Re[2]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Serge Nesterovitch
Hello Doug, Monday, March 04, 2002, 3:07:44 AM, you wrote: DE In the Hebrew calendar, only Shabbat (Saturday) has a name; the rest of DE the days are numbered. In Russian and Portuguese, most of the day names DE are numeric. It's wrong information. In Russian NO one days of week name is

Re: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Ben Monroe
From: Shigemichi Yazawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] ろ ろ〇〇〇 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Month names. Month names. Who needs month names, anyway? Do we name the hours of the day? Do we name the days *within* each month? Tell the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans that THEY need month names. Japan has (or

Re[2]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Serge Nesterovitch
Hello Doug, Monday, March 04, 2002, 3:07:44 AM, you wrote: DE In the Hebrew calendar, only Shabbat (Saturday) has a name; the rest of DE the days are numbered. In Russian and Portuguese, most of the day names DE are numeric. It's wrong information. In Russian NO one days of week name is

Re[3]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Serge Nesterovitch
SN but vtornik =/= vtoroi SN chetverg =/= chetveryi misspelling :( I mean chetverg =/= chetvertyi SN pyatnitsa =/= pyatyi SN Using numbers of a days where names must be used is impossible. SN And when somebody trying to use day _numbers_ he must remember, that SN not in all cultures week begins

Re: Re[2]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Doug Ewell
Здравствуйте Сергей, Serge Nesterovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DE In the Hebrew calendar, only Shabbat (Saturday) has a name; the rest of DE the days are numbered. In Russian and Portuguese, most of the day names DE are numeric. It's wrong information. In Russian NO one days of week

RE: Re[2]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Дауг Еуэль wrote: The word numeric was intended to convey that some day names are based on numbers instead of, say, Norse gods The Russian derivation of certain day names from numbers is not nearly as transparent as the Portuguese segunda-feira Perhaps I should have made that distinction

[OT] Automatic vowelizers?

2002-03-04 Thread Marco Cimarosti
I read the following question on a local NG: Does is exist software which automatically adds vowel marks to Arabic and Hebrew text? I realize that such a thing would be very complex, and probably requires dictionary look-up and some degree of understanding of the grammatical context. Yet, it

Re: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works

2002-03-04 Thread Otto Stolz
I had written: When I enter 17,00 DM I do not want to read 17,00 €, the other day Lars Kristan wrote: I know that values haven't changed O yes, they have: 17,00 € = 33,25 DM, i e much more than 17,00 DM Lars Kristan wrote: My point was - if you would change your system (user) settings

Re: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread Michael Everson
At 20:39 -0800 2002-03-03, Dan Wood wrote: Hi, I'm not finding hints of this in any of the FAQ or where's my character docs I'm trying to create (or find) the oo pair with a combining macron (0304) and combining breve (0306) over the pair of them together, as in these images:

RE: [OT] Automatic vowelizers?

2002-03-04 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
There is Nakdan, http://www.cet.ac.il/home/nakdan.htm Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marco Cimarosti Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Automatic vowelizers? I

RE: Re[2]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
In Hebrew the names of the days of the week are ordinals for Sunday (first) to Friday (sixth). European umbers are not used, but Hebrew (Alef to Vav) are. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Serge Nesterovitch Sent: Monday, March

Re: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread John Cowan
$B$m!;!;!;!;(B $B$m!;!;!;(B wrote: This would be a most useful Unicode character for producers of English dictionaries, though I personally would rather they all go the IPA route. (By the way, is that "route" pronounced as "root" or as "rout"? I use the latter for "... go that route",

[OT] Broken monetary settings (was RE: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works)

2002-03-04 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Otto Stolz wrote: [] No, I simply wish that they had based their design on correct sup- positions A real-world value (physical, monetary, or whatever) is not a mere number, but rather the product of a number and a unit of measurement Changing the unit while keeping the number will affect the

Re: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread John Cowan
Michael Everson wrote: At 20:39 -0800 2002-03-03, Dan Wood wrote: Hi, I'm not finding hints of this in any of the FAQ or where's my character docs I'm trying to create (or find) the oo pair with a combining macron (0304) and combining breve (0306) over the pair of them together,

RE: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread Kent Karlsson
-Original Message- From: Michael Everson ... At 20:39 -0800 2002-03-03, Dan Wood wrote: Hi, I'm not finding hints of this in any of the FAQ or where's my character docs I'm trying to create (or find) the oo pair with a combining macron (0304) and combining breve (0306)

RE: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-04 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
Message being forwarded to the Locales group... -Original Message- From: Doug Ewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:55 PM To: Keld Jørn Simonsen Cc: Jungshik Shin; Marco Cimarosti; 'Michael Everson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Starner Subject: Re:

RE: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread Michael Everson
At 15:19 +0100 2002-04-03, Kent Karlsson wrote: -Original Message- From: Michael Everson At 20:39 -0800 2002-03-03, Dan Wood wrote: Hi, I'm not finding hints of this in any of the FAQ or where's my character docs I'm trying to create (or find) the oo pair with a

[OT] Re: Month names

2002-03-04 Thread Doug Ewell
And when somebody (from Japan, Korea, China, etc) trying to use month numbers - he must understand, that traditional calendar system in this countries are _different_. What months you will try to number and from what you will start? This is an inherent hazard of using an all-numeric system.

