Re: Panther PUA behavior

2004-02-04 Thread John Hudson
Dean Snyder wrote: > This is not an affectation, it is a strong conviction. Doing ongoing > research in 8 or 9 ancient scripts I have always been a strong proponent > of native character set usage; transliteration can be an adjunct, but > never a substitute for serious work. A noble conviction, bu

New translation

2004-02-04 Thread Magda Danish \(Unicode\)
Another translation has just been posted to the Unicode site: “What is Unicode?” in Turkish. Check it out at http://www.unicode.org/standard/translations/turkish.html     --- Magda Danish Administrative Director The Unicode Consortium +1 650-693-3921  

RE: Alpha and/or Numeric

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Constable
ISO 639-3 (code for comprehensive language coverage) and ISO 639-5 (code for language collections) will both use alpha-3 identifiers. These two codes and the alpha-3 code will share a common alpha-3 identifier space. ISO 639-2/T and ISO 639-2/B will become subsets of the union of ISO 639-3 and

Re: Panther PUA behavior

2004-02-04 Thread Dean Snyder
D. Starner wrote at 10:07 PM on Monday, February 2, 2004: >> I hope Apple re-thinks this, because it makes PUA useless in plain text. > >That's because it is. Without further specification, the PUA is completely >ambigious. So you're saying PUA is only useful for rich or marked-up text? >> end

Re: Panther PUA behavior

2004-02-04 Thread Dean Snyder
Deborah Goldsmith wrote at 1:20 PM on Wednesday, February 4, 2004: >On Feb 2, 2004, at 9:20 PM, Dean Snyder wrote: >> I hope Apple re-thinks this, because it makes PUA useless in plain >> text. > >Doing font substitution on PUA code points was causing problems, >because we have found a lot of fo

RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document]

2004-02-04 Thread Hohberger, Clive
Title: RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document] -Original Message-From: Mike Ayers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:59 AMTo: 'John Burger'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Pho-f***ing-ology (was: RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-docum ent])

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Ayers
Title: Pho-f***ing-ology (was: RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document]) From: Hohberger, Clive [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:08 PM > An American would have said something like: > "I don't think anyone would actually say they are f***king behind it..."

Re: Panther PUA behavior

2004-02-04 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Feb 2, 2004, at 9:20 PM, Dean Snyder wrote: I hope Apple re-thinks this, because it makes PUA useless in plain text. Doing font substitution on PUA code points was causing problems, because we have found a lot of fonts have garbage entries in their cmaps in the PUA, due to the implementation

RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document]

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Ayers
Title: RE: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of John Burger > I actually don't think anyone would really say "be-f***ing-hind" - it     Yes, they would.  I can't say for sure whether or not I've heard this exact

Alpha and/or Numeric

2004-02-04 Thread Marion Gunn
Chuig: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's with the proposed new part(s) of ISO 639 - are new codes likely to go alpha or numeric or combo? Anyone know? mg -- Marion Gunn * EGTeo (Estab.1991) 27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an Bhóthair, Co. Átha Cliath, Éire. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

OT: Phonology [was: interesting SIL-document]

2004-02-04 Thread John Burger
John Cowan wrote: Fair enough; but hang-er, sing-ing *is* the conventional analysis. English, generally speaking, defies the convention of preferring onsets to codas. My understanding is that, generally, English does not, in fact, defy this convention, known as the Onset Maximization Principle

Re: Panther PUA behavior

2004-02-04 Thread Doug Ewell
Michael Everson wrote: >> From how I understand what Dean wrote, the issue is a very simple >> one. What he wanted did work in Jaguar. It doesn't work in Panther. >> He is unhappy about that. > > He should file a bug report with Apple if he wants anything done > about it. This is a familiar chai

Re: interesting SIL-document

2004-02-04 Thread Andrew C. West
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:12:41 +, Michael Everson wrote: > > At 02:50 -0800 2004-02-04, Peter Kirk wrote: > > >As for Birmingham, I like the idea of analysing > >it as a monosyllable [b?m©Øm] although I would > >tend to think of the eng and the second m as > >syllabic, but there is then a nea

Greek zero

2004-02-04 Thread Raymond Mercier
I have made a proposal to the UTC to encode the Greek symbol for zero, as used in astronomical texts. An extended version of  this is available on my site http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/RaymondM/. It is a rather long pdf file.   Raymond Mercier

Re: interesting SIL-document

2004-02-04 Thread Michael Everson
At 02:50 -0800 2004-02-04, Peter Kirk wrote: As for Birmingham, I like the idea of analysing it as a monosyllable [b?m©Øm] although I would tend to think of the eng and the second m as syllabic, but there is then a near minimal pair with the interjection [mhm] meaning "no". [mhm] is a positive

Re: interesting SIL-document

2004-02-04 Thread Michael Everson
At 02:13 -0800 2004-02-04, Andrew C. West wrote: Offhand I can't think of any English placenames with a -ham suffix that don't have a silent "h" (Farnham, Fareham, Wokingham ...), although "h" is generaly pronounced in other common placename suffixes such as -hampton and -hurst. West Ham? ;-) -

Re: interesting SIL-document

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Kirk
On 04/02/2004 02:13, Andrew C. West wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:53:40 -0800, Peter Kirk wrote: There are minimal pairs at the syllable level between the British pronounciation of Birmingham (silent h, stress on first syllable only) and many similar -ingham names, and (rarer) place names li

Re: interesting SIL-document

2004-02-04 Thread Andrew C. West
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:53:40 -0800, Peter Kirk wrote: > > There are minimal pairs at the > syllable level between the British pronounciation of Birmingham (silent > h, stress on first syllable only) and many similar -ingham names, and > (rarer) place names like Odiham (Hampshire) - although I s

Re: Panther PUA behavior

2004-02-04 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:41 -0800 2004-02-03, Peter Kirk wrote: From how I understand what Dean wrote, the issue is a very simple one. What he wanted did work in Jaguar. It doesn't work in Panther. He is unhappy about that. He should file a bug report with Apple if he wants anything done about it. -- Michael Evers