Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-22 Thread Martin Hepworth
Easynet announced this recently.. http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/05/uk-isp-easynet-launch-business-320mbps-bonded-fttc-broadband.html?utm_content=buffer25dd8&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer -- Martin Hepworth, CISSP Oxford, UK On 11 May 2013 15:02, Paul Mans

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-15 Thread Robin Williams
On 14/05/13 23:47, Brandon Butterworth wrote: I see a lot of operators are already selling FTTC as "uncontended" I've only noticed unlimited. Googling FTTC and uncontended definitely yields results! Can FTTC really be claimed as uncontended when People stopped implementing a specific cotn

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I see a lot of operators are already selling FTTC > as "uncontended" I've only noticed unlimited. > Can FTTC really be claimed as uncontended when People stopped implementing a specific cotnention long ago and at BTs backhaul rates why would they contend you, there's money to be made on letti

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Robin Williams
As a side note to this discussion (and vaguely related to FTTC as a replacement for EFM), I see a lot of operators are already selling FTTC as "uncontended". Can FTTC really be claimed as uncontended when operators have zero control or monitoring of the fibre circuit from the exchange to the

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Charlie Boisseau
We only use FireBricks, and I have no idea on cisco boxes - don't have any :-) I didn't expect anything less! Presumably you could make an LAG on two ports, and have those cabled to ports that are each untagged on a VLAN that then routes through to the FTTC lines at the far end. That should work,

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 14/05/13 08:20, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > Adrian, > > Is that with the magic help of a Firebrick, or would it be possible with > a Cisco or Juniper device? I've done a bit of googling and it would > seem there's little if any material on how to do it. As far as I can > tell LAGs are only poss

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 14/05/13 08:20, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > Adrian, > > Is that with the magic help of a Firebrick, or would it be possible with > a Cisco or Juniper device? I've done a bit of googling and it would > seem there's little if any material on how to do it. As far as I can > tell LAGs are only poss

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Charlie Boisseau
Adrian, Is that with the magic help of a Firebrick, or would it be possible with a Cisco or Juniper device? I've done a bit of googling and it would seem there's little if any material on how to do it. As far as I can tell LAGs are only possible on a per-port basis (at least on Cisco switches

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-13 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 2013-05-13 18:02, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > > This sounds really mucky; but has anyone thought of EVC bonding? > Something like a LAG but with VLANs instead of physical ports. This > could supersede the likes of EFM if done right. We have FTTC Etherways, but not sure I have any bonded yet,

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-13 Thread Charlie Boisseau
I wonder if there's a way to do it at the Ethernet level (when buying GEA instead of via WBC/L2TP)? Openreach handoff raw FTTx circuits to us as a VLAN on an interconnect in each exchange, and we get similar delivery on our interconnects with BTWholesale and TalkTalk for accessing exchanges we

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-11 Thread Ben King
We will offering it at a DSLAM level on all of our SLU cabinets shortly. Sent from my iPhone On 11 May 2013, at 22:05, Paul Mansfield wrote: > are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding? > > I would guess that if they can already do it with ADSL/ADSL2+ then it > must be possible

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-11 Thread Edward Dore
I believe Goscomb (http://www.goscomb.net/connectivity/broadband/fttc) will do ML-PPP on their FTTC lines. Edward Dore Freethought Internet On 11 May 2013, at 15:02, Paul Mansfield wrote: > are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding? > > I would guess that if they can already

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-11 Thread Chris Wilson
On Sat, 11 May 2013, Paul Mansfield wrote: are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding? I would guess that if they can already do it with ADSL/ADSL2+ then it must be possible with FTTC? I think plenty do it - AAISP, ADSL24, Goscomb etc etc Thread from a while back: http://for

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-11 Thread Simon Green
Pretty sure Andrews & Arnold offer it on all their offerings. http://www.aa.net.uk/ On 11 May 2013, at 15:09, "Paul Mansfield" mailto:paul+uk...@mansfield.co.uk>> wrote: are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding? I would guess that if they can already do it with ADSL/ADSL2+ then

[uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-11 Thread Paul Mansfield
are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding? I would guess that if they can already do it with ADSL/ADSL2+ then it must be possible with FTTC?