Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-29 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi Mark Waddingham, This message didn't get through befroe, apparently, due to your servers being down (just another thing to cause us stress...). So here's what I sent Thank you for you very comprehensive response. It does help me understand a great deal more about the innards of the data grid.

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-27 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi Mark, Thank you for you very comprehensive response. It does help me understand a great deal more about the innards of the data grid. However, I have been running my grid in an 800x600 window. I had restarted fresh with a new template stack and new row template. The template has the original B

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-27 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2019-08-23 17:11, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote: Hi all I’ve been testing extensively all day and I’ve determined that acceleratedRendering has no effect on Form View DataGrids at all. Screen recordings and lining them up shows no difference in performance with zero, one , two, three or f

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-24 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Yep. This is my findings too for all platforms and environments. I’m having to make my own grid engine to overcome this for now because I can’t wait for their bug fix cycle or afford their support fees. I’ve got a feeling this won’t get fixed for some time to come yet. Especially judging by thei

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread hlowe via use-livecode
Thanks Sean. As you suggested, using: put the effective layermode of grp "Row Template 0001" of grp "dglist" of grp "DG_Browse" I get "dynamic". The acceleratedRendering of the stack is true. Despite this, the datagrid scrolling is still slow and choppy on an iPad Pro. Henry -- Sent

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Hi all I’ve been testing extensively all day and I’ve determined that acceleratedRendering has no effect on Form View DataGrids at all. Screen recordings and lining them up shows no difference in performance with zero, one , two, three or four fields populated with 200 or 2000 records of data.

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Ok. Good. So, back to my OP: I have acceleratedRendering set to true for the IDE, desktop and HTML5. But a DG2 Form with only 3 short fields, a rounded-rect grc and the background rect and only 233 records still struggle to scroll anywhere near smoothly. Is there something I am missing that can s

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
OK, sounds like the issue is not acceleratedRendering. > On 23 Aug 2019, at 5:03 pm, Pi Digital via use-livecode > wrote: > > My apologies, that was with acceleratedrendering set to false. With it true, > the row templates are dynamic and the main grid is container for both > effective and ac

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
And effective is container for dglist too. Sean > On 23 Aug 2019, at 08:03, Pi Digital via use-livecode > wrote: > > My apologies, that was with acceleratedrendering set to false. With it true, > the row templates are dynamic and the main grid is container for both > effective and actual la

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
My apologies, that was with acceleratedrendering set to false. With it true, the row templates are dynamic and the main grid is container for both effective and actual layerMode. But it has not improved or indeed made any difference to the speed of rendering. Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd On

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-23 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 4:51 pm, Pi Digital via use-livecode > wrote: > > The layermode of my DataGrid is ‘container’ and the effective layermode is > ‘static’. The effective layermode needs to be the same as the layermode for things to work (i.e. needs to be container) so either one of the pr

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
> With acceleratedRendering true for the stack just double-check the effective > layermode of the main datagrid group and any parent groups. The layermode of my DataGrid is ‘container’ and the effective layermode is ‘static’. This would make sense to me as the DataGrid layer itself should not

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 11:48 am, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > >> >> Did you read this bit of my response? ;-) >>> The issue is more likely with the properties of the main datagrid group >> rather than your row template > > > Hmm, so this now confuses me further. Are you saying

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
> > Did you read this bit of my response? ;-) > > The issue is more likely with the properties of the main datagrid group > rather than your row template Hmm, so this now confuses me further. Are you saying that the properties of the main datagrid group also should not have their properties set?

