Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 2.03.2016 02:54, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond RM wrote [SNIP] In 1993 I ended up in a married student "cave" at Southern Illinois University with an LC 475 on the desk in front of me and a screaming 7 month year old next to me (my wife had a Fulbright scholarship); Hypercard

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread RM
Well, Bob, I wouldn't want to spoil my reputation, would I? Although tinned duck sounds as though it might stick between the teeth somewhat. I do hope that all the wobbly bits in DP15 get ironed out for RC1, even at the expense of having to wait until New Year, which would be far better than

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 02/03/2016 00:08, J. Landman Gay wrote: In the Project Browser, the dotted selections are the objects selected on the card. You can't alter dotted-line selections from within the PB, you need to open the property inspector for that. You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 23:29, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Ever since the option was added to take a screen shot directly from an > object's rendered buffer I've been using that, since I get high-quality > results and can also work with objects not currently on screen. >

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 23:11, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > I find I get the best results from export snapshot by using the following > form: > > export snapshot from rect (the rect of tObjectLongID) of tObjectLongID ... > > So you might try > > export snapshot from rect (the

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 23:58, Robert Mann wrote: == And lastly, the kafkaesque position vis a vis the use of both tools for the same code. In practice, can I code part of an application in the community and part of it in the closed IDE. If not, please do precise if there are markers somewhere that are

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 5:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Two hypotheticals: > > 1. I create a viewer app to display my original artwork as part of my > job-seeking resume. The viewer seems useful so I decide to distribute it to > others so they can make their own

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 11:41 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: On 2 Mar 2016, at 4:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Does that sound right to all you guys who read up on this stuff? I believe any media or other content (whether separate files or not) distributed with the application

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 8:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/01/2016 04:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/1/2016 5:23 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Don't use the Project Browser so can't comment on the second issue It's confusing, Ali had to explain it to me. I still mostly use the App Browser because I need

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 4:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Does that sound right to all you guys who read up on this stuff? I believe any media or other content (whether separate files or not) distributed with the application and/or required to make it function fully

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 9:53 PM, Robert Mann wrote: If livecode's wants that all stacks and content made with the Community version be fully GPL3 compatible, all media used in a stack must be under a CC BY-SA 4.0 type license, which is directly compatible with GPLv3. I have been trying to follow this

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
RE : issue of including copyrighted media into a stack. << The creators of the works retain copyright even as they offer specific rights with regard to distribution to others. No distribution license is a transfer of copyright. Not in film, not in software. >> So.. did my homework again,

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 1:41 PM, Robert Mann wrote: > > So basically, all clients of any indie developer have to buy/get their own > license for their product. No as far as I’m aware clients only need to get their own license if they are also a developer. If the clients aren’t

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
OUps!! that IS DAMN CLEAR! By Jove!! So ok.. fine.. as one could rephrase the situation : 2) if you do not make it public, than when you're ready, you're free to a) buy a closed commercial license and THEN b) turn for help to an indie/pro developer to finish it up and prepare it for iOS

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Jim Lambert
> MonteG wrote: > Well.. it depends on what he’s apologising for ;-) LOL! JimL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 1:57 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: > >> Whether I buy flowers for my wife because I think she's pretty or because >> I'm >> trying to apologize, either way the florist makes $60. > > Either way Tiffany is one lucky gal! Well.. it depends on what he’s

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Jim Lambert
> RichardG wrote: > > Whether I buy flowers for my wife because I think she's pretty or because I'm > trying to apologize, either way the florist makes $60. Either way Tiffany is one lucky gal! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Mann wrote: > RE : issue : does livecode consider that all illustrative material > & text etc in a stack to their view fall under GPL I had thought Mark Waddingham had addressed that. When media is related to the functionality, such as an icon, that would seem reasonable to expect

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 1:10 PM, Robert Mann wrote: > > 2) if you do not make it public, than when you're ready, you're free to turn > for help to an indie/pro developer to finish it up and prepare it for iOS > launch under whatever license suites you. I refer you to clauses 5 b, d,

