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Vukoni, you are spot on and thanks. Gook The strategy of the guerilla struggle was to cause maximum chaos and destruction in order to render the government of the day very unpopular Lt. Gen. Kaguta Museveni (Leader of the NRA guerilla army inLuwero) Original Message Follows From: Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:58:37 -0600 Spot on, my ass! From the offensive title he's slapped on his book, to the jumbled contents of his bombastic address, Dr. Chika Onyeani exudes a symptom that afflicts far too many conservative Black public intellectuals. They imagine they have stumbled upon extraordinary and unspeakable truths with which they will at last save the race -- by plucking the courage to shout aloud those same explosive truths that others are too chicken to even whisper. If only they were halfway true! There are perhaps only two truths Dr. Onyeani can lay claim to -- none of them really original. One, that we cannot expect our salvation to come from White folk; and two, that his bright ideas have long been the staple of White supremaci st folklore and literature. David Duke, David Horowitz, Rush Limbaugh, and their less bare-fanged brethren in right-wing think tanks and academia have been telling us to move on since "Forty Acres and a Mule" and a thousand other promises were made and broken. The only thing faintly original Dr. Onyeani accomplished rather well was to spruce those ideas up with self-critical analyses and progressive-sounding self-help slogans -- that have been on Black streets for at least half a century -- and to pass them off as his very own. E.g. slogans such as "buy black" were coined by African activists long before Onyeani could write his own name -- let alone a book that is totally unnecessary. Slavery, colonialism, and racism may well have changed their hues like the wily chameleon a zillion proverbial times, but imperialism is an ongoing project (five hundred years and counting) -- inherited, updated, proudly and loudly re-launched, and implemented from Washington to Whitehall. Ask the hapless victims of the American Project for the New Century in Baghdad, Cochabamba, Gaza, and Putumayo if this is just a Black problem we are facing. Also, to ignore the cancerously rabid effects of racism, colonialism, and slavery on Black life isn't only as terrible as using them to make sorry excuses for the excesses of our avaricious, inept, and vicious dictators. It is to miss half the diagnosis of the disease. I wouldn't entrust my life in the hands of a doctor who blatantly ignores the case history of such a disease, prescribes placebos, and is pompously as clueless and vapid as Onyeani. v At 12:02 PM 2/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: I think Dr. Chika Onyeani is spot on. It's time Africans woke up to the real world and it is even more refreshing that an African is courageous enough to step up to the plate and say it as it is. Most of our leaders, for too long have been hiding behind thr ee -isms; Racism, Colonialism, and Slavery, while conveniently refusing to accept responsibility for there own failures. As Dr. Onyeani points out, corruption and mis-rule have nothing to do with colonialism, racism, and slavery. I give full Kudos to Dr. Onyeani, we need more Africans like him. From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],victoria_supe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:08:14 + message3.txt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusGR, me I find this article troubling. I think it is stupid. What do you think? Mitayo Potosi From: "gook makanga" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],informatio [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:20:27 + -- The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.
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There is a big difference between acknowledging that someone offended youand adopting principles, philosophies, policies and strategies to ensure that it never happens again as against to sitting on your lurrels and blaming your own personal failures on past wrongs. That is basically the point Dr. Onyeani was making. If you read his presentation keenly, you may have noticed that he started out by outlining his background, basically saying even though i am from way down here, i am right up here now. If effectiveness of political idealogy and/or philosphy could be measured by results, it is evidently clear, Dr. Onyeani argue's that our politics has not worked. Yes they may have served us once upon in a time when we were in physical bondage but not any longer. The standard victim syndrome politics played by most mainstream black/african politians is begin to ware thin, mean while as we waste our time and energy portraying ourselves as victims, the evil conservatives are laughing all the way to the bank at our expense. The asians have realised this and are now begin to beat the europeans at there own game. The question is when will the scales fall out of the eyes of africans, Dr. Onyeani is arguing. In short rhetoric without substance is like an empty tin making the most noise. Yes the europeans hear and see our pain in some cases they shed some crocodile tears with us and then drop some coins in our beggin plate and then say sorry, if you are satisfied with that, Dr. Onyeani is saying, he is not and i agree with him. What makes it worse is the disingenous way our leaders use the victim syndrom politics, again as Dr. Onyeani points out, they stab us in the back with one hand and then pat us on the head with the