Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-09-09 05:38, Mark Wieder wrote: 4. My pull request was passive-aggressively not accepted because "there's no way to review the changes". I think you should perhaps look at the title of your post for an example of passive-aggressiveness, rather than Ali's perfectly measured and

Accessing the Foundation library with LiveCode Builder

2015-09-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi all, Just taking a quick break from my holiday to let you know that I wrote another LiveCode Builder-centric blog post. This one's about using LCB "foreign" handlers to access functions in LiveCode's libfoundation library.

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-09-08 21:53, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=8404b344b09103bf489dd8a9a=cbaad904da=30cf6c38b4 Thanks. The form won't accept input in Chrome, and since I didn't receive an invitation to participate in the survey I'll wait until it's ready and I

Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

2015-09-09 Thread Ali Lloyd
I'm sorry you felt it was passive-aggressively not accepted. It was meant neither as passive-agressively , nor not accepted. Indeed I have used almost the exact same wording in the past: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/pull/9 In that case it was a one-line bugfix in a stack that was the

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Graham Samuel
Well said Mark! Graham > On 9 Sep 2015, at 10:30, Mark Waddingham wrote: > >> I do think, even if only as a sop to those of us (like myself) who get >> fed up how RunRev, for all their ballyhoo about China and so forth, >> do seem to give the impression that they don't

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham
I do think, even if only as a sop to those of us (like myself) who get fed up how RunRev, for all their ballyhoo about China and so forth, do seem to give the impression that they don't really seem to think outside a North Atlantic box, the survey would have looked a bit more friendly if it had

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Richmond
On 09/09/2015 12:14 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: On 9 Sep 2015, at 6:03 am, Richmond wrote: If Edinburgh every other year constitutes "somewhere in Europe" I suppose you are right. However, at the risk of being accused or being a bit arch about Geography, there are

Re: externals on Windows

2015-09-09 Thread Thierry Douez
> I know nothing about writing externals for Livecode on Windows. > Are there any tutorials available? http://newsletters.livecode.com/november/issue13/newsletter5.php http://newsletters.livecode.com/november/issue14/newsletter3.php

Re: LiveCode fix for \\UNC paths coming...

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-09-03 14:28, Roger Eller wrote: That's great news! Thank you. After a bit of to-ing and fro-ing (the Win32 path behavior is quite subtle...) we've got a patch ready for this. It's currently scheduled for 6.7.8-rc-1: https://github.com/runrev/livecode/pull/2832 Warmest Regards,

Re: BBEdit/Textwrangler LCM for livescript

2015-09-09 Thread Thierry Douez
Hi, Replace the key 'Function Pattern' with the one below and you might have a surprise with code folding.. Function Pattern Tested successfully but very quickly with TextWrangler 4.5.12 ( the latest) I have another option, but let comments arise before going further..

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham
The survey asked if one were likely to attend; but as the choice of where one could attend was restricted the results would be like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Err - no - we had a shortlist of areas in which we know we could afford to run a conference based on the data that we have (i.e. get

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Richmond
On 09/09/2015 11:30 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: I do think, even if only as a sop to those of us (like myself) who get fed up how RunRev, for all their ballyhoo about China and so forth, do seem to give the impression that they don't really seem to think outside a North Atlantic box, the survey

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Ali Lloyd
> Indeed, we could have given a list of an arbitrary number of places - > Munich, Shanghai, Outer Hebrides, *Tristan da Cunha*, Nuaha... LiveCode Conference to be held in Edinburgh*! *of the seven seas On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:41 AM Mark Waddingham wrote: > > The

curling twilio API

2015-09-09 Thread Jose Damaso
Hi all - can someone help me convert the following? curl -X POST 'https://api*twilio*com/2010-04-01/Accounts/AC0afb9e5c70c0fde47904a9a6ff/Messages.json' \ --data-urlencode 'To=5034554562' \ --data-urlencode 'From=+1212022183' \ --data-urlencode 'Body=test message' \ -u

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Jim sims
A conference requires a lot of work, planning, and inevitably tons of problem solving. Trust me. Flights are one expense but lodging can be far far greater. Negotiating with a hotel is usually a good idea. European Perspective - it would currently cost me £50 to take Ryanair from Malta to