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 12:58 PM, Robert Mann wrote: > > So all coding would be available to all of course. But these copyrighted > elements will not be GPL compatible because as simple as it is french law > does not allow an author to push away his copyrights. Perhaps you are

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Ok, fine.. that is.. somehow more "logical" !! So that leads to 2 practical consequences : 1) what seems to be important is the timing of making publicly available some code : -- if you "release" some code under GPL for testing out an app -- and than later on turn to the closed IDE to produce a

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/01/2016 04:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/1/2016 5:23 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Don't use the Project Browser so can't comment on the second issue It's confusing, Ali had to explain it to me. I still mostly use the App Browser because I need the column layout. In the Project Browser,

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
RE : issue : does livecode consider that all illustrative material & text etc in a stack to their view fall under GPL << I suppose if your goal was to write LiveCode scripts and publish them as a printed volume for your coffee table that might make a very good analogy. >> No, in my case I've

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Man wrote: > == And lastly, the kafkaesque position vis a vis the use of both > tools for the same code. In practice, can I code part of an > application in the community and part of it in the closed IDE. The GPL is a distribution license; it doesn't affect anything you do in your home

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matt Maier wrote: > Unless Livecode modified the GPL it's still a Free software license, > written and interpreted by the FSF. Calling it Open Source is more > colloquial, and clearly doesn't cause problems in the vast majority of > cases. But, in this case, the inaccuracy is causing the

Re: LC8 DP15 error message?

2016-03-01 Thread Paul Hibbert
I’ve just reported a similar problem. Bug# 17048 [ http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17048 ] Please feel free to add your comments. Paul > On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:07 PM, William Prothero wrote: > > Folks: > I’m getting a long list of lines in the message box

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-03-01 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richmond RM wrote > [SNIP] > In 1993 I ended up in a married student "cave" at Southern Illinois > University with an LC 475 on the desk in front of me and a screaming 7 > month year old next to me (my wife had a Fulbright scholarship); > Hypercard probably prevented me from battering the

LC8 DP15 error message?

2016-03-01 Thread William Prothero
Folks: I’m getting a long list of lines in the message box when I run my app. I’m creating text boxes in code. Among a lot of the lines, there is: ERROR: Error when sending message ideNewControl: Would this be an IDE bug, or mine? My app works as expected, so ?? Bill Is this something I should

Cleaning out the profile menu in Standalone settings

2016-03-01 Thread John Dixon
In the standalone settings... Under the 'Basic Application Settings' there is the 'Profile' popUpMenu I have noticed that there are profiles in there that are way out of date Anyone know how I can clean up this menu and just show what is current ?

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Matt Maier
Unless Livecode modified the GPL it's still a Free software license, written and interpreted by the FSF. Calling it Open Source is more colloquial, and clearly doesn't cause problems in the vast majority of cases. But, in this case, the inaccuracy is causing the confusion. It's worth noting that

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Mann wrote: > Coming back to Livecode OS I'm really surprised that nobody seem to have > considered stacks as being not only programs but multimedia interactive > media, and the related legal stuff like copyright of these sources. > > That is the basic in any book publishing see : >

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
Mark Waddingham covered this in his post: Whilst the GPL can be used to cover content there are more (GPL compatible) suitable ones. The main problem with applying the GPL to content is deciding what constitutes the 'source code'. Indeed, I believe there is an FAQ on the FSF site about such

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matt Maier wrote: > Robert, as you conduct your research you should also learn about the > difference between Free Software and Open Source Software. In brief, > Free Software does special things for moral reasons; it is "right" > that software be liberated. Open Source Software does special

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks for your piper mail link. I found your article very informative (and a breeze to read!). I'll retain that what's actually written in the GPL license.. is like toilet paper What counts is the creators position... Fine. And that'll close the subject of the status of the stack files for me

