Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On September 12, 2016 9:57:40 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: But both the Project Browser and RevApplicationbrowser do not reflect the change. Once in a while they do… but 80% of the time, change of layers are not reflected/updated. Is there a way force refresh

Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > also… if we change the layer of a group from the property inspector, eg. the > card has 32 layers of objects and you want to move a group on layer 19 to the > top. > > You can set the layer of group 19

Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
also… if we change the layer of a group from the property inspector, eg. the card has 32 layers of objects and you want to move a group on layer 19 to the top. You can set the layer of group 19 to 35 (in the property inspector) and it actually moves to the top (you can see it on the card) and

Re: Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
I think you should be able to both relayer within the group and drag an object out of a group into its parent group or card so it sounds like there’s an issue there. > On 13 Sep 2016, at 12:08 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > the Project Browser is much improved

Project Browser Allows you to move a group into another group

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
the Project Browser is much improved an very stable now… Thanks for whoever did the hard work there. Today, with relayerGroupedControls set to default/false.. I inadvertently dragged a group into another group in the Project Browser. Now any attempt to change the layer of the group B that

Re: Maintain Order in JSON Import

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
OK… so long as we are using bracket form… someArray [ ] then we will get numeric, sortable keys… so than just go ahead and use standard JSON notation inside the array.. got it. tks On 9/12/16, 11:31 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding"

Re: Android device not recognized

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 6:38 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: So I tried on a Samsung S4. On that device, the "installing" dialog appears and nothing else happens. I waited two or three minutes, then had to force-quit LC because there is no way to cancel the dialog. And on restarting, it did install. No idea what

Re: Android device not recognized

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 5:17 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote: If the device name is shown but it is dimmed, could it be the case that you have not selected to build for Android? Yes, sorry, that was it. We're sharing the stack back and forth and I should have realized the setting had been changed. But now

Re: Why Chained Behaviors May Be A Bad Idea

2016-09-12 Thread mwieder
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote > but the example was > > Parent X (a behavior for) > Child Y and Child X, > where Child X was also a behavior for > Child A Hopefully that's a typo and not a circular reference. So A | BC | D Is perfectly reasonable. B

Re: Android device not recognized

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 8:17 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > > If the device name is shown but it is dimmed, could it be the case that you > have not selected to build for Android? The other option would be if the mode of your stack is not 1 or it’s not the topStack. Cheers

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I've been seeing it too, though not much more often than in LC 7. I still > haven't figured out what triggers it and I never use an external editor. I usually see it when I've opened scripts in an editor, and

Re: Android device not recognized

2016-09-12 Thread panagiotis merakos
If the device name is shown but it is dimmed, could it be the case that you have not selected to build for Android? On 12 Sep 2016 22:15, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > Was there a change in RC2 in recognizing Android test devices? I've tried > three different ones and LC

Is Beginners' Guide up to date?

2016-09-12 Thread William Prothero
Folks: The beginners’ guide, which is access through LC 8.01 (rc2) seems to be out of date. I was sending a link to a guy I’m trying to get interested and I see, on the first page, stuff like: Under iOS: LiveCode recommends the following set up: Platform Xcode SDK Simulators Included Snow

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Thanks > On 13 Sep 2016, at 7:40 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > On 9/12/16 4:17 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: >> Everything needs a report so it can be tracked for testing. > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18375 > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay |

RE: OSX/Xcode/LC Version Compatibility Panic

2016-09-12 Thread Ralph DiMola
Panos, Thanks for the info. I kept meaning to thank you and just got diverted. I was just looking for a complete list. I'll dig into the release notes next time. Thanks to you and JLG for your fast answers! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 1:11 AM, Matthias Rebbe > wrote: > > Is this a known behaviour or should i file a bug? I’m not aware of it as a known issue Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 4:17 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Everything needs a report so it can be tracked for testing. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18375 -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Callbacks in Windows in LC8

2016-09-12 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
I’m happy to report that callbacks seem to be working with DirectShow in Windows in LC 8.1 RC2. Basic: Callbacks are a property of a player. They are basically are a list of numbers, each line followed by a message name. The number corresponds to a time in a movie/audio file loaded into a

Re: Maintain Order in JSON Import

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 7:23 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > this seems "hacky" but can now order the keys because they default to numeric > index It is not hacky. It is the way you represent sequences in JSON. The hacky part is the pipe delimiter. Try:

Maintain Order in JSON Import

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
If you import JSON like this: { "colormeds": { "progress": { "level": "1", "cycle": "1" }, "colorwheel": { "Red": "255,0,0",

