Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-11-15 Thread Marcel Schneider
Dear Leo, Thank you for your kind reply. I hope it will meet anticipated expectations. Itʼs however shocking that when traditional languages require supplemental means for a performative orthography, this is referred to as «proliferating arbitrary characters defined as "latin letter" in

RE: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-31 Thread Peter Constable
of miles from NWT. Peter Sent from my IBM 3277/APL From: Richard Wordingham<mailto:richard.wording...@ntlworld.com> Sent: ‎10/‎30/‎2015 16:37 To: Unicode Discussion<mailto:unicode@unicode.org> Subject: Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada On Fri,

RE: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-30 Thread Peter Constable
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:26 AM > On the opposite, Native Americans HAVE used the Cyrillic script in Alaska > and probably as well in North-Western territories in Canada… In Alaska, yes, because the languages

RE: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-30 Thread Peter Constable
e: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:07:36 + Peter Constable <peter...@microsoft.com> wrote: > From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of > Philippe Verdy Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:26 AM > > > On the opposite, Na

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 22:03:31 + Peter Constable wrote: > This is more plausible. The Tlingit peoples live in coastal regions, > SW parts of Yukon Territory and Alaska. That's not what I would have > referred to as "Northwest Territories". And it's totally not related >

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
Borders around Alaska were very fuzzy and native Americans were mobile in the region. It seems unaoidable that at some time some of their languages have been written by some missionaries and books/religious texts exhanged around. As well, even before Alaska was sold by the Russian Empire to USA,

RE: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-30 Thread Peter Constable
tober 30, 2015 6:00 AM To: Peter Constable <peter...@microsoft.com> Cc: Marcel Schneider <charupd...@orange.fr>; Unicode Discussion <unicode@unicode.org>; Leo Broukhis <l...@mailcom.com> Subject: Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada Borders around Alaska were ve

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:07:36 + Peter Constable wrote: > From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of > Philippe Verdy Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:26 AM > > > On the opposite, Native Americans HAVE used the Cyrillic script in > > Alaska and

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-29 Thread Philippe Verdy
2015-10-29 9:29 GMT+01:00 Marcel Schneider : > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:46:46 -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: > > > Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name > > officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints with names > > starting with

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-29 Thread Leo Broukhis
Dear Marcel, In proposing my "along the same lines" post, I was intending not to mock the alleged feelings of the involved but to underline the impracticality of the idea by providing an extreme example of proliferating arbitrary characters defined as "latin letter" in Unicode in all documents,

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-29 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:25:52 +0100, Philippe Verdy" wrote: > 2015-10-29 9:29 GMT+01:00 Marcel Schneider : > >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:46:46 -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: >> >>> Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name >>> officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-29 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:46:46 -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: > Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name > officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints with names > starting with "LATIN"). This request results in using Latin to imitate Cyrillic in a country where this

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-23 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +, Denis Jacquerye wrote: > Here is what N.W.T.'s language commissioner, Shannon Gullberg is quoted > saying: > “By not allowing for names that contain Dene fonts, diacritical marks and > symbols, she says the Vital Statistics Act is violating the spirit and

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-17 Thread Marcel Schneider
Please disregard my previous faulty e-mail. I don't have much time to spend on issues that I'm not directly concerned with, so sadly I'm very stressed. Here is the accurate one: On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +, Denis Jacquerye wrote: > The Toronto Star, Metro News Toronto had articles using

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-17 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +, Denis Jacquerye wrote: > The Toronto Star, Metro News Toronto had articles using the uppercase Ɂ > U+0241 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GLOTTAL STOP in the name SahaiɁa. This probably > should have been the unicase ʔ U+0294 or the lowercase ɂ U+0241 LATIN SMALL >

RE: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-17 Thread Erkki I Kolehmainen
, Erkki I. Kolehmainen Lähettäjä: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] Puolesta Marcel Schneider Lähetetty: 17. lokakuuta 2015 13:47 Vastaanottaja: Denis Jacquerye Kopio: Unicode Discussion Aihe: Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada Please disregard my previous faulty e-mail

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-16 Thread Marcel Schneider
Amidst the (wise) silence on the precise subject of this thread, Iʼm good to point out that the use of uppercase glottal stop in home country newspapers is certainly for spectacularityʼs and legibilityʼs sake. Would it be a good idea to contact the editors, pointing to the Unicode Mailing List,

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-16 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:46:46 -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: > Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name > officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints with names > starting with "LATIN"). Your question is hard for me to answer, but I believe that basically you are

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-16 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 10/16/2015 12:18 AM, Marcel Schneider wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:46:46 -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: > Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name > officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-15 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +, Denis Jacquerye wrote: > The article uses the unicase ʔ U+0294 LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP in the name > Sahaiʔa. > [...] > The CBC’s March article and a MacLean’s article were using the unicase ʔ > U+0294 as well > [...] > The Toronto Star, Metro News Toronto

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-15 Thread Leo Broukhis
Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints with names starting with "LATIN"). On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Marcel Schneider wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +, Denis Jacquerye

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

2015-10-15 Thread Denis Jacquerye
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 at 23:55 Leo Broukhis wrote: > Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name > officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints with names > starting with "LATIN"). > If these are characters used in an official language of your