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 5:23 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Don't use the Project Browser so can't comment on the second issue It's confusing, Ali had to explain it to me. I still mostly use the App Browser because I need the column layout. In the Project Browser, the dotted selections are the objects

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Mann wrote: > 1) my personal conclusion reading these is that the assumption you > make about stack files falling under GPL is.. questionable, but.. > arguable, particularly if there are elements of interfaces buttons > so on that would link to the engine. And the more intricated these >

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
But.. but.. ??? << With respect to your Question 2, the Indy license doesn't have to specifically forbid a service where someone with a freer license compiles code on your behalf. You can't build an actual Livecode application without using the IDE, so if you used the Community IDE your

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread William Prothero
Tnx Peter: It’s indeed a feature! Thanks. Best, Bill > On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > > > On 01/03/2016 22:28, William Prothero wrote: > >> The first thing I’ve noticed is that selecting objects in the Project >> Browser and stack window is

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
I don't think that's true. The Wordpress plugin author doesn't use Wordpress to actually type out the code yet it is still covered by the GPL. Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Mar 2016, at 10:26 AM, Matt Maier wrote: > > So, I supposed in theory (disclaimer: IANAL) > if you

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
Robert did you read the quote I sent yesterday from the horses mouth? I very much doubt it would be profitable for anyone to take a different position than LiveCode Ltd on whether a stackFile is considered a plugin and therefore covered by the GPL. I have to say that I myself was unsure of this

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks Richard.. that one a good example of.. "leonine" clause as we say in France... as we say :: El diabolo hides in small details. Coming back to Livecode OS I'm really surprised that nobody seem to have considered stacks as being not only programs but multimedia interactive media, and the

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ali Lloyd wrote: > I find I get the best results from export snapshot by using the > following form: > > export snapshot from rect (the rect of tObjectLongID) of tObjectLongID ... > > So you might try > > export snapshot from rect (the rect of widget "Chart") of widget "Chart" of > this card

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Matt Maier
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Robert Mann wrote: > indeed.. I do have an android phone!! > > And I read the GNU license for good, > and the FAQ's for good, > and some discussions > > 1) my personal conclusion reading these is that the assumption you make > about stack files

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Haworth
I've also noticed the first issue you mentioned. In my case, it's not so much that clicking an object doesn't select but trying to grab the handles to resize an object has to be very accurate or the object is deselected. I guess I should enter a QCC report. Don't use the Project Browser so

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
You'd just eat whatever was in it and then complain you still didn't have a tin. Bob S On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:57 , RM > wrote: In our current development process, "Release Candidate" builds are exactly what they say on the tin,

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
indeed.. I do have an android phone!! And I read the GNU license for good, and the FAQ's for good, and some discussions 1) my personal conclusion reading these is that the assumption you make about stack files falling under GPL is.. questionable, but.. arguable, particularly if there are

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Matt Maier
Robert, as you conduct your research you should also learn about the difference between Free Software and Open Source Software. In brief, Free Software does special things for moral reasons; it is "right" that software be liberated. Open Source Software does special things for pragmatic reasons;

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Ali Lloyd
I find I get the best results from export snapshot by using the following form: export snapshot from rect (the rect of tObjectLongID) of tObjectLongID ... So you might try export snapshot from rect (the rect of widget "Chart") of widget "Chart" of this card to tVar as PNG If that doesn't give

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

2016-03-01 Thread Terry Judd
On 2/03/2016 9:28 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Peter TB Brett" wrote: > > >On 01/03/2016 22:17, Peter TB Brett wrote: >> On 25/02/2016 06:28, Terry Judd wrote: >>> Apologies for hijacking this thread somewhat but

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Mann wrote: > Behing the great idea of a Open SOurce, it is surpassing to find > so much barriers being built around it. As Peter explained, for most use cases it's not all that deep. But for edge cases all licenses can be complex, open source and proprietary alike. The only reason

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 22:28, William Prothero wrote: The first thing I’ve noticed is that selecting objects in the Project Browser and stack window is poor. In 7.1 versions and older, when I clicked on an object on the stack window, it would hilite the corresponding entry on the project browser.

