How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Richmond
Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back containing community versions of LiveCode? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Sep 2015, at 10:03, Richmond wrote: > Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back > containing > community versions of LiveCode? Yes, that is allowed. As the Community engine is GPL’ed, you’d have to include an offer to supply the

Re: HTML5 test

2015-09-02 Thread Warren Samples
On 09/01/2015 11:36 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: On Ubuntu Linux, works fine Firefox Chrome and Opera shows this message: Exception thrown, see JavaScript console It works here in Opera 31.0 and Chrome 44.0 (also works in Chromium) in openSUSE 13.2, 64-bit. I wonder what accounts for the

AW: AW: Installer maker window keeps blank on OS X

2015-09-02 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Not yet, but I will do. Because since years using the same installer this is the only customer, where this happens. So I first tried to find a reason on that specific Mac. Thank you -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > On 09/02/2015 12:26 PM, Kaveh Bazargan wrote: >> >> On 2 September 2015 at 14:36, Fraser Gordon wrote: >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2015, at 10:03, Richmond wrote: Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back containing community versions of LiveCode? >>>

Re: functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > I suspect this is a lingering definition which was somewhere in the > message path in the IDE. > > When the engine looks for what handler to call it checks each stage in the > message path in order for the pair (handler

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: On 09/02/2015 05:43 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: You don't think you're being a bit over dramatic? Who? Me? lol. Seriously, though... here's a case in point. When I first released PowerDebug it was wide open as far a catching any problems. Soon users started reporting that they

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Richmond wrote: > > >>> On 2 Sep 2015, at 10:03, Richmond wrote: > Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its > back containing community versions of LiveCode? > > ... >

[OT] Textmate help

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Liking Textmate for script editing but have a couple of things I'd like to fix. Textmate doesn't automatically add end statements for commands such as if, repeat, try, etc. There is no indentation after a case statement. I'm not seeing any autocompletion happening. I'm sure there are ways to

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > > Yes, that's exactly what I've come to do, but as per other posts, the > overall impression newcomers to LC will get with such idosyncracies of the > Script Editor/Debugger is not a good one. > I stand by my

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 09/02/2015 05:43 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > > You don't think you're being a bit over dramatic? >>> >> > Who? Me? lol. > > Oh, good. I wasn't too sure, you always strike me as a very knowledgeable and extremely

Re: functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Dr. Hawkins writes: > Having solved it for my own, I'm not going to worry about this any further > if it can't bite people now . . . My guess, without having looked at your stack, is that there is a previously compiled script that uses the command syntax. If you haven't recompiled

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin writes: Good points, and I've rather given up trying to convince developers to let the IDE help them avoid errors. But there are those of us who think that it might be a good idea to get system stack errors fixed rather than sweeping them under the rug. -- Mark

Re: [OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-09-02 Thread Roger Eller
The file extension I am using is .lc so I tried .irev and neither would colorize. That's why I tried wrapping the code in , which is fine with me. I was previously using Notepad to edit .lc files. On Sep 2, 2015 8:07 PM, "Kay C Lan" wrote: > Gentlemen, > > sorry for

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Roger Eller
Sure Ali, have a look at bug #15814. I even did the leg work to find out at which version it broke. http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15814 On Sep 2, 2015 5:45 PM, "Ali Lloyd" wrote: > Hi Roger, > We'd be keen to receive bug reports on the key features you rely

Re: [OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-09-02 Thread Kay C Lan
Gentlemen, sorry for the slow reply but my employer had the audacity to expect me to work for my pay ;-) Unfortunately that typically involves long periods of no or restricted internet. Anyway, thank you for your time to look into this. My set up is: Atom: 1.0.9 Language-Livecode: 0.5.1

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 12:38 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Assuming the errors you are referring to are of the "undeclared variable" type, I have a utility that inserts local statements for any undeclared variables. Maybe I should offer it to the team. A number of reasons why this isn't a good idea. But

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 07:10 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Mark, You sent me that a few months ago when I was writing my script and I incorporated it. You don't really expect me to remember things, do you? Not sure what other things might make it a bad idea, The tl;dr is that by letting an algorithm

[OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-09-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Tue Sep 1 2015 Kay C Lan wrote: > I always thought that BareBones was a bit of a tongue in cheek > understatement for such a full featured Text Editor but when > I compare the 22MB BBedit to Atom's 208MB maybe > the BareBones is justified :-) Really!...I mean: REALLY!!! A 208 MB Text

Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Ralph DiMola
Feeling pretty clueless here but... I need ("5" = "005") to be false. This is for password validation. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
How about comparing as an array? >From the LC Dictionary definition for “is": When comparing arrays, the = operator first checks if the number of elements in each array is the same, if not the two arrays are different. If the arrays have the same number of elements, they are equal if each