other, telling us how evil the europeans are and Dr. Onyeani gives the examples of Abacha in Nigerian and Mubutu in the Congo to name but a few. So, again i think he is spot on. Mr. Vukoni as usual, like most in your camp, you are quick to layout the problem but very short on answers and i don't think that is a prudent and realistic position for africa to be in. Africa is in desperate need of answers, everybody knows the problems, we all know about slavery, colonialism and racism and there legacies, however pragmatic solutions will do us more good. From: Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:54:15 -0600 No my friend, I do not imply that the conservative ideology is confined to Caucasians. I'd be foolish to make such a conclusion when men like you and Dr. Onyeani helpfully remind us that you are out of the woodworks. The main point of my submission is that there is really nothing new that Dr Onyeani is saying. He has merely repackaged the same old drivel ricocheting through the right-wing echo chambers on the Internet and elsewhere. In my pooh-poohing of Onyeani's puffery, I do not suggest in any way that we can beg our way out of the many crises we face. On the contrary, I very much believe that we need to seize the initiative in seeking solutions to our problems. But we can offer the best solutions only by examining the full range of factors that are responsible for the stagnation and decay that characterize the African condition, including but not limited to the debilitating effects of racism, colonialism, and slavery. Recognizing these factors doesn't mean that we wallow in victimhood. It merely means that we will be in a better position to identify our real friends and foes and to tell bullshit from genuine gems of wisdom. And now my friend, for concrete action, how about starting closer to home. Let's cut to the chase and denounce one of Africa's most authoritarian, corrupt, mendicant, and aid-guzzling governments. In case you missed it, I mean your beloved NRM. vukoni --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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Bwana Musaazi, It is well and good for every successful Black man or woman to point out that even though i am from way down here, i am right up here now, but let's remember that personal anecdotes can never substitute for global/overarching strategies that recognize and learn the lessons of history. Louis Farrakhan put it so succinctly in a recent interview on PBS with Tavis Smiley when he said: You are successful, maybe I'm successful, others are successful; but we've got nearly 40 million people in America that are still suffering and falling further and further behind. And those that have done well have not pooled their resources to help the masses come out of the condition that the masses are in. So we don't want the middle class, the successful ones, to be used as a mannequin in the store of democracy to sell to the masses of black people that we can achieve just like you have achieved, when in reality the ignorance--the pervasive ignorance--and the racism that exists in America will allow a few to escape, but the masses are caught in the fisherman's net. Another of those mannequins used to sell us short is exactly what Dr. Onyeani is espousing: that there is no need to fix the system because it ain't broken -- that the fault is 100% our lack of initiative and failure to work the system to our advantage; like those smart Asians. About two years ago, The New York Times did a wonderful series on How Race Is Lived in America. That series, now published in book form confirms something that more cold-eyed sociologists, economists, activists, and studies have been saying for donkeys years -- that the systemic odds are stacked the highest against Black people. Many times, quite deliberately, immigration policies and institutional racism are deployed to give non-Black immigrants a leg up over Black people. This partly explains the paradox of non-Black immigrants from outside of Europe seeming to do much better than African Americans. For example, until 9/11, South Asians (including Dr. Onyeani's wonderful Indian mannequins) were increasingly officially classified as White people. What does that have to do with the African/Black condition? In a country and a world where race still matters a great deal, and a White (or honorary White) status translates into privilege and opportunity we would do well to factor apartheid in any strategies we devise to deal with our condition. On the global stage, especially Black people would do well to listen to what mainstream intellectuals like Paul Krugman and former World Bank chief economist Joseph Stiglitz are saying about how the system is rigged against the poorest of nations. In other words, never do as the World Bank/IMF and conservative shills out there tell you. Custom-design your own solutions and policies because White supremacist institutions and White folk will never act in our own best interest. On this last point, even Dr. Onyeani and I seem to agree. But there are major problems I have with his approach. I'll mention just three: 1. He wants us to forget history in our calculus and to pretend that suddenly racism, colonialism, and slavery do not matter. 2. He demands that we ignore that Mobutu and Abacha were, like most of our bankrupt leaders, creatures of this wonderful system that we are supposed to work to our advantage. 