Re: curling twilio API

2015-09-09 Thread David Williams
Hi Jose, Off the top of my head, this would probably look something like the following in LC: post tPostString to url("https://AC0afb9e5c70c0fde47904a9a6ff:e6a1bdc2a7a7484d6cdc96e@api*twilio*com/2010-04-01/Accounts/AC0afb9e5c70c0fde47904a9a6ff/Messages.json;) Where tPostString contains

Re: Silly conference survey

2015-09-09 Thread Richmond
On 09/09/2015 01:41 PM, Mark Waddingham wrote: The survey asked if one were likely to attend; but as the choice of where one could attend was restricted the results would be like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Err - no - we had a shortlist of areas in which we know we could afford to run a

Re: BBEdit/Textwrangler LCM for livescript

2015-09-09 Thread James Hale
Thierry wrote: > > Replace the key 'Function Pattern' with the one below > and you might have a surprise with code folding.. Well I did and it works in BBEdit. Not sure what the surprise is though, unless you have something in mind with the two unused named patterns. I also used it in a

FacebookLib and Facebook App

2015-09-09 Thread Dan Friedman
Greetings! Has anyone successfully created a Facebook App that will run with Andre's FacebookLib? I can't seem to get the Facebook App configured correctly. I get errors and unsuccessful results. I had a few eMails with Andre, and he suspects that the Facebook App is setup incorrectly.

LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Folks Some of you may know that all the references to RunRev and Runtime revolution are being cleaned out and the github account has changed from runrev to livecode. This means all our clones are broken so to save everyone some time I made a stack that will fix it for you. Here it is:

Re: iOS9, AppleTV OS, WatchOS 2

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Kerner
Will non-apple apps be able to do the multi-tasking/split screen? That would be nice... On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Stephen MacLean > wrote: > > > I mention this most every time

Re: iOS9, AppleTV OS, WatchOS 2

2015-09-09 Thread Stephen MacLean
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Stephen MacLean > wrote: > >> I mention this most every time after an Apple event, but it’s becoming >> more and more relevant each time… LiveCode

Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/09/2015 01:10 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: I think you should perhaps look at the title of your post for an example of passive-aggressiveness, rather than Ali's perfectly measured and appropriate response to your pull request :) In regards to binary stackfile contributions - I'm sorry

Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/09/2015 12:06 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: I'm sorry you felt it was passive-aggressively not accepted. It was meant neither as passive-agressively , nor not accepted. Well, that was intended to be a flippant remark, the the posting subject should have reinforced that. Seems like I struck a

Re: LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/09/2015 05:20 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Folks Some of you may know that all the references to RunRev and Runtime revolution are being cleaned out and the github account has changed from runrev to livecode. This means all our clones are broken so to save everyone some time I made a

Re: LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 11:07 am, Mark Wieder wrote: > > It appears to be written as a script-only stack for LC8. Since I ran this in > LC6.7.5, I just copied the script minus the first line into the card script. > That almost ran properly, only causing a harmless error

Re: iOS9, AppleTV OS, WatchOS 2

2015-09-09 Thread Roger Eller
Multitasking is already present, and split screen layout is in dev preview 3. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/09/2015 06:25 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Script only stacks work in 6. Not sure which version they were introduced but but in 6.7.7 there’s a bucket load of script only stacks in the IDE for libraries. Huh. So they are. At least as far back as 6.7.5 anyway. Somehow I missed that fact.

Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

2015-09-09 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 11:23 am, Mark Wieder wrote: > > As an aside, I believe Monte's lcvcs system involves a binary diff mechanism > for comparing two stacks. No there’s no binary diff in lcvcs although it wouldn’t be hard to build something that created a repo,

Re: LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > The issue with submodules is just a workflow thing. You’ve got to > remember to commit changes to the submodule before you commit to > the main repo because the commit on the main repo contains a > reference to the commit on the submodule. In general submodules > that you

site scraper

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Kerner
anyone write a site scraper? Feel like sharing it so I don't have to write it? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is

Re: LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > I also saw the email notice on the fact that we can expect a lot more > submodules in the future to deal with widgets. Not something I'm > looking forward to. What are your concerns? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop,

Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

2015-09-09 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 11:36 am, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >> As an aside, I believe Monte's lcvcs system involves a binary diff mechanism >> for comparing two stacks. > > No there’s no binary diff in lcvcs although it wouldn’t be hard to build > something that

Embeded LiveCode -- a distant dream that is dead???

