Marco Cimarosti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In English, "i.e." should be read ['id 'est] or ['ðæt 'iz], but I
> think that also ['ai 'i:] would be acceptable and understandable.
In fact, I think the most common reading would be ['ai 'i:], followed
closely by ['ðæt 'iz] and much more distantly b
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:32:11PM +0200, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
> > | If yes, a sequence that can be confused with something else can be
> > | inappropriate for, e.g., a screen reader application.
> >
> > Hmmm. I wouldn't expect that to be a problem in this case.
>
> I would, if I were a Norweg
Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> | - Should that symbol be recognized as a Norwegian word with a
> | specific pronunciation?
>
> That would be application-dependent, I would say. Some would probably
> like to see the text as written, while others would like to see the
> "9:" replaced by "det vil si",
At 22:33 +0200 2002-05-02, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>| If it is a turned c, then < 0254, 003A > would work, I think.
>
>"Work" here means "produce the correct visual impression"?
And represent "det vil si" unambiguously in plain text.
--
Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.e
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 05/02/2002 03:33:39 PM Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>
> >| If it is a turned c, then < 0254, 003A > would work, I think.
> >
> >"Work" here means "produce the correct visual impression"?
>
> I was assuming "work" to mean "provide an adequate encoded
representation",
>
On 05/02/2002 03:33:39 PM Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>| If it is a turned c, then < 0254, 003A > would work, I think.
>
>"Work" here means "produce the correct visual impression"?
I was assuming "work" to mean "provide an adequate encoded representation",
unless there are some significant proce
* Peter Constable
|
| Question for clarification: does the object in question involve a
| reversed c or a turned c (aka "open o")?
I would call it "turned c/open o".
| If it is a turned c, then < 0254, 003A > would work, I think.
"Work" here means "produce the correct visual impression"?
--
At 11:49 +0200 2002-05-02, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>* Lars Marius Garshol
>|
>| Also, I am very curious if this character is used (or even known)
>| outside Norway at all.
>
>* Michael Everson
>|
>| It's a Latin abbreviation I imagine. It's found in older Irish texts
>| where it represents "con
* Marco Cimarosti
|
| I don't know if Unicode's UTC has a rule or decides case by case.
|
| Applying common sense, I would say that an important criterion
| should be the appearance of the symbol (that's why I asked you for a
| picture).
|
| Although Unicode does not encode glyphs, if the glyp
* Lars Marius Garshol
|
| Does anyone know of an international name for this character, or any
| use of it outside Norway?
* Marco Cimarosti
|
| What's its name in Norwegian?
As far as I know it doesn't have a name, it's just called "the
character for 'i.e.'".
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Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopia
* Lars Marius Garshol
|
| I think you got the pronouns wrong there. :) My common sense is
| obviously screwed up in this regard. (Basically I was trying to find
| out how to correct my common sense...)
* Michael Everson
|
| Naaah. You think of it as one thing, but when you compare it to
| simi
* John Hudson
|
| My colleagues at the Typography Dept. of the University of Reading and
| at the Central School in London have taken to using the term
| 'typeform' to refer to a typographic element that, when seen, is
| understood to be a single entity, regardless of how it is encoded or
| disp
* Lars Marius Garshol
|
| Also, I am very curious if this character is used (or even known)
| outside Norway at all.
* Michael Everson
|
| It's a Latin abbreviation I imagine. It's found in older Irish texts
| where it represents "con".
Are you saying that precisely the same character ("9:") c
At 16:33 +0200 2002-04-30, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>* Lars Marius Garshol
>|
>| Hmmm. I accept Marco's statement that while it's a single symbol, it
>| doesn't necessarily have to be a single character. What is the rule
>| for deciding whether a single symbol needs one or more characters?
>
>*
* Lars Marius Garshol
|
| Hmmm. I accept Marco's statement that while it's a single symbol, it
| doesn't necessarily have to be a single character. What is the rule
| for deciding whether a single symbol needs one or more characters?
* Michael Everson
|
| You use your common sense.
I think yo
> Hmmm. I accept Marco's statement that while it's a single symbol, it
> doesn't necessarily have to be a single character. What is the rule
> for deciding whether a single symbol needs one or more characters?
I don't know if Unicode's UTC has a rule or decides case by case.
Applying common sens
At 05:46 4/30/2002, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>Hmmm. I accept Marco's statement that while it's a single symbol, it
>doesn't necessarily have to be a single character. What is the rule
>for deciding whether a single symbol needs one or more characters?
>
>What happens if I find a font that has t
At 14:46 +0200 2002-04-30, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>Hmmm. I accept Marco's statement that while it's a single symbol, it
>doesn't necessarily have to be a single character. What is the rule
>for deciding whether a single symbol needs one or more characters?
You use your common sense. Obviousl
* Michael Everson
|
| It's a Latin abbreviation I imagine. It's found in older Irish texts
| where it represents "con".
That's interesting. Does it have a name there? Do you know of a name
for it anywhere else?
| You aren't going to get this as a single character. We write
| i.e. with four ch
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Michael Everson wrote:
> At 11:55 +0200 2002-04-30, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> >* Stefan Persson
> >|
> >| Isn't the reversed lower-case "c" somewhere in the IPA block?
> >
> >Could be, but I need "reversed lower-case 'c' followed by colon" as a
> >single character.
> >
> >
At 11:55 +0200 2002-04-30, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>* Stefan Persson
>|
>| Isn't the reversed lower-case "c" somewhere in the IPA block?
>
>Could be, but I need "reversed lower-case 'c' followed by colon" as a
>single character.
>
>Also, I am very curious if this character is used (or even know
At 02:55 4/30/2002, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
>Could be, but I need "reversed lower-case 'c' followed by colon" as a
>single character.
Why do you need it as a single character? What do you want to do with it
that you cannot do with a sequence of two characters?
John Hudson
Tiro Typeworks
Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> | I've been looking for the the character used in Norwegian (and
> | possibly elsewhere) as an abbreviation for "that is to
> say", "in other
> | words", "i.e.". It looks like a reversed lower-case "c"
> followed by a
> | colon.
>
> * Otto Stolz
> |
> | You mean “ɔ
* Stefan Persson
|
| Isn't the reversed lower-case "c" somewhere in the IPA block?
Could be, but I need "reversed lower-case 'c' followed by colon" as a
single character.
Also, I am very curious if this character is used (or even known)
outside Norway at all.
--
Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian
--- Lars Marius Garshol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: >
> I've been looking for the the character used in
> Norwegian (and
> possibly elsewhere) as an abbreviation for "that is
> to say", "in other
> words", "i.e.". It looks like a reversed lower-case
> "c" followed by a
> colon.
Isn't the reverse
* Lars Marius Garshol
|
| I've been looking for the the character used in Norwegian (and
| possibly elsewhere) as an abbreviation for "that is to say", "in other
| words", "i.e.". It looks like a reversed lower-case "c" followed by a
| colon.
* Otto Stolz
|
| You mean “ɔ:”?
That is: U+0254 U+
Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> I've been looking for the the character used in Norwegian (and
> possibly elsewhere) as an abbreviation for "that is to say", "in other
> words", "i.e.". It looks like a reversed lower-case "c" followed by a
> colon.
You mean “ɔ:”?
Best wishes,
Otto Stolz
I've been looking for the the character used in Norwegian (and
possibly elsewhere) as an abbreviation for "that is to say", "in other
words", "i.e.". It looks like a reversed lower-case "c" followed by a
colon.
I've been searching nameslist.txt as well as the charts, but have been
unable to fin
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