Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I just ran another set of tests with a much smaller image. Text: 5.85s / 0.032s / 8.183708MB Image: 0.211s / 0.034s / 9.29539MB One other thing to try tomorrow is to use an individual text field on each card instead of a shared group. I tried to download the update, but still got the original

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I just pushed an update to my demo that adds a button to advance to the next card to make it a little more obvious.  The second card has some shapes to see how they distort and a few text sizes.  The third card is a demo of the TreeView Widget.  I may tweak that a bit though to demonstrate

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-10 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I have an interest in this topic, and even some ideas, but I’ve been swamped with other demands and not able to read every post. Is there a short way to say where you are at with the discussion, or a test script that will show a problem? ___

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-10 Thread Neville Smythe via use-livecode
> On 11 Apr 2020, at 2:00 am, Brian Milby wrote > > I just imported a 500kb image to the card, removed the text from the field, > created 300 cards. > 0.756 seconds normal (171MB). 1.124 from a variable. (image instead of > text) > 8.311 seconds normal (8.2MB). 0.047 from a variable. (original

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I've resented that before. Apple adds a popular feature to iOS based on the download count of apps in its store, and then removes the original author's app and won't reinstate it. Google does the same thing but at least leaves the original app available. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: Building a Board Game

2020-04-10 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Thank you, Quentin. I’ll give it a try. Roger > On Apr 10, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Quentin Long via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 7.04.20 22:24, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I know there must be a simple way to do this but it is escaping me at the >> moment. How can I move

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
You are right. We must remain diligent. > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 4/10/20 3:58 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: > >> Here are some additional details. Seems like a good thing they are doing. > > It *is* a good thing, no doubt about

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Okay, went back to the PC side and was able to successfully connect to a local SQL server. When I put in the address and db info for the AWS web server, I am getting this when connecting: "Invalid String or Buffer Length. I will deal with the Mac side later... just need to get the PC side up and

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/10/20 3:58 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: Here are some additional details. Seems like a good thing they are doing. It *is* a good thing, no doubt about it. But the opportunities for misuse are rife. TSA: "You can't fly unless you have a RealID and a green indicator on the

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/10/20 3:51 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote: Don't know what "list like that" you are referring to. Currently, Android (and maybe iOS, too, I don't know) requires Location as a prerequisite to using Bluetooth. My impression is that with the new API, this is not required.

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread dsc--- via use-livecode
Short rant; skip if busy. What really gets me is that Carmela Troncoso, with help from an asteroid belt of others, has worked hard on DP-3T, and Apple/Google adopts it with some changes and then is all Apple/Google! Apple/Google! in the news. I know that a big name can save lives. And I expect

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
Alright, Richard! But, uh, before you hit the streets, put on your mask and download a contact tracing app from a competent freedom-loving source. > On Apr 10, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Mark Wieder wrote: > > Of course, a "standard" app will soon become

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
The illustrations from Google in that article are goofed up. I don't know whether Google did it or TechCrunch. The gray background confuses things. The "few days later" goes left to right not top to bottom. The order should be... Alice and Bob meet... Their phones exchange... A few

Re: Building a Board Game

2020-04-10 Thread Quentin Long via use-livecode
On 7.04.20 22:24, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: > Hi all, > > I know there must be a simple way to do this but it is escaping me at the > moment. How can I move an object (grab me on mouseDown) and have it snap to a > grid (square on a board game) on mouseUp? There are any number of ways to

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:07 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 4/10/20 11:56 AM, Mike Doub via use-livecode wrote: > > Apple and Google adding contact tracking to their OSs > > > > >

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > Of course, a "standard" app will soon become compulsory for tracking > and permission to be out on the street, as it did in China. > > https://twitter.com/ashk4n?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1248659874679902210 If compulsory, the first thing I'll do

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
Don't know what "list like that" you are referring to. Currently, Android (and maybe iOS, too, I don't know) requires Location as a prerequisite to using Bluetooth. My impression is that with the new API, this is not required. So, the list for any app is smaller. I believe currently COVID

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/10/20 11:56 AM, Mike Doub via use-livecode wrote: Apple and Google adding contact tracking to their OSs https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus.html#link-418ae121 From my limited understanding of this, Apple and Google are creating an API which will be

Can't change or see Standalone Settings [was: Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance]

2020-04-10 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Just to add to the mystery, I just imported a stack from Brian Milby, who has been very helpful with other problems of mine. I had a look at the Standalone Settings for his stack, and I can't alter the mobile ones (the desktop ones are not checked in his case), and in particular I can’t open