3. Rather than build on the achievements of the civil rights and anti-colonial movements, he wants us to dismiss offhand the entire leadership and strategies of an era, whose sacrifices have opened many doors for all non-White peoples. Finally, on a personal note, I do not play victim syndrome politics. There is something better that I do every waking day of my life. If you think that the pragmatic solutions [that] will do us more good involves Black public intellectuals running around calling themselves Nigger (Nigga) capitalists, we really don't have any basis for meaningful conversation on how best we can solve the crises confronting us. vukoni PS. To you all who are enraged and turned off by Black intellectual shock-jocks who adopt the disrespectful vocabulary of racists to draw attention to themselves and their own version of Horatio Alger stories, there is a great parable that occurred to me last night as I thought about Dr. Onyeani's address. When I get the time to write it down, I'll post it here. For those who do not know who Horatio Alger is, there is a clue in Dr. Krugman's article that I'm posting next. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 2/20/2004
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I think Dr. Chika Onyeani is spot on. It's time Africans woke up to the real world and it is even more refreshing that an African is courageous enough to step up to the plate and say it as it is. Most of our leaders, for too long have been hiding behind three -isms; Racism, Colonialism, and Slavery, while conveniently refusing to accept responsibility for there own failures. As Dr. Onyeani points out, corruption and mis-rule have nothing to do with colonialism, racism, and slavery. I give full Kudos to Dr. Onyeani, we need more Africans like him. From: Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:08:14 + message3.txt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus GR, meI find this article troubling. I think it is stupid. What do you think?Mitayo Potosi From: "gook makanga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:20:27 + The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*
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"IF YOU ARE A FOOL YOU SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO SLAVERY . I support the arabs for taking you black people into slavery. ... and I cannot blame the whiteman for slavery "Yoweri Museveni in an interview with the Atlanta Monthy Journal. Matek In a message dated 2/21/2004 12:09:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Dr. Chika Onyeani is spot on. It's time Africans woke up to the real world and it is even more refreshing that an African is courageous enough to step up to the plate and say it as it is. Most of our leaders, for too long have been hiding behind three -isms; Racism, Colonialism, and Slavery, while conveniently refusing to accept responsibility for there own failures. As Dr. Onyeani points out, corruption and mis-rule have nothing to do with colonialism, racism, and slavery. I give full Kudos to Dr. Onyeani, we need more Africans like him. n be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." - Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister
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Spot on, my ass! From the offensive title he's slapped on his book, to the jumbled contents of his bombastic address, Dr. Chika Onyeani exudes a symptom that afflicts far too many conservative Black public intellectuals. They imagine they have stumbled upon extraordinary and unspeakable truths with which they will at last save the race -- by plucking the courage to shout aloud those same explosive truths that others are too chicken to even whisper. If only they were halfway true! There are perhaps only two truths Dr. Onyeani can lay claim to -- none of them really original. One, that we cannot expect our salvation to come from White folk; and two, that his bright ideas have long been the staple of White supremacist folklore and literature. David Duke, David Horowitz, Rush Limbaugh, and their less bare-fanged brethren in right-wing think tanks and academia have been telling us to move on since Forty Acres and a Mule and a thousand other promises were made and broken. The only thing faintly original Dr. Onyeani accomplished rather well was to spruce those ideas up with self-critical analyses and progressive-sounding self-help slogans -- that have been on Black streets for at least half a century -- and to pass them off as his very own. E.g. slogans such as buy black were coined by African activists long before Onyeani could write his own name -- let alone a book that is totally unnecessary. Slavery, colonialism, and racism may well have changed their hues like the wily chameleon a zillion proverbial times, but imperialism is an ongoing project (five hundred years and counting) -- inherited, updated, proudly and loudly re-launched, and implemented from Washington to Whitehall. Ask the hapless victims of the American Project for the New Century in Baghdad, Cochabamba, Gaza, and Putumayo if this is just a Black problem we are facing. Also, to ignore the cancerously rabid effects of racism, colonialism, and slavery on Black life isn't only as terrible as using them to make sorry excuses for the excesses of our avaricious, inept, and vicious dictators. It is to miss half the diagnosis of the disease. I wouldn't entrust my life in the hands of a doctor who blatantly ignores the case history of such a disease, prescribes placebos, and is pompously as clueless and vapid as Onyeani. v At 12:02 PM 2/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: I think Dr. Chika Onyeani is spot on. It's time Africans woke up to the real world and it is even more refreshing that an African is courageous enough to step up to the plate and say it as it is. Most of our leaders, for too long have been hiding behind three -isms; Racism, Colonialism, and Slavery, while conveniently refusing to accept responsibility for there own failures. As Dr. Onyeani points out, corruption and mis-rule have nothing to do with colonialism, racism, and slavery. I give full Kudos to Dr. Onyeani, we need more Africans like him. From: Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:08:14 + message3.txt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus GR, me I find this article troubling. I think it is stupid. What do you think? Mitayo Potosi From: gook makanga Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:20:27 + -- The new http://g.msn.com/8HMAENCA/2737??PS=MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003