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Everything needs a report so it can be tracked for testing. Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Sep 2016, at 7:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > I didn't open a report, I thought the behavior was either intentional or > unavoidable. If you're submitting a fix anyway, probably

Android device not recognized

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Was there a change in RC2 in recognizing Android test devices? I've tried three different ones and LC won't allow any of them. Terminal ("adb devices") sees them, and they are in the LC Test Target menu, but the device name is dimmed and can't be selected. I've relaunched LC several times,

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 3:43 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: I was pretty certain we had identified and sorted that out but I can see we haven’t. Have you opened a report? It’s a fairly easy fix which I’ll submit today for 8.1.1 RC 1. I didn't open a report, I thought the behavior was either intentional or

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 6:29 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> Actually this should be resolved in RC 2. I presume you are still seeing it >> there? > > Yup. Sorry Jacque I was pretty certain we had identified and sorted that out but I can see we haven’t. Have you

Re: Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread Ben Rubinstein
http://www.easyrgb.com/index.php?X=MATH=02#text2 followed by http://www.easyrgb.com/index.php?X=MATH=16#text16 ? On 12/09/2016 20:49, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: @ Scott: changing constants to constant color1 = "255,0,0" -- red - primary constant color2 = "255,64,0" -- red-orange -

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 3:20 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Actually this should be resolved in RC 2. I presume you are still seeing it there? Yup. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Actually this should be resolved in RC 2. I presume you are still seeing it there? Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Or I could just live with it. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Saving script-only stacks

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
I'm undecided about how to classify this behavior. I have LC prefs set to always save stacks in their original stackfile format. That mostly works transparently except in the case of script-only stacks. LC stores the original stackfile version as a custom property in the stack, and since

Re: Why Chained Behaviors May Be A Bad Idea

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Mark Weider wrote: That is indeed classical inheritance. Multiple inheritance is properly not allowed in LiveCode and would look like this Behavior_button A Behavior Button B Behavior Button C # has both button A and button B assigned as behaviors

Re: Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
@ Scott: changing constants to constant color1 = "255,0,0" -- red - primary constant color2 = "255,64,0" -- red-orange - tertiary constant color3 = "255,127,0" -- orange - secondary constant color4 = "255,191,0" -- orange-yellow - tertiary constant color5 = "255,255,0" -- yellow - primary

Re: Why Chained Behaviors May Be A Bad Idea

2016-09-12 Thread mwieder
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote > Theoretically I could have (I will declare these as objects, but of course > now we can also use livecodescript text only stacks) > > Behavior_button A > > Behavior Buttons B and C > # both have behavior A assigned > > Button D ># with button C

Re: Bug or Feature - Tranparent Buttons Non-Responsive

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 1:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm seeing similar things, and wondering if a few crashes and lockups I've had are related. There seems to be a problem with window identification in general but I can't pin it down. I'm wondering if it's related to script-only stacks. If anyone has

Re: Bug or Feature - Tranparent Buttons Non-Responsive

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/16 10:29 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: OK, this seems to be another case of the mysterious LC 8.* IDE issues. e.g. after rebooting and making a big button with opaque false and small label.. it works… a few moments ago I could not invoke the property inspector for any object. I

Re: Standard Icons for buttons in version 8.1 Standalones

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/11/16 11:47 PM, Roger Guay wrote: How does one include the required icons in standalones using v8? Where is this “icon library” you speak of? I misspoke, I meant the Image Library which is no longer available in the menus. We can still import images manually as before. -- Jacqueline

Re: Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Thanks Scott.. this gets me very close and I can see the pattern. I can tweak this to get to the "official" formal color wheel which has the three primaries, three secondaries and six tertiaries in proper order see: e.g.

Re: Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread dunbarx
Hi. Not sure what you are asking, but do you know about the "colorNames" property"? Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami To: How LiveCode Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2016 10:56 am Subject: Algoritm for RGB Values

Re: Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
I posted a stack that creates a color wheel in a graphic using a conical fill gradient. You may want to adjust the colors if you need different values. In your message box: go url "http://tactilemedia.com/download/colorwheel.livecode; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media,

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Tore Nilsen
One instance in which I have seen this message is if I decide to name/rename a stack after I have added script to it. Going to the script editor window after renaming and saving triggers this message. Tore > 12. sep. 2016 kl. 18.58 skrev J. Landman Gay : > > I've

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
I've been seeing it too, though not much more often than in LC 7. I still haven't figured out what triggers it and I never use an external editor. If someone could tell us what the algorithm is for determining the warning I could note what I've done right before it happens the next time I see

