"Philippe Verdy" wrote:
When the Euro was added, there was no real need to modify the 8859
pages and this was not done.
Traditionally the ISO/IEC 8859 code tables have not been modified.
Instead, new parts were added, and this is what was done with 8859-15.
--
Doug Ewell
All the previous things about ISO 8859 is true, but if the Euro symbol
had the success it has (and it works remarkably well) is that Windows
is used on a lot of PCs :
Microsoft modified its all its Windows code pages (unformally named
"ANSI" due to the name of legacy Win16 APIs which
Ken and others,
At the time I was the European project team leader for the standardization
of the euro, and as such I was strongly pushing for the addition of the euro
sign to Latin-1, which could not be done without adding a new part, which
then had to be done for the visibility. I fully agree
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, I wrote
>
> > Even in the year 2010, the euro sign (¤) doesn't work reliably.
>
> in both the Unicode list and in the newsgroup de.test.
>
> unicode.org shows a euro sign:
> http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2010-m06/0372.htm
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> But you may see one day their national airways renamed
> "Corean Airlines", or its main standard body renamed "CSC"...
There's no national airline in South Korea. Korean Air has been private
for more than two decades and has been competing with Asian
At 00:37 +0100 2003-12-16, Philippe Verdy wrote:
But all this is completely out of topic of Unicode (we are more concerned
here by language codes than by country/territory codes).
Yes, it is.
Still, ISO 3166 or in UN codes is an incomplete standard, as it does not map
correctly all dependant terr
Doug Ewell wrote:
> Oops! I wrote:
> > I don't think that implies any requirement to keep the names mnemonic,
> s/names/codes/
The recent changes in ISO 3166 prooves the opposite: country codes sometimes
change without any requirement to do so:
See "YU" which should have been left even if it's n
Oops! I wrote:
> I don't think that implies any requirement to keep the names mnemonic,
s/names/codes/
-Doug
Philippe Verdy wrote:
>> Please, please let the ISO 3166/MA not get sucked into this one.
>
> That's not ISO 3166/MA that assigns official country names.
>
> ISO 3166/MA just uses the official country list from the United
> Nations, which is simply updating its registration for country members
>
Doug Ewell writes:
> > for the official english names (no change
> > necessary for the French version which is already "CorÃe" and
> > "corÃen"), and possibly (if Corea opts for it) a new attribution for
> > its country code (but the "cr" country code is already assigned to
> > Costa-Rica).
>
> Pl
Philippe Verdy wrote:
> But you may see one day their national airways renamed
> "Corean Airlines", or its main standard body renamed "CSC"...
And perhaps a glyph variant for U+327F?
-Doug Ewell
Fullerton, California
http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/
> Probably no change in ISO 639, which deals with language names.
> DEFINITELY no change in ISO 646, which is the ASCII character set.
> Maybe a change in ISO 3166. (Suggestion: Re-read first, then hit
> "Send.")
Oops! You're right, that's an error when rewriting part of the
sentence. I don't kno
Philippe Verdy wrote:
> > There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
> > troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like
> > "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter. (...snip...)
>
> This is very excessive. The reform will certainly not affect common
> words..
> -Message d'origine-
> De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la
> part de Carl W. Brown
> Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2003 16:15
> À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : [OT] Euro-English (was: Corea? (Re: Swastika to be banned by
> Microsoft?)
>
>
&
seem strange...
I've reposted the earlier items in this thread to Qalam,* which might be a more
appropriate place for the discussion??
Don
* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qalam/
Quoting "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Euro-English
> The EU announces changes
Euro-English
The EU announces changes to the spellings of common English words...
European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached
to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications,
rather than German, which was the other possibility.
As part of
On 08/10/2003 16:52, Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote:
Hi,
I Have requirement to display Euro Currency Symbol for en_GB
locale.I know that if we use en_GB as CurrencLocale, then it default
to Pound.Is there any way I can set it to Euro.
