was liberated and all, and can stand up and declare with a straight face that for me size does not matter as far as a mans penis goes! If I did that, I would be telling a big, fat lie. Lorna: But I hear that those big d**ks are weak. I dont really know how small ones feel. The small ones are for Chinese and Japanese so I dont expect our men here to be that small. Joanna: Lorna, please, stop calling it that! It sounds dirty. Just call it a penis. Ok? And leave the Orientals out of this. You dont have to rub it in. Stella: So Lorna you agree with Elle and I that at the end of the day, size does matter! Lorna: You know what, when I am in my Namboole, I want to feel the ball kick here and there. So medium, strong and sharp is good for me. (Namboole ist das Fußballstadion zwischen Jinja und Kampala, wo die Länderspiele stattfinden) Joanna: So Elle likes it big, you like it medium. I will take it anyway it comes as long as the presenter knows how to put it to good use. Elle: Count me out as far as that talk of size does not matter, but the way he uses what he has is concerned. Jeez, men with tiny ones really have a problem now that I talk about it. I want my man endowed. Stella: Depends on how you define endowed for me. I am sure if [a Kampala contractor] reputed to carry a tonne in his pants so much as winked my way, I would take off faster than Akii Bua! (Akii Bua ist der berühmteste ugandische Kurzstreckenläufer, er hat eine Goldmedaiille im 200 m Lauf bei den olympischen Spielen in München geholt) Lorna: I have heard about him too, hahahaha I hear that big d**ks cant go through without being supported. And I imagine you may not enjoy kissing it... Joanna: Aha! Elle what if you get a really big one and he splits you up? You spend the whole time pleading that he stops. That is not making love; it is called torture. Elle: I, Elle cannot deal with little ones, so help me God. Medium-sized, uh maybe, but big is fine. I need the real thing, not a cocktail cucumber. You know those cucumbers they cut into tiny bits at cocktail parties that you dip in sauce and chew at? Joanna: Even those cocktail cucumbers; with the right sauce, they are delectable. And I have heard tales about how arrogant the endowed guys are; that they lie back and hope the size works the magic. Stella: Eh! Youre really on the defensive here Joanna: No, I just dont see how I can pass up on a nice guy with husband material just because his gizmo is petite. And dont bring up Danny. I dont kiss and tell. Elle: Anyway, I am not a charity case and will not take what other women will not have. He either has something I can see, touch and feel, or he takes his cigarette elsewhere it can be accommodated. I am not one for small boys. Stella: Bannange Elle ! Your ka-driver could be eavesdropping. Elle: Good. Just as well he knows the stakes in case he starts getting ideas.One of these days I should give Stella a reason not to call me ka again! At least now I know what boss harbours under all those Agbada outfits from his home in Lagos! Here comes the lecturer with the documents now ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Lugnda Vs Kiswahili, make your national language choice
Luganda Vs Kiswahili; make your national language choice By Bamuturaki Musinguzi Dec 26 - Jan 2, 2004 As Parliament starts debating the White Paper, one other proposal, beyond the one on presidential term limits, is likely to excite much debate and emotion. Its the proposal on national language. Although the authorities appear determined to adopt Swahili, which would put Uganda in line with key neighbours Kenya and Tanzania, the issue of a national language remains a sticking point. The question of official and national language started during British colonial rule and 42 years of independence have not resolved it. The debate has mainly featured Swahili and Luganda, or put differently, Swahili versus Luganda. Failure to settle for one or the other has given English an upper hand. On several occasions attempts have been made to forge a common language, which would serve as a national language, only to be sacrificed at the altar of political expediency. Dr Ruth Mukama, a linguist at Makerere University, attributes it to tribalism and linguistic prejudice. We may now ask ourselves whether, in fact, there is any likelihood that any one language will ever rise to be truly the national language of Uganda, Mukama writes in her paper, Ugandas Quest for a National Language. Some history Some language analysts have listed factors that favour the adoption of Swahili for a national. Swahili was first introduced into Uganda as the language of religion and trade in the second half of the 19th century. Later on it featured prominently as the lingua franca (common language) among the multi-racial builders of the Kenya-Uganda railway. In the period 1900 to 1912 Swahili was the official local language. Until 1952, it was one of the recognised vernaculars in Ugandan schools and was the official language of the armed forces. The colonialists found Swahili a well-established language in the different kingdoms and chiefdoms in East Africa in terms of trade and communication. By 1879 even prayers were conducted in Swahili. However, the British colonisers depended greatly on Baganda agents to administer other parts of the country leading to the imposition of Luganda on the then Eastern Province and Ankole. When Bishop Tucker arrived on the scene in 1891, he ordered the translation of the Bible into Luganda. Luganda had powerful protagonists in the Christian Missionary Society (CMS) mission and that is how it came to be the first indigenous language to be written both for literacy and religious purposes. And when it came to the need to link the political and ecclesiastical arenas in the country the CMS mission was solidly in support of Luganda as the language that would be appropriate for the unification of the country. The CMS mission considered the employment of a single language to be the best method of unifying the Church and integrating the various parts of the protectorate. And its longer-term aim was to promote Luganda as the primary language of the protectorate, H.B. Hansen writes in Mission, Church and State in a Colonial Setting: Uganda 1890-1925. The mission exerted maximum efforts to promote Luganda and succeeded in having it replace Swahili as the official language of the protectorate from 1912 to around 1924. Hansen argues that the rise of anti-Luganda feelings in the western kingdoms and in the Northern Province, which led to significant concessions being made to recognise other indigenous languages, prevented the proponents of Luganda from realising their goal. The result was that the mission was split into two contending groups: those opposed to making any concessions to sub-nationalist demands as that would mean the virtual abandonment of the policy of making Luganda the primary language in the protectorate; and the others who realised that the strong feelings against Buganda dominance could not be disregarded and that a policy of integration based on Ganda hegemony was no longer tenable. Writes Hansen: Neither side could win its case under the prevailing circumstances, in the longer term; however, English was available as a possible way out of the stalemate. In any event, the Bible was translated into other local languages, starting with Runyoro and the languages were also used as the medium of instruction. The widespread preference for individual vernaculars, combined with opposition to the spread of Ganda influence through Luganda, was one of the major contributing factors to the failure of making Luganda a universal language of the Protectorate. According to Hansen, the persisting Swahili/Luganda controversy has been a hindrance to Luganda gaining the status of universal language. While the mission was torn between Luganda and the various vernaculars, it was largely united in opposition to Swahili. Although it was ousted from the official status in 1912, [Swahili] had already imprinted its mark in the country and loaned to the indigenous languages a big assortment of
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