Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-31 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
org Subject : Re: Private Use areas Hi Thank you for your posts from earlier today. Actually I learned about JSON yesterday and I am thinking that using JSON could well be a good idea. I found a helpful page with diagrams. http://www.json.org/ Although I hope that a format of record

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-31 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
Hi Thank you for your posts from earlier today. Actually I learned about JSON yesterday and I am thinking that using JSON could well be a good idea. I found a helpful page with diagrams. http://www.json.org/ Although I hope that a format of recording information about the properties of parti

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-31 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 08/28/2018 04:26 AM, William_J_G Overington via Unicode wrote: Hi Mark E. Shoulson wrote: I'm not sure what the advantage is of using circled characters instead of plain old ascii. My thinking is that "plain old ascii" might be used in the text encoded in the file. Sometimes a file

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-31 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 08/28/2018 11:58 AM, William_J_G Overington via Unicode wrote: Asmus Freytag wrote: There are situations where an ad-hoc markup language seems to fulfill a need that is not well served by the existing full-fledged markup languages. You find them in internet "bulletin boards" or services li

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-30 Thread Wordingham Richard via Unicode
> > On 29 August 2018 at 06:47 "Janusz S. Bień via Unicode" > wrote: > > > > > > Storing this information in a font, by hook or crook, would lock > > users > > of those PUA characters into that font. At that rate, you might as > > well > > use ASCII-hacke

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-29 Thread Marcel Schneider via Unicode
On 29/08/18 07:55, Janusz S. Bień via Unicode wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 28 2018 at 9:43 -0700, unicode@unicode.org writes: > > On August 23, 2011, Asmus Freytag wrote: > > > >> On 8/23/2011 7:22 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > >>> Of all applications, a word processor or DTP application would want > >>> to k

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode
> > On 29 August 2018 at 13:05 Andrew West via Unicode > wrote: > > I tested with Word 2007, and normal PUA characters from my font were > > displayed with vertical orientation in a vertical text box, but Plane > 15 PUA characters were rotated. > And then the original questi

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread Andrew West via Unicode
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 11:18, wrote: > > I was using a change horizontal to vertical text feature in office, the > PUA characters being from plane 15. I tested with Word 2007, and normal PUA characters from my font were displayed with vertical orientation in a vertical text box, but Plane 15 PUA

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread via Unicode
Dear Andrew, I was using a change horizontal to vertical text feature in office, the PUA characters being from plane 15. Regards John On 2018-08-29 16:32, Andrew West via Unicode wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 05:07, via Unicode wrote: Yes, as Richard says when CJK Zhuang text is displayed

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread Andrew West via Unicode
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 05:07, via Unicode wrote: > > Yes, as Richard says when CJK Zhuang text is displayed vertically whilst > the Zhuang characters in Unicode remain upright, but those with PUA > codepoints are rotated 90°. John, you did not explain by what mechanism you were trying to display

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread Andrew West via Unicode
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 18:15, WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode wrote: > > Unicode is doing what it can in this matter: > > (a) Zhuang PUA characters are being made individually obsolete. Not by a nebulous entity called "Unicode", or even by the Unicode Consortium per se, but by the hard work over m

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread James Kass via Unicode
John Knightley wrote, > Yes, as Richard says when CJK Zhuang text is displayed > vertically whilst the Zhuang characters in Unicode remain > upright, but those with PUA codepoints are rotated 90°. > This is because the PUA characters are treated like English > text, which are correctly rotated 90°

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-28 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Tue, Aug 28 2018 at 9:43 -0700, unicode@unicode.org writes: > On August 23, 2011, Asmus Freytag wrote: > >> On 8/23/2011 7:22 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: >>> Of all applications, a word processor or DTP application would want >>> to know more about the properties of characters than just whether >>> t

RE: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-28 Thread via Unicode
Dear Richard and Peter, apologies for the lack of clarity. Let me try to explain below. On 2018-08-29 01:13, WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode wrote: On 27 August 2018 at 15:22 Peter Constable via Unicode wrote: Layout engines that support CJK vertical layout do not rely on the 'vert' feature to

RE: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-28 Thread WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode
> > On 27 August 2018 at 15:22 Peter Constable via Unicode > wrote: > > Layout engines that support CJK vertical layout do not rely on the 'vert' > feature to rotate glyphs for CJK ideographs, but rather rotate the glyph 90° > and switch to using vertical glyph metrics. The 'vert' fe