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Could to a slightly more complex check.. First check if the length is the same, then do the comparison. (could even check length, then do a char by char comparison) On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > Can you add a non-numeric character in front of

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Ralph DiMola
Thanks all. The length test or putting an alpha char before both seems like the easiest.  I was hoping there was another more elegant way. This makes me rethink my LC habits in a big way. I was hoping that there was a way to coerce "005" into a string of 3 chars. Thanks again! ! Ralph DiMola

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 07:40 PM, Terry Judd wrote: Can you add a non-numeric character in front of each before you do the comparison? +like. I usually add an 'x' prefix. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 07:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Today I finally saw my first instance of a pirate red dot breakpoint that didn't meet my previous criteria. I am initiated. This was in LC 7.0.6 which I have just started using more regularly. Prior to 7.x I had never seen it happen except when a

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Ralph DiMola wrote: Feeling pretty clueless here but... I need ("5" = "005") to be false. This is for password validation. I could swear this used to work using some tricky combination of < and >. Anyway, the trick is to make them compare as strings. Forcing quotation marks seems to work:

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Colin Holgate
Is there ever a case where this would return true?: put "005" into a put "5" into b answer a = b and length(a) = length(b) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Terry Judd
Can you add a non-numeric character in front of each before you do the comparison? Terry... On 3/09/2015 12:33 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola" wrote: >Feeling pretty clueless here but... > >I need ("5" =

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread dunbarx
Hi. Not sure what test values fit your needs, but does this help? function noZeros arg1.arg2 if the length of arg1 <> the length of arg2 and arg1 = arg2 then return "false" else return "true" end noZero This sidesteps several issues, but may not address, as I mentioned above, all your

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-09-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/2/2015 7:10 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I stand by my suggestion to predesignate them as "PCD", for "Pirate Code Dots", as they aren't binding, but merely advisory . . . Reminds me of an Italian who told me that over there, traffic lights are mere suggestions. Today I finally saw my first

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-09-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/2/2015 10:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: The breakpoints are stored in one of two places: as a custom property of the preferences file if you're dealing with a global variable, or as a custom property of the owning stack if it's a local variable. The breakpoint is stored as objectID,

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 08:30 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Interesting, thanks for that. So if I hit one of these phantom orphaned dots it seems logical that clearing all breakpoints (from the Debug menu) would reset everything and put me back in business. I'll try it next time. Actually, ignore all that.

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread dunbarx
Hi. Not sure what test values fit your needs, but does this help? function noZeros arg1.arg2 if the length of arg1 <> the length of arg2 and arg1 = arg2 then return "false" else return "true" end noZero This sidesteps several issues, but may not address, as I mentioned above, all your

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 09:49 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: I would have thought 5=005 would evaluate as true and "5"="005" would evaluate as false. In any other language that would work. Unfortunately in LC everything's stringish. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/2/2015 11:49 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: I would have thought 5=005 would evaluate as true and "5"="005" would evaluate as false. LC will read "5" as a number because it will interpret what is inside the quotes rather than see the whole thing as a string. You have to add the quotes to the

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Scott Rossi
wholeMatches? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design > On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > > Feeling pretty clueless here but... > > I need ("5" = "005") to be false. This is for password validation. > > Ralph DiMola > IT

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread Ralph DiMola
I would have thought 5=005 would evaluate as true and "5"="005" would evaluate as false.  Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Office: 518-636-3998 ex:11 Cell: 518-636-3998 Original message From: "J. Landman Gay"

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Haworth
The spell check algorithm catches that. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015, 7:38 PM Mark Wieder wrote: > On 09/02/2015 07:10 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > You sent me that a few months ago when I was writing my script and I > > incorporated it. > > You don't really expect

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Mark, You sent me that a few months ago when I was writing my script and I incorporated it. Not sure what other things might make it a bad idea, but I do incorporate an algorithm that attempts to find variable names that might be misspellings with various choices on what to do with them. It's

Re: Compare numeric strings with leading zeros

2015-09-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/2/2015 11:16 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: I was hoping that there was a way to coerce "005" into a string of 3 chars. Adding specific quotes around it does that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Assuming the errors you are referring to are of the "undeclared variable" type, I have a utility that inserts local statements for any undeclared variables. Maybe I should offer it to the team. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:26 AM Mark Wieder wrote: > Richard Gaskin

SQL SELECT Statement problem

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Having an issue with the following statement in SQLite. SELECT col1,col2 FROM TableA WHERE colid IN (:1) This is executed with put revQueryDatabase(gdbid,tsql,"tArray") into tCursor If tArray[1] contains a single integer, the SELECT works, if tArray[1] contains a comma separated list of

Re: More TopStack-DefaultStack Mysterious - TraveralOn (false) Selection lost?