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You seem to be implying that the conservative ideology is a whites only philosophy and in so doing you completely miss Dr. Onyeani's argument. Basically what Dr. Onyeani is saying is, what's good for the goose should also be good for the gender, in other words if europeans have been able to exploit conservative philosophys to achieve economic and political superiority (at all cost) then why should africans not do like wise or are saying that the only route for africans to obtain economic and political power is through begging and appealing for aid. In other words you seem to be resigned to the status quo of hinging africa's feature progress to the good will of the richer europeans and now asians and what Dr. Onyeani is essentially saying is that position has not gotten africans anywhere in other words been there done that, it's time for a change. Again Kudos to Dr. Onyeani for having the guts to probably say what is apparently not popular in african/black politics but what is the truth. As they say the truth shall set you free. From: Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:58:37 -0600 Spot on, my ass! From the offensive title he's slapped on his book, to the jumbled contents of his bombastic address, Dr. Chika Onyeani exudes a symptom that afflicts far too many conservative Black public intellectuals. They imagine they have stumbled upon extraordinary and unspeakable truths with which they will at last save the race -- by plucking the courage to shout aloud those same explosive truths that others are too chicken to even whisper. If only they were halfway true! There are perhaps only two truths Dr. Onyeani can lay claim to -- none of them really original. One, that we cannot expect our salvation to come from White folk; and two, that his bright ideas have long been the staple of White supremacist folklore and literature. David Duke, David Horowitz, Rush Limbaugh, and their less bare-fanged brethren in right-wing think tanks and academia have been telling us to move on since Forty Acres and a Mule and a thousand other promises were made and broken. The only thing faintly original Dr. Onyeani accomplished rather well was to spruce those ideas up with self-critical analyses and progressive-sounding self-help slogans -- that have been on Black streets for at least half a century -- and to pass them off as his very own. E.g. slogans such as buy black were coined by African activists long before Onyeani could write his own name -- let alone a book that is totally unnecessary. Slavery, colonialism, and racism may well have changed their hues like the wily chameleon a zillion proverbial times, but imperialism is an ongoing project (five hundred years and counting) -- inherited, updated, proudly and loudly re-launched, and implemented from Washington to Whitehall. Ask the hapless victims of the American Project for the New Century in Baghdad, Cochabamba, Gaza, and Putumayo if this is just a Black problem we are facing. Also, to ignore the cancerously rabid effects of racism, colonialism, and slavery on Black life isn't only as terrible as using them to make sorry excuses for the excesses of our avaricious, inept, and vicious dictators. It is to miss half the diagnosis of the disease. I wouldn't entrust my life in the hands of a doctor who blatantly ignores the case history of such a disease, prescribes placebos, and is pompously as clueless and vapid as Onyeani. v At 12:02 PM 2/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: I think Dr. Chika Onyeani is spot on. It's time Africans woke up to the real world and it is even more refreshing that an African is courageous enough to step up to the plate and say it as it is. Most of our leaders, for too long have been hiding behind three -isms; Racism, Colonialism, and Slavery, while conveniently refusing to accept responsibility for there own failures. As Dr. Onyeani points out, corruption and mis-rule have nothing to do with colonialism, racism, and slavery. I give full Kudos to Dr. Onyeani, we need more Africans like him. From: Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:08:14 + message3.txt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus GR, me I find this article troubling. I think it is stupid. What do