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-28 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode
On August 23, 2011, Asmus Freytag wrote: > On 8/23/2011 7:22 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: >> Of all applications, a word processor or DTP application would want >> to know more about the properties of characters than just whether >> they are RTL. Line breaking, word breaking, and case mapping come to >>

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-28 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
Asmus Freytag wrote: > There are situations where an ad-hoc markup language seems to fulfill a need > that is not well served by the existing full-fledged markup languages. You > find them in internet "bulletin boards" or services like GitHub, where pure > plain text is too restrictive but the

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-28 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
James Kass wrote: > Non-conformant? Well, it's probably overkill anyway. A simpler method of > identifying which PUA convention is being used for a file would be to either have the first line of the file being something like [PUA1] or to have the file name be something like MYFILE.TXTPUA00

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-28 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
Hi Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > I'm not sure what the advantage is of using circled characters instead of > plain old ascii. My thinking is that "plain old ascii" might be used in the text encoded in the file. Sometimes a file containing Private Use Area characters is a mix of regular Unicode

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-28 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 8/27/2018 2:20 PM, Rebecca Bettencourt via Unicode wrote: > That sounds like a non-conformant use of characters

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
But there's nothing wrong with proposing a higher-level protocol; indeed, that's what Ken Whistler was saying: you need a protocol to transmit  this information.  It's metadata, so it will perforce be a higher-level protocol of some kind, whether transmitting actually out-of-band or reserving a

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 08/27/2018 05:18 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: William Overington wrote, On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:59 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: Use circled digits U+24EA, U+2460 .. U+2469, and Circled Latin letters U+24B6 .. U+24E9. Use U+2473 as if it were a circled space. ⓌⒽⓎ◯ⓃⓄⓉ◯ⓊⓈⒺ◯ⓉⒽ

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
James Kass wrote: > If a user has thousands of files using PUA characters, and all the files are > using the same PUA convention, why would each file need to contain metadata > for each PUA character used within? (Rhetorical) Because each such file would then be self-contained and free-standin

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread Rebecca Bettencourt via Unicode
> > > That sounds like a non-conformant use of characters in the U+24xx block. > > Well, you are an expert on these things and I do not understand as to with > what it would be non-conformant. > > A conformant process must interpret ⓅⓊⒶⒹⒶⓉⒶ as the characters ⓅⓊⒶⒹⒶⓉⒶ and not as a signal to process w

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread James Kass via Unicode
William Overington wrote, On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:59 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: > Use circled digits U+24EA, U+2460 .. U+2469, and Circled Latin letters > U+24B6 .. U+24E9. > > Use U+2473 as if it were a circled space. ⓌⒽⓎ◯ⓃⓄⓉ◯ⓊⓈⒺ◯ⓉⒽⒺ◯ⒸⒾⓇⒸⓁⒺⒹ◯ⓈⓅⒶⒸⒺ◯ ⒻⓄⓇ◯ⓉⒽⒺ◯ⒸⒾⓇⒸⓁⒺⒹ◯ⓈⓅⒶⒸⒺ?

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
ter...@microsoft.com, wjgo_10...@btinternet.com, m...@kli.org, kenwhist...@att.net, richard.wording...@ntlworld.com, jameskass...@gmail.com Subject : Re: Private Use areas Well, it is a pity that you did not send your reply to the Unicode mailing list. > That sounds like a non-conformant use of charact

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Peter Constable wrote, > That sounds like a non-conformant use of characters in the U+24xx block. Non-conformant? Well, it's probably overkill anyway. A simpler method of identifying which PUA convention is being used for a file would be to either have the first line of the file being something

RE: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
This was meant to go to the list. From: Peter Constable Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:33 PM To: wjgo_10...@btinternet.com; jameskass...@gmail.com; richard.wording...@ntlworld.com; m...@kli.org; beckie...@gmail.com; verd...@wanadoo.fr Subject: RE: Private Use areas That sounds like a non

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-27 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
. William Overington Monday 27 August 2018 Original message >From : unicode@unicode.org Date : 2018/08/21 - 23:23 (GMTDT) To : d...@ewellic.org Cc : unicode@unicode.org Subject : Re: Private Use areas On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:02 PM Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote: Ken Whistler wrote: &g

RE: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-27 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
e@unicode.org Subject: Re: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...)) On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:53:18 +0800 via Unicode wrote: > On 2018-08-21 08:04, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: > > Still, maybe it > > doesn't really matter