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terence Heaford wrote: On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:57, Terence Heaford wrote: put the rect widget "Chart" into tRect subtract 22 from item 2 of tRect subtract 22 from item 4 of tRect As a Mac only person I really find it weird to keep having to make adjustments for the height of a menu. I

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Oh! I understand now. That might be a bug, depending on how you look at it. Card coordinates don't change when there's a menu scrolled out of view; you'd think that snapshots wouldn't either. On 3/1/2016 4:24 PM, Tore Nilsen wrote: I think Terence has a menuBar of his own making in the stack,

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: > If memory serves, the LC team has (had?) a service that would build > for iOS for you as well as help with all the back-end Apple > certification, etc. Is that still around? I don't believe so. As I wrote in this thread two days ago: > What I questionned is that

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 22:17, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 25/02/2016 06:28, Terry Judd wrote: Apologies for hijacking this thread somewhat but Peter could you possibly comment on the likelihood of clipboard support being added to HTML5 in the near (or middle) future. I understand there are potential

LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread William Prothero
Folks: I’ve “bit the bullet” and started to work on my app with LC8-DP15. I’m on OSX El-Capitan. The first thing I’ve noticed is that selecting objects in the Project Browser and stack window is poor. In 7.1 versions and older, when I clicked on an object on the stack window, it would hilite

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 3:57 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: put the rect widget "Chart" into tRect That may be the problem. put the rect *OF* widget "chart"... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi Robert, The situation is quite simple: 1) The Open Source edition of LiveCode is licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 3. This says that if you distribute works derived from the Open Source edition of LiveCode (which we interpret to include stack files), then you must do

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
I think Terence has a menuBar of his own making in the stack, that would count for the extra 22 pixels on the card being pushed upward on the mac version, but still a part of the card height. Tore > 1. mar. 2016 kl. 23.22 skrev J. Landman Gay : > > On 3/1/2016 3:57

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 3:57 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:32, J. Landman Gay wrote: "To export a snapshot for a portion of a stack you use the form: export snapshot from rect[angle] of window windowID to ... Where windowId is the windowId property of the

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 25/02/2016 06:28, Terry Judd wrote: Apologies for hijacking this thread somewhat but Peter could you possibly comment on the likelihood of clipboard support being added to HTML5 in the near (or middle) future. I understand there are potential security concerns around use of the clipboard but

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
The price rise in the commercial license has led me to try understand the Opens SOurce License, although I had always in my mind to keep with a commercial license ideally. And that leads to big surprises. I'll be doing a little bit of homework on that. *Question 1 :: is there somewhere a kind

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 25/02/2016 19:23, Matt Maier wrote: That was too abstract and hypothetical for me to be sure I followed correctly. In the approach the Livecode team is taking now, is it accurate to say that the html5 standalone bundles up the livecode engine with any app-specific objects/scripts and pushes

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:57, Terence Heaford wrote: > > put the rect widget "Chart" into tRect > > subtract 22 from item 2 of tRect > > subtract 22 from item 4 of tRect As a Mac only person I really find it weird to keep having to make adjustments for the height of a

Re: LC8 Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:31, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On 01/03/2016 21:15, Terence Heaford wrote: >> Is it the intention to add printing functionality to this widget? > > Yes, but the core dev team probably won't have time to work on it before the > LiveCode 8.0

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:32, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > "To export a snapshot for a portion of a stack you use the form: > export snapshot from rect[angle] of window windowID to ... > Where windowId is the windowId property of the required stack." This does not work

Re: LCB: Complex statement help needed in LCB

2016-03-01 Thread Stephen MacLean
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > >> I'll give it a go. While I could just wrap the whole thing up and >> execute it as a script, I’m really trying to do as much as possible >> in LCB to learn. > > Yes. I quite like programming in LCB because

