Aw: Re: Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

Freytag" , "UnicoDe List" Betreff: Re: Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right? So I was wondering whether TeX only does this to the ~ input character or the actual NBSP Unicode character too?

Re: Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

So I was wondering whether TeX only does this to the ~ input character or the actual NBSP Unicode character too?

Aw: Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

unlike usual space tokens that are collapsed to one space token.   -- Jörg Knappen   Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Dezember 2019 um 17:20 Uhr Von: "Asmus Freytag via Unicode" An: unicode@unicode.org Betreff: Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right? On 12/17/2019 2:41 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Uni

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/19/19, James Kass via Unicode wrote: > > There's a bug report for the LibreOffice application here... > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41652 > ...which shows an interesting history of the situation. LOL two years ago almost to the date Shriramana Sharma seems to have

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 2019-12-21 2:43 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: Ohkay and that's very nice meaningful feedback from actual developer+user interaction. So the way I look at this going forward is that we have four options: 1) With the existing single NBSP character, provide a software option to

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/21/19, Richard Wordingham via Unicode wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 17:25:17 +0530 > Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: > >> I don't expect NBSP to ever disappear, because spaces disappear only >> at linebreaks, and NBSP simply doesn't stand at linebreaks. > > I can certainly imagine

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/21/19, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > 1) > > With the existing single NBSP character, provide a software option to > either make it flexible or inflexible, but this preference should be > stored as part of the document and not the application settings, else > shared documents would not preserve

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/21/19, Murray Sargent wrote: > I checked with the Word team and they actually tried out stretching NBSP > back in 2015 in the "good client" mode. But customer feedback was negative. > The problem is that NBSP is used sometimes when stretching isn't wanted such > as between the end of a

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 17:25:17 +0530 Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: > So I never asked for NBSP to disappear. I said I want it to *stretch*. > And to my mind "stretch" means to become wider than one's normal > width. It doesn't include decreasing or disappearing width. Don't spaces

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

From our colleague’s web site, http://jkorpela.fi/chars/spaces.html “On web browsers, no-break spaces tended to be non-adjustable, but modern browsers generally stretch them on justification.” Jukka Korpela then offers pointers about avoiding unwanted stretching. and “The change in the

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 2019-12-17 12:50 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: I would have gone and filed this as a LibreOffice bug since that's the software I use most, but when I found this is a cross-software problem, I thought it would be best to have this discussed and documented here (and in a future

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

U+0020 SPACE U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE These two characters are equal in every way except that one of them offers an opportunity for a line break and the other does not. If the above statement is true, then any conformant application must treat/process/display both characters identically.

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/17/2019 5:49 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: Asmus Freytag wrote, > And any recommendation that is not compatible with what the overwhelming > majority of software has been doing should be ignored (or only

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

Asmus Freytag wrote, > And any recommendation that is not compatible with what the overwhelming > majority of software has been doing should be ignored (or only enabled on > explicit user input). > > Otherwise, you'll just advocating for a massively breaking change. It seems like the

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/17/2019 11:31 AM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: So it follows that any justification operation should treat NO-BREAK SPACE and SPACE identically. And any recommendation that is not compatible with what the overwhelming majority of software

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 06:20:39 +0530 Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: > Hello. I've just tested LibreOffice, Google Docs and MS Office on > Linux, Android and Windows, and it seems that NBSP doesn't get > stretched like the normal space character when justified alignment > requires it. > >

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 2019-12-17 10:37 AM, QSJN 4 UKR via Unicode wrote: Agree. By the way, it is common practice to use multiple nbsp in a row to create a larger span. In my opinion, it is wrong to replace fixed width spaces with non-breaking spaces. Quote from Microsoft Typography Character design standards:

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On 12/17/2019 2:41 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: On Tue 17 Dec, 2019, 16:09 QSJN 4 UKR via Unicode, wrote: Agree. By the way,

Re: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

On Tue 17 Dec, 2019, 16:09 QSJN 4 UKR via Unicode, wrote: > Agree. > By the way, it is common practice to use multiple nbsp in a row to > create a larger span. In my opinion, it is wrong to replace fixed > width spaces with non-breaking spaces. > Quote from Microsoft Typography Character design

Fwd: NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

Agree. By the way, it is common practice to use multiple nbsp in a row to create a larger span. In my opinion, it is wrong to replace fixed width spaces with non-breaking spaces. Quote from Microsoft Typography Character design standards: «The no-break space is not the same character as the figure

NBSP supposed to stretch, right?

Hello. I've just tested LibreOffice, Google Docs and MS Office on Linux, Android and Windows, and it seems that NBSP doesn't get stretched like the normal space character when justified alignment requires it. Let me explain. I'm creating a document with the following text typeset in 12 pt Lohit