Re: Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread Rick Harrison
I think when I looked into this I found there wasn’t any predicable logic to this. You just have to look up the values for the colors you want. I suppose you could create a table for just the colors you need and then make your selection based on your table. I found this on Wikipedia: The

Re: Bug or Feature - Tranparent Buttons Non-Responsive

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
OK, this seems to be another case of the mysterious LC 8.* IDE issues. e.g. after rebooting and making a big button with opaque false and small label.. it works… a few moments ago I could not invoke the property inspector for any object. I had to reboot LC then I copied a button from one

Re: Why Chained Behaviors May Be A Bad Idea

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Mark Wieder" wrote: Well, most of the article rants about multiple inheritance, which is indeed a bad idea. But of course you know that's different from chained behaviors, so no worries there. BR: actually I don't know how that is different, probably I just don't understand it

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi again, i found out, what was causing the problem. I´ve pasted an utf encoded script into the script editor. With that script i can reproduce the behaviour. If i paste the same script iso or mac roman encoded into the script editor the problem is solved. Is this a known behaviour or should

Algoritm for RGB Values for Color Wheel

2016-09-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
before I go after this myself I wonder if anyone has already coded runtime display of the 12 segment color wheel as RGB values red (primary) red-orange (tertiary) orange (secondary etc… through to red-purple (tertiary) BR ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: getProp puzzle

2016-09-12 Thread dfepstein
Thanks to Mike Bonner for his helpful suggestions. Stack A and Stack B are both mainStacks. Further tests seem to confirm this rule:   A setProp or getProp handler in the script of stack A cannot be invoked for a target in Stack B UNLESS we have "started using" stack A (even if Stack A is

Re: Bug or Feature - Tranparent Buttons Non-Responsive

2016-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner
Also, you need to do that with groups, as groups are not clickable areas. Are you sure your button is at the top of the pile and not partially behind something else? On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > The "hack" mentioned by Brahmanatha is a technique

Re: Best way to extend IDE (toolbar)?

2016-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner
Sorry! .livecodescript is the suffix I'm don't know where script-only stacks are documented, other than in conversations, here, but there are plenty of them in the LC bundle. For example, look in Contents->Tools->Toolset->Libraries, or Contents->Tools->Toolset->Palettes->Script

Re: Best way to extend IDE (toolbar)?

2016-09-12 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Hi Mike, thanks for responding. > Funny you should bring this up, as I spent most of yesterday in the script > editor, which is a bunch of script-only stacks (text files with LC script > in them with the ".livecode" suffix). Do you (does anyone) know where script-only stacks are actually

Re: Best way to extend IDE (toolbar)?

2016-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner
Hey, Ben, Funny you should bring this up, as I spent most of yesterday in the script editor, which is a bunch of script-only stacks (text files with LC script in them with the ".livecode" suffix). a) What are you adding, and would this be something that my long-standing goal of hoarde-sourcing the

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Ben Rubinstein
FWIW I've not noticed this at all (LC 8.1.0 rc2 on Mac OS X 10.11.6). I switch apps a lot (but don't do anything editing scripts externally). Ben On 12/09/2016 11:04, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, am i the only one who is noticing the “Scripts externally modified” popup very very often in LC

Best way to extend IDE (toolbar)?

2016-09-12 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Since time immemorial, I've had a plugin which attempts/pretends to add additional buttons to the standard toolbar. Actually what it used to do is locate the last button on the toolbar, tell the toolbar to adjust its width to just beyond this, resize itself to be the same height and fit the

Re: very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
If you have a reliable recipe then please open a report. Thanks Monte Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Sep 2016, at 8:04 PM, Matthias Rebbe > wrote: > > This is driving me crazy. So is anyone else noticing this and i should submit > it as a bug or is there

very often "Scripts externally modified" popup

2016-09-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, am i the only one who is noticing the “Scripts externally modified” popup very very often in LC 8.1RC2 here on Mac OS X 10.11.6? With the script editor opened switching from LC to an other program and back to LC opens the popup. Or within LC switching from the script editor to another

[ANN] This week in LiveCode 50

2016-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi LiveCoders Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #50 here: http://goo.gl/kXAaNW This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and

Re: Bug or Feature - Tranparent Buttons Non-Responsive

2016-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
The "hack" mentioned by Brahmanatha is a technique to make clickable/draggable transparent images, it doesn't have to do with buttons at all: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Grabbing-Image-with-Transpar ent-Mask-td4699808.html#a4699809 I agree with Jacque's findings. AFAIK,