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No my friend, I do not imply that the conservative ideology is confined to Caucasians. I'd be foolish to make such a conclusion when men like you and Dr. Onyeani helpfully remind us that you are out of the woodworks. The main point of my submission is that there is really nothing new that Dr Onyeani is saying. He has merely repackaged the same old drivel ricocheting through the right-wing echo chambers on the Internet and elsewhere. In my pooh-poohing of Onyeani's puffery, I do not suggest in any way that we can beg our way out of the many crises we face. On the contrary, I very much believe that we need to seize the initiative in seeking solutions to our problems. But we can offer the best solutions only by examining the full range of factors that are responsible for the stagnation and decay that characterize the African condition, including but not limited to the debilitating effects of racism, colonialism, and slavery. Recognizing these factors doesn't mean that we wallow in victimhood. It merely means that we will be in a better position to identify our real friends and foes and to tell bullshit from genuine gems of wisdom. And now my friend, for concrete action, how about starting closer to home. Let's cut to the chase and denounce one of Africa's most authoritarian, corrupt, mendicant, and aid-guzzling governments. In case you missed it, I mean your beloved NRM. vukoni --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003
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GR, meI find this article troubling. I think it is stupid. What do you think?Mitayo Potosi From: "gook makanga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:20:27 + The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* ---BeginMessage--- AFRICAN ECONOMIC WEB DOCTRINE KEYNOTE SPEECH BY DR. CHIKA A. ONYEANI AT THE MORGAN STATE UNIVERSITY'S BILL OF RIGHTS/TRANSAFRICA CONVOCATION. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 7, 2000. 11:00 A.M. CARL MURPHY FINE ARTS AUDITORIUM TOPIC: TRUTH, HONESTY AND FRANKNESS Good morning. President Earl Richardson, Distinguished ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters. I feel especially honored to be here today, in this great institution. I must thank Dean Hollis, for inviting me to come here today. In fact, the last time I was in Baltimore was at the Mid-Atlantic Writers Association conference, and I had been invited by Prof. Grace Coffey to speak about my book. My African sister, Yahne Sangarey, a member of the African Sun Times staff as well as Curator, the African Museum in Baltimore here, had arranged for me to participate in the "Global African Writers: The Ties that Bind" of the United Nations African Project. The book was well received, and when Dean Hollis offered to bring me here to speak with you, I wasn't sure that his colleagues would I have the courage to agree with his selection of an author of such a controversial book and viewpoint. The fact that I am here today is a testimony to the courage and progressive thinking of the members of this institution. I thank you all and especially Dean Hollis for his bold initiative. A lot of times when most of us present our polished resume, we forget to mention the humble environment where we come from. Of course, I am no exception. But I would be remiss if I didn't tell you a Little bit about myself other than what is in my resume I come from Ohafia, a warrior group of the Igbo national group in Nigeria. It is in a very remote area of the country. When I was growing up, we attended School in make shift mud and hut houses. Then, as it is still now today, we didn't have running water, and now the electricity we have today hardly works one day in a month. For most of us, books were a luxury, but when we got hold of one, we made sure that we knew what was in it to pass our exams and move to the next class. In fact, I am exceptionally lucky because I was one of those who hardly had books, even exercise books, what you call notebooks here, not due to my parents not providing the money for them, but due to my u ncle's partiality to my cousin who started school with me. Needless to say my cousin was three classes behind me when we finished, and even then I had set a goal of becoming somebody. I gave you that very short resume just to say that no matter wherever you come from or from whatever circumstances, you can achieve whatever goal you set your mind on. And looking at you all, I know you are all very special and goal oriented, otherwise you would not be sitting where you are now. Thousands of others have abandoned their goals even before they started. I applaud you all. My topic today is the Black Race - it is not about Africans from the continent, or Africans in the Diaspora, or African West Indians, but about the Black Race. My discussion is about truth, it is about honesty and frankness. It is about no more lies, no more hiding the truth, and no more blaming others for what is happening to the Black Race. It is about accepting responsibility for our actions; it is about playing the same games that others are playing and becoming very successful. It is about being intelligent on how we make decisions where to spend our hard earned money. It is about no more playing the blame game, and the victim-mentality game. In this 21st century, we have to accept the truth of our situation, and nothing but the truth, so help us God. There is nobody more qualified to debate the state of the Black Race versus others, other than you and I. We cannot, as usual, in our lackadaisical manner abandon this debate to others with better access to the media. In Africa, we have a saying that when a child grows up, and he is able to wash his hands, he should sit at the same table and eat with his elders. The Black Race has grown up, we have washed our hands, but the question is why are we not sitting at the same table to eat with our elders, in this case, why are we not sitting at the same table with other races to eat from the same table, why are we still eating from the floor? Again, we have
