Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 6/20/2012 8:09 PM, Shriramana Sharma wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Ken Whistlerk...@sybase.com wrote: I don't see any necessary correlation between what sequences people might end up insisting on naming (for whatever reason) and what people might consider to be graphemes. I

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Michael Everson
On 21 Jun 2012, at 04:09, Shriramana Sharma wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: I don't see any necessary correlation between what sequences people might end up insisting on naming (for whatever reason) and what people might consider to be graphemes.

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: But the point is not just the sequence, but also the name for it. What do you propose? Well I couldn't propose a name conforming to the naming rules without revealing what was munged up, could I? :-) On Thu, Jun 21,

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Asmus Freytag
OK. Will they always be in NFC? To apply Ken's dictume to this case: That seems like a straitjacket looking for an unwilling wearer. ;-) Unless it's excluded from the start, anytime you limit it, when the time comes you need something like that, you have to invent a new

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Karl Williamson
On 06/21/2012 01:45 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: OK. Will they always be in NFC? To apply Ken's dictume to this case: That seems like a straitjacket looking for an unwilling wearer. ;-) Unless it's excluded from the start, anytime you limit it, when the time comes you need something

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 6/21/2012 7:51 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: On 06/21/2012 01:45 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: OK. Will they always be in NFC? To apply Ken's dictume to this case: That seems like a straitjacket looking for an unwilling wearer. ;-) Unless it's excluded from the start, anytime you

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 6/21/2012 2:56 AM, Shriramana Sharma wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Asmus Freytagasm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: But the point is not just the sequence, but also the name for it. What do you propose? Well I couldn't propose a name conforming to the naming rules without revealing what

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-21 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: U+ MARK D A V I S  :) :) ;) (incidentally, it would be equivalent to the more pithy U+ MARK DAVIS as spaces are ignored in character names... ) Heh -- don't you think that should be DAVIS MARK? :-) Precedents

Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-20 Thread Karl Williamson
All current named sequences appear to be each a single grapheme. That seems like it should always be the case. If I'm right, should UAX #34 say this.

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-20 Thread Ken Whistler
On 6/20/2012 3:22 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: All current named sequences appear to be each a single grapheme. That seems like it should always be the case. Possibly, but keep in mind that neither the Unicode Standard nor UAX #29 in particular define what a grapheme is. UAX #29 specifies an

Re: Are Named sequences always going to be graphemes?

2012-06-20 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: I don't see any necessary correlation between what sequences people might end up insisting on naming (for whatever reason) and what people might consider to be graphemes. I submit that the following sequence shall be allotted