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I hadn't thought about it that way. That's easier to remember. On 4/10/20 1:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: showAll is the same as letterBox but the borders are the stack background instead of black. Thanks, Brian On Apr 10, 2020, 2:15 PM -0400, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode ,

Re: Video format for mobile

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I haven't actually tried either of those because 1) I can't expect users to fiddle with hardware acceleration, and 2) there aren't any security issues, since (as I just noticed) the player control in the IDE will play the video. I thought it didn't work before because the size of the video is

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
That description doesn’t seem correct. It partly depends on the aspect ratio of the card. With showAll you know that all of the card area will be visible. With noBorder you know that there will not be any black borders to the left and right, or top and bottom of the card area. So, with showAll

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
It's similar to noBorder, but noBorder scales to the short side of the screenrect and showAll scales to the long side (regardless of orientation.) I think. I get those two mixed up. On 4/10/20 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Good catch. It would be great if the Lessons were in

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/10/20 12:42 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: Thanks Jacque, but that’s the trouble - I can’t turn them off. I thought of trashing the LC Preferences to see if that does anything, but I couldn’t find them: I think they are in the plist, which is in the Preferences in the system

Re: Video format for mobile

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
@Mark is there a bug number for this? I couldn't find anything. On 4/9/20 3:36 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: This sounds like a bug we are currently fixing (hopefully in time for 9.6-DP-4) - the android player doesn’t currently play nicely with accelerated rendering... Turning

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Brian this is terrific! Looking at it now. thanks so much Graham > On 10 Apr 2020, at 15:18, Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > Take a look at my mobileDemo repo: > https://github.com/bwmilby/mobileDemo > > It lets you play around with showing how a stack developed at different >

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread dsc--- via use-livecode
This is good news. I am very proud of folks at the COVID Watch team that have been pushing and collaborating for a a better mobile APIs that don't hide BLE capabilities. And a shout-out to the individuals and groups who developed DP-3T, which seems to be the basis for the Apple/Google APIs.

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread Mike Doub via use-livecode
Apple and Google adding contact tracking to their OSs https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus.html#link-418ae121 On Apr 10, 2020, 2:41 PM -0400, dsc--- via use-livecode , wrote: > And for those of you who want to volunteer for the COVID Watch team, here is >

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread dsc--- via use-livecode
And for those of you who want to volunteer for the COVID Watch team, here is the volunteer form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdD1TGKOvd4gtikW_jXdU1HlF4jMP2XnXvIzL2sd6HLHPJ25g/viewform

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
showAll is the same as letterBox but the borders are the stack background instead of black. Thanks, Brian On Apr 10, 2020, 2:15 PM -0400, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode , wrote: > Good catch. It would be great if the Lessons were in Github so they > could be enhanced by the community. I guess

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Good catch. It would be great if the Lessons were in Github so they could be enhanced by the community. I guess for now a comment there is the only mechanism for filing enhancement requests. How does showAll differ from the options shown there? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems J.

RE: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I have connected to SQLserver and MySQL remote servers. Did you try to use MS Access via the ODBC connector as a test? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: Skip Kimpel [mailto:skiplon...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 1:46 PM

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I hadn't seen that lesson before. They didn't include showAll though. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 10, 2020 12:11:40 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Brian Milby wrote: > I also built a stack last

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Interestingly enough, I brought over everything to the Windows side to test there and I STILL cannot connect! This might go back to an AWS question OR remote SQL question. Ralph, do you normally connect to SQL via your local machine/local network or do connect to remote SQL servers. Going back

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-10 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks Jacque, but that’s the trouble - I can’t turn them off. I thought of trashing the LC Preferences to see if that does anything, but I couldn’t find them: I think they are in the plist, which is in the Preferences in the system library. I tried temporarily switching this off (by renaming

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Graham Samuel wrote: > Thanks Richard, for that typically useful reply! I have indeed written > many a resize handler, but getting back into this stuff I was struck > by how messy it can get. Right now I don’t even know if say a field > with 12 point type in it has to be changed to a smaller or

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Good to know. SKIP On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 1:30 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > You can have multiple versions of Xcode installed. For instance you can > have 10.1 and 11.4 installed. Point LC to 11.1. I have all of my Xcode > versions in a desktop

RE: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
You can have multiple versions of Xcode installed. For instance you can have 10.1 and 11.4 installed. Point LC to 11.1. I have all of my Xcode versions in a desktop folder and have none in applications. You just have to make sure the proper version is active for building. Display current