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-26 Thread WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode
> On 21 August 2018 at 01:04 "Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode" > wrote: > > It is kind of a bummer, though, that you can't experiment (easily? or at > all?) in the PUA with scripts that have complex behavior, or even > not-so-complex behavior like accents & combining marks, or RTL directio

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-24 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Fri, Aug 24 2018 at 16:12 +0300, e...@gnu.org writes: >> From: jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) >> Cc: unicode@unicode.org, richard.wording...@ntlworld.com >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:47:03 +0200 >> >> I'm very glad you join the discussion. > > I'm sorry for not joining sooner. In my def

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-24 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
:23 (GMTDT) To : unicode@unicode.org Subject : Re: Private Use areas On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Janusz S. Bień via Unicode wrote: I think PUA users should provide the properties of the characters used in a form analogical to the Unicode itself, and the software should be able to use t

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Unicode
> From: jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) > Cc: unicode@unicode.org, richard.wording...@ntlworld.com > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:47:03 +0200 > > I'm very glad you join the discussion. I'm sorry for not joining sooner. In my defense, I missed the reference to Emacs, and the rest of the discus

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-24 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Thu, Aug 23 2018 at 11:49 -0700, beckie...@gmail.com writes: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > > > I already provide this myself for my uses of the PUA as well as the > > CSUR and any vendor-specific agreements I can find: > > > > http://www.kreativekorp.com/charset

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:34:20 +0200 "Janusz S. Bień via Unicode" wrote: > This is a typical but IMHO obsolete perspective. Fonts are for > *rendering*, new characters and variants are more and more often > needed for *input* of real life old texts with sufficient precision. If we're talking about

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Thu, Aug 23 2018 at 22:17 +0300, e...@gnu.org writes: >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:30:52 +0200 >> Cc: Richard Wordingham >> From: "Janusz S. Bień via Unicode" >> >> >> and in Emacs - to my disappointed it looks like the Unicode data are >> >> set at the compile time, but perhaps this can be n

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Unicode
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:30:52 +0200 > Cc: Richard Wordingham > From: "Janusz S. Bień via Unicode" > > >> and in Emacs - to my disappointed it looks like the Unicode data are > >> set at the compile time, but perhaps this can be negotiated with the > >> developers. > > > > Can you be more spe

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Rebecca Bettencourt via Unicode
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > > I already provide this myself for my uses of the PUA as well as the > > CSUR and any vendor-specific agreements I can find: > > > > http://www.kreativekorp.com/charset/PUADATA/ > > I would prefer to see the data in a repository, so others

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Thu, Aug 23 2018 at 17:26 +0100, unicode@unicode.org writes: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:39:15 +0200 > Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: > >> You make a confusion: I do not propose "hacking" existing codes, but >> instead adding new codes for private variations. It's then up to PUV >> sequence aut

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Thu, Aug 23 2018 at 17:11 +0100, unicode@unicode.org writes: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:10:35 +0200 > "Janusz S. Bień via Unicode" wrote: > >> What kind of software do you have in mind? >> >> I'm primarily interested in the locally developed programs >> >> https://bitbucket.org/jsbien/unihistex

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
Le jeu. 23 août 2018 à 18:31, Richard Wordingham via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> a écrit : > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:39:15 +0200 > Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: > > > You make a confusion: I do not propose "hacking" existing codes, but > > instead adding new codes for private variations. It

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:39:15 +0200 Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: > You make a confusion: I do not propose "hacking" existing codes, but > instead adding new codes for private variations. It's then up to PUV > sequence authors to choose an appropropriate base character that can > have the prop

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:10:35 +0200 "Janusz S. Bień via Unicode" wrote: > What kind of software do you have in mind? > > I'm primarily interested in the locally developed programs > > https://bitbucket.org/jsbien/unihistext/ > > https://bitbucket.org/jsbien/fntsample-fork-with-ucd-comments/ It

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
You make a confusion: I do not propose "hacking" existing codes, but instead adding new codes for private variations. It's then up to PUV sequence authors to choose an appropropriate base character that can have the properties they want to be inherited by the private-use variation sequence, or to c

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Tue, Aug 21 2018 at 11:23 -0700, unicode@unicode.org writes: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Janusz S. Bień via Unicode > wrote: > > I think PUA users should provide the > properties of the characters used in a form analogical to the Unicode > itself, and the software should be able to

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-23 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:58:58 +0200 Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: > For now there's still no way to have variant sequences unless they are > registered and standardized by Unicode but registration should be not > needed (forbidden) for sequences containing PUV. I believe this scheme is no wor