Thanks
Pankaj
It has occurred to me, after reading
the locale to use euros I have to
> download this tool and run it while switched into the FRENCH/FRANCE
locale!
Microsoft has already provided the administrative Euro settings tool that
allows users to see the Euro in their corresponding prefered locale instead
of the legacy unit: with this too
I think Addison is on the right track here.
I would like to point to ICU sample code for this kind of thing:
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/icu/source/samples/numfmt/main.cpp
See the code there from setNumberFormatCurrency_2_6 on down (the preceding code is for older ICU
version
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Euro Currency for UK
> > Isn't Euro support added to all CP1252 versions of Windows 98 and later,
> > and in Windows 95 if people
> Isn't Euro support added to all CP1252 versions of Windows 98 and later,
> and in Windows 95 if people manually visit some Microsoft web page and
> download an update for this?
Yes (well, I'm not sure of the exact versions, but that's a minor matter). At this
point mo
wo possibilities here.
If you want to use your existing software to display currencies as the
Euro instead of pounds, you can generally either set the display
settings (Windows Regional options control panel) for currency to "look
like" the Euro. Or you can set (on Unix systems) the LC_
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Euro symbol is not in ISO 8859-1, it is however in ISO 8859-15 and ISO 8859-16. It was added to CP1252 after the inital specification of > CP1252 and hence some systems may not render it correctly (especially since the update may have seemed a pointless install
> The Euro symbol is available, and should be displayed correctly if you
> have a suitable font, in CP1252 and ISO-8859-1 which are the usual
> legacy encodings used in the UK - and of course in Unicode.
The Euro symbol is not in ISO 8859-1, it is however in ISO 8859-15 and ISO 8859-16
On 08/10/2003 16:52, Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote:
Hi,
I Have requirement to display Euro Currency Symbol for en_GB
locale.I know that if we use en_GB as CurrencLocale, then it default
to Pound.Is there any way I can set it to Euro.
Thanks
Pankaj
Our default currency in the UK is still
u+20AC should display as € EURO SIGN, _regardless_ what the
locale is.
If it does not then your system is broken.
If it does, but your keyboard layout does not have a key for
u+20AC then get e.g. UniPad at www.unipad.org
- Original Message -
From:
Jain,
Pankaj (MED, TCS
Hi,
I
Have requirement to display Euro Currency Symbol for en_GB locale.I know that if
we use en_GB as CurrencLocale, then it default to Pound.Is there any way I can
set it to Euro.
Thanks
Pankaj
Peter Kirk wrote:
> [...] I guess English legs tended to be longer than Roman
> ones.
Well, if by "English" you mean those Germanic barbarians who invaded
Britannia, I guess that the British mile existed way before they set their
feet on the island...
_ Marco
On 20/08/2003 04:58, Kent Karlsson wrote:
Mark Davis wrote:
awful. At least with inches, feet, and miles, the number of
feet per mile don't
vary depending on which mile one is talking about!
A Danish mile is 7 km, a Swedish mile (a fairly popular
distance measure here) is 10 km, and an En
Mark Davis wrote:
> awful. At least with inches, feet, and miles, the number of
> feet per mile don't
> vary depending on which mile one is talking about!
A Danish mile is 7 km, a Swedish mile (a fairly popular
distance measure here) is 10 km, and an English mile is
a mere 1.6 km (approx.). So y
Ted Hopp wrote:
> Since we're speaking of the French (we are, aren't we?) what ever
> happened to French Revolutionary Metric Time?
It was revived in 1998, but the meridian was moved to Switzerland, the
day was divided into 1000 "beats" instead of 10 hours of 100 minutes
each, and the whole thin
> "Curtis" == Curtis Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marco> TOILETS ---> 50 yds (45.72 m)
Curtis> To be precise, it should have said 50.00 yards (or perhaps 46 m).
Actually, 50 only has one significant digit, so that would
in fact round to 50 m afterall. ☺
-JimC
Resending with the correct address...