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 1:41 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: I have been unable to get the Browser widget to print as I suspect there is no option for this so I thought I would try a snapshot using this: export snapshot from rect (the rect of widget "Chart") of this card to tVar as PNG put tVar into image

Re: LC8 Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 21:15, Terence Heaford wrote: Is it the intention to add printing functionality to this widget? Yes, but the core dev team probably won't have time to work on it before the LiveCode 8.0 release. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett

Re: LCB: Complex statement help needed in LCB

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 21:14, Stephen MacLean wrote: Thanks:) Being strongly typed has it’s plusses and minuses. I was hoping to avoid “parsed as number” by using the “any” type. It looks like that when you have a variable in LCB with a type of “any” and perform an action on it, it becomes that type.

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Another option similar to Randy's is to create an image tile -- for example, a 48x48 white PNG that's 50% opaque -- and assign this as the backPattern of the button. Using this method you can scale the button to any size and the translucency will fill accordingly. You can also assign a separate

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 1:25 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: We looking at very simple button design: 1) Border color is on/white/2px 2) background is set to clear (no color assignment and no icon) 3) background opacity set to 50% # if we can figure out how 4) Button name/label white ...

LC8 Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
Is it the intention to add printing functionality to this widget? Thanks Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: LCB: Complex statement help needed in LCB

2016-03-01 Thread Stephen MacLean
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On 01/03/2016 20:44, Stephen MacLean wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I’m looking for some help on complex statements in LCB. >> >> I’m trying to take a script statement like this: >> >> if (char x of tCardNum)*2 > 9

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 2:09 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: On 1 Mar 2016, at 5:05 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Why not publish your Apps for iOS using a Publisher Partner? Maybe an iOS Publisher Partner selected among our very own LiveCode fellow developers. We discussed this

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 20:33, Tore Nilsen wrote: > > It may not be the most elegant solution, but this works for me: > > on mouseUp > > put the rect widget "Chart" into tRect > > add left of this stack to item 1 of tRect > > add left of this stack to item 3 of tRect > >

Re: LCB: Complex statement help needed in LCB

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 20:44, Stephen MacLean wrote: Hi All, I’m looking for some help on complex statements in LCB. I’m trying to take a script statement like this: if (char x of tCardNum)*2 > 9 then Hi Stephen, Don't forget that LCB is strongly typed. That means that a string isn't a number, so

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 2 Mar 2016, at 7:38 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > That "someone" would be violating the terms and conditions of their Indy (or > Business) license. > > If they were *lucky*, they would promptly find that they didn't have their > license any more. > > Needless

LCB: Complex statement help needed in LCB

2016-03-01 Thread Stephen MacLean
Hi All, I’m looking for some help on complex statements in LCB. I’m trying to take a script statement like this: if (char x of tCardNum)*2 > 9 then into the equivalent statement in LCB. While it will compile fine, calling the function that contains the code above with give the dreaded error

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Roger Guay
This doesn’t capture my part in this conversation. Personally, I am unconcerned about protecting my code/projects and I’m very happy to publish using the GPL license. But . . . BIG BUT . . . Apple won’t accept GPL, and I cannot afford the ever increasing price of the commercial license as a

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 20:18, RM wrote: If by a "Publisher Partner" you mean getting someone who owns a licence to the Commercial version of Livecode to build you stacks from your standalones, that (while possibly not being illegal) seems sneaky and under-hand. I suppose someone will try this trick

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread Paul Hibbert
By adjusting some colour values and the ink mode I could achieve what I think you are looking for, however I may have misunderstood, because I don’t quite understand the bit about having 50% opacity of a clear background! Link to demo stack with my interpretation:

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
It may not be the most elegant solution, but this works for me: on mouseUp put the rect widget "Chart" into tRect add left of this stack to item 1 of tRect add left of this stack to item 3 of tRect add top of this stack to item 2 of tRect add top of this stack to item 4 of tRect export

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread Randy Hengst
It sounds to me that you want the color of the button to be 50% … meaning that the card (or whatever) below it will show though. And, you want the border and name of button to be opaque… if all that is correct, you might want to give this a try. create an image in the color you want the button