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi All, With v8 and beyond, is there any Embeded LiveCode in the future or is that vision terminated? Wondering. -- Ta. Mark Rauterkus m...@rauterkus.com PPS Summer Dreamers' Swim & Water Polo Camp Executive Coach Varsity Boys Swim Coach, Pittsburgh Obama Academy Recent Head Water Polo

Re: Accessing the Foundation library with LiveCode Builder

2015-09-09 Thread JB
This is excellent! Thank you and please let us know when you post more examples. John Balgenorth On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi all, > > Just taking a quick break from my holiday to let you know that I wrote > another LiveCode

Re: LiveCode repo name change fixer

2015-09-09 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 1:06 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > I also saw the email notice on the fact that we can expect a lot more > > submodules in the future to deal with widgets. Not something I'm > > looking forward to. > > What are your concerns? The issue with

Re: Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham
This sounds like there's a legacy flag on those older stacks but I'm not sure what it might be. If you file a bug report and attach one of the stacks or send one to Hanson we'll take a look. Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Sep 2015, at 19:11, Paul Dupuis wrote: > >

Re: Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Paul Dupuis
Scott, See the dictionary entry for "rectangle". There is a specific note that, as of LC6, the effective rect of a stack includes its decorations and window borders and is also settable. IMHO it was one of the best new features of LC6+. What I did nto realize, but discovered this week was that

Re: Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks Paul, good to know. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 9/9/15, 11:43 AM, "Paul Dupuis" wrote: >Scott, > >See the dictionary entry for "rectangle". There is a specific note that, >as of LC6, the effective rect of a stack

Re: Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 9/9/2015 2:32 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Paul Dupuis wrote: > > However, I have run into a puzzler. Under Windows 8 (and Win 7) when I > > set the effective rect of a stack to 0,0,x,y or set the effective > > topLeft of a stack to 0,0, that stack is NOT taking into account the > > wider window

Re: Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Dupuis wrote: > However, I have run into a puzzler. Under Windows 8 (and Win 7) when I > set the effective rect of a stack to 0,0,x,y or set the effective > topLeft of a stack to 0,0, that stack is NOT taking into account the > wider window borders of Windows 7 and 8 and is positioning the

Re: iOS9, AppleTV OS, WatchOS 2

2015-09-09 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Stephen MacLean wrote: > I mention this most every time after an Apple event, but it’s becoming > more and more relevant each time… LiveCode support? > > How ready is LC for iOS9? It’s coming in a week. iOS 8 broke a lot of my > stuff,

Re: BBEdit/Textwrangler LCM for livescript

2015-09-09 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Thierry, I did as you suggested but not seeing any difference with code folding, still just commands and functions are foldable. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:04 AM James Hale wrote: > Thierry wrote: > > > > Replace the key 'Function Pattern' with the one below > > and you

Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Paul Dupuis
I have an application (main stack + many substacks + several external stacks) that is ancient (originally built in HyperCard, ported to Supercard, ported to Metacard, and on up to LiveCode 6.7.6. I was working on redoing some of the legacy screen layout code today - taking advantage of 'the

Re: Window decorations and the effective rect issue

2015-09-09 Thread Scott Rossi
Dumb comment/question on my part: I always thought the effective keyword was for reading only -- didn't think it was settable. From the docs: The effective keyword is implemented internally as a property and appears in the propertyNames. However, it cannot be used as a prop in an expression, nor

iOS9, AppleTV OS, WatchOS 2

2015-09-09 Thread Stephen MacLean
I mention this most every time after an Apple event, but it’s becoming more and more relevant each time… LiveCode support? How ready is LC for iOS9? It’s coming in a week. iOS 8 broke a lot of my stuff, would have been nice to be able to test ahead of time. AppleTV OS. New, based on iOS. Will