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 11:14 am, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > So, the fact that some of those parameters are set to something but that I > did not do this, does that mean there is something wrong in the engine that > is setting them when it should not? Does that make sense? I've

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Thanks, Monte, for responding. So, the fact that some of those parameters are set to something but that I did not do this, does that mean there is something wrong in the engine that is setting them when it should not? Does that make sense? I've not even attempted changing any parameter on the temp

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> The following must not be set on the group for it to work as a container or > scrolling layermode: > > - opaque > - showBorder > - showname > - hScrollbar > - vScrollbar > - dropShadow > - innerShadow > - outerGlow > - innerGlow > - colorOverlay > > Yes these should be listed in the docs f

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 12:27 am, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Monte, > > Many thanks for your response. I don't know how I had inferred that I was > using mobile as this is ONLY for PC Desktop and HTML5 emscripten running in > Chrome on a PC Desktop (which will be the final i

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread JJS via use-livecode
(i saw you also talked about iOs, so there was some confusion) From this bug https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22231 i know that for from it has to be container mode. For table it has to be dynamic. That's on mobile and runs smooth on Android. Indeed no fancy glow or anything. Bu

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Ah yes, that's well hidden. Thanks for that, Jaqueline. I would assume, based on Marks old post, that anything that needs to be rendered on the container itself (not it's contents) would be classified an adornment. As you can see from my parameters though, the template does not have any borders o

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/22/19 10:58 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: This is about the ONLY description I can find for this ANYWHERE on the web! The dictionary has a partial (or full?) explanation in the layerMode entry: no borders, no scrollbars. But that's all it says. I assume graphic effects ar

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Monte, Here's a list of the properties of the Row Template 0001 from my grid. Bear in mind I have not manually adjusted anything other that the rect of the group. rect 24,151,755,180 toolTip hScroll 0 vScroll 0 boundingRect bottomColor hScrollbar false visible true sharedBehavior false topColor t

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Thanks Bob, You don't need to invoke DG2. All old DGs are 'converted' (for want of a better word) to v2. The engine handles this. Faster DataGrid Performance: As stated, that was a quote from the original kickstarter (or whatever) campaign just as background to show that it was intended to improv

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think it was this part: Faster DataGrid Performance The number one feature we get asked for is to improve performance of complex DataGrids on mobile. We will improve performance in two ways. First, we will rework the DataGrid code to be more efficient in the way that it creates, removes and cac

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-22 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi Monte, Many thanks for your response. I don't know how I had inferred that I was using mobile as this is ONLY for PC Desktop and HTML5 emscripten running in Chrome on a PC Desktop (which will be the final intended platform). I'm confused about what I said that caused Herman and yourself to assu

Datagrid2

2018-01-11 Thread Terence Heaford via use-livecode
Submitted again due to incorrect address Apologies for previous post I was just trying out LC9 DP11 and noted in the LC Blog that Datagrid2 is available for testing. I am a little confused because on opening DP11 I could only find the previous Datagrid. Is DG2 a widget

Re: Datagrid2

2018-01-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-01-11 17:13, Terence Heaford via use-livecode wrote: I was just trying out LC9 DP11 and noted in the LC Blog that Datagrid2 is available for testing. I am a little confused because on opening DP11 I could only find the previous Datagrid. Is DG2 a widget or rolled into the old Datagrid

Datagrid2

2018-01-11 Thread Terence Heaford via use-livecode
I was just trying out LC9 DP11 and noted in the LC Blog that Datagrid2 is available for testing. I am a little confused because on opening DP11 I could only find the previous Datagrid. Is DG2 a widget or rolled into the old Datagrid format? Is DG2 available in the community edition? Could

Re: DataGrid2 - Improved Graphics Means What - Exactly?

2017-06-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
OK I'm all in .. will make a contribution. but so I can set all wonderment aside: Since learning about completely encapsulated responsive custom controls (aka "group") which contain not a single line of code I've started creating these "all over the place. I'm not clear on what "adornments"

Re: DataGrid2 - Improved Graphics Means What - Exactly?

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-23 07:23, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: What is the scope of the improved graphics rendering? Is It DataGrid only? No - the proposed engine addition (container layer mode) is not DataGrid only - it is a general feature usable by any custom control which wants t

DataGrid2 - Improved Graphics Means What - Exactly?

2017-06-22 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
The DataGrid 2 fund raiser is interesting, not so much for the DataGrid; which I don't use; (Instantiating a small group template multiple times to make a longer grouped control is easy enough and scrolling list fields do the rest, so far there hasn't been a use case yet where Datagrid complexi