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 22:09, Monte Goulding wrote: On 1 Mar 2016, at 5:05 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Why not publish your Apps for iOS using a Publisher Partner? Maybe an iOS Publisher Partner selected among our very own LiveCode fellow developers. We discussed this during

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 5:05 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > > Why not publish your Apps for iOS > using a Publisher Partner? > > Maybe an iOS Publisher Partner > selected among our very own > LiveCode fellow developers. We discussed this during the original Kickstarter

Re: Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
You must take the distance from the left egde of the screen and from the top of the screen into consideration when you try to export a snapshot of a browser instance. The browsers position is measured from the topLeft of the screen, not the card I think. Tore > 1. mar. 2016 kl. 20.41 skrev

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 12:50 PM, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-03-01 19:45, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:44, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-03-01 19:20, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:15, stephen barncard wrote: you guys are too intellectual for me...{ducking} So, if you aren't going to let me have a tin,

Export & LC8 & Browser widget

2016-03-01 Thread Terence Heaford
I have been unable to get the Browser widget to print as I suspect there is no option for this so I thought I would try a snapshot using this: export snapshot from rect (the rect of widget "Chart") of this card to tVar as PNG put tVar into image "myImage" Unfortunately it does not capture

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread RM
Here's a demo of what I just wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/63u8h6sb0gk2yjo/Button%20Games.livecode.zip?dl=0 Richmond. On 1.03.2016 21:25, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: We looking at very simple button design: 1) Border color is on/white/2px 2) background is set to clear (no color

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 21:30, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 21:25, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: We looking at very simple button design: 1) Border color is on/white/2px 2) background is set to clear (no color assignment and no icon) 3) background opacity set to 50% # if we can figure out how 4)

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 21:25, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: We looking at very simple button design: 1) Border color is on/white/2px 2) background is set to clear (no color assignment and no icon) 3) background opacity set to 50% # if we can figure out how 4) Button name/label white Now...

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
We looking at very simple button design: 1) Border color is on/white/2px 2) background is set to clear (no color assignment and no icon) 3) background opacity set to 50% # if we can figure out how 4) Button name/label white Now... I realize that if # 2 above is true, then possibly, since

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 21:11, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: I may have asked this before, but am I the only one who wishes we could set the opacity of the background of a button to discrete levels without having to change the blend level of the whole button? Yes, I realize that we can create a

Set the Opacity of a Button Background

2016-03-01 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
I may have asked this before, but am I the only one who wishes we could set the opacity of the background of a button to discrete levels without having to change the blend level of the whole button? Yes, I realize that we can create a graphic object behind the button and set that, then make

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 20:45, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:44, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-03-01 19:20, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:15, stephen barncard wrote: you guys are too intellectual for me...{ducking} So, if you aren't going to let me have a tin, where's the duck? You'll be asking for a

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 20:44, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-03-01 19:20, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:15, stephen barncard wrote: you guys are too intellectual for me...{ducking} So, if you aren't going to let me have a tin, where's the duck? You'll be asking for a duck in a tin next! ;) Mark.

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-01 19:45, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:44, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-03-01 19:20, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:15, stephen barncard wrote: you guys are too intellectual for me...{ducking} So, if you aren't going to let me have a tin, where's the duck? You'll be asking for a duck

Re: beggars be choosers

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-01 19:20, RM wrote: On 1.03.2016 20:15, stephen barncard wrote: you guys are too intellectual for me...{ducking} So, if you aren't going to let me have a tin, where's the duck? You'll be asking for a duck in a tin next! ;) Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~

Re: Licensing questions again

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 18:20, RM wrote: "The b word" . . . I don't think that was the problem . . . Mind you . . . over in "Previously Great Britain" they are now so mealy-mouthed about these sorts of phrases (the 'f' word, the 'b' word, the 'c' word, the 'all the rest of the alphabet' word) owing to

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