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-22 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
May be this debate could find an end if there was a way to encode "private use variants", so that we can override an existing character with correct properties by creating a custom variant, which would immediately inherit the properties of the base character on which it is encoded. But for now the

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Andrew Cunningham via Unicode
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > On 08/21/2018 02:03 PM, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: > >> >> > Best we can do is shout loudly at OpenType tables and hope to cram in > behavior (or at least appearance, which is more likely all we can get

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 08/21/2018 02:03 PM, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: On 8/21/2018 7:56 AM, Adam Borowski via Unicode wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: On 8/20/2018 5:04 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: Is there a block of RTL PUA also? No. Perhaps t

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Rebecca Bettencourt via Unicode
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:02 PM Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote: > Ken Whistler wrote: > > > The way forward for folks who want to do this kind thing is: > > > > 1. Define a *protocol* for reliable interchange of custom character > > property information about PUA code points. > > I've often thought

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode
Ken Whistler wrote: > The way forward for folks who want to do this kind thing is: > > 1. Define a *protocol* for reliable interchange of custom character > property information about PUA code points. I've often thought that would be a great idea. You can't get to steps 2 and 3 without step 1.

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Adam Borowski via Unicode
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:03:41AM -0700, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: > > On 8/21/2018 7:56 AM, Adam Borowski via Unicode wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: > > > On 8/20/2018 5:04 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: > > > > Is there a bloc

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:03:41 -0700 Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: > On 8/21/2018 7:56 AM, Adam Borowski via Unicode wrote: > Really? Suppose someone wants to implement a bicameral script in PUA. > They would need case mappings for that, and how would those be > "better represented in the font

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Rebecca Bettencourt via Unicode
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Janusz S. Bień via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > I think PUA users should provide the > properties of the characters used in a form analogical to the Unicode > itself, and the software should be able to use this additional > information. > I already pro

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
On 8/21/2018 7:56 AM, Adam Borowski via Unicode wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: On 8/20/2018 5:04 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: Is there a block of RTL PUA also? No. Perhaps there should be? This is a periodic suggestion that never

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Steven R. Loomis via Unicode
2011 Thread: https://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m08/0124.html Please read in particular these two: - https://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m08/0174.html - https://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m08/0212.html (tl;dr: 1. the PUA set is fixed, 2. being priva

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Tue, Aug 21 2018 at 16:56 +0200, unicode@unicode.org writes: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: >> On 8/20/2018 5:04 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: >> > Is there a block of RTL PUA also? >> >> No. > > Perhaps there should be? > > What about desi

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-21 Thread Adam Borowski via Unicode
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: > On 8/20/2018 5:04 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: > > Is there a block of RTL PUA also? > > No. Perhaps there should be? What about designating a part of the PUA to have a specific property? Only certain propert

Re: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-21 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:53:18 +0800 via Unicode wrote: > On 2018-08-21 08:04, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: > > Still, maybe it > > doesn't really matter much: your special-purpose font can treat any > > codepoint any way it likes, right? > Not all properties come from the font. For exampl

Re: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-20 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
Doug Ewell wrote: > Yes, you run the risk of someone else's PUA implementation colliding with > yours. That's why you create a Private Use Agreement, and make sure it's > prominently available to people who want to use your solution. It's not like > there are hundreds of PUA schemes anyway. Ye

Re: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-20 Thread via Unicode
On 2018-08-21 08:04, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: On 08/20/2018 03:12 PM, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: ... some people who would call a PUA solution either batty > or crazy. I don't think it is either batty or crazy. People can certainly use the PUA to interchange text (assuming th

Re: Private Use areas

2018-08-20 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
On 8/20/2018 5:04 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: Is there a block of RTL PUA also? No. --Ken

Re: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-20 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 08/20/2018 03:12 PM, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: > ... some people who would call a PUA solution either batty > or crazy. I don't think it is either batty or crazy. People can certainly use the PUA to interchange text (assuming that they have downloaded fonts and keyboards or some othe

RE: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-20 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode
Mark Davis wrote: > The only caution I would give is that people shouldn't expect general > purpose software to do anything with PUA text that depends on > character properties. Very true, and a good point. People with creative PUA ideas do sometimes expect this to magically work. I have anecdot

Re: Private Use areas (was: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was ...))

2018-08-20 Thread Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode
> ... some people who would call a PUA solution either batty > or crazy. I don't think it is either batty or crazy. People can certainly use the PUA to interchange text (assuming that they have downloaded fonts and keyboards or some other input method beforehand), and it can definitely serve as a