On 19/08/2003 13:49, Carl W. Brown wrote:
Mark,
Yes, I am sick and tired of dealing with this horrible
non-decimal measurement
system the US has for time: the number of units per other unit
vary all across
the board: 60..61 : 1, 60 : 1, 24 : 1, 28..31 :
John,
> A kilosec is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a late appointment
> (in some countries, anyhow).
>
> A megasec is enough time to do a small project.
>
> If a marriage lasts a gigasec, it is doing very well.
1 pictun = 20 baktun = 2,880,000 days = approx. 7885 years
1 calabtun = 2
Carl W. Brown scripsit:
> I also have a hard time remembering that a Hundredweight c.w.t is
> 112 pounds. I am glad that it is not in common usage.
The Imperial cwt is indeed 112 lb, but the U.S. customary cwt remains 100 lb.
> But working on a house with feet, inches and fractions drives me
>
Ted Hopp wrote:
> Sorry, it would have to be Greenbank, not Washington.
Greenbank. Hm... has a nice ring to it. Greenbank... Greenbank Mean
Time. I could live with that.
On a (hardly) more serious note, Mark Davis wrote:
> this horrible non-decimal measurement system the US
> has for time: the
Timothy Partridge scripsit:
> In the UK the inch is now defined as 25.4mm rather than a subdivision of a
> standard yard kept under lock and key.
True enough, but the yard is still exactly 36 inches.
--
If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan
it has been said, then you
Mark,
> Yes, I am sick and tired of dealing with this horrible
> non-decimal measurement
> system the US has for time: the number of units per other unit
> vary all across
> the board: 60..61 : 1, 60 : 1, 24 : 1, 28..31 : 1, 12 : 1,
> 365..366 : 1 --
> awful. At least with inches, feet, and mi
John Cowan recently said:
> Marco Cimarosti scripsit:
>
> > You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metric And Imperial Units Whose
> > Difference Is So Small As To Be Pointless.
> >
> > E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be kept
> > different. In a public park some
Ted Hopp writes
>
> Since we're speaking of the French (we are, aren't we?) what ever happened
> to French Revolutionary Metric Time?
The other French attempts were less successful, such as the 12 30-day
months. The French names for the months Vendémiaire, etc., were parodied in
an English version
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- Original Message -
From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:15
Subject: Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:46 PM, Raymond Mercier wrote:
> At some time in the 70's when I was at conference to mark the centenary of
> the Greenwich meridian I learned that the French agreed to give up the
Paris
> meridian if the British agreed to go metric-and that was over a century
ago
> !
Michael Everson scripsit:
> >Michael. Look up "yard" in that OED of yours. Then tell me again just
> >how much you wish to have it "abolished".
>
> It will be a great day when the US finally accepts and implements the
> metric system.
I agree entirely.
--
One Word to write them all,
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Cowan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: Marco Cimarosti
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SPAM: Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements (was: Re:
> Handwritten EURO
At some time in the 70's when I was at conference to mark the centenary of
the Greenwich meridian I learned that the French agreed to give up the Paris
meridian if the British agreed to go metric-and that was over a century ago
!
Maybe the U.S. could be bribed to go metric if they were allowed to h
At 10:39 -0400 2003-08-19, John Cowan wrote:
Michael. Look up "yard" in that OED of yours. Then tell me again just
how much you wish to have it "abolished".
It will be a great day when the US finally accepts and implements the
metric system.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http:/
on 2003-08-19 04:18 Pim Blokland wrote:
Ha! Fat chance! You might as well suggest we abolish the yard
altogether!
Then, how would I have a yard sale? (or even a yard sail?)
--
Curtis Clark http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/
Mockingbird Font Works http://www.mockfo
At 08:37 -0700 2003-08-19, Doug Ewell wrote:
Around the 1970s, it became fashionable for baseball stadiums to display
field dimensions on the outfield walls in meters as well as feet.
Because of the Canadians?