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > I'm going to be that guy who replies to himself... > > I just imported a 500kb image to the card, removed the text from the > field, created 300 cards. 0.756 seconds normal (171MB). 1.124 from a > variable. (image instead of text) 8.311 seconds normal (8.2MB). 0.047 > from

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > I also built a stack last year to show how much space is not used when > using different modes. I'll see if I can locate that and make it > available. Useful I'm sure, but this lesson about using fullScreenMode as an option for handling different screen sizes includes

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Just a as follow up, I installed that Xcode 11.4, ran the previous script and it looks like it installed properly. HOWEVER, I still cannot connect to my SQL database. Also, by doing that, my Mac mobile development environment disappeared. I have since uninstalled 11.4 and went back to 10.1.

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread dsc--- via use-livecode
And it doesn't have to be just contact tracing related. Jonathan Rothberg's team is working on a simple test at home that needs an app. co...@4catalyzer.com Anybody want to talk about a containment game? Or take the concept and go in one's own direction? Nicky

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The three desktop platforms are on by default. You should be able to turn those off. They are incompatible with mobile so they all need to be off before you can select either of the mobile ones. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I'm going to be that guy who replies to himself... I just imported a 500kb image to the card, removed the text from the field, created 300 cards. 0.756 seconds normal (171MB). 1.124 from a variable. (image instead of text) 8.311 seconds normal (8.2MB). 0.047 from a variable. (original text)

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread dsc--- via use-livecode
It is good to see some leadership here. Thanks, David. Jeff Schwaber on COVID Watch leadership team welcomes LiveCode programmers. His initial interest is in making the Bluetooth and TCN libraries available within the LiveCode environment. He suggests joining a couple channels at COVID Watch

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
I do appreciate your help, Ralph. You and I are in the same boat in regards to their comfort level having primarily worked in a Windows environment in the past. SKIP On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > From what I can see you

RE: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
From what I can see you will either need to install Xcode 11.4 or use a previous version of the ODBC SW. But I’m starting to get out of my comfort zone now. I do some Mac dev but I’m mainly a Windows developer. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Unfortunately, I don't think it is that straight forward. I went down this path already. The files that you can download are Windows MSI installation files. You can run it manually by using the following commands: /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL

RE: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=56567 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 From: Skip Kimpel [mailto:skiplon...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:19 AM To: How

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
I am so used to running in the Windows world that I don't think I have a SQL ODBC driver installed on my MAC. I googled it a little bit and did not find too much help. Anybody have suggestions on this piece? SKIP On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:44 AM Skip Kimpel wrote: > Nope... am able to connect

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
That's a good question. It has been over a year since I looked at that code, but I can't think of anything in the serialization piece that would be an issue. That code is all common (writing to a file buffer). I did not look at the actual platform file code though - could be something there.

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-10 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks for the quick reply. I have the green square! I remember when it turned from red to green. But sadly my standalone settings window remains stubbornly inactive - not frozen: something happens when I click on General, Stacks, Copy files etc, but the next five icons to the right which let

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Nope... am able to connect via other programs. SKIP On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Firewall port? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Take a look at my mobileDemo repo: https://github.com/bwmilby/mobileDemo It lets you play around with showing how a stack developed at different sizes looks when presented on a device using the different FullScreenModes. I have not updated it for the new iPhoneX aspect ratios, but probably

RE: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Firewall port? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Skip Kimpel via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 10:10 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Skip Kimpel Subject:

Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

2020-04-10 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
I forgot to mention that I am on a Mac... also very new to me. This might also have something to do with how the SQL connection script is written. SKIP On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:09 PM Skip Kimpel wrote: > Any trick to connecting to an AWS Sql instance? I am using some of my old > scripts

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks Jacque - sounds very practical. fullScreenMode, here I come! Cheers Graham > On 9 Apr 2020, at 20:09, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 4/9/20 11:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> Graham Samuel wrote: >> > Folks, yet again I don’t know where to look for an

Re: Mobile screen sizes - another naive question

2020-04-10 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks Richard, for that typically useful reply! I have indeed written many a resize handler, but getting back into this stuff I was struck by how messy it can get. Right now I don’t even know if say a field with 12 point type in it has to be changed to a smaller or larger rectangle with

Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-10 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Thanks for all the info Dar - that’s a great start. I think creating a hospital / care-worker privacy respecting contact tracing app would be a great Livecode project. This is what I’m thinking: • Some of gather some material / research - maybe a few Livecode experiments not he topic • We