Re: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread Doug Ewell
John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition, U+0305 COMBINING OVERLINEs (as distinct from U+0304) have to join left and right, so o+combining overline+o+combining overline will produce the correct appearances with pre-3.2 implementations. Examining the GIF, it looks more like an overline

unicode in a web based application

2002-03-04 Thread James Griffiths
First of all, please forgive me if this message lacks clarity, I am struggling to express my question correctly I am developing a multi-lingual web application, using cold fusion, an apache web server, and sql server 7 The languages used are english, french, german, spanish, italian, polish,

RE: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread Kent Karlsson
... The problem here is that the COMBINING GRAPHEME JOINER only affects *enclosing* combining marks (and combining marks *following* an enclosing one). I do not know what you mean by this. The CGJ makes what it is joining into a single entity. So if you add a diacritic to it, it should

Re: [OT] Automatic vowelizers?

2002-03-04 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
Hallo Marco, Vowelizers for Arabic: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~zaiane/htmldocs/dea.html http://www.unesco.org/comnat/france/ali.htm (old) http://users.kfupm.edu.sa/ICS/muhtaseb/Kacst/project_design/vowelization.htm (unclear, whether they actually realized it) Try Google for further results.

RE: [OT] Broken monetary settings (was RE: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works)

2002-03-04 Thread John McConnell
Marco Cimarosti wrote: There are two wrong design assumption in the monetary settings: 1) The number of decimals should not be part of the locale at all The fact that US dollars need two decimals does not depend on local convention of any country, but on the fact that there are coins as

Re: Theban alphabet?

2002-03-04 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Curtis Clark said: At 12:27 AM 3/1/02, Philipp Reichmuth wrote: humor How about a glyph variant of U+2721? ;-) /humor U+2721 U+FE00 U+20DD, perhaps? ^ Not to be overly pedantic on a humorous thread, but Combinations involving the variation selector-1 are undefined unless

Re: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Michael Everson wrote: At 20:39 -0800 2002-03-03, Dan Wood wrote: Hi, I'm not finding hints of this in any of the FAQ or where's my character docs I'm trying to create (or find) the oo pair with a combining macron (0304) and combining breve (0306)

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Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers

2002-03-04 Thread Barry Caplan
At 01:16 PM 3/1/2002 -0500, John Cowan wrote: What about the 100 house numbers per block convention? This does not hold in the older parts of older US cities (New York does not obey it south of 8th St or so), but is quite general in the US as a whole It holds for the whole of Baltimore and

Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers

2002-03-04 Thread John Cowan
Barry Caplan wrote: Doesn't every address that USPS delivers to have a unique 9 digit zip code, making house numbers a legacy? In fact no. As a trivial counterexample, P.O. Box Numbers become ZIP+4 codes by adding the 5-digit ZIP code to the 4 low order digits of the box number (as in my

All-kana documents

2002-03-04 Thread $B$m!;!;!;!;(B $B$m!;!;!;(B
If I have some all-kana documents (like, say, if I decide to encode some old women's literature, not that I will, but you might), is there an extension of UTF-8 that will alow me to strip off the redundant "this is kana" byte from most of the kana? After the first few thousand kana, it might

Re: All-kana documents

2002-03-04 Thread Markus Scherer
You could - use SCSU (UTR 6) - use BOCU-1 (http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/icuhtml/design/conversion/bocu1/bocu1.html) - invent your own... markus

Re: All-kana documents

2002-03-04 Thread Kenneth Whistler
If I have some all-kana documents , is there an extension of UTF-8 that will alow me to strip off the redundant this is kana byte from most of the kana? No After the first few thousand kana, it might be like, Yeah, we get it already! It's kana! It's KANA!! You can stop reminding us

RE: How to make oo with combining breve/macron over pair?

2002-03-04 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Kent Karlsson's suggestion: I vaguely suggested adding an enclosing (in some sense) invisible combining character to solve this: o, CGJ, o, invisible-enclosing, combining breve No character has been designated for such use, though And I haven't made a formal proposal yet (ie create a

Re: All-kana documents

2002-03-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
One has naught to do but look. :-) cf: http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr6/ MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "$B$m!;!;!;!;(B $B$m!;!;!;(B" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04,