2015-09-02 Thread Peter M. Brigham
Keep in mind that the default behavior when a stack receives focus of selecting in the first field with traversalon = true can be overridden if you put all fields with traversalon = true into a group with traversalon = false. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Ali Lloyd
Hi Roger, We'd be keen to receive bug reports on the key features you rely on that are breaking down, if you're willing to elucidate, or if you have already done so, what bugs other than the aforementioned speed issue are affecting you. On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 18:07, Roger Eller

HTML5 is Here and More!

2015-09-02 Thread Jana Doughty
Hi LiveCode Community, I'm sure you've heard the good news, but in case you missed it: HTML5 is officially here! You can read about it and download it here: https://livecode.com/how-to-run-app-in-browser/ You can also stay up to speed on the new Business Application Framework:

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Thierry Douez
>> Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back >> containing >> community versions of LiveCode? > > Yes, that is allowed. As the Community engine is GPL’ed, you’d have to > include an offer to supply the source code for the engine, but you can do > this by having the

Re: HTML5 test

2015-09-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Sep 2015, at 07:18, Warren Samples wrote: > On 09/01/2015 11:36 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: >> On Ubuntu Linux, works fine Firefox >> >> Chrome and Opera shows this message: >> Exception thrown, see JavaScript console > > > It works here in Opera 31.0 and Chrome

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Richmond
On 09/02/2015 12:26 PM, Kaveh Bazargan wrote: On 2 September 2015 at 14:36, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 2 Sep 2015, at 10:03, Richmond wrote: Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back containing community

Re: LCB API's

2015-09-02 Thread BNig
Peter W A Wood wrote > Thanks Klaus. Co-incidentally, Bernd also pointed this out to me. It seems > the LiveCode community in Germany may be small but you’re all very smart > (and helpful). > > Peter Hi Peter, Klaus is the smart German, I learned this from Klaus and also mentioned that in the

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
On 2 September 2015 at 14:36, Fraser Gordon wrote: > > On 2 Sep 2015, at 10:03, Richmond wrote: > > > Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back > containing > > community versions of LiveCode? > > Yes, that is

Re: LCB API's

2015-09-02 Thread Peter W A Wood
> On 2 Sep 2015, at 00:15, Klaus major-k wrote: > > Hi Peter, > >> Am 01.09.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Peter W A Wood : >> >> Peter >> >>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 23:40, Peter TB Brett wrote: >>> If you go into the dictionary in the

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > 'Strict Compilation" doesn't do what you think it does > What you really want to do is > set explicitVars true > > Thanks Mark for the explanation. That is very interesting. I've 'Starred' you response because I'm

Re: HTML5 test

2015-09-02 Thread Warren Samples
On 09/02/2015 04:31 AM, Fraser Gordon wrote: Opera works - it isn’t one that we’d particularly tried to support at this stage. Keep in mind that Opera now uses the Chrome/Blink rendering and javascript engines, as apparently does Vivaldi. Warren

Re: functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > When you say 'when executed in the IDE' in what context do you mean? A > script? The message box? > I mean that when my stack and library stack run in the IDE, it doesn't choke on that line, but calls the function from

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/02/2015 05:43 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: You don't think you're being a bit over dramatic? Who? Me? lol. Seriously, though... here's a case in point. When I first released PowerDebug it was wide open as far a catching any problems. Soon users started reporting that they were seeing weird

Re: functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
Therefore, if you are seeing this in the IDE then it is likely via something IDE specific you are using *or* you have lingering definitions in a library stack or similar somewhere which you are loading into the IDE I'll create another test, then. It may have run the code in an older

Re: cut doesn't throw error when failing in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
cut doesn't throw error when failing in standalone Dr. Hawkins dochawk at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 16:15:54 CEST 2015 Previous message: functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone Next message: cut doesn't throw error when failing in standalone Messages sorted by: [ date ] [

functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
After a couple of days of frustration, compiling standalone to get test messages, I discovered: function someFunct a, b then a script that has someFunct cat, dog will execute someFunct in the IDE. In a standalone, it fails to find the handler. In my case, someFunct was originally a

cut doesn't throw error when failing in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
While I"m at my oddball reporting: When attempting to cut in a standalone within a password protected stack, it fails without throwing an error. I finally found the issue by looking at "the result". Is this already reported? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: cut doesn't throw error when failing in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-09-02 16:15, Dr. Hawkins wrote: While I"m at my oddball reporting: When attempting to cut in a standalone within a password protected stack, it fails without throwing an error. I finally found the issue by looking at "the result". Is this already reported? This is not strictly a

Re: functions may be called as commands in IDE, but not in standalone

2015-09-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-09-02 16:13, Dr. Hawkins wrote: After a couple of days of frustration, compiling standalone to get test messages, I discovered: function someFunct a, b then a script that has someFunct cat, dog will execute someFunct in the IDE. In a standalone, it fails to find the handler.