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
on 2003-08-19 02:51 Marco Cimarosti wrote:
TOILETS --->
50 yds (45.72 m)
To be precise, it should have said 50.00 yards (or perhaps 46 m).
--
Curtis Clark http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/
Mockingbird Font Works http://www.mockfont.com/
Marco Cimarosti wrote:
> E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be kept
> different. In a public park somewhere in UK or Ireland I have seen the
> following sign:
>
> TOILETS --->
> 50 yds (45.72 m)
Around the 1970s, it became fashionable for baseball stadiums to
Pim Blokland wrote:
> > It must be a really urgent need if one cares about those 3.28
> metres...
>
> 4.28 actually.
Ooops.
> But are you serious about lengthening the yard to be the same size
> as the meter?
I was just joking...
> Ha! Fat chance! You might as well suggest we abolish the y
Michael Everson scripsit:
> >'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
> >desire to have my yard abolished.
>
> It shall pass the way of the cubit and the stadia
Michael. Look up "yard" in that OED of yours. Then tell me again just
how much you wish to have it "ab
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
> However, Esperanto was not entirely successful in its goal to become a
> second language for everyone, given that more people speak Klingon than
> Esperanto,
Entirely false. Esperanto speakers are numbered in the millions, including
hundreds, perhaps thousands, who
At 08:41 -0400 2003-08-19, John Cowan wrote:
Michael Everson scripsit:
At 13:18 +0200 2003-08-19, Pim Blokland wrote:
>You might as well suggest we abolish the yard altogether!
What a superb idea.
'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
desire to have my yard aboli
Michael Everson scripsit:
> At 13:18 +0200 2003-08-19, Pim Blokland wrote:
>
> >You might as well suggest we abolish the yard altogether!
>
> What a superb idea.
'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
desire to have my yard abolished.
--
"Do I contradict myself?
Marco Cimarosti scripsit:
> You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metric And Imperial Units Whose
> Difference Is So Small As To Be Pointless.
>
> E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be kept
> different. In a public park somewhere in UK or Ireland I have seen the
>
At 13:18 +0200 2003-08-19, Pim Blokland wrote:
You might as well suggest we abolish the yard altogether!
What a superb idea.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
ill
-Original Message-
From: Marco Cimarosti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:51 AM
To: 'Doug Ewell'; Unicode Mailing List
Cc: Michael Everson
Subject: RE: [Way OT] Beer measurements (was: Re: Handwritten EURO sign)
E.g., I never understood why on ea
Marco Cimarosti schreef:
> E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be
kept
> different. In a public park somewhere in UK or Ireland I have seen
the
> following sign:
>
> TOILETS --->
> 50 yds (45.72 m)
>
> It must be a really urgent need if one cares about those
On 19/08/2003 02:51, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
Doug Ewell wrote:
Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500
mL, just as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now
officially 750 mL? Seems like a good task for an ISO
working group.
You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metr
Doug Ewell wrote:
> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500
> mL, just as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now
> officially 750 mL? Seems like a good task for an ISO
> working group.
You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metric And Imperial Units Whose
Difference Is So
Philippe Verdy scripsit:
> > Egads! THAT would be enough to drive a person to
> > drink.
>
> Do you mean "drunk" here? At least that person should not be
> authorized to drive after 66 cl (or two 33cl bottles),
"Drive [someone] to drink" means "frustrate or annoy [someone]
sufficiently th
John Cowan replied:
Rick McGowan scripsit:
>> Which explains to me why a pint of bitter in England seems quite so
>> enormous... well for a small Yank... ;-)
>Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a liter
of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah, th
From: "Ted Hopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:48 PM, Doug Ewell wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at
> > 500 mL,
500 ml (lowercase for the official liter symbol)
> > just as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially
> > 750 m
For what it's worth, in America, you spell it "meter"; in England, you spell
it "metre".
Jill
-Original Message-
From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off t
Ted Hopp wrote:
>> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500 mL, just
>> as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially 750 mL? Seems
>> like a good task for an ISO working group.
>
> Egads! THAT would be enough to drive a person to drink.
Thus promoting widespread use of
On Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:48 PM, Doug Ewell wrote:
> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500 mL, just as
> a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially 750 mL? Seems like a
> good task for an ISO working group.
Egads! THAT would be enough to drive a person to drink.
Doug Ewell scripsit:
> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500 mL, just as
> a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially 750 mL? Seems like a
> good task for an ISO working group.
Arrgh. Shall we return to a firkin of beer in London being one size,
a firkin of wine in L
Michael Everson wrote:
>> Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a
>> liter of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah,
>> that's just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the
>> Flintstone one is only .47 liters.
>
> A half-litre can of Gui
On 17/08/2003 15:16, Michael Everson wrote:
At 18:01 -0400 2003-08-17, John Cowan wrote:
Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a liter
of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah, that's
just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the Flintsto
At 18:01 -0400 2003-08-17, John Cowan wrote:
Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a liter
of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah, that's
just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the Flintstone one
is only .47 liters.
A half-litre can o
Rick McGowan scripsit:
> Which explains to me why a pint of bitter in England seems quite so
> enormous... well for a small Yank... ;-)
Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a liter
of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah, that's
just right. The
John Cowan remarked...
> Of course it's
> the *pint* (8 pints to a gallon) that is 16 or 20 fluid ounces.
Which explains to me why a pint of bitter in England seems quite so
enormous... well for a small Yank... ;-)
Rick
Doug Ewell scripsit:
> > For the record, it's true that the Imperial gallon has 20 fluid ounces
> > and the Fred Flintstone gallon only 16, [...]
>
> Quite a small gallon. The one I use has 128 fluid ounces.
Arrgh. I've actually made this mistake publicly before. Of course it's
the *pint* (8
Peter Kirk scripsit:
> USA and UK do use this alternative system, except that the US gallon is
> different from the British one (exactly 20% smaller I think),
For the record, it's true that the Imperial gallon has 20 fluid ounces
and the Fred Flintstone gallon only 16, *but* it's also true tha
On 16/08/2003 21:51, Philippe Verdy wrote:
Note that USA, UK, Australia and New Zealand are members,
even if they often can use legally or most usually the British
system (miles, weight pounds, gallons, degrees Fahrenheit...)
USA and UK do use this alternative system, except that the US gallon
From: "Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)
> On 2003.08.14, 05:24, John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anto&#x
On 2003.08.14, 05:24, John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin scripsit:
>
>> Some habits are indeed language dependant, but some others are just
>> tradition (some of it imposed as logic and correct decades ago, like
>> compulsive caseless singular for SI units in speech
On 2003.08.14, 00:52, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the "dollar sign" can be used for currencies other than the USD,
> even for some which name is not even "dollar", then I suppose there is
> a theoreitical possiblity
Doug Ewell scripsit:
> > In 19th century California, it was common for things to cost 12.5
> > cents, although the U.S. has never made coins for this amount, nor for
> > 0.5 cents either.
>
> The U.S. did indeed make half-cent coins, from 1793 through 1857.
Well, I guess this is my version of a
John Cowan wrote:
> In 19th century California, it was common for things to cost 12.5
> cents, although the U.S. has never made coins for this amount, nor for
> 0.5 cents either.
The U.S. did indeed make half-cent coins, from 1793 through 1857.
However, they generally did not circulate outside o
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
> What's more, in the Isle of Man (which is situated between Britain and
> Ireland) they accept pretty much any currency under the sun. You can pay for
> things in a mixture of pounds sterling, euro, US dollars, whatever. They
> don't care
From: "Peter Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Agreed. But it's not a member or part of the EU, or of the UK, like
the
> Channel Islands - which makes them all convenient tax havens. It is
> self-governing, with the oldest Parliament in the world I understand.
I thought it was in Iceland...
> > They aren’t really SI preficies in this context. Milli, centi, kilo,
> > mega and giga (at least) have part of the global lexicon; terra is
> ^
> > not far behind (especially if disk sizes continue to grow).
>
> Does that refer
On 15/08/2003 04:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's more, in the Isle of Man (which is situated between Britain and
Ireland) they accept pretty much any currency under the sun. You can pay for
things in a mixture of pounds sterling, euro, US dollars, whatever. They
don't care. Shops
What's more, in the Isle of Man (which is situated between Britain and
Ireland) they accept pretty much any currency under the sun. You can pay for
things in a mixture of pounds sterling, euro, US dollars, whatever. They
don't care. Shops will just take anything, and if necessary
ds Sterling (£), and in Dublin euro (*).
Ireland, as a member of the European Monetary
Union, is one of the countries which uses euros,
which is why you use them in Dublin. The United
Kingdom is not a member of the EMU, which is why
you use pounds in Belfast.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson
Not pausing to wonder why on earth this list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is
currently discussing my country's currencies, only to wonder if anyone
here knows whether Ireland is the only EU country which has to use two -
in Belfast we use Pounds Sterling (£), and in Dublin euro ().
mg
ps.
To
et alone the validity of things
> > Anto'nio> like k€, c€ etc.)
> >
> > I'm sure things like m€, k€, M€ and even G€ will come into use,
> > though I expect more will use them in front of the digits.
Certainly not: the placement of the currency unit symbol
> > After all the euro is a common currency and its figures should be
> > written in a common way.
>
> Why?
Why, too? This is absolutely not required by the european directives,
which has already stated different names for the subdivision for each
language, and accepted distinc
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote:
> On 2003.08.06, 11:12, Philippe Verdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > the placement of the currency unit symbol or multiple is language
> > dependant, and the same local practices are used with the
> euro, as the
> >
Jim Cloos asked
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(Bquoted by Ken, how about:
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(Bthe eight ball of God
(B
(BH... Well, that certainly lacks a seasonal
> "Kenneth" == Kenneth Whistler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> terra is not far behind (especially if disk sizes continue to grow).
Kenneth> Does that refer to physical disk sizes growing to global
Kenneth> scale, or disk contents sufficiently capacious to encompass
Kenneth> the entire store
On 14/08/2003 09:50, Michael Everson wrote:
In Ireland of course when we used pence we wrote "2p" and said "two pee".
And we still do in the UK!
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>> James H. Cloos Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure things like m, k, M and even G will come into use,
>>> though I expect more will use them in front of the digits.
Perhaps, but that would be incorrect, methinks: Using SI preffixes
implies that one is adopting th
t that would be incorrect, methinks: Using SI
Anto'nio> preffixes implies that one is adopting the said unit (the
Anto'nio> euro, in this case) as if it were a SI unit itself -- and
Anto'nio> thus all other formal rules of the SI would apply. This
Anto'nio> includ
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin scripsit:
> Some habits are indeed language dependant, but some others are just
> tradition (some of it imposed as logic and correct decades ago, like
> compulsive caseless singular for SI units in speech), and should not
> necessarily apply.
"Compulsive caseless singul
At 08:55 -0700 2003-08-05, Doug Ewell wrote:
The original legislative attempt to dictate the exact proportions (and
even color) of the euro sign, regardless of the font in use, was just
silly.
That is very old history, as detailed on my website
(http://www.evertype.com/standards/euro
Michael Everson schreef:
> More
> horrifying is the idiotic "euro is immune to grammar" error which
> continues to be broadcast daily by our television and radio
stations,
> all because people with power lacked the moral courage to say
"oops,
> yeah, that was t
António Martins-Tuválkin wrote:
> I noticed a hand written euro sign with wavy strokes, consistently
> used by a person who is the chief accountant of an organizazion where
> I hold also a managing position (this meaning that I see a lot of
> these signs).
